GMC 702 cubic inch V12 ENGINE - bell housing issues
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I have been waiting for this build, Thanks!
me too!! haha
Interested in seeing your ideas you have for the V12. There was a few tried those around here back in the day but they were exchanged for diesel engines because of fuel mileage.
I guess it pays to be a pack rat doesn't it Ken. You always seem to remember you had a part you needed out in the yard someplace> Thanks for the video and sharing.
Had a 63 Plymouth Savoy with a push button Torqueflite. That was a great car.
Actions speak louder than words and you dew a lot of action but it's better with the words. Keep up the good work and good words. Enjoyed it.
thanks brother!
the old car commercials are a nice touch ,you have so many good ideas for your channel .with channels like your s who needs tv.
Waylon all you have to do is go into google history and get the information from the site back a few years. Easy peisey fella. Good day too. VF
thanks... if only I remembered what this video was about; haha
🤔 We don't learn anything from a man who doesn't talk to us !
I think _Myfordboy_ would be the exception.
Well said Farm Boy. I know I could sit and listen to Ken for hours. The only thing better would be to work/help/chew-the-fat with him in person. A very wise man he is. Keep shooting that video for us Ken, we do love your follies and friends. Merry Christmas & Happy New Year. Chuck in NE Kansas
thanks for being such a loyal viewer.. and for the kind words.. might be fiction..but kind none the less! hahaha.. PRECIATCHA!
Did you see that lady driving the Plymouth? She is headed over to pick me up. We're going to go park somewhere quiet so we can listen to some records.
hahahahahaaha!!!!!
you "actually" made me LAUGH OUT LOUD!!!
There are so many configurations of SAE bellhousing sizes and starter fitments and locations it gets confusing , anything that was used as industrial engines back then the companies that sold the equipment wanted people to have to go back to them for the parts . I love seeing these old engines brought back to life .
When i was playing with early Hemis years ago, I tried to find the SAE specs for bell housings because every one kept saying " get such and such SAE bell housing so you can bolt a manual blah blah" Damned hard to find that info without paying a subscription to the SAE for access to their library. .
seems I'm always finding out the hard way how many different configurations there are ..even with the same make and years.. oh well.. we just can't know it all I guess but I'd like to know just a little! haha
thanks for stopping by.. appreciate it!
Waylon, just stumbled on to your channal the other day. I wish I had your knowledge for working on vehicles. Thank You for sharing. Your southern drawl is fine by me.
well... im glad you stumbled onto my channel m'friend.. I dont claim to be a mechanic.. I just happened to grow up dirt poor on a farm back in the 60s and we didnt have money to hire people to repair things so when a tractor or piece of equipment broke down.. we had to LEARN how to fix it.. half of it is attitude..I overhauled a chevy 283 engine when I was 16 because I didn't know that I couldnt do that. haha..I just assumed that I could.. so i DID! haha.. thanks for watching man.. sure appreciate it!
This may have already been suggested, but, that engine, would sure be cool, in the back of an old COE truck!
I can’t imagine that the record player worked out very well.
read what Kevin Hornbuckle had to say about that hahaha
I want to get a V12 from a Jaguar car and put it in a rat rod. My rat rod will be like a model A, dark green with rust in the body. The rust and paint will have a sealant so it wont rust more. lol
They may have them record players but I ain't never seen one...
I'm loving the old commercials. Got anything for a 1953 Buick Riviera?
must be a tad on the chilly side seeing that winter hat you had on; kinda reminded me of that other guy’s channel...Crazy Russian !
We like to watch you doing something and like to listen to you, too. Always entertaining and humorous and that makes us happy!
put yur hose away or it'll be stiff by midnight
i blew it out with the air hose.. my momma didnt raise no fools. well.. maybe my brother haha
Great stuff don’t change a thing.thanks again
The 6066gmcguy site is still up I just double checked as I'm doing a 64 gmc hot rod pick up but I'm storing my 305e for later and still using my muncie sm420 from factory
yeah, the site seems to work for some and not for others. oddly enough, it works on one of my computers and not on two others with the same server, browsers and OS. are you posting video of your build? I'd love to see it!
