I think a great cliffhanger for this seasons’ finale would be a jump forward in time. You see Fudge walking through the cells of Azkaban, where we see a bunch of deranged looking wizards, including one with long hair and a scraggly beard. As Fudge walks past his cell Black calls out ‘Cornelius!’ Fudge turns around in horror. ‘Can I borrow the paper?’ Fudge looks almost relieved but still a little frightened of Black, he hands Black the paper through the bars and then walks of. We see Black open the paper where there is the image of the Weasley’s in Egypt. We see Black’s look of boredom turn to one of fury and revenge. He scrunches up the paper looks at the camera and says ‘he’s now at Hogwarts’. And boom. Credits roll. This gives nothing away and next season when Black breaks out, the audience is already somewhat familiar with him.
The only problem I see with this is that him seeing a picture of Ron's family would make absolutely no sense if he (as we are told to begin with) wants to kill Harry. Since this point is what drives the plottwist at the end, making him seemingly want to kill Ron might make some people confused, or make his twist too predictable or obvious. It might also have the positive effect of creating mystery inside mystery, resulting in even more excitement. I don't know🤷♂
@@filip_aleksander_moenI think they could just as easily not show what is on the newspaper and just have him say his line without us seeing what is on the front page
At the end of the season, maybe when Tom Riddle is monologing to Harry, you can show flashbacks from Ginny's perspective. Show us how Tom Riddle manipulated her, how she realised the diary was evil. Here you chould foreshadow how horcroxes effect people.
13:25 A good way to make suspense in the show is to add a cut scene after the first few Hogwarts episodes showing a robed person killing the roosters or sneaking towards the roost and have a something showing like hair or shoes to get new fans to get engaged into a new mystery adding a good subplot for the new viewers to try to guess on who it could be. They can add stuff to point towards Hermione or other people and then in the Riddle monologue episode they can show flash backs to Ginny doing the things in those end cut scenes
I love this idea! Maybe just shoes though, and the robes, red hair would be too obvious haha. Also they could show spiders fleeing the castle after the chamber is opened, point it out once with the characters but after that just let the camera show it and the audience can put it together themselves that is is part of the mystery
I really hope each season has a post credit scene like the MCU to set up the next season. It would be so much fun to see what they tease especially as most people already know the story so they could do scenes we didn’t see previously but heard about or read in the books 1. We hear Lucius Malloy (but don’t see him so doesn’t spoil the mystery/reveal) being told about raids being conducted by Arthur Weasley and we see the diary in the basement 2. A reveal of Sirius Black in his cell in Azkaban muttering continuously “he’s at Hogwarts” or Fudge doing his inspection and Sirius asks him for his newspaper 3. Pettigrew in Albania, maybe in the woods looking for Voldemort hearing whispers or at a bar when he overhears Bertha Jorkins talking about the Quidditch World Cup 4. A reveal of Umbridge at the Ministry with others talking about how something needs to be done about Harry and Dumbledore spreading lies about Voldemort 5. Harry arrives back in Privet Drive and finds a letter from Dumbledore saying he will collect him in a couple of weeks and that he has something he wants his help with or Harry looking at newspapers seeing Fudge has resigned and other news like the Amelia Bones murder 6. There’s loads of things you could do here but I would have Scrimgeour at his desk with Dumbledore’s will as he looks at the items he leaves to Harry Ron and Hermionie, he could flick through the book and we see a glimpse of the Deathly Hallows symbol, holds the snitch then drops it, he clicks the deluminator and the lights go out ending the scene If they split Deathly Hallows up again (pointless for a series but they could) then I would have the tease be the Dumbledore’s Army coins being activated with the message to return to Hogwarts
I'd like to see more of the Weasley family's summer holiday in Egypt- It could introduce Bill and Charlie, hinting at Pettigrew, expanding the magical world with a glimpse of the Egyptian version of Diagon Alley.
What i think they can do is making each episode of the first 3 seasons like 30-35 minutes long, which can solve the pacing issues and give us the gripping story we want, it will be good to know what you think of this idea, thanks!
I know you have your doubts about this as a series, but they way you laid out the episodes sounds pretty good. HBO should give you a call! I actually think Chamber is the spookiest of the books, disembodied voices, giant spiders, child 'killing' monsters, lots of sneaking around a real mystery that ramps up the stakes. I hope the tv series really amps up the spooky mystery factor here.
Something they also need to do to differentiate the show from the movies is make the magic more magical and whimsy like it is in the books. In the films it kinda just devolves into laser beams flying this way and that. In the films there’s barely any talking or belching furniture, there are never sparks emitting from the wands, nothing pops, bangs or cracks, and the duels are mostly just two guys shooting a connected beam of light at each other. They also rarely say the spells aloud and they use Avada Kedavra way too much. They’ve got to get this right.
Yes - enchanted set pieces and a whimsical world around them sounds fantastic. Particularly for the earlier seasons. I understand why duels are the way they are - but I would LOVE more duels like Dumbledore/Voldemort in OoTP where they use and enchant their surroundings rather than just shoot curses back and forth.
Strongly disagree on the Avada Kedavra point. It’s simply a consequence of the way the story is written. There’s just no good reason anyone who’s looking to kill would ever use anything but the killing curse
@@HugoGojibiter The books state on multiple occasions that only really powerful wizards can use Avada Kedavra, or any of the other unforgivable curses, for that matter. For example, Bellatrix kills Sirius with some red spell that makes him fall through the Veil. She doesn’t use the killing curse, because it either takes too much focus or power, which she needs to save for the duel. That’s how I’ve always interpreted the killing curse in the books. It’s a massively powerful spell that can’t be used a lot. It’s also super dangerous, because it can’t be blocked. Yet they constantly block it in the films.
@@anonymousperson8475 Thing is, if it’s supposed to be super difficult to master so that only the most powerful of wizards would be capable… then Cedric’s death needs to be changed because there’s just no way Petigrew would be able to do it
Yes! That's one thing that I didn't like about the movie - they never actually explained why Sirius and Peter are Animagi or that James was one too and could turn into a deer. They also never explain the nicknames. The following movies just kind of expect you to know that.
Here's my breakdown: - Ep 1 (Introduction + Inciting Incident) -- The Worst Birthday; Dobby's Warning -- End with Dobby warning Harry not to go back to Hogwarts - Ep 2 (End of Act 1) -- The Burrow; At Floursh and Blotts; The Whomping Willow -- End with Ron and Harry crashing into the Whomping Willow - Ep 3 (Raising Action) -- Gilderoy Lockhart; Mudbloods and Murmurs - Ep 4 (Raising Action + Complication) -- The Deathday Party; The Writing on the Wall -- The midpoint at Hallowe'en. - Ep 5 (Raising Action) -- The Rogue Bludger; The Dueling Club - Ep 6 (Raising Action) -- The Polyjuice Potion; The Very Secret Diary -- End at the revelation that Hagrid opened the chamber of secrets before - Ep 7 (Raising Action + Climax) -- Cornelius Fudge; Aragog; The Chamber of Secrets -- End with Ginny being taken into the chamber - Ep 8 (Denoumont) -- The Heir of Slytherin; Dobby' Reward Note: This is a rough breakdown. Like with my breakdown of Book 1, the idea is to keep the main story beats (3/5 act story structure) aligned with the episodes, while giving the key episodes a cliffhanger/hook for the next episode. This is also the same sort of structure I would keep throughout the series. In terms of adapting the text, there's plenty there to pick up on. You don't just have to turn a paragraph of text into a single look or establishing shot. You can take what the paragraph is telling the reader and showing that. Show how Ginny interacts with Harry at the Burrow, maybe throw in a few additional scenes of awkward interactions. Have Harry, Ron, and Hermione have additional conversations about Harry being accused of being the heir of Slytherin; show how he reacts inthe various classes, etc. Show Harry overhearing conversations at Burgin and Burkes while trying to stay hidden/escape, possibly with death eaters or other characters. Show Ginny and Harry talking to the diary -- you could use that to provide insight into their thoughts while making diary Tom Riddle both sympathetic and manipulative; done right that can hint at what Tom is actually like (for the reveal for people who don't know the story) without making it obvious. There's plenty you can do to bring the text to life and to show what is narrated in the story. That does mean writing additional scenes and not just lifting the text one-to-one, but this is a different story-telling medium.
But But But.....Peeves dropping/breaking the cabinet wasn't mentioned for "episode 3"! SUCH a huge moment and can potentially tie in the showing of the cabinet from "episode 2" how they are a twin pair!!
