Believe me when I say… you really have to try it to believe that it weighs nowhere near the 175kg / 190kg paper weight. Also, here are some additional observations while riding the 450MT here in Palawan for a whole day with 60/40% offroad. - Bike has almost non existent heat while we rode it under intense beach heat offroad. - Extremely fuel efficient, only 2 bars was deducted in its 17.5L fuel tank capacity - I feel faster and more comfortable riding this than my dessert sled - The extremely light clutch, easy to find neutral and smooth transmission made the ride more enjoyable
Someone said the consumption was around 20 km per liter...if you going to talk about gasoline consumption be more specific (2 bars says nothing, at which speed way of riding , terrain etc).someone said it weights around 200 kilo wet weight, for a 450 is not light at all....which benefits did you get to advertise this amazing motorcycle, as you sound like a ''sales representative in his first days at work''?
CFMoto is doing a great job offering alternatives to the big brands with relevant features and more affordable pricing. This is really beneficial to the motorcycle community because it will clamp down the aggressive pricing of the big brands.
The best part of their alternatives is they are actually listening to what riders are asking for and bringing them to market. There’s a place for liter and larger bikes but they are not ideal for most riders as they are a handful off-road. The CFMoto 450MT and Kove 450 Rally are filling a niche riders have been asking for for years. A big thank you to CFMoto and Kove for listening.
I got the 450nk, the motor is great and punchy for city and enough for some fun in twisties. Reprogramming and opening the air accompanied with a nice exhaust, oh boy you will love it. I would really love to try this one out ! Euro 5 regulations restrict the motor a lot..
Thank you Juanico for the review, i have looked into these CFMoto's and i think they would be a great choice for over there and i may get one but maybe the 800 to get around Pangasinan when we get back over there.
Awesome review, the IBEX 450 looks fun. I cant believe it took this long for a company to FINALLY make a motorcycle with features customers actually want!
This will be my next bike, I'm tired of waiting for a Versys x400, as the owner of a 1st gen 2017 Versys x300, this is the evolution i have wanted for a couple of years already. It took me 3-4 years to really feel like the Versys x300 is no longer enough for what i need it for.
What you call an aftermarket seat I think is a CFMoto factory option, correct? I agree, it would still be a great option for even more money! I want one, and a 450SS/SR 😊
I had crf300l. Sold it. This bike is only for light wood terrain. Very unimpressed on asfalt. Sucks. And bad on enduro routes. I want something for everyday drive to work on asfalt. And get some opportunitie to drive in to wood roads and gravel. Ofcorse no enduro routes. Think this might be the one. 24hp on crf sucks. Had drz400sm. Was much more fun with 10x better suspension. Just outdated.
Yes, I think we've all waited too long for a Tenere 400-450cc lighter bike. 450MT filled a gap no company was willing to get into. This is way different than 390 ADV and RE Himalayan
Japanese and European big brands are resting on their laurels. This is the very unicorn bike thousands of bikers have been asking and waiting for for many years.
Crf is easy made into adventure with bigger tank and screen, I chose the verseys 300 to compare because it’s a twin. You can’t call 450mt light weight because it’s heavy af . Ktm 690 is 145kg, crf300 rally 152kg. Tell me what 40hp bike its lighter than?
When compared to Himalayan, this is a whole lot more of motorcycle that is very well thought off. The only thing you might need to install are crash guard and panniers other that that its ready to be taken on and off the road.
La motocicleta me gusta y las explicaciones sobre ella muy bien detalladas pero lo que más me llama la atención es el nombre y apellido. Un afectuoso saludo de otro Fernández desde España. Viva Filipinas.
Wish he wad these around here. For now only CFmoto UTVs are available on my country. At least for now we can have Triumph 400x or Himas 450 by the next year.
CF moto are opening a booking now in Indonesia with USD 10K ( due to >250cc tax regulation ). Tgis is the best bang for buck ADV bike available. Cant wait for it... thx bro
cheaping out on some parts and even if they really built it well just because of china's reputation they really can't put them out close to the price of the more established brands.