I had a 67 3/4 ton with the 305 v6. Loved that truck. Looked like a Chevy 409 with those valve covers.
yeah, they always reminded me of a 348/409 too
Is the starter on a diet,,,its loosing weight
Hey Ken about a year ago ( I didn't think it was that long) you were playing alot with the V12 and rumbling about wait til you see what I do with this. I was thinking about a couple ton something getting a large transplant! But it seems to have disappeared and the Hemi engines are there. Do you still have the 702? Maybe I missed a video? I try not to.
no sir! its here and its ready to rumble.. I have swapped out the flywheel and installed the dual clutches, pilot bearing and pressure plate. I want to get started on it but I need to wrap up a couple of things on the Dojellac, and then of couse my A.D.D. kicked in and I got sidetracked with these hemi's! lol
Do the v6 bell housing interchange with the v12? I always thought they did. If not I'm gonna have to find one..
I'm afraid not.. I was SO hoping the bell housing from my 351 would it .. since the heads will interchange.. along with some other thinigs.. but nope! the bell housing on the 351 is the same as a 305 or any of the other 6s so you have a v12? do you have video of it??
Get sum thangs shituated here 👍
look up the url on the way back machine at archive.org, it's still there
wayback told me it was gone.. it is showing for some people and not for others.. depending on the server andl browser I guess.. whats weird is it shows on one of my computers and NOT on two others.. same server and same OS. and same browser.. strange!
Hey Ken, great name by the way, don't ya wish the days were 36 hours long ! 😊
So many good ideas and projects and not enough time with just 24 huh !
Am really looking forward to see what you got in your thinking cap for the big 12, no doubt it'll be a dandy ! 👌
Been going through so many of your videos the last few days and just realized that I better slow down some, don't wanta get caught up too fast !
Thanks for sharing and take care. 👍 👍
haha.. over 2,000 videos.. dont think you'll catch up too soon! thanks for watching
Keep on keepin on Brother
what year is that 702?
For that old GMC Website you can go to www.wayback.com/ and then it will pull the save archives of the page. If there is anything there, be sure to copy paste and save all the information you can get.
here's what wayback had to say about it
"The Wayback Machine has not archived that URL."
Dang.... That sucks.....
Ha ha ha, pumping old iron!!
Nice to have spare parts! Would've been a bad day without that other bell housing! Cleaning parts is probably the worst part of building old iron especially to pressure wash with snow on the ground!
you probably dont have to do that do ya haha
Worse comes to worse you could always put a hand crank start on the front. =)
and get the incredible Hulk to turn it over :)
HAHAHA CAN'T MAN HANDLE IT
Merry Christmas
Cool stuff. Do you have a vehicle for this monster to go in Ken?
People are always commenting about something. Why, one made fun of my hat one time. I still can’t get over it.
hahaha.. yeah,, i member that.. I deleted a couple of nasty ones.. but here's one for ya.
Hal McAdams What does that motor do, besides turning money into noise?
1963impala2dr clearly this is not the channel for you lol
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Speaking of apples didn't you make the one they call Opel. I think it was called. Man it's a good one. 😆 👍 FINS UP 👍 😆
i dont know that one..
U know that I am still hear watching u. 😉
im ecstatic
I have a Motor's manual for heavy trucks and diesel 1962 to 1971. It has the GMC V-12 in it.
Is there a spec you need to know?
i have a manual too.. but thank you!
and I appreciate the offer and if I run into something I dont have info on.. I'll sure ask for your help. thanks a lot for watching..
And you probably do more by accident than he does on purpose eh? .....lol@me
My brother had a couple of Edsel's with push button control in the middle of the steering wheel
yes.
Things like that "cruddy" bellhousing is where a can of "EasyOff" oven cleaner comes in handy. Scrape all the heavy deposit off, then, hit it a few times with the oven cleaner. Works pretty well and it's pretty "affordable". That thing reminds me of a "Disney" friendly dragon.
Michael "Jolly" Goodfellow ran the 6066 site, He's on facebook and still into old trucks if you need info...
My neighbor got a blue 56 Plymouth convertible for her first car. My cousin, who lived next door to the neighbor, had a two tone blue 56 BelAir, 265 power pack with a stick. Her brother bought a new 56 Mercury Monterey 2 door. Lots of neat cars to remember.
Talk on, pick on and sing on. It's all good to me. Very interesting and entertaining. That big old V12 will make any Ratrod a winner, but it's gonna need a long nose and open engine bay. I wonder what a couple turbos would add,and maybe fuel injection. But that's really gonna depend on the vehicle you choose.
Idk bout to much talken.... But there sure ain't nuff sing'n!!!... Lol
Cool stuff can't wait to see what it's goin in!!
GMC 6066 is still up and running.
yeah it is now.. someone else took it over.. thankfully!