Heres how I would pace the show. It's been a while scince I have read the book or seen the movie so some things i may have forgotten or mixed up the order. 201. Meetings Dobby- Escaping 40 min 202. The Burrow-Arriving at Hogwarts 55 min 203. First Week- Deathday Party 50 min 204. dueling club-Quitich Match 50 min 205. PolyJuice - Harry getting the Diary 50 min 206. Diary Flashback-Hermione being Petrofiried 55 min 207. Airagog- going to the chamber 45 min 208. The Chamber of Secrets-End 1 hr
Loved this season idea. Would be nice to have Harry asking Dumbledore what the diary is exactly and Dumbledore answering like he does in the book but adding that he’ll have a closer look at it.
The Handmaids Tale was one book that generated 5 (6 in 2025) seasons that averaged 12 hour long episodes per season. You lot are thinking to linear storytelling. This will NOT be another retread. They will explore the entire of the world and characters, that didn’t get much attention in the films or books for that matter. This series will be a true ensemble. We will care more about the entire cast than before.
I still think they not only can but will have to just stack up backstory in the first two books. They won’t really have time in later seasons to focus on the eccentricities of things like the Burrow and Diagon Alley. In DH they will have to just do stuff Bill and Fleur’s wedding and Gringotts without wasting time on character and scene building. This season would also be a good opportunity to go ahead and dig into stuff like Hagrid’s backstory, and maybe even introducing some Voldy backstory.
A great way for the TV show to develop and differentiate itself more from the movies, would be to flesh out things that are not strictly in the books/written out on a page but things that we KNOW happen in the timeframe of a specific book, just little stories and bits that maybe are written out on in an article on what has formerly been pottermore n stuff. Giving the world we have in the books more space to breathe and exist outside of Harrys narrative and give maybe some cool moments to other important characters.
0:10 why into 8 or more hours? why not have season 1 and 2 just be shorter in the amount of episodes and the longer the books / the more content there is the more episodes you produce?
I would like to see Arthur going on the raids, and seeing how he and Molly are handling all their kids being out of the house. I want to see what the Malfoys are up to. And Lucius getting the other governors to to remove Dumbledore could be in an episode. Hope they give us time to spend with the other character that aren't at Hogwarts. They need to flesh out the world. I do like the idea of telling the story with flashbacks incorporated.
Episodes first season could be shorter in length. 30 min. Fitting more with the more children books of the first ones and more fun less serious and dark. As things get more mature and dark, increase episode length and episode count. First 3 seasons will feel more like Percy Jackson Tv Show. Later seasons more like Game of Thrones
@@patricio95totally agree that number of episodes AND episode length can change as needed. The last thing we need is filler content. Writers are so bad these days, we can’t let them have room to play with
Having Mr Malfoy put the diary in Ginny's cauldron at the end of philosophers stone would make more sense since. Considering that Mr Weasley's raids had been going on all summer. He would want to get rid of the most dangerous thing first.
Not really, Arthur raids don't start happening until mid-way through the summer. I want the diary to be slipped in with Ginny's pre-owned books after her Dad and Draco's dad have a fight. That's was something that got left out in the movie.
I also want them to foreshadow the deathly hallows and the horcruxes (as you said) in some ways (well pretty obvious for the horcruxes with the diary but I don’t really know how for the DH), and why not already (slightly) introducing Slughorn in the flashback of the diary?
As cool as the Slughorn cameo would be, I think getting an actor to sign on for a flashback in season 2, with the expectation that they'll keep their schedule free to shoot season 6 years later, might be a big ask
Same as season/book 1 I wrote this on your overall seasons video before this one, but again I like how much we were on the same page generally. I think the key thing to remember is that the Harry Potter books are mysteries, yes they’re in a magical world but it’s still a mystery story at the core so having petrified victims in episodes 3-6 (Norris, Colin, Justin/Nick, Hermionie) and 7 ending with Ginny’s message of being taken into the chamber is a great way to pace it out. At the start of episode 3 maybe Hermionie could mention to a first year like Colin there’s so much history to the castle and talk about the Forrest, the lake etc and mention the chamber then as part of a list but it’s just a myth according to Hogwarts a history, then the episode ends with the chamber being opened Chamber of secrets roughly plotted out 1. Harry’s birthday, Dobby, Ron and the twins rescue Harry, end with arriving at the Burrow 2. Burrow, Knockturn/Diagon Alley, flying the car to Hogwarts, Whomping Willow 3. Lockhart class (Pixies), Quidditch/slugs, detention with Lockhart 4. Deathday party, Mrs Norris petrified, Quidditch/Dobby/Colin petrified 5. Duelling Club, Justin/Nick petrified, Polyjuice Potion, Harry finds the diary 6. Diary flashback, losing the diary, Hermionie petrified 7. Hagrid’s arrest/Dumbledore suspended, meeting with Aragog, Ginny is taken into the Chamber 8. Lockhart’s memory charm, Riddle in the Chamber, Basilisk fight, destroy the diary, free Dobby I think 8 episodes of roughly 30-40 minutes each gives 4-5 hours which is plenty for Chamber
That's dandy but the gang doesn't even know that the chamber exists at all until it's opened and they stumble across Mrs. Norris and the writing on the wall. At which point Hermione then asks McGonagall about it during their next Transfiguration class.
Has there been any confirmation on being a hard 8 episodes? HBO and other tv studios have in the past had shorter seasons in some tv shows. I wouldn't be surprised if PS and CS are somewhat shorterned episode counts in the early season. Unless there's filler episodes that create backstory on characters it is just hard to see how they can take the early books and have them in 8 or more episodes. Especially if these episodes are nearly an hour in length. I think the finales of the first few seasons definitley need to have a setup for the next book, like maybe at the end of PS season you see a tease with the chamber of secret slowly opening for an example, and maybe the end of book 3 you see the village where the Riddles were from I am definitley looking forward to books 4, 5 and 6. Tons of content was cut in the movies so those have plenty of book materials to finally get live action justice.
Okay we live in an era where TV does not need to have 8 episodes per season. For these first few seasons the general population will actually understand shorter seasons if they're good (still doubting why they adapted it). Some of the best shows have three to four HOUR seasons so don't give them ideas for drawing out the story. All we need is a few shorter seasons to get to the good stuff.
I like the idea of Vernon waking up and looking in Harry's room just as the Twins are carrying Harry's trunk to the window. There's a brief pause as Vernon takes in the scene, his mind lost in a haze as he tries to rationalize what he's seeing. The Twins then say in unison, " You're dreaming, mate." Vernon nods knowingly, smiles to himself, and waddles off. The Twins chuckle silently as they load the trunk when Vernon's roaring startles them and panic finally sets in.
Introducing screaming dwars should be seen too, in movie we only see them when Sproud show them. There are moments where easly can at the clifhanger: Harry closing the door and be bored in his room, then in next episode you can start with Dobby. After there discover the 9-3/4 wall don't work, after the car trow them out and drives a way. 5th and 3th season i looking forward the moost, because the novels are my favorite. This time i whant Bus also seen in the 5th season. I personaly don't mind if Julian Glover return as the voice of Aragog. What also be inportent that show Young Tom Riddle from Chamber at the end of 5th season as in the book, for movie it was old Fienes.
I expect flashback episodes frequently during the course of the show In this case the Ginny's possession/Tom Riddle reveal would happen at the end of the 6th episode, then the entire 7th episode would be dedicated to Riddle's time at Hogwarts and Ginny's acts while possessed
The tv series needs to add one crucial scene that the movie left out! Valentines Day! It will be so much fun, visually, but of more importance it is how Ginny discovers that Harry now has the diary! The scene, like the one in the book, has to have all the "suspects" nearby to witness Harry's bag breaking and all the books falling out, including the diary. I would also enjoy the idea of Percy as a suspect. This was neglected in the movie but all his secretive meetings with his girlfriend could lead the trio to wonder what he was up to. They also need to include the scene of Ginny coming to confess everything to Ron and Harry, but being overheard by Percy who interrupts her, thinking she is going to tell about his girlfriend.
I have a question - What if they do episode one to five telling the story and keeping the mystery then episode six to ten filling in the blanks So on episode 5 Harry would kill the basilisk but on episode 6 it would say *months earlier* then show Ginny's side for 2 episode and Dobby's and Lucius's Would that make sense to you if they went about it like that ?
