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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 มี.ค. 2024
- We've had our first taste of CFMoto's new 450MT Adventure bike at the Philippines launch. Impressive bang for buck from the 190-ish kilo parallel twin.
Full review available on Mcnews.com.au
#cfmoto #mcnews #cfmoto450mt #adventuremotorcycle #adventurebike - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
I ordered mine between xmas and new years 2023. Went down to cfmoto to have a talk and they said there would not be any demos before first order confirmed and the only info he had was a printed sheet and specs. That was all they had from head office. I had a think ( I was already sure I would like one) and put down a deposit.
I'm south of the river in Perth W.A. The dealer already had at that stage 49 total pre-orders. There are 3 dealers in perth metro area and one in Gero ( about 500km north of Perth ). Four dealers is all I can find for Western Australia
So I was surprised only 300 odd total pre-orders for Australia .
I been waiting for a decent Aussie or english speaking review or thoughts on this bike.
There has been too many pre-views which mean bugger all.
Thanks for getting this up.
i orderd mine more than 4 months ago now , couple of weeks left now till delivery .I orderd mine as you see it here , couldent be happier
As soon as you mentioned that "some people will complain about the weight of this bike, they want an enduro or a rally bike" you earned my sub, i am tired of people saying this bike is too heavy or underpowered, while at the same time, speaking highly of the RE Himalayan 450, or some other 650cc+ bikes that weigh up to 20 kilos more, the hypocrisy to scrutinize something that didn't really exist before at this price point is offensive, this bike weights the same as my Versys X300, with more power, way more torque, a gas tank as big, bigger tyres and rims, with better, beefier suspension. How can they complain when there is nothing like it at this price point?
I think people were expecting a unicorn. This will be a great horse.
Because Chinese bike bad duuuurrrrr. Oh, it's getting praise? Well it is heavy duuurrrr. 😑
It's funny since it's canceled now, but KTM was likely pressuring CF Moto not to make it too good because their 450cc twin.
Same weight? Versys 300 is 175kg wet, or about 20 kg lighter.
@@mikerichardson415 is it twin?
The cfmoto is 185 kgs , dry weight
Ordered mine on the last day for the pre-sale price, now to wait for it to roll in 👍🏻
Nice sharp review Wayne. It's a shame those who don't embrace a changing world will miss out on a fun bike. Funny part is they probably drive Kias and Hyundai's.
Nice preview man, thanks
Thanks info on this bike 👍
I quite like this bike, looks great off road and i would love to see some english videos of what it is like on the open road for touring with camping gear. And yes in Australia we often ride great distance to get to the off road😊.
Good combo in the garage with its big sister, 800 MT. One for long touring and this one for riding it into the mud.
If you already have touring bike, you better buy something lighter for the mud.
Your comment is giving me headache... 😂 .. Whyy??
It's over 400 lbs.... basically a Tenere 700 with half the horsepower
If you have only one bike, than MT 450 is great. Can do road touring, comuting and some offroad too.
My thoughts too!
Thank you for the balanced review. Yep, there's always someone complaining about the weight, talking about disappointment because it's not a unicorn. The problem is, an actual unicorn can't exist. If you want something good on the freeway, it's going to be a beast off-road, etc. The complainers just need to buy an Enduro or rally bike and then have their street bike to go with it. Seems to me the 450MT is 90% what the t7 is but with less power And maybe 60% of the cost. AND, is much easier to pick up when you go down. I didn't want to keep waiting for this here in the US, so I picked up a scrambler 400X to have some fun on. So maybe next spring :-) by then there should be lots of aftermarket support and kinks worked out.
AGREE 100%, I have a Versys x300 and it's weight has not been a big issue for me, specially because when i ride on road for long distances )which every adventure ish motorcycle should be able to do easily) the wind can often get crazy, if my bike was too light, i would have a much harder time riding on the road. For me, the weight is perfect because the bike can potentially out cruise the x300 and i wouldn't like to cruise at 120 km/h on a bike that's just 160kg, i'll leave that to the moto GP pilots.
Looks like a good option for the price, shame about the snatchy throttle, nothing a tune or different throttle tube can't try and solve I guess. Does it have android auto / carplay like other CFMOTO bikes?
low mudguard version everytime, looks so much better
Looks shmooks, some of us want to be able to ride mud without ripping the mud guard off ;-)
Nice, straight to the point review. Tnx. Btw - 85 kg, but how tall are you mate ?