Always nice to have spare parts. It does pay to be a pack rat! ( As long as you know which pile you left it in, right?) I laughed when you pressure washed the bell housing anyway ( I would have too) . Nice commercial, I'd love to have a car with a record player. Very cool!
Hey Waylon, You never seem to run out of projects around there.. I look forward every day to check out youtube to see what you up to today. Thanks for sharing. As far as that guy saying to talk too much, well he said too much in that comment. I would rather listen to you than rather going on some of those sites where the guy does something a just points at what he did. You are not just teaching me stuff, you are entertaining me as well. And you charge me nothing. Thanks again.
Darn right, makes me tired just watching you! Thanks for taking us with you!
Never have to many spare parts. Great video Ken 👍. Nice project them v-12’s. Keep up the good work. Also never knew they put a record player in a car as part of the radio system.
As always you adapt and overcome the situation. Another thing is that if that tractor ever gives up you certainly couldn’t complain about it. Can’t wait to see more, Happy Holidays and God Bless
You just keep up the good work and we keep enjoying it you'll always one in the bunch I love you, man I'm happy to get out of it
it would sure be boring if you didn't talk so much, keep it up
That's a monster bell housing for a monster engine I would say, bet it's a beast in what ever you put it in ;-)
Times like that is when i go to the local truck wash... a few bucks to blow the crap off there is well worth it !
You need a steel bath tub full of degreaser to soak parts like that. Maybe even yourself after a hard days work. Lol
Its good ya got those extra engines fer parts. There is always a reason a person picks up parts.
That V-12 is an awesome engine for an automobile.
🤣 keep um coming ken, loving the show ‼️😎
great to have spare parts on hand,that commercial was awesome.
Has anyone ever put two 4.3 vortec V6's together to make a v12?
this is not two v6's. it is one block..
@@1963impala2drWaylonWire i know the 702 is one big block, i was just curious if anyone had tried to put two of the 4.3's together to make a v12 since its hard to find a 702
@@epicdaman3653 ah gotcha..dont know about 4.3..or why anyone would haha.. I have 4 of the big 60s v6's.. most of mine are the 305 but I have one 351 if I couple to those together I would have the equivalent of a 702. I was going to do that that's the reason I got the V6 is because I never thought I would own one of these V12s. I know it could be done I've seen lots of V8 couple together end-to-end... but nothing like the real thing man! Thank you for watching..
I'm subscribed.
thanks!
When you get our age we are over, time to do it twice but no time to it right
On the subject of engines, and transmissions......I have a 67 C/10 short bed step side with a 250 six, and three on the tree. I obtained an S 10 five speed. Do you think that the five speed will bolt up to the 250 bell housing without a bunch of trouble. I know that you put a five speed in the rocka billy rat rod, was just wondering if you had any trouble with that process.
it is my understanding that if you elongate a couple of holes on the bell housing, (rat tail file) the bolts will line up.. but the input shaft on the t5 will be too long. so you either have to cut some off the end.. I cant remember how much... maybe 1/2 inch.. or you can build an aluminum spacer of that thickness.. the rockabilly bell housing is different than yours so I had to adapt the spacer to the bell housing.. then drill it for the tranny to bolt up. yours is way easier. you may have to have a drive shaft made.. good luck!
Cool
Change one thing, then summat else don't fit.....usually the case eh Mate 😊
its a phenomenon, you change your oil and the tail lights quit working.. never fails.. you fix one thing and something TOTALLY unrelated will go tits up!
What gonna put it in when you're done Ken?
Have you checked the web archive site to see if they have that website?
its showing up for some people and not for others.. AND get this! it works on the computer in my office, but not the one in my home nor on my chromebook so who knows WHAT is going on haha..
@@1963impala2drWaylonWire you using the same operating system and web browser on both?
yep
@@1963impala2drWaylonWire that's really damn odd.
Can't wait to hear it run thanks for sharing
You are the one doing it you can do what you want !
how did I miss this Notification
Umm, did C.W. McCall have a hand in this video? (and the Starter weighed 60 pounds)? Oh, no... that was "and the Title weighed 60 pounds"... I got it One Piece at a Time!
That was Johnny Cash !