They could give us “behind the scenes” shots like Dobby’s life at Malfoy Manor and show us characters that appear later in the books like Narcissa. Things we didn’t see in the movie or read in the book but we know happened.
Also Brett I could see you breaking this up into 2 videos per. You kinda did this before but comparing the show to the movie on what will be done different or what you want to be done better. If not a 2nd video maybe just more of a deeper dive. For example they did this in the show and I think they nailed it no changes necessary but how will they do it different to be as good or better, same as "o they didnt do this scene well in the movie" and they can make it better by xyz. You kinda do this when describing scenes but you could really describe it by film descriptions such as b roll, zoom ins, setting up the scene etc. Also, takes on casting and directing. Do we like the casting of the characters in the movie? no? how can we do it better? or if it was a good casting but maybe not great directions, ooooorrrr flawless movie characters.. how do we give that justice. I know we cant compare this to the movie as it should be its on entity but thats impossible to do ya know.
I would like to see them bring in new plots to the earlier books especially, maybe even things that foreshadow future plots in the later seasons. I don’t think it should be a chapter by chapter retelling. They need to build each episode as their own, rather than telling the full story as one but splitting it up into episodes. I actually think the earlier seasons will be 6 episodes long, rather than 8. But we’ll see!
I hope a TV series can fix a few of the problems the books had, such as not having any *good* Slytherin characters. Just having a few minor characters in the other houses who get fleshed out more would help balance things, but Slytherin is the only house that really didn't get any proper rep until the end, and that was only one professor.
One main issue with doing a TV series of Harry Potter is Harry is probably going to end up being the only character to appear in every episode. In fact if you look at all of the book and imagine break them down into episodes Ron and Hermione are more than likely doing to be absent from episode 1 from every season and even some other episodes as well considering they don’t have a lot to do in Goblet of Fire and Half-Blood Prince.
The books (and I hope) the TV series are about a trio as whole. The movies made it into "Harry and Hermione and their good friend Ron who they let rag along".
Don’t know why but watching this I could not stop thinking about Anthony Starr as Gilderoy Lockhart. But it think the Only UK actors policy that JK had for the movies will also apply for this series
I think you might be looking at the series wrong and from a perspective of the books are great so they just have to follow along the story from each book but how many shows have ever done this especially in the last decade? Not really any of them, game of thrones maybe until they ran out of books 🤔 What im trying to say is they are obviously going to be adding a lot of things not in the books regardless if it’s books 1-3 or the bigger books there after. I’m pretty sure the “Last of Us” show runner is apart of or doing HP as well where they took 2 small characters who were a small part from there and gave them an entire episode just of them (granted it was an amazing episode) but obviously there will be a lot of new things that will be added but let’s just hope it’s good story, plot or character developing being added is all we can hope for as well as staying true to the books.
They should have done Marauders first, and then give us glimpses of the Marauders story on the main HP series. What was Lupin doing all these years, how Sirius blamed himself for Lily and James's death. What was Voldemort doing? What were the Death Eaters doing? Give us an introduction on the Order of the Phoenix so we already know who these people are when introduced along the seasons
Maybe they should do like two three seasons because like you say the first one could be four episodes the second one could be five or something and so they could just fill up a number of seasons with episodes of varying lengths and varying value on the book side after all I would love to just have Harry Potter leave and then have something in the middle and then come back to start the next season or start the next episode.
I'll die on this hill: a TV series should be anime! And they can also make the l seasons as long or short as needed! And to your point about thoughts - think Death Note! They could do internal dialouge similar to that! And they can make them half hour episodes.... or 50 minute episodes if they really wanted. Anime is the way to go! And it'll make it different than live action movies, get a variety of talent to join, and make it easier to "recast" if needed. Besdies that, I do love your plot and episode ideas!
They are quite obviously going to have to write completely new scenes and plots for every season as none of the books are long enough to become a TV show and that even goes for order of the Phoenix. The issue we saw with the movies was too many people in the kitchen making decisions that would make the movies more accessible and digestible for the kid audience which is why we saw the complete degradation of the series with the OotP movie and how it became a Disney production version of Harry Potter. As the movies got deeper they were so scared by the younger audience they refused to allow the series to go deeper, darker and longer because OotP could of easily been a 3 hour movie which would also show how serious the series is getting
I try braking it book 2 into epsides before watching this. Only difference i also try brake each epsideo into 4 act structure. I got very simpler episodes. I think this book has far better min stories for each epside compared to first. First season you have to just tie to plot points togather to filled out episode even if they don't make a fully story for each episoded. Hopfuly the writes are allowed to have the story dicted the lenght of the episode rather the lenght of epsides dictate story. Only other feature i would add was to have a cold open for each episode. These scenes are the only not harry lead scense. For season 2 i would have each cold open flashback to founders and there charter development while foreshadowing what conflicts are coming in this episode. For season 3 i would have cold open flash back to marauders and them becoming friends. Have them just using nicknames to keep plot twist for new views. Have actors being just 13 so when they return in later flash backs(book 5) you can use same actors just age
The simplest solution to the simplicity of the plot is to draw on those moments that are reflective, let the emotional beats be given more weight. When the book describes something in length it should be given more than a few seconds of time. World building is the most impactful aspect of this franchise. For example the main subplot I want to see expanded upon more is seeing Harry exploring the possibility he was put into the wrong house, and giving the sense that it really could be Harry that is the heir of Slytherin. Really have the tension rise so it makes it even more of a relief for the twins to make light of the entire situation. Though potentially it could be even more interesting for the mystery to be revealed to the audience before the characters discover it, seeing how the diary slowly corrupted Ginny though also it could explain the reason why the Basilisk never actually kills is that Ginny is fighting being made to do all things so we see the beginnings of her fiery nature. There’s also opportunity to more strongly suggest the diary as a horcrux rather than being more of a retrospective “oh yeah, the diary was this thing too” later on in the series. Not suggesting a full reveal, the expanding narrative should exist but feel more natural. As I mentioned with Philosophers Stone, the world should feel fully established from the get go, new things can be introduced though we should see those things already existing, they are simply “introduced” to Harry as his understanding of the Wizarding World grows.
To be fair I think that both book and movie already did a pretty good job with the diary. When Dumbledore sees it he holds it up and just ponders it for a moment as some sort of realization begins to sink in. Like it's a more subtle and quiet moment sure but is that necessarily a bad thing?
It’s well regarded as the weakest of them all, it has lots of setup with very little payoff. We don’t find out the true nature of the diary until close to the end of the series, retrospective we can see how Voldemort was always going to return.
@ObsessiveGeek Might be so but I feel that The Chamber of Secrets is underrated and sometimes receives unnecessary hate. Could be biased from my side but I remember that after watching the first movie at the age of maybe 6? I was left feeling “where’s the magic?” not from the world itself but more from the main characters (golden trio). Later when I read the books I had the same feelings. The Chamber of Secrets then comes and we see duels and more spellcasting which for me fixed the feeling. Chamber of Secrets also has a more intriguing danger from my point of view, a huge snake that are a danger to others inside the castle, not just for the golden trio. McGonagall shows fear for the situation and the professors are talking about closing the school. This sets the bar for the basilisk and Voldemort and makes it a fascinating foe. 1st movie never gave the danger feeling as the golden trio were the ones poking around about the stone but the rest of the school went on like nothing. From the SuperCarlinBrothers “Dumbledor’s grand plan” they theorize that the obstacles in first movie Fluffy, Devil’s snare (movie)/potion riddle (book), catching the key and chess match was never anything dangerous as it was only a test for the golden trio. Catching key for Harry’s excellent broom work, devil’s snare/potion riddle for Hermione’s knowledge and the chess game for Ron’s talent. Final fight with Prof. Quirrel/Voldemort never gave a danger feeling either as Harry only had to touch him (even though it’s a very important information for later about Voldemort’s problem with Harry). But The Chamber of Secrets has students being petrified, Harry has to fight the basilisk and almost dies from the venom until Fawkes rescues him, which is to my previous point about danger. The Chamber of Secrets also sets the tone with the Weasley family, Lucius Malfoy, Dobby, let’s us get some background information about a founder (Salazar Slytherin, especially in the book by Prof. Binns), etc. For me it’s a great movie/book and can be very well done but they need to master the pacing of that season and maybe have lesser episodes and really shine the light on the key moments. Sorry for the long text and English is not my first language but I hope I got the point across.
