Great job, Bill! Yes, the Van and Cila shutter lock were intended to be the hardest ones (collectively) to pick on that side. Attention viewers: Bill thinking out loud is a great way for us to understand his thought process for figuring out how to tension the Van lock. Try not to be dismayed by unusual locks, keep on brainstorming ideas, and have lots of fun while doing it! Remember that special eureka moment the first time you ever picked open a lock and realize that you can do it again for other locks. Always encourage each other and especially encourage new pickers. The Dude abides.
I'm gonna be honest, Dude. When I saw this series start I wasn't interested because I thought it was a series of challenge locks which I don't really have too much interest - day to day locks (even rare ones) are more interesting as they're the ones being used around. When I finally gave up and started watching I was pleasantly surprised to find normal locks on the box. This box and lockpicking series is basically a huge guide on the multitude of lock types that we have floating around and it's always a pleasure to see new things popping up! Thanks to you and Bill for this!
I'm surprised the "Van Lock" corporation Plug locks don't have more pins?!? They can seriously add in a 8th pin to complete the circle, then add in another 8 pins on the inner circle off set in between the existing pins. Then if they really wanted to be evil, add in another 16x pins on the outside like a standard tubular lock. With 10 levels of bitting per pin, imagine 10^32 combinations. Even if you had a computerized mechanical picker, that would just be TEDIOUS AS HELL =D
CA glue is very strong, but brittle. I'd imagine it would have given good feedback. Also, if he was already cleaning it up, CA glue cleans up with acetone, which I wouldn't imagine would damage the lock at all.
@Jamie Fletcher - I use CA glue for wood turning where the bowl blank is held onto a glue block on a faceplate. It usually requires a chisel and solid hammer strike to his the shear point. Bill would likely need a glove it he were applying that much force.
VHB tape usually requires 24 hours to cure and achieve full-strength. There's also variations on the tape for what 3M refers to as high-energy and low-energy surfaces. I forget which materials count as one or the other.
This comment may get buried, and it may be too hard on Bill, but I hope Bill at least makes a playlist of this whole treasure chest lock series. It would be even nicer if he compiled the whole series into one video, as they really do roll from one video to the next easily. I have really been enjoying the series, and I really do appreciate hearing Bill's brain storming and thinking process while he tries each lock.
VHB (very high bond) tape is designed to install skyscraper windows, so it is meant to stay stretchy. And it takes 24+ hours to develop a full bond, IIRC. I'd also vote for crazy glue here.
An excellent, descriptive, tutorial. Many other pickers seem to get opens without telling us, in any great detail, how they did it and how they shaped the home-brew tools required. First-class picking...
Absolutely LOVE the more UNUSUAL locks. Will be searching YT for more on this one. I'm glad the Dude included this one, and good job Bill on ... defeating it.
Reminds me of the time I picked an SFIC core to control and thought I was in a wicked false set. Took an extra five minutes before the core fell out in my lap.
Wow! Extremely impressed Bill. I really like the transitions of how you came to put attention on the lock. I also like the fact that you picked it but you made mistakes at the same time. We're all human. That was a stinker of a lock. Nice job.
SUPER GLUE!! That spoon was a good idea but try super gluing it to the lock. a quick touch with a torch will break the glue when you are done. I got this idea the first time you picked a lock like this because I had just watched a clickspring video and he used a super glue arbor where he glued a thin piece of brass to his lathe and cut it with tools. So I'm thinking its plenty strong to tension a lock.
Great video as always. I'd like to thank you and the Dude for getting my wife involved in lock picking. This particular Series has gotten her attention and she avidly awaits the next one. As do I! Thanks again.
Way to stick with it Bill, even after you had it picked! :-) we've all been there before, and we certainly appreciate you taking us along for the occasional Bosnian bill "whoops" moments!
My thought was to use the hole that goes deepest to tension it to set as many pins as you can, then change the tension to some other hole when necessary.
Great work and love the thought process on this. Your use of the Y Wrench is similar to how I picked my VAN lock, I just used 2 of the Southord ones that were cut down and moved tension between the 2 of them :-)
What a difficult lock to pick, well the issue is tensioning. Beat that and you are home straight (as Bill demonstrated). We are all so curious to know what's in the box: Guess- Lock Picking Lebowski's false teeth will jump out and bite Bill on his tush.
I've really been enjoying this series of videos. I just ordered yesterday the Sparrows Tuxedo set for my first real set of picks. Now maybe I can quit making them out of feeler gauges.