He tenido motos trial, trail y maxitrail desde hace 45 años. La CFMoto MT 450, en mi opinión posee potencia casi suficiente, buen equipamiento de serie, larga autonomía, carenados suficientes, actualizaciones de software vía app de móvil, ABS y DSC desconectables, tubeless, buena ergonomía, manetas regulables, pantalla ajustable, tomas de energía, escape alto, capacidad de carga, subchasis desmontable, estriberas, cambio, y espejos retráctiles, suspensiones largas solventes y adecuadas para uso mixto, electrónica comedida, altura de asiento polivalente desde solo 80 a 87 centímetros y sobre el papel buenos materiales y acabados. A mí personalmente me gustaría con opción a llantas de aleación, pero es casi perfecta. Solo le falta ofrecer Quickshifter y color verde que me encanta para moto trail. Incluso los japoneses, tendrían que tomar ejemplo en cuanto a diseño y equipamiento de serie. Habrá que esperar a ver su fiabilidad, intervalos de mantenimiento y precio. Estas nuevas motos chinas, tienen una relación calidad precio muchísimo mejor que las japonesas. Esta CFMoto 450 es lo que podía haber sido la ansiada KTM 490 Adventure. Hay muchísima expectación en España e Iberoamérica sobre esta CFMoto 450 MT. La altura excesiva del asiento de mi actual KTM 390 Adv, a 85.5 centímetros del suelo, a veces se me hace incómoda e incluso peligrosa. Los chinos lo están haciendo muy bien en estas categorías, cubriendo nichos de mercado a precios razonables. El peso excesivo de las maxitrail, nos amarga la ruta, la salida, el aparcamiento o el alzamiento de la moto del suelo cuando cae, y es por esto y las restricciones e imposiciones globalistas y agendatarias, que, en Occidente, estas comedidas cilindradas se están convirtiendo en maxiventas y motos lógicas para los que van y para los que volvemos. No obstante, me encanta esa moto y estaré atento a su evolución. Los chinos lo estáis haciendo muy bien también en estas categorías, cubriendo nichos de mercado a precios razonables. ✌ Saludos desde España.
It's around 5.800$... How hard is it to display a converted price to dollars next to pesos? And no I'm not American but I know in my head to convert from dollars to my local currency.
@@Galvoflysoz Do you actually think before you type something? So it's easier for thousands of viewers to Google and convert rather than him only to do it once. I see this with other Philippines TH-camrs, doing reviews in English for better views but too lazy to give the info to the international audience. So no I'm not lazy, I did google it, he is lazy for not doing his job properly!
@GameOn82 so you want him to list the currency conversions for everyone in the world or are you a self titled US citizen? How about he does it in Aud Cad Mexican Peso and every other bloody currency as well because your lazy.
WHY IS IT SO HARD FOR MANUFACTURERS TO JUST MAKE AN ENTRY LEVEL ADVENTURE BIKE THE WAY WE WANTED??!?!??! It's funny how a random Chinese manufacturer became the one to release exactly what we wanted. Lets compare it to KTM Adventure 390. The name is "Adventure" but that's a street bike. You cannot convince me otherwise. BMW GS310. It looks like a Touring/Adventure bike, it's not. It's a streetbike that is massively underpowered. Honda CB500X. That's a street bike. The streetest bike in the world. Yes, cry about it. You FILTHY STREET-ONLY-DWELLER. Honda CRF300 Rally. That's just a pitbike. Don't call it "Adventure". Any bike is an offroad adventure bike if you ride SLOW ENOUGH. Sorry guys, I was just frustrated. I am happy about the 450MT.