@@Jägarn-swe I don’t hate on CoS, it has a lot going for it - just overall in comparison to the rest of the series I found it the weakest. My entry into Harry Potter was around the time the Philosophers Stone movie came out, however I initially considered it as “nonsense” and had no interest in it until a work colleague started talking about the books she was listening to (at this point they were audio cassettes) so I gave the audio version of Philosophers Stone a listen and I got hooked. Eventually I bought all the novels that were available which was the first four even though I had listened to them all, I read through the novels too. I have since then got all the novels and seen all the movies and have the digital versions of the audiobooks too. I’ve also been to the stage production of The Cursed Child, visited the WB Studio Tour in London and been on the Jacobite steam train in Scotland that goes across the Glenfinnan Viaduct (seen most notably in Chamber of Secrets when Harry and Ron are on the flying car trying to get to Hogwarts) as well as visiting other places that were the inspiration for various elements of the series. I also had a profile on Pottermore (now known as Wizarding World) when it first launched, the website now isn’t nearly as fun as it was then. I used to also be fairly active on a fan website called The Leaky Cauldron (still going strong) and even have a replica of Harry’s wand so I don’t say this lightly when I say I’m a fan. So please don’t take it badly that I say CoS is the weakest, the entire series is amazing and are rightly one of the most well known and loved throughout the world. So even the weakest part is far better than many other stories that try to copy Harry Potter. I can understand your attraction to that one as it was your entryway into the world. I highly recommend you give the audiobooks a listen, for me that’s still the best way to experience the story. (UK version if possible)
@ObsessiveGeek No worries, I’m not taking it badly, I’m just trying to explain why it’s 2nd place for me personally. I’ve watched the movies, read the books in Swedish, listened to the audiobooks read by Stephen Fry (don’t know if I spell his name correctly), traveled to WB studios, created Pottermore account (now Wizarding World, I miss the potions class you could do in Pottermore), etc. so I’m up to speed. For me I take everything into consideration, for example I find the Goblet of Fire book great with all the details but the movie really bad, so it ends up mid for me. CoS is a great movie and book in my opinion and there for I place it on a higher rank than other in the series. In the end it’s personal taste which was suggested in my original post.
@@Jägarn-swe I look at it from more of a critical angle. How each story impacts upon the overall plot and like I say CoS has a lot of setup and very little payoff until much later on, so the TV series needs to be able to reframe how the story is presented to give it the impact it deserves.
This would be a great season and I really like your idea of giving certain episodes to one of the trio I think that would keep it very refreshing and allow the characters to be more flushed out and developed
You act like this will be difficult, but so much was left out that it really won’t be that hard What will be hard is wrapping up books 6 & 7 in one season each
That second episode is way too long . First episode should end with a shot of the borrow from above. Second episode should end with the barrier being sealed.
I actually think it will be fine if they make 7 eps of 30 mins each I think they can keep the story concise but yet very detailed (cut out some unnecessary dialogue and all)
Dude youre seriously sucking the fun out of it. So what if they dont get to hogwarts until episode 3 or 4? It would be cool to have an entire episode of the dursleys, ending with hagrids arrival. A second episode at the leaky cauldron and diagon alley would be amazing for world building and really showing the wonder of the wizarding world for the first time. Episode 3 would be a great time to head to hogwarts.
Your making me really excited for this Harry Potter series with these videos!!! Last episode should end also with Harry freeing Dobby... end it on a high note because that's gonna be the last time the series will be able to do that 😅 Also I wouldn't mind some extra scenes with other classmates... getting to know Dean and Thomas and some of the other Hogwartsstudents a bit more
Prisoner ends in a mostly positive way too, obviously wormtail has escaped and the looming threat of Voldemort draws nearer though we still have an overall sense of everything potentially turning out good in the end thanks to Sirius. There’s not any chance to make Goblit of Fire have any positive conclusion, though it can have more of a “we won’t let this beat us” vibe. The series does get progressively darker though the films went a bit too hard on that, it’s mostly when the Wizard War is at its height things should feel the most hopeless.
@@ObsessiveGeek poa is just so sad... maybe it ends on a somewhat good/positieve note. Sirius has escaped, and we know he's innocent. But the trutje Harry has learned about his parents andctheir friends... is just incredibly sad and heartbreaking. It's like Harry says (at least in the movies); none of it made any difference....
7:09 just want to point out that in your version of the Philosopher's Stone in the end credits, Lucius slips the diary into Ginnys bag on platform 9 and ¾
I just hope they stick to the books. Don't add unnecessary real life problems. Don't add any sexual orientations that are not in the book Stick to the book & it'll be great
First, as i mentioned previously on ur channel, they may have only 7 or even 6 episodes, it all depends on the time filmed overall. Then number 2, i can definitely see them adding some stuff, as they already did for the og films, they didn't have an issue there, so prolly won't have it here. and if some ppl complain, they may just call it enrichment of the magical world. And then thirdly, what i would really want for the series is consistency. We saw hogwarts and world building details evolve so much throughout og films, i would hate it to ruin the tvs. Like i dont want pensieve or throwback sequences to jump back n forth from black n white, technicolour and green-ish filled screen of HB prince
No offence, but you pulled the movie blunder. You forgot _how_ Ginny knew to ransack Harry's room and the most hilarious Valentine's at Hogwarts ever. _His eyes were as green as a fresh-pickled toad..._ Come on, don't rob us of this.😂😂😂😂 Plus, I always thought it dumb in the movies how Harry found the diary, used it once and then there's Neville rushing at Harry telling about the ransacked room.
The show does not have to be 6-8-10 episodes, just make enough to make it include everything and make it exciting. It is totaly fine if the first 3 seasons is 3-5 episodes
I think a great cliffhanger for this seasons’ finale would be a jump forward in time. You see Fudge walking through the cells of Azkaban, where we see a bunch of deranged looking wizards, including one with long hair and a scraggly beard. As Fudge walks past his cell Black calls out ‘Cornelius!’ Fudge turns around in horror. ‘Can I borrow the paper?’ Fudge looks almost relieved but still a little frightened of Black, he hands Black the paper through the bars and then walks of. We see Black open the paper where there is the image of the Weasley’s in Egypt. We see Black’s look of boredom turn to one of fury and revenge. He scrunches up the paper looks at the camera and says ‘he’s now at Hogwarts’. And boom. Credits roll. This gives nothing away and next season when Black breaks out, the audience is already somewhat familiar with him.
YES PLEASE
The only problem I see with this is that him seeing a picture of Ron's family would make absolutely no sense if he (as we are told to begin with) wants to kill Harry. Since this point is what drives the plottwist at the end, making him seemingly want to kill Ron might make some people confused, or make his twist too predictable or obvious.
It might also have the positive effect of creating mystery inside mystery, resulting in even more excitement.
I don't know🤷♂
@@filip_aleksander_moenI think they could just as easily not show what is on the newspaper and just have him say his line without us seeing what is on the front page
@@Cookler Wow... You are an actual genius!
Man, I feel stupid now😆
Yea but let’s not let him look
At the camera tho
At the end of the season, maybe when Tom Riddle is monologing to Harry, you can show flashbacks from Ginny's perspective.
Show us how Tom Riddle manipulated her, how she realised the diary was evil. Here you chould foreshadow how horcroxes effect people.