Bill, it's pretty logical that the "pin" in the 6 o'clock position doesn't do anything. Since before you start picking, there is no pin there, so it's just 2 metal discs rotating over one another.
I've seen someone do one of these in the field by soldering herself a lever on the brass. Was another piece of brass and all the heat needed was pulled from a small torch.
Love that an expert lije yo can be fooled too. I had a lock once I had opened and didn't realize it because the shackle wouldn't pop. Back when I was still taking a locksmith course. Over 17 years ago lol. I live watching your videos. Keep up the good work
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Awesome, however you forgot to replace the "audiojungle" in the intro music:)
Sweet, nice pick. Really enjoying seeing you pick the locks in sequence on the box. The anticipation of how much air is inside the box is mounting. #DudeLockPickingLebowski, thank you for giving #Bill some fun locks to work on.
it makes me think "The Dude" meant that its equal on each side, meaning it has easy, medium and hard type locks of equivalent difficulty on each side. Not sure, but that's just my opinion.
Tip: 1. Take some blue tape 2. Tape both of the surfaces you want to stick together 3. Super glue the tape (object 1) to the tape (object 2) This is a great no-mess way of temporarily sticking 2 surfaces together.
Techno_Zed But does the blue tape stick well enough to the two surfaces? Because otherwise you have the same problem Bill had with the specific type of red tape he tried.
Focus you f.....ohwait, wrong channel. 3M do some better DSTs than that one....try the thin film types designed for the newsprint industry. That stuff will not move under shear as much as these thicker substrates.
Bill and LPLon a job. Bill"right light tension.. "LPL" Move over bill we need STRONG TENSION! "BILL" LIGHT! LPL"STRONG! 4 HOURS AND THEY ARE STILL ARGUING... 😂
Sad that a VAN Lock brings back memories of the early 1980. I loaded vending machines and those locks were on all the cigarette machines. As I left the biz a new lock was replacing them called MEDECO but only on the machines with Fed Tax money inside. I was yelling at the screen when you picked it a did not pull the hard enough. Thanks for reminding me of lost youth...as if it matters.
interesting video, I have never encountered such a lock. Your intros are great and renewed often, maybe you should suggest to Scotty Kilmer to do the same, haha. May I ask what software you use to make these animations?
True story i once picked a commando lock thought it got a false set wouldnt do anything set it down in frustra realized it was already picked and turned it all the way to open i was like how did that happen
I recently got one of those lock cores. it appears it is a KIK type but same pins. I plan to drill two holes in a piece of wiper blade insert and weld two hypodermic needles spaced so they would fit inside two adjacent pin holes then pick those two pins through the needles with a smaller needle that would fit Inside my tensioner holes. my first attempt will be superglue spoon shaped item just like you did with the VHB tape but got to do it so you don't get glue in the pins. i may try transfer tape instead of the glue using your idea. VHB transfer tape has no foam so its a more positive adhesion. I do like your tension wrench tho.
Bosnianbill Haha! Thought so. I’ve been in it going on 5 years now. Check out my comical review on the new DJI FPV system. Some people find it pretty funny 😁
Bosnianbill FatShark should have something coming out before the end of the summer and TBS has been hinting about working on something. Both will use your existing goggles. I’m holding off too 👍🏻
@@FunkFPV I've been shedding the traditional FPV stuff and moving towards DJI. I finally got fed up with the constant component failures (ESCs, motors, FCs, etc), all the build time, as well as the constant incompatibilities between components. I've been in FPV for over 5 years and had 14 rigs, everything from 250s, to 330s, to 400s and 450s and am now down to TWO quads. I love the reliability, durability, and flight stability of the Spark and the Mavic 2 Pro and cannot imagine flying one of of the "old" quads now. I know, I know.... I went over to the DJI "dark side", but my life is SO much easier and stress free now...😀
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Great job, Bill! Yes, the Van and Cila shutter lock were intended to be the hardest ones (collectively) to pick on that side. Attention viewers: Bill thinking out loud is a great way for us to understand his thought process for figuring out how to tension the Van lock. Try not to be dismayed by unusual locks, keep on brainstorming ideas, and have lots of fun while doing it! Remember that special eureka moment the first time you ever picked open a lock and realize that you can do it again for other locks. Always encourage each other and especially encourage new pickers. The Dude abides.
I'm gonna be honest, Dude. When I saw this series start I wasn't interested because I thought it was a series of challenge locks which I don't really have too much interest - day to day locks (even rare ones) are more interesting as they're the ones being used around. When I finally gave up and started watching I was pleasantly surprised to find normal locks on the box. This box and lockpicking series is basically a huge guide on the multitude of lock types that we have floating around and it's always a pleasure to see new things popping up! Thanks to you and Bill for this!