I think it’s a great looking bikes with loads of features, that make it ALSO the perfect “ light weight ADV / Dual sport bike “ BUT a few flaws 1. 190kg Wet - that’s not light for a 450 twin ( yes it is when you compare to say a Himalayan 450 - single , BUT not when you compare it with a Aprilla 660 Turgarg , Yamaha T7 , or KTM 890 - they are only 203-205 Kg wet . And you get Italian flare , Japanese reliability and dealerships. PLUS more power ( for only a slight weight increase ) so Power to weight ratio would be better on the mid weights ADV bikes . And I know Chinese bikes are definitely improving in quality, reliability and ability. But politically still Chinese. Unfortunately the perfect ADV needs to be no more than around 165kg wet and THATS the perfect ADV / Dual sport . Only to my knowledge 4 bikes on the Market that are close to the perfect ADV / dual sport - that will do off road as good as on ( almost ) 1. Husky 701, KTM 690 and Gas Gas 700 - basically all the Same bike . 2. AJPPR7 and 3. ( well not made anymore) stopped in around 2018 SWM RS 650 - the old Husky TE630 . ALL these bikes are around the 165kg wet , can easy sit on road and HWY speeds + , can be made into gear ADV bikes , probably the AJPPR7 is ready to go out the box . So until we get an ADV ( twin ) under 165kg wet will never have the perfect unicorn 🦄 bike .
Manufacturing and supply chain is complicated. All viecle are fully loaded with origin Chinese parts, KTM390 is mainly mounted in India, but KTM put the wheel on in Malaysia and stamp it for Chinese market. Fuck politics, it's all about supply chain. Manufacturing find it's own way around.. So, I focused on a good rally bike for my personal purpose.. Super happy with my Kove450rally, 140kg and 31liter gasoline
Everything you say is correct, but they are all twice the price. Not everyone has $25-30k to drop on an adventure bike. Plenty of people will buy one instead of a second hand bike. I think they’ll do well tbh.
@@multiadventure Yes agree the Kove is probably the best kitted out single Dual sport / light ADV to date ,at 140kg , I have heard that weight is not 100% accurate? is that wet ? , also supply chain and dealer network is a big one ☝️ for the Kova 450 . It’s also as you would know an unknown as far a reliability and long jevity . I would take a AJPPR7 over a Kovo 450 , same dealer problems but the bike has been around since about 2017 and all bugs on bike have been sorted . And made in Portugal - with ALL top quality components.
Only time will tell. but you only have to look at this bike's siblings that have been out for almost 2 years now (450SR, 450NK, 450 CLC) Also, the fact CFMOTO also manufactures 790 KTMs and Smaller Yamaha bikes for China in the same factory / automated production line
hi, I sat on it at the Rome Motoday and it is one of the most comfortable saddles I have tried. I believe that at the Rome Motoday the highest saddle was mounted, 87cm
It's not a lite bike though for its power output? Can't believe how low the seat is my crf 300 is 100mm higher. But I struggle with that a little, 850mm would be perfect.
Great bike indeed! A lot would say that the bike is overpriced. But I greatly disagree, with those specs and creature comforts. It’s worth our hard earned money.
was going for the transalp too, although I'm short and was planning to get the low seat height but what really swayed me away was the air box design underneath the tank.
@willyd-adv yes it's not abl8ght weight bike at all. But I still like it . I jus5 find it funny what thebingluencers will say instead of being objective.
MAD TV - Australian motorcycle journalist and through the bike was pretty good for the money 💰, but more light off road ADV and just finishing texting the Himalayan 450 this week, The 450 Himalayan is better off road and still ALMOST as good on road . My money would be the Himalayan 450
It isn't so lightweight considering it can easily go over 203KG wet along with crash guards and stuff. 175KG is dry weight. It's only around 10KG lighter than 600-700cc competition
Believe me when I say… you really have to try it to believe that it weighs nowhere near the 175kg / 190kg paper weight.
Also, here are some additional observations while riding the 450MT here in Palawan for a whole day with 60/40% offroad.
- Bike has almost non existent heat while we rode it under intense beach heat offroad.
- Extremely fuel efficient, only 2 bars was deducted in its 17.5L fuel tank capacity
- I feel faster and more comfortable riding this than my dessert sled
- The extremely light clutch, easy to find neutral and smooth transmission made the ride more enjoyable
Someone said the consumption was around 20 km per liter...if you going to talk about gasoline consumption be more specific (2 bars says nothing, at which speed way of riding , terrain etc).someone said it weights around 200 kilo wet weight, for a 450