13:25 A good way to make suspense in the show is to add a cut scene after the first few Hogwarts episodes showing a robed person killing the roosters or sneaking towards the roost and have a something showing like hair or shoes to get new fans to get engaged into a new mystery adding a good subplot for the new viewers to try to guess on who it could be. They can add stuff to point towards Hermione or other people and then in the Riddle monologue episode they can show flash backs to Ginny doing the things in those end cut scenes
I love this idea! Maybe just shoes though, and the robes, red hair would be too obvious haha. Also they could show spiders fleeing the castle after the chamber is opened, point it out once with the characters but after that just let the camera show it and the audience can put it together themselves that is is part of the mystery
I really hope each season has a post credit scene like the MCU to set up the next season. It would be so much fun to see what they tease especially as most people already know the story so they could do scenes we didn’t see previously but heard about or read in the books
1. We hear Lucius Malloy (but don’t see him so doesn’t spoil the mystery/reveal) being told about raids being conducted by Arthur Weasley and we see the diary in the basement
2. A reveal of Sirius Black in his cell in Azkaban muttering continuously “he’s at Hogwarts” or Fudge doing his inspection and Sirius asks him for his newspaper
3. Pettigrew in Albania, maybe in the woods looking for Voldemort hearing whispers or at a bar when he overhears Bertha Jorkins talking about the Quidditch World Cup
4. A reveal of Umbridge at the Ministry with others talking about how something needs to be done about Harry and Dumbledore spreading lies about Voldemort
5. Harry arrives back in Privet Drive and finds a letter from Dumbledore saying he will collect him in a couple of weeks and that he has something he wants his help with or Harry looking at newspapers seeing Fudge has resigned and other news like the Amelia Bones murder
6. There’s loads of things you could do here but I would have Scrimgeour at his desk with Dumbledore’s will as he looks at the items he leaves to Harry Ron and Hermionie, he could flick through the book and we see a glimpse of the Deathly Hallows symbol, holds the snitch then drops it, he clicks the deluminator and the lights go out ending the scene
If they split Deathly Hallows up again (pointless for a series but they could) then I would have the tease be the Dumbledore’s Army coins being activated with the message to return to Hogwarts
I'd like to see more of the Weasley family's summer holiday in Egypt- It could introduce Bill and Charlie, hinting at Pettigrew, expanding the magical world with a glimpse of the Egyptian version of Diagon Alley.
What i think they can do is making each episode of the first 3 seasons like 30-35 minutes long, which can solve the pacing issues and give us the gripping story we want, it will be good to know what you think of this idea, thanks!
It's good that it's hbo so they don't need to fit the show lenght into stander tv structure.
Well, pretty much all tv doesn't have to deal with standard TV lengths as most TV that isn't sit coms or long running cop shows isn't on cable.
The founders backstory episode can also show the diadem of ravenclaw, hufflepuffs cup and gryffindors sword to set up those important items
Oh yes please!
I know you have your doubts about this as a series, but they way you laid out the episodes sounds pretty good. HBO should give you a call!
I actually think Chamber is the spookiest of the books, disembodied voices, giant spiders, child 'killing' monsters, lots of sneaking around a real mystery that ramps up the stakes. I hope the tv series really amps up the spooky mystery factor here.
The more I think about the Harry Potter TV the more I'm excited a d I'm looking forward to the 4 th and 6th season
As long as it’s mentioned that hagrids chickens were killed so the trio don’t look stupid by not bringing one to kill the basilisk
Love this video. Hoping you do this type of breakdown for each book
Agreed
Something they also need to do to differentiate the show from the movies is make the magic more magical and whimsy like it is in the books. In the films it kinda just devolves into laser beams flying this way and that. In the films there’s barely any talking or belching furniture, there are never sparks emitting from the wands, nothing pops, bangs or cracks, and the duels are mostly just two guys shooting a connected beam of light at each other. They also rarely say the spells aloud and they use Avada Kedavra way too much. They’ve got to get this right.
Yes - enchanted set pieces and a whimsical world around them sounds fantastic. Particularly for the earlier seasons.
I understand why duels are the way they are - but I would LOVE more duels like Dumbledore/Voldemort in OoTP where they use and enchant their surroundings rather than just shoot curses back and forth.
Strongly disagree on the Avada Kedavra point. It’s simply a consequence of the way the story is written. There’s just no good reason anyone who’s looking to kill would ever use anything but the killing curse
@@HugoGojibiter The books state on multiple occasions that only really powerful wizards can use Avada Kedavra, or any of the other unforgivable curses, for that matter. For example, Bellatrix kills Sirius with some red spell that makes him fall through the Veil. She doesn’t use the killing curse, because it either takes too much focus or power, which she needs to save for the duel. That’s how I’ve always interpreted the killing curse in the books. It’s a massively powerful spell that can’t be used a lot. It’s also super dangerous, because it can’t be blocked. Yet they constantly block it in the films.
@@anonymousperson8475 Thing is, if it’s supposed to be super difficult to master so that only the most powerful of wizards would be capable… then Cedric’s death needs to be changed because there’s just no way Petigrew would be able to do it
@@HugoGojibiter I mean Pettigrew became an animagus at 16 years old or something so maybe he’s more powerful than he let’s on🤷♂️
They could do something unique with book 3 by having a few episodes dedicated to the marauders backstory
They could just do one episode dedicated to the backstory since there isn’t too much content for 2 episodes
Yes! That's one thing that I didn't like about the movie - they never actually explained why Sirius and Peter are Animagi or that James was one too and could turn into a deer. They also never explain the nicknames. The following movies just kind of expect you to know that.
Here's my breakdown:
- Ep 1 (Introduction + Inciting Incident) -- The Worst Birthday; Dobby's Warning -- End with Dobby warning Harry not to go back to Hogwarts
- Ep 2 (End of Act 1) -- The Burrow; At Floursh and Blotts; The Whomping Willow -- End with Ron and Harry crashing into the Whomping Willow
- Ep 3 (Raising Action) -- Gilderoy Lockhart; Mudbloods and Murmurs
- Ep 4 (Raising Action + Complication) -- The Deathday Party; The Writing on the Wall -- The midpoint at Hallowe'en.
- Ep 5 (Raising Action) -- The Rogue Bludger; The Dueling Club
- Ep 6 (Raising Action) -- The Polyjuice Potion; The Very Secret Diary -- End at the revelation that Hagrid opened the chamber of secrets before
- Ep 7 (Raising Action + Climax) -- Cornelius Fudge; Aragog; The Chamber of Secrets -- End with Ginny being taken into the chamber
- Ep 8 (Denoumont) -- The Heir of Slytherin; Dobby' Reward
Note: This is a rough breakdown. Like with my breakdown of Book 1, the idea is to keep the main story beats (3/5 act story structure) aligned with the episodes, while giving the key episodes a cliffhanger/hook for the next episode. This is also the same sort of structure I would keep throughout the series.
In terms of adapting the text, there's plenty there to pick up on. You don't just have to turn a paragraph of text into a single look or establishing shot. You can take what the paragraph is telling the reader and showing that.
Show how Ginny interacts with Harry at the Burrow, maybe throw in a few additional scenes of awkward interactions. Have Harry, Ron, and Hermione have additional conversations about Harry being accused of being the heir of Slytherin; show how he reacts inthe various classes, etc.
Show Harry overhearing conversations at Burgin and Burkes while trying to stay hidden/escape, possibly with death eaters or other characters. Show Ginny and Harry talking to the diary -- you could use that to provide insight into their thoughts while making diary Tom Riddle both sympathetic and manipulative; done right that can hint at what Tom is actually like (for the reveal for people who don't know the story) without making it obvious.
There's plenty you can do to bring the text to life and to show what is narrated in the story. That does mean writing additional scenes and not just lifting the text one-to-one, but this is a different story-telling medium.
But But But.....Peeves dropping/breaking the cabinet wasn't mentioned for "episode 3"! SUCH a huge moment and can potentially tie in the showing of the cabinet from "episode 2" how they are a twin pair!!
We absolutely need Peeves in this new series
looking forward to you doing this for the rest of the books in the series
Heres how I would pace the show. It's been a while scince I have read the book or seen the movie so some things i may have forgotten or mixed up the order.
201. Meetings Dobby- Escaping
40 min
202. The Burrow-Arriving at Hogwarts
55 min
203. First Week- Deathday Party
50 min
204. dueling club-Quitich Match
50 min
205. PolyJuice - Harry getting the Diary
50 min
206. Diary Flashback-Hermione being Petrofiried
55 min
207. Airagog- going to the chamber
45 min
208. The Chamber of Secrets-End
1 hr
Please keep this series going!
Loved this season idea. Would be nice to have Harry asking Dumbledore what the diary is exactly and Dumbledore answering like he does in the book but adding that he’ll have a closer look at it.
The Handmaids Tale was one book that generated 5 (6 in 2025) seasons that averaged 12 hour long episodes per season. You lot are thinking to linear storytelling. This will NOT be another retread. They will explore the entire of the world and characters, that didn’t get much attention in the films or books for that matter. This series will be a true ensemble. We will care more about the entire cast than before.
I still think they not only can but will have to just stack up backstory in the first two books.
They won’t really have time in later seasons to focus on the eccentricities of things like the Burrow and Diagon Alley. In DH they will have to just do stuff Bill and Fleur’s wedding and Gringotts without wasting time on character and scene building.
This season would also be a good opportunity to go ahead and dig into stuff like Hagrid’s backstory, and maybe even introducing some Voldy backstory.