@@pwilla Bill no longer accepts challenge locks. Glad you're enjoying this series. I'm on the edge of my seat right along with everyone else!
I'm surprised the "Van Lock" corporation Plug locks don't have more pins?!? They can seriously add in a 8th pin to complete the circle, then add in another 8 pins on the inner circle off set in between the existing pins. Then if they really wanted to be evil, add in another 16x pins on the outside like a standard tubular lock. With 10 levels of bitting per pin, imagine 10^32 combinations. Even if you had a computerized mechanical picker, that would just be TEDIOUS AS HELL =D
Why is the inner core of the Plug Lock made out of Brass? Why isn't it Hardened Steel with Nitro Carburization?
This challenge box is interesting, so many unusual locks to pick open
Just my guess. The box contains the return address and enough cash to cover the shipping costs. :P
Probably could have super glued that feeler gauge on and lightly heated to remove.
CA glue is very strong, but brittle. I'd imagine it would have given good feedback. Also, if he was already cleaning it up, CA glue cleans up with acetone, which I wouldn't imagine would damage the lock at all.
That was my thought exactly.
Yeah I was thinking super glue or 1 drop of hot glue, too.
@@AaronDay Yeah, I doubt acetone would ahve done anything to the lock. Very good idea, both of you.
@Jamie Fletcher - I use CA glue for wood turning where the bowl blank is held onto a glue block on a faceplate. It usually requires a chisel and solid hammer strike to his the shear point. Bill would likely need a glove it he were applying that much force.
VHB tape usually requires 24 hours to cure and achieve full-strength. There's also variations on the tape for what 3M refers to as high-energy and low-energy surfaces. I forget which materials count as one or the other.
This comment may get buried, and it may be too hard on Bill, but I hope Bill at least makes a playlist of this whole treasure chest lock series. It would be even nicer if he compiled the whole series into one video, as they really do roll from one video to the next easily. I have really been enjoying the series, and I really do appreciate hearing Bill's brain storming and thinking process while he tries each lock.
I used a bent fork to pick one of these, the tines doubled as picks in two of the pins.
Good demonstration, allowing us mere mortals to follow the process through to a hard fought open.👍
A C-clip handling tool would be an obvious alternative tensioner with a nicer handle.
If you have your camera focus on the lock, then put it into manual focus, it will stay focused on the lock and not keep focusing on your thumb.
VHB (very high bond) tape is designed to install skyscraper windows, so it is meant to stay stretchy. And it takes 24+ hours to develop a full bond, IIRC. I'd also vote for crazy glue here.
Thanks Bill. Nearly had a heart attack when those drums suddenly kicked in.
Perhaps using the feeler Gage to tension the lock by pushing into the side of one of the holes, would allow you to pick it.
Is it any wonder Bill's hands are always cut up?
Pets, power tools, cactus farming, cutting vegetables... the possibilities are nearly endless.
Its called VHB tape, strongest tape there is. Its used for holding thousand pound glass panels on the sides of skyscrapers
An excellent, descriptive, tutorial. Many other pickers seem to get opens without telling us, in any great detail, how they did it and how they shaped the home-brew tools required. First-class picking...
BINGO.
Bill knows how to pick locks and help others learn the art of picking locks
They should rate lock security based on Bills Pick Time.
The thing, perhaps chocolate, inside this box might very well expire and deform before we even know what it was 😅
Keep up Bill, getting close 👍
Absolutely LOVE the more UNUSUAL locks. Will be searching YT for more on this one. I'm glad the Dude included this one, and good job Bill on ... defeating it.
YOU GO up and beyond to find and make a tensioner for anything ,well done! i must say cool ,thanks for the ideas ,always a good video,cheers Bill
Reminds me of the time I picked an SFIC core to control and thought I was in a wicked false set. Took an extra five minutes before the core fell out in my lap.
A really cool lock. I am lucky to have one as we don't get them down here. Lovely picking and clever tools. 👍🏻😎
Wow!
Extremely impressed Bill. I really like the transitions of how you came to put attention on the lock. I also like the fact that you picked it but you made mistakes at the same time. We're all human. That was a stinker of a lock. Nice job.
Superglue works great and you just use a slight amount of heat on the spoon to break down the bond to remove the glue
Bill, I’m really enjoying your journey along the treasure chest. Props to you and the Dude.