I know. I knew when I posted the comment.
bolt buy bolt youl getter done
Ain't been a makin any comments for awhile. Can now watch ya on the tv. No way to type anything. Still watchin & enjoying yer videos. Merry Christmas to ya from West "By God" Virginia ! See ya...
ol waylon on the big screen? thats scary!! haha
@@1963impala2drWaylonWire surround sound too. Lol
Waylon - these things are cool as hell - but in stock configuration the torque peak is (no exaggeration ) about 1200 rpm. They had pneumatic governors that limited them to about 2800-3000 rpm. A couple outfits have fitted the big valve heads and stuff to them. There's a video of one free-running and they proudly wind it up to all of 5 Grand. If it was me I would enhance the high rpm with a crank-driven centrifugal blower and use an aftercooler on it's air output. Then I'd bite the bullet and figure out how to get throttle-body computerized fuel injection to work right on the thing (blow-through carbs are for either real low boost or for drag racing only). To my way of thinking that would be preferable to changing a whole bunch of heads, cams and manifolds - "keep it more original" that way but also not "Me too" the thing. The injection could be made to cut it off at 5,000 rpm as well.
no computerized stuff for this baby.. I know its maxed at about 2400 rpms..thats where it makes 630 ft lbs of torque.. thats why I'm putting lots of gears behind it.. I have a 10 speed and a 2 speed rear end AND a 2 speed OR a 4 speed brownie box if I need it.. I'm not building anything to go flying down the freeway at 80 mph.. I'm just having fun man! :) thanks for watching!
@@1963impala2drWaylonWire I just remembered something - that IMPCO "CA Series" propane mixers (carbs) are about the only non-electronic things that could ever keep the mixture constant regardless of how much boost was put on their inlet. I don't like them because they don't respond right away when the foot throttle (or governor control) is slapped open - there is a big diaphragm that shuffles up and down and slides an air metering valve more open or more closed depending on the vacuum/pressures on both sides of it. As used on tons of propane forklifts it has a weird feel like there is throttle lag - on a plain (non-turbo) engine!
I have never seen a natural gas fueled 702 - but from pictures I think the mixers on them might be those IMPCOs.
If you ever get tired of the super low torque peak (deliberately built into) of the 702 then probably a belt-driven centrifugal blower and a couple of those mixers - along with changing the deliberately restrictive iron exhaust manifolds - would be the easiest way to raise it.
I read somewhere that back in the 1920s/30s limousines had to have big low compression engines to smoothly move those old heavy barges around from a standstill and in stop and go traffic without any fuss. But then instead of busily shifting gears 10 times to get to highway speed they preferred to have a nice quiet centrifugal blower extend the rev range enough to where 3 speeds (and only two shifts) would do. Last thing in this vein I want to add is that real real wide gear spacing (compared to later common 3 speed transmissions) would have been used. No worries about dropping the rpms down out of the power band like with a cammed up high rpm engine - because of starting with a "grunt motor" in the first place.
Hey just talking to myself out loud, here !
great vid..... thanks
Cool old add
That engine would sure look good in an old rat rod. Good show. 👍
stay tuned!
Funny , thanks Ken
I'm old, but what did that v12 engine come in originally?
Irrigation pumps of all things, check out some of his earlier vids on that motor. Kinda interesting.
A few were put in GMC and Chevrolet Semis. I heard they drank so much gasoline that private operators stayed away from them. Saw a couple in old GMC Cab+Chassis units that were made into fire trucks. I have heard about a California company whose business was tanker trucks that made the engines burn propane fuel out of the like 4,000 gallon tank on the back. (Realize propane was dirt cheap then - "a byproduct of gasoline refining") and they ran them a long time - well up into the mid-late 1970s.
@@helvehammer7846 That was what i was guessing..... for area's where gas fuel was more plentiful compared to diesel fuel. take care my friend, and you and yours have a happy holiday season eh.
they came stock in some of the old Seagrave fire trucks.. I've had some comments from 2 guys who actually ran them back in the day.. one guy said he hauled groceries in an old GMC semi' that got 1/2 mpg loaded and 2 mpg empty! haha.. of course back then gas was 24 cents per gallon so who cared ! its so cool I dont care either..but I'll probably have to save my lunch money just to go cruisin' on saturday night haha
@@1963impala2drWaylonWire Do you plan on running it as a stationary? or are you going to put it in something to drive?
Anyway . . . . don't get wet feet Kenneth :) . . . . Rog
too late! haha
Bonjour de France 😎
Thanks sir for your awsome hard work
thank you so much! a lot of people just criticize and never take into account how much time goes into producing these videos. it is my hobby and I enjoy it but it is nice to have a word of encouragement once in a while so THANK you for that :) haha.. and thanks for watching!
😉
What's all the white stuff?
i call it crap
white stuff is for "santas" vehicle on runners for conveying loads or passengers over snow or ice, often pulled by draught animals.
Bell housing but no bells!