Loving these videos! Keep it up!!!
A great way for the TV show to develop and differentiate itself more from the movies, would be to flesh out things that are not strictly in the books/written out on a page but things that we KNOW happen in the timeframe of a specific book, just little stories and bits that maybe are written out on in an article on what has formerly been pottermore n stuff. Giving the world we have in the books more space to breathe and exist outside of Harrys narrative and give maybe some cool moments to other important characters.
0:10 why into 8 or more hours? why not have season 1 and 2 just be shorter in the amount of episodes and the longer the books / the more content there is the more episodes you produce?
Good point
I would like to see Arthur going on the raids, and seeing how he and Molly are handling all their kids being out of the house. I want to see what the Malfoys are up to. And Lucius getting the other governors to to remove Dumbledore could be in an episode. Hope they give us time to spend with the other character that aren't at Hogwarts. They need to flesh out the world. I do like the idea of telling the story with flashbacks incorporated.
I could see them doing 6 episodes for 1-3 or maybe 1-2 and 8 episodes for 3 and then 10 for the rest
Episodes first season could be shorter in length. 30 min. Fitting more with the more children books of the first ones and more fun less serious and dark.
As things get more mature and dark, increase episode length and episode count. First 3 seasons will feel more like Percy Jackson Tv Show. Later seasons more like Game of Thrones
@@patricio95totally agree that number of episodes AND episode length can change as needed. The last thing we need is filler content. Writers are so bad these days, we can’t let them have room to play with
Having Mr Malfoy put the diary in Ginny's cauldron at the end of philosophers stone would make more sense since. Considering that Mr Weasley's raids had been going on all summer. He would want to get rid of the most dangerous thing first.
Not really, Arthur raids don't start happening until mid-way through the summer. I want the diary to be slipped in with Ginny's pre-owned books after her Dad and Draco's dad have a fight. That's was something that got left out in the movie.
I also want them to foreshadow the deathly hallows and the horcruxes (as you said) in some ways (well pretty obvious for the horcruxes with the diary but I don’t really know how for the DH), and why not already (slightly) introducing Slughorn in the flashback of the diary?
As cool as the Slughorn cameo would be, I think getting an actor to sign on for a flashback in season 2, with the expectation that they'll keep their schedule free to shoot season 6 years later, might be a big ask
Same as season/book 1 I wrote this on your overall seasons video before this one, but again I like how much we were on the same page generally. I think the key thing to remember is that the Harry Potter books are mysteries, yes they’re in a magical world but it’s still a mystery story at the core so having petrified victims in episodes 3-6 (Norris, Colin, Justin/Nick, Hermionie) and 7 ending with Ginny’s message of being taken into the chamber is a great way to pace it out. At the start of episode 3 maybe Hermionie could mention to a first year like Colin there’s so much history to the castle and talk about the Forrest, the lake etc and mention the chamber then as part of a list but it’s just a myth according to Hogwarts a history, then the episode ends with the chamber being opened
Chamber of secrets roughly plotted out
1. Harry’s birthday, Dobby, Ron and the twins rescue Harry, end with arriving at the Burrow
2. Burrow, Knockturn/Diagon Alley, flying the car to Hogwarts, Whomping Willow
3. Lockhart class (Pixies), Quidditch/slugs, detention with Lockhart
4. Deathday party, Mrs Norris petrified, Quidditch/Dobby/Colin petrified
5. Duelling Club, Justin/Nick petrified, Polyjuice Potion, Harry finds the diary
6. Diary flashback, losing the diary, Hermionie petrified
7. Hagrid’s arrest/Dumbledore suspended, meeting with Aragog, Ginny is taken into the Chamber
8. Lockhart’s memory charm, Riddle in the Chamber, Basilisk fight, destroy the diary, free Dobby
I think 8 episodes of roughly 30-40 minutes each gives 4-5 hours which is plenty for Chamber
That's dandy but the gang doesn't even know that the chamber exists at all until it's opened and they stumble across Mrs. Norris and the writing on the wall. At which point Hermione then asks McGonagall about it during their next Transfiguration class.
So,episode 6, Hermione starts in hospital as a cat and ends the episode in there as a statue? 😂 not a fun day
That Hospital Wing set is gonna get a lot of use in season 2 I tell you
Has there been any confirmation on being a hard 8 episodes? HBO and other tv studios have in the past had shorter seasons in some tv shows. I wouldn't be surprised if PS and CS are somewhat shorterned episode counts in the early season. Unless there's filler episodes that create backstory on characters it is just hard to see how they can take the early books and have them in 8 or more episodes. Especially if these episodes are nearly an hour in length.
I think the finales of the first few seasons definitley need to have a setup for the next book, like maybe at the end of PS season you see a tease with the chamber of secret slowly opening for an example, and maybe the end of book 3 you see the village where the Riddles were from
I am definitley looking forward to books 4, 5 and 6. Tons of content was cut in the movies so those have plenty of book materials to finally get live action justice.
This series of videos that you are doing is amazing please you have to make more parts
Okay we live in an era where TV does not need to have 8 episodes per season. For these first few seasons the general population will actually understand shorter seasons if they're good (still doubting why they adapted it). Some of the best shows have three to four HOUR seasons so don't give them ideas for drawing out the story. All we need is a few shorter seasons to get to the good stuff.
they better show how big of a crush GINNY had in HARRY n how she made him a valentine card
Could you do this with every book & season, I love these kinds of videos
I like the idea of Vernon waking up and looking in Harry's room just as the Twins are carrying Harry's trunk to the window. There's a brief pause as Vernon takes in the scene, his mind lost in a haze as he tries to rationalize what he's seeing. The Twins then say in unison, " You're dreaming, mate." Vernon nods knowingly, smiles to himself, and waddles off. The Twins chuckle silently as they load the trunk when Vernon's roaring startles them and panic finally sets in.
Introducing screaming dwars should be seen too, in movie we only see them when Sproud show them. There are moments where easly can at the clifhanger: Harry closing the door and be bored in his room, then in next episode you can start with Dobby. After there discover the 9-3/4 wall don't work, after the car trow them out and drives a way. 5th and 3th season i looking forward the moost, because the novels are my favorite. This time i whant Bus also seen in the 5th season. I personaly don't mind if Julian Glover return as the voice of Aragog.
What also be inportent that show Young Tom Riddle from Chamber at the end of 5th season as in the book, for movie it was old Fienes.
I expect flashback episodes frequently during the course of the show
In this case the Ginny's possession/Tom Riddle reveal would happen at the end of the 6th episode, then the entire 7th episode would be dedicated to Riddle's time at Hogwarts and Ginny's acts while possessed
The tv series needs to add one crucial scene that the movie left out!
Valentines Day!
It will be so much fun, visually, but of more importance it is how Ginny discovers that Harry now has the diary!
The scene, like the one in the book, has to have all the "suspects" nearby to witness Harry's bag breaking and all the books falling out, including the diary.
I would also enjoy the idea of Percy as a suspect. This was neglected in the movie but all his secretive meetings with his girlfriend could lead the trio to wonder what he was up to.
They also need to include the scene of Ginny coming to confess everything to Ron and Harry, but being overheard by Percy who interrupts her, thinking she is going to tell about his girlfriend.
Great video, good job Brett
Please do one for every book/season!!!
We need the rest of the books!!
I have a question - What if they do episode one to five telling the story and keeping the mystery then episode six to ten filling in the blanks
So on episode 5 Harry would kill the basilisk but on episode 6 it would say *months earlier* then show Ginny's side for 2 episode and Dobby's and Lucius's
Would that make sense to you if they went about it like that ?
I really like this but maybe 6 episodes of story and 2 filling in the blanks
They could give us “behind the scenes” shots like Dobby’s life at Malfoy Manor and show us characters that appear later in the books like Narcissa. Things we didn’t see in the movie or read in the book but we know happened.
I love it! I hope we get to see Valentines 💌 too. Can’t wait for you to make PoA 😊
YES we NEED the fresh picled toad poem
Like if you want Brett to make an easter egg appearance in every series 👍
Hey @HBO are you seeing this?! Give the people what they want!