SUPER GLUE!! That spoon was a good idea but try super gluing it to the lock. a quick touch with a torch will break the glue when you are done. I got this idea the first time you picked a lock like this because I had just watched a clickspring video and he used a super glue arbor where he glued a thin piece of brass to his lathe and cut it with tools. So I'm thinking its plenty strong to tension a lock.
Great video as always. I'd like to thank you and the Dude for getting my wife involved in lock picking. This particular Series has gotten her attention and she avidly awaits the next one. As do I! Thanks again.
That's how my day went, today. It's nice to know I have company. May tomorrow will be a better day.
Way to stick with it Bill, even after you had it picked! :-) we've all been there before, and we certainly appreciate you taking us along for the occasional Bosnian bill "whoops" moments!
I remember you being unsure of the next lock couple of vids back. lockpickinglayer did a vid on it (#883)
My thought was to use the hole that goes deepest to tension it to set as many pins as you can, then change the tension to some other hole when necessary.
Great work and love the thought process on this. Your use of the Y Wrench is similar to how I picked my VAN lock, I just used 2 of the Southord ones that were cut down and moved tension between the 2 of them :-)
What a difficult lock to pick, well the issue is tensioning. Beat that and you are home straight (as Bill demonstrated).
We are all so curious to know what's in the box:
Guess- Lock Picking Lebowski's false teeth will jump out and bite Bill on his tush.
I've really been enjoying this series of videos. I just ordered yesterday the Sparrows Tuxedo set for my first real set of picks. Now maybe I can quit making them out of feeler gauges.
Bill, it's pretty logical that the "pin" in the 6 o'clock position doesn't do anything. Since before you start picking, there is no pin there, so it's just 2 metal discs rotating over one another.
I didn't know you build drones.. awesome, i use that that tape in my builds too
You can set the pins, out half a rotation to hold them in place then use a tubular lock pick to mold the depths and you have a key.
Interesting approach. I was wondering if the tape would hold under a shear load. Cool lock; like your final approach.
I swore I heard the 👮🏻 coming for you while you were picking that lock 😂
CRAZY lock... but I like your tenacity ....
The accidental added security feature was fun! Thanks Bill.
That is a good padlock to use. Would foil most if any pick attacks.
Great series of videos-cheers- it is nice to see bill sometimes make mistakes like the rest of us all!!!
I am loving your videos. I have really learned a great deal and brought up my pickin' skills over the last month. Thanks!
I've seen someone do one of these in the field by soldering herself a lever on the brass. Was another piece of brass and all the heat needed was pulled from a small torch.
That music scared the crap out of me. Figured the razor blade slipped out and went over your finger for some reason.
Love that an expert lije yo can be fooled too. I had a lock once I had opened and didn't realize it because the shackle wouldn't pop. Back when I was still taking a locksmith course. Over 17 years ago lol. I live watching your videos. Keep up the good work
Awesome, however you forgot to replace the "audiojungle" in the intro music:)
Sweet, nice pick. Really enjoying seeing you pick the locks in sequence on the box. The anticipation of how much air is inside the box is mounting.
#DudeLockPickingLebowski, thank you for giving #Bill some fun locks to work on.
That was a lot of work. Good job Bill.
I don't think I've ever seen you struggle this much on a single lock 🤣🤣
Such an awesome lock, very difficult to get hold of, well in the UK anyway. Great video Bill.👍
Nice to see something that the average delinquent with a pick set will be totally stumped by!
it makes me think "The Dude" meant that its equal on each side, meaning it has easy, medium and hard type locks of equivalent difficulty on each side. Not sure, but that's just my opinion.
What about superglue? It comes off with a little acetone.
I'm curious to see how that camel lock works and it's origin. Great work like usual.
you are picking a lock, but you don't want to cheat, Dude (you got that? LOL), you are awesome.
Umm yes just what I like to see applying glue to a lock... WHat can ever go wrong :)
Tip:
1. Take some blue tape
2. Tape both of the surfaces you want to stick together
3. Super glue the tape (object 1) to the tape (object 2)
This is a great no-mess way of temporarily sticking 2 surfaces together.
Techno_Zed But does the blue tape stick well enough to the two surfaces? Because otherwise you have the same problem Bill had with the specific type of red tape he tried.
Focus you f.....ohwait, wrong channel. 3M do some better DSTs than that one....try the thin film types designed for the newsprint industry. That stuff will not move under shear as much as these thicker substrates.
ave squad checking in!
Keep your Richard in a bad habit!
Keep your Pick on the Pin
@@Breakfast_and_Bullets keep your lock in a vise
2:44 Use sharp tools AWAY from fingers, Bill.