Cheers - 181 cms
I was really hoping this CFMoto 450 MT would be lighter than my tuareg but at 195kg ish wet they are pretty close. Since you have ridden the tuareg and a T7, any comparisons between the 3? Have you figured out any reasons besides price to have the 450 MT instead?
If you have the Tuareg already - keep it. Its the best of the three by a fair margin. The MT feels like a lighter T7 with its weight not as high. But if you're wanting something lighter to do gnarlier things than the Tuareg, the MT is probably not the bike you're looking for. You're looking for a Enduro/Rally/trail bike...
great video. Ive seen a couple of reviews say 450 Him is probably more dirt focussed, than 450mt. Without riding back2back, what is this based on ? Is it purely the chunky, nostalic feel of the 450 Him? ..... from what I can see on paper, the 450mt has more power, better suspension adjustment, and less weight ... can you please explain. Thanks
Very hard to say without riding back to back as you say - and there cant be too many people have ridden both surely..?? But the other big thing going for the MT in my mind is that it's a twin cylinder. The Himi would have to be pretty great for me to get excited about a bike that will sound like a farm bike...
I remember my first big bike, a Honda Transalp 1993, 182 kilos dry, 50 HP, 17,5 liter fuel tank - and it had a real V-twin engine, not a poor mans V-twin…
V-twins have their advantages, but working on them is horrible compared to a P-twin. Have you ridden a modern P-twin with a 270deg crank? They are very nice.
@@krazed0451Have ridden both a T7 and the new Transalp 750. Great bikes and engines - but no V-twins.
And that was not my main point either - which was that I had a bike 30 years ago with approx the same specs, if not better…
@@KurtGAndersen Electronics and emissions are mostly to blame there Kurt. Big weight in both. Probably 10 kilos of it on the MT at a guess. And noticeably beefier and better suspension and brakes on modern bikes.
@@Vicko026 How much does one unit of emission weigh if I dare ask?
And do you think the brake disc of this bike weighs more than one my old Transalp? Both bikes have one in front and one rear….
@@KurtGAndersen I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic or not, but modern exhausts with big cat converters weigh a lot more than older exhausts. Replacing with a full system on some bikes can save as much as 10 kilo - not kidding. All due to emissions requirements. Likewise modern abs systems and associated sensors and wiring… people underestimate what wiring and sensors weigh.
Why would you choose this bike over the Honda NX500? That is the big question!
Better suspension, fully adjustable kyb, comes standard with 21 in front 18 in rear off road wheels and tires, maybe weight? The cfmoto is definitely tuned for someone who wants to go off road. The nx500 has street wheels and tires.
NX doesnt have a full size 21inch front unfortunately and is 25% more expensive in Oz... So there's that.
just slap a better tyre and you can go for very technical mountain route. the chinese has even tested this on tough technical mountain with thick forest and muddy uphill
they think they r pol
@@desertdrz7618I think himalayan 450 is a better comparison. Himi being more off road focused. This one being in the middle and nx500 being more road biased.
Esta es la moto que los japoneses se han negado a hacernos desde hace más de 30 años. He tenido motos trial, trail y maxitrail desde hace 45 años. La CFMoto MT 450, en mi opinión posee potencia suficiente para casi todo, buen equipamiento de serie, larga autonomía, capacidad de carga viajera, carenados austeros pero suficientes, actualizaciones de software vía app de móvil, ABS y DSC desconectables, tubeless, filtro de aire fácilmente accesible, buena ergonomía, manetas regulables, pantalla ajustable, tomas de energía, escape alto, capacidad de carga, subchasis desmontable, estriberas, cambio, y espejos retráctiles, suspensiones largas solventes y adecuadas para uso mixto, electrónica comedida, altura de asiento polivalente desde solo 80 a 87 centímetros, distancia libre al suelo, solo 2 o 3 centímetros menos que las más caras motos referencias del maxitrail y sobre el papel buenos materiales y acabados. A mí personalmente, por mi uso predominantemente asfáltico, me gustaría con opción a llantas de aleación, pero es casi perfecta. En mi opinión, esta CFMoto 450 MT es, ¡por fin!, como aquellas austeras y fiables Dominator, XTs, DRs, VStrom, KLEs, DRZs, Pegaso, Africa Twin, GS650s de los 80s-90s pero inyectada, modernizada, equipada, con gran autonomía, cómoda y bicilíndrica. (¿Unicornio?). No hay una sola moto en el mercado con esas características de serie. Que yo sepa, tampoco hay motos que, aun costando más de 20.000 euros, tras dotarlas de similares características que esta CFMoto MT, que no pesen algo vestidas, habitables y equipada 220-280 kilos.