Good job Brett
Also Brett I could see you breaking this up into 2 videos per. You kinda did this before but comparing the show to the movie on what will be done different or what you want to be done better. If not a 2nd video maybe just more of a deeper dive. For example they did this in the show and I think they nailed it no changes necessary but how will they do it different to be as good or better, same as "o they didnt do this scene well in the movie" and they can make it better by xyz. You kinda do this when describing scenes but you could really describe it by film descriptions such as b roll, zoom ins, setting up the scene etc. Also, takes on casting and directing. Do we like the casting of the characters in the movie? no? how can we do it better? or if it was a good casting but maybe not great directions, ooooorrrr flawless movie characters.. how do we give that justice. I know we cant compare this to the movie as it should be its on entity but thats impossible to do ya know.
This sounds like a good plan for S2 👍
I would like to see them bring in new plots to the earlier books especially, maybe even things that foreshadow future plots in the later seasons. I don’t think it should be a chapter by chapter retelling. They need to build each episode as their own, rather than telling the full story as one but splitting it up into episodes. I actually think the earlier seasons will be 6 episodes long, rather than 8. But we’ll see!
one time i told this man id name my child xenophilius because he was saying it was a silly name on live
i WILL honour that
I remember that 🤣
I hope a TV series can fix a few of the problems the books had, such as not having any *good* Slytherin characters. Just having a few minor characters in the other houses who get fleshed out more would help balance things, but Slytherin is the only house that really didn't get any proper rep until the end, and that was only one professor.
One main issue with doing a TV series of Harry Potter is Harry is probably going to end up being the only character to appear in every episode. In fact if you look at all of the book and imagine break them down into episodes Ron and Hermione are more than likely doing to be absent from episode 1 from every season and even some other episodes as well considering they don’t have a lot to do in Goblet of Fire and Half-Blood Prince.
The books (and I hope) the TV series are about a trio as whole. The movies made it into "Harry and Hermione and their good friend Ron who they let rag along".
Am I the only one who hope that the rest of Harry's Qudditch Team along with Ron goes crazy when Draco says that Word to Hermione?
Can we have an extended sequence at the burrow including the de-gnoming 😆
Dobbys plot line would be cool like him at the malfoys manor
Idea: when ever a horcrux is destroyed, we see Harry start panting or feel pain as foreshadowing for him being a horcrux
Don’t know why but watching this I could not stop thinking about Anthony Starr as Gilderoy Lockhart. But it think the Only UK actors policy that JK had for the movies will also apply for this series
I think you might be looking at the series wrong and from a perspective of the books are great so they just have to follow along the story from each book but how many shows have ever done this especially in the last decade? Not really any of them, game of thrones maybe until they ran out of books 🤔 What im trying to say is they are obviously going to be adding a lot of things not in the books regardless if it’s books 1-3 or the bigger books there after. I’m pretty sure the “Last of Us” show runner is apart of or doing HP as well where they took 2 small characters who were a small part from there and gave them an entire episode just of them (granted it was an amazing episode) but obviously there will be a lot of new things that will be added but let’s just hope it’s good story, plot or character developing being added is all we can hope for as well as staying true to the books.
They should have done Marauders first, and then give us glimpses of the Marauders story on the main HP series. What was Lupin doing all these years, how Sirius blamed himself for Lily and James's death. What was Voldemort doing? What were the Death Eaters doing? Give us an introduction on the Order of the Phoenix so we already know who these people are when introduced along the seasons
Sorry but that would ruin the idea of Harry having 0 idea about his Dad beside what been said by Hagrid and others until the end of book 3
@@PrincessofEllabur Us seeing what the Marauders did before does not mean that Harry needs to know...
Maybe they should do like two three seasons because like you say the first one could be four episodes the second one could be five or something and so they could just fill up a number of seasons with episodes of varying lengths and varying value on the book side after all I would love to just have Harry Potter leave and then have something in the middle and then come back to start the next season or start the next episode.
I'll die on this hill: a TV series should be anime! And they can also make the l seasons as long or short as needed!
And to your point about thoughts - think Death Note! They could do internal dialouge similar to that!
And they can make them half hour episodes.... or 50 minute episodes if they really wanted.
Anime is the way to go! And it'll make it different than live action movies, get a variety of talent to join, and make it easier to "recast" if needed.
Besdies that, I do love your plot and episode ideas!
They are quite obviously going to have to write completely new scenes and plots for every season as none of the books are long enough to become a TV show and that even goes for order of the Phoenix. The issue we saw with the movies was too many people in the kitchen making decisions that would make the movies more accessible and digestible for the kid audience which is why we saw the complete degradation of the series with the OotP movie and how it became a Disney production version of Harry Potter. As the movies got deeper they were so scared by the younger audience they refused to allow the series to go deeper, darker and longer because OotP could of easily been a 3 hour movie which would also show how serious the series is getting
We don’t need to see this series, Brett has pictured it for us with this series 😅😊
When I first read this it was ruined by the basilisk on the front cover
Next 5 books please
Where did you get your top from!
so many of the time spent in describtions can go into world building parts.
I try braking it book 2 into epsides before watching this. Only difference i also try brake each epsideo into 4 act structure. I got very simpler episodes. I think this book has far better min stories for each epside compared to first. First season you have to just tie to plot points togather to filled out episode even if they don't make a fully story for each episoded. Hopfuly the writes are allowed to have the story dicted the lenght of the episode rather the lenght of epsides dictate story.
Only other feature i would add was to have a cold open for each episode. These scenes are the only not harry lead scense. For season 2 i would have each cold open flashback to founders and there charter development while foreshadowing what conflicts are coming in this episode.
For season 3 i would have cold open flash back to marauders and them becoming friends. Have them just using nicknames to keep plot twist for new views. Have actors being just 13 so when they return in later flash backs(book 5) you can use same actors just age
My god, are you kidding? Your version is so good!!!!!.... now i'm gonna be disappointed they're not doing it exactly that way!
The simplest solution to the simplicity of the plot is to draw on those moments that are reflective, let the emotional beats be given more weight. When the book describes something in length it should be given more than a few seconds of time.
World building is the most impactful aspect of this franchise.
For example the main subplot I want to see expanded upon more is seeing Harry exploring the possibility he was put into the wrong house, and giving the sense that it really could be Harry that is the heir of Slytherin.
Really have the tension rise so it makes it even more of a relief for the twins to make light of the entire situation.
Though potentially it could be even more interesting for the mystery to be revealed to the audience before the characters discover it, seeing how the diary slowly corrupted Ginny though also it could explain the reason why the Basilisk never actually kills is that Ginny is fighting being made to do all things so we see the beginnings of her fiery nature.
There’s also opportunity to more strongly suggest the diary as a horcrux rather than being more of a retrospective “oh yeah, the diary was this thing too” later on in the series. Not suggesting a full reveal, the expanding narrative should exist but feel more natural.
As I mentioned with Philosophers Stone, the world should feel fully established from the get go, new things can be introduced though we should see those things already existing, they are simply “introduced” to Harry as his understanding of the Wizarding World grows.
To be fair I think that both book and movie already did a pretty good job with the diary. When Dumbledore sees it he holds it up and just ponders it for a moment as some sort of realization begins to sink in. Like it's a more subtle and quiet moment sure but is that necessarily a bad thing?
@@TheKabuto90 There’s lots of small moments like that done incredibly well throughout the franchise.
Never been this early! Chamber of Secrets are my favorite after Prisoner of Azkaban
It’s well regarded as the weakest of them all, it has lots of setup with very little payoff.
We don’t find out the true nature of the diary until close to the end of the series, retrospective we can see how Voldemort was always going to return.
@ObsessiveGeek Might be so but I feel that The Chamber of Secrets is underrated and sometimes receives unnecessary hate. Could be biased from my side but I remember that after watching the first movie at the age of maybe 6? I was left feeling “where’s the magic?” not from the world itself but more from the main characters (golden trio). Later when I read the books I had the same feelings. The Chamber of Secrets then comes and we see duels and more spellcasting which for me fixed the feeling. Chamber of Secrets also has a more intriguing danger from my point of view, a huge snake that are a danger to others inside the castle, not just for the golden trio. McGonagall shows fear for the situation and the professors are talking about closing the school. This sets the bar for the basilisk and Voldemort and makes it a fascinating foe. 1st movie never gave the danger feeling as the golden trio were the ones poking around about the stone but the rest of the school went on like nothing. From the SuperCarlinBrothers “Dumbledor’s grand plan” they theorize that the obstacles in first movie Fluffy, Devil’s snare (movie)/potion riddle (book), catching the key and chess match was never anything dangerous as it was only a test for the golden trio. Catching key for Harry’s excellent broom work, devil’s snare/potion riddle for Hermione’s knowledge and the chess game for Ron’s talent. Final fight with Prof. Quirrel/Voldemort never gave a danger feeling either as Harry only had to touch him (even though it’s a very important information for later about Voldemort’s problem with Harry). But The Chamber of Secrets has students being petrified, Harry has to fight the basilisk and almost dies from the venom until Fawkes rescues him, which is to my previous point about danger. The Chamber of Secrets also sets the tone with the Weasley family, Lucius Malfoy, Dobby, let’s us get some background information about a founder (Salazar Slytherin, especially in the book by Prof. Binns), etc. For me it’s a great movie/book and can be very well done but they need to master the pacing of that season and maybe have lesser episodes and really shine the light on the key moments. Sorry for the long text and English is not my first language but I hope I got the point across.