2:40 cut towards your chum not your thumb!
i had a friend that was in the Bosnian campaigns remember him telling stories about guarding the mass graves in an m1a1
Very clever, this is why even at age 112 we still come back entertainment :)
Haha 5:28 is gold.
Maybe if I check back in a year or so i can watch all these locks get picked
Instead of tape you could’ve just used a drop of super glue, holds tension an pops off easy when your done
That tape doesnt fully set up for like 3 days, if its the same 3m tape I was researching at work today.
Bill and LPLon a job. Bill"right light tension.. "LPL" Move over bill we need STRONG TENSION! "BILL" LIGHT! LPL"STRONG! 4 HOURS AND THEY ARE STILL ARGUING... 😂
A tricky lock, no doubt. Way to hang tough.
Great job. What a difficult lock.
This series is awesome Bill! Thanks for doing it
It is VHB tape. Glaziers use it a lot.
It stands for “Very high bond”
I really love those van lock 🙌🏼
Olivier Cauffopé first
MY KEYS AUTOMOTIVE ?
Unusual locks are interesting
Popsicle Phil's padlock pandorium
Security by crustyness... works all the time! xD
I don't think I could put that much time into a lock unless it became one of those that gets to ya then it feels like a mission to get it open
Sad that a VAN Lock brings back memories of the early 1980. I loaded vending machines and those locks were on all the cigarette machines. As I left the biz a new lock was replacing them called MEDECO but only on the machines with Fed Tax money inside. I was yelling at the screen when you picked it a did not pull the hard enough. Thanks for reminding me of lost youth...as if it matters.
Snap ring pliers may work
But you also need to pick pins from the same holes you tension from
Thanks for another great video, Bill! DFTBA, have a great day. :)
interesting video, I have never encountered such a lock. Your intros are great and renewed often, maybe you should suggest to Scotty Kilmer to do the same, haha. May I ask what software you use to make these animations?
I think the intros are made by the viewers and given to him.
I think I saw him comment one time that he has his webmaster put the intro in for him
Nice...we all have those moments
Reminds me of a certain BEST 91B
I’d lock my van with it.
That tape can’t hold up under axial pressure should have used super glue
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Hope you are wearing eye protection, Incase that brittle razor blade were to snap sending a shard flying.
hope to add Vietnamese subtitles
nice open... when you found it :)
True story i once picked a commando lock thought it got a false set wouldnt do anything set it down in frustra realized it was already picked and turned it all the way to open i was like how did that happen
Super glue it. Use the razor then to scrape off glue.
Thanks for doing more!!!!! MORE!!1
Love watching your vids. Nice one Bill
And the 'Dude' still abides.
I recently got one of those lock cores. it appears it is a KIK type but same pins. I plan to drill two holes in a piece of wiper blade insert and weld two hypodermic needles spaced so they would fit inside two adjacent pin holes then pick those two pins through the needles with a smaller needle that would fit Inside my tensioner holes. my first attempt will be superglue spoon shaped item just like you did with the VHB tape but got to do it so you don't get glue in the pins. i may try transfer tape instead of the glue using your idea. VHB transfer tape has no foam so its a more positive adhesion. I do like your tension wrench tho.
Hey Bill, You fly FPV?
Sure do!
Bosnianbill Haha! Thought so. I’ve been in it going on 5 years now. Check out my comical review on the new DJI FPV system. Some people find it pretty funny 😁
@@FunkFPV VERY funny! Also, very accurate! I've been waiting (just like thousands of others) very patiently & nice to see you come up with this.
Bosnianbill FatShark should have something coming out before the end of the summer and TBS has been hinting about working on something. Both will use your existing goggles. I’m holding off too 👍🏻
@@FunkFPV I've been shedding the traditional FPV stuff and moving towards DJI. I finally got fed up with the constant component failures (ESCs, motors, FCs, etc), all the build time, as well as the constant incompatibilities between components. I've been in FPV for over 5 years and had 14 rigs, everything from 250s, to 330s, to 400s and 450s and am now down to TWO quads. I love the reliability, durability, and flight stability of the Spark and the Mavic 2 Pro and cannot imagine flying one of of the "old" quads now. I know, I know.... I went over to the DJI "dark side", but my life is SO much easier and stress free now...😀
is it possible it was even open on the first turn but you didnt notice it?
Love the intro's bill.
Nice one as always sir bill
Build a lever Kronk
Wrong lever Kronk!
As I stated Monday, it only gets worse.
You have patience