Solo le falta ofrecer Quickshifter y color verde que me encanta para moto trail. 🙏😊 Incluso los japoneses, tendrían que tomar ejemplo en cuanto a diseño y equipamiento de serie. Habrá que esperar a ver su fiabilidad, intervalos de mantenimiento y precio. Estas nuevas motos chinas, tienen actualmente una relación calidad precio muchísimo mejor que las japonesas. Esta CFMoto 450 es lo que podía haber sido la ansiada y abortada KTM 490 Adventure presuntamente fabricada en India por Bajaj, que asoma la patita en otra ventanilla asiática del también socio colaborador de KTM CFMoto. Con la marca austriaca, probablemente, hubiese salido con algún caballo más y algún kilo de menos. Hay muchísima expectación en Iberoamérica, Asia y Europa sobre esta CFMoto 450 MT.
Creo que solo la KTM 390 Adventure, la Honda CB500X y la RE Himalayan II, están a la altura, aunque con distintos enfoques. No son motos endureras sino traileras asfálticas con algunas posibilidades camperas. Con algo de dinero se pueden camperizar, pero en mi opinión, siguen siendo motos muy pesadas para los estándares del off road duro. En general, no somos Pol Tarrés ni tenemos sus repuestos y asistencias. 😅 Trail duro o enduro ligero y poco más fuera de lo negro.
Aunque muy contento tras 20.000 kms con mi 390 Adv, la altura excesiva del asiento, a 85.5 centímetros del suelo, a veces se me hace incómoda e incluso peligrosa. Los chinos lo están haciendo muy bien en estas categorías, cubriendo nichos de mercado a precios razonables. El peso excesivo de las maxitrail, nos amarga el uso utilitario, la ruta, la salida, el aparcamiento o el alzamiento de la moto del suelo cuando cae, y es por esto y las restricciones e imposiciones globalistas y agendatarias que, en Occidente, estas comedidas cilindradas se están convirtiendo en maxiventas y motos lógicas para los que van y para los que volvemos. Me encanta esa 450 MT y estaré atento a su evolución a lo largo del próximo año.
Saludos desde España. ✌
De hecho sí tiene slipper clutch, hasta donde tengo entendido.
The weakest link in anything mechanical these days is the electrical system. The more tech involved, the higher the potential of failure. Gone are the days when bikes were simple, only requiring an ignition winding, and a set of points to ensure reliability. The Chinese engines have really advanced from a mechanical standpoint.
However, it will be seen if the electrical systems are robust enough to ensure reliability. After all, BMW switched to Nipon Denso due to the shortcomings of Bosch. Perhaps CFMOTO should look towards a company with more experience to ensure electrical reliability, in the short term at least, much like their use of Canadian CVT transmissions on their Quads,
They flew you to an exotic island, they put you in a nice hotel, they fed and watered you and (what a surprise) you liked their bike!
There’s always one…
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They’re too scared to point out any major shortcoming because that’s the end of their relationship with cfmoto and since cfmoto pay for advertisements in the magazine, they have no option but to like it and glance over any real questions. Like questionable durability. poor resale value. Poor dealer network. Questionable warranty outcomes etc. Let the buyer beware 😅
@@superwag634 what absolute horsesh!t If you read any of my reviews you’ll see I point out any issues I find with bikes regardless of who they’re from.
@@Vicko026 I’m commenting on what was presented in this video. As the guy above pointed out, there does seem to be a general conflict of interest 🤷♂️
Its actually looking like trimmed t7 to 450
Feels it too...
how tall are you?
Just under 6ft (181 cms)
@@Vicko026 cool, thanks 🤘
420lbs for a 400cc adv bike is a deal breaker for me. That Chineseium be heavy stuff.
Which twin cylinder Adventure bike are you comparing it to thats noticeably lighter?
It’s only 25 pounds lighter than a Tenere but with 40% less horsepower. What’s the point?
You forgot the bit about it being less than half the price of a tenere
@@Vicko026 a Tenere sells in the US for $10,799, the 450MT purportedly will sell for $9,000. What’s the point?
@@jctothNot everyone is in the US. In Australia the T7 is over 20,000, the 450mt is 9,500.
@@jctoth 9 grand Australian versus over 20 Australian for the T7. I'm an Aussie. Hence the funny accent mate ;)
@@jctoth the CFMoto 450 MT will be $6,599 in the USA.