@@Jägarn-swe I don’t hate on CoS, it has a lot going for it - just overall in comparison to the rest of the series I found it the weakest. My entry into Harry Potter was around the time the Philosophers Stone movie came out, however I initially considered it as “nonsense” and had no interest in it until a work colleague started talking about the books she was listening to (at this point they were audio cassettes) so I gave the audio version of Philosophers Stone a listen and I got hooked.
Eventually I bought all the novels that were available which was the first four even though I had listened to them all, I read through the novels too.
I have since then got all the novels and seen all the movies and have the digital versions of the audiobooks too. I’ve also been to the stage production of The Cursed Child, visited the WB Studio Tour in London and been on the Jacobite steam train in Scotland that goes across the Glenfinnan Viaduct (seen most notably in Chamber of Secrets when Harry and Ron are on the flying car trying to get to Hogwarts) as well as visiting other places that were the inspiration for various elements of the series.
I also had a profile on Pottermore (now known as Wizarding World) when it first launched, the website now isn’t nearly as fun as it was then. I used to also be fairly active on a fan website called The Leaky Cauldron (still going strong) and even have a replica of Harry’s wand so I don’t say this lightly when I say I’m a fan.
So please don’t take it badly that I say CoS is the weakest, the entire series is amazing and are rightly one of the most well known and loved throughout the world. So even the weakest part is far better than many other stories that try to copy Harry Potter. I can understand your attraction to that one as it was your entryway into the world.
I highly recommend you give the audiobooks a listen, for me that’s still the best way to experience the story. (UK version if possible)
@ObsessiveGeek No worries, I’m not taking it badly, I’m just trying to explain why it’s 2nd place for me personally. I’ve watched the movies, read the books in Swedish, listened to the audiobooks read by Stephen Fry (don’t know if I spell his name correctly), traveled to WB studios, created Pottermore account (now Wizarding World, I miss the potions class you could do in Pottermore), etc. so I’m up to speed.
For me I take everything into consideration, for example I find the Goblet of Fire book great with all the details but the movie really bad, so it ends up mid for me. CoS is a great movie and book in my opinion and there for I place it on a higher rank than other in the series. In the end it’s personal taste which was suggested in my original post.
@@Jägarn-swe I look at it from more of a critical angle.
How each story impacts upon the overall plot and like I say CoS has a lot of setup and very little payoff until much later on, so the TV series needs to be able to reframe how the story is presented to give it the impact it deserves.
Not with Dumbledore again！
The headmaster Tom Riddle saw was Armando Dippet！
could have less episodes in the first few books, 6 or so. 10 episodes for the bigger more complicated books. 8 episodes for others
Well just make first 3 seasons shorter in length by episode length and episode quantity.
Although it doesn’t have much focus, there is a small shot in the film where Hermione’s parents can be seen talking to Mr Weasley
This would be a great season and I really like your idea of giving certain episodes to one of the trio I think that would keep it very refreshing and allow the characters to be more flushed out and developed
You act like this will be difficult, but so much was left out that it really won’t be that hard
What will be hard is wrapping up books 6 & 7 in one season each
Book 5 as well.
@@94mp99 touché
I really hope that @HBO and JKR are watching these videos.
You forgot the dead cockerels.
I think it would be a MASSIVE wasted opportunity if we don't see more of what ginny went through as she was possessed. like her POV or something
He literally discovers multiple "murders" and fights a giant snake
i really think you should be employed to write the scripts...
i keep wanting to have a crack at it myself just for fun but i never do lol
Tbh book 2 is my least fav with book 5 as my fav (i havent read cursed child yet but thats prob my 2nd least fav for now)
a book = a season.
The writing on the wall is paint not blood book not movie facts
For the founder’s flashback I want it to be done in animation, similar to the tale of the 3 brothers scene in deathly hallows 1.
Ooooo that would be cool
I said it once I will say it again. I think the first 2 seasons will have 6 episodes while the rest 8
I do kind of feel that people will come back to watch just because it’s Harry Potter cliffhangers aren’t nearly as important.
That second episode is way too long . First episode should end with a shot of the borrow from above. Second episode should end with the barrier being sealed.
I actually think it will be fine if they make 7 eps of 30 mins each
I think they can keep the story concise but yet very detailed (cut out some unnecessary dialogue and all)
Good idea
I wish the harry potter tv series was with the same actors. Same age as the first movie. At least jk Rowling is in charge so she has a lot of say.
Dude youre seriously sucking the fun out of it.
So what if they dont get to hogwarts until episode 3 or 4?
It would be cool to have an entire episode of the dursleys, ending with hagrids arrival.
A second episode at the leaky cauldron and diagon alley would be amazing for world building and really showing the wonder of the wizarding world for the first time.
Episode 3 would be a great time to head to hogwarts.
Your making me really excited for this Harry Potter series with these videos!!!
Last episode should end also with Harry freeing Dobby... end it on a high note because that's gonna be the last time the series will be able to do that 😅
Also I wouldn't mind some extra scenes with other classmates... getting to know Dean and Thomas and some of the other Hogwartsstudents a bit more
Prisoner ends in a mostly positive way too, obviously wormtail has escaped and the looming threat of Voldemort draws nearer though we still have an overall sense of everything potentially turning out good in the end thanks to Sirius.
There’s not any chance to make Goblit of Fire have any positive conclusion, though it can have more of a “we won’t let this beat us” vibe.
The series does get progressively darker though the films went a bit too hard on that, it’s mostly when the Wizard War is at its height things should feel the most hopeless.
@@ObsessiveGeek poa is just so sad... maybe it ends on a somewhat good/positieve note. Sirius has escaped, and we know he's innocent. But the trutje Harry has learned about his parents andctheir friends... is just incredibly sad and heartbreaking. It's like Harry says (at least in the movies); none of it made any difference....
@@jan10e5 Dumbledore tells him though there’s always purpose even in sacrifice, fighting oppression is never “meaningless”.
Dean and Thomas 😂
@@anonymousperson8475 haha lol I ofcourse meant Seamus
7:09 just want to point out that in your version of the Philosopher's Stone in the end credits, Lucius slips the diary into Ginnys bag on platform 9 and ¾
I did but I wasn't sure how many people who would watch this would've also watched that video, so I decided to ignore it/provide an alternative.
Ok
I just hope they stick to the books. Don't add unnecessary real life problems. Don't add any sexual orientations that are not in the book Stick to the book & it'll be great
This is a weird comment. Why would you think they'd add different sexual orientations?
First, as i mentioned previously on ur channel, they may have only 7 or even 6 episodes, it all depends on the time filmed overall.
Then number 2, i can definitely see them adding some stuff, as they already did for the og films, they didn't have an issue there, so prolly won't have it here. and if some ppl complain, they may just call it enrichment of the magical world.
And then thirdly, what i would really want for the series is consistency. We saw hogwarts and world building details evolve so much throughout og films, i would hate it to ruin the tvs. Like i dont want pensieve or throwback sequences to jump back n forth from black n white, technicolour and green-ish filled screen of HB prince
No offence, but you pulled the movie blunder. You forgot _how_ Ginny knew to ransack Harry's room and the most hilarious Valentine's at Hogwarts ever.
_His eyes were as green as a fresh-pickled toad..._
Come on, don't rob us of this.😂😂😂😂
Plus, I always thought it dumb in the movies how Harry found the diary, used it once and then there's Neville rushing at Harry telling about the ransacked room.
The show does not have to be 6-8-10 episodes, just make enough to make it include everything and make it exciting. It is totaly fine if the first 3 seasons is 3-5 episodes
Stop zooming in and out. It's jarring and way over done. I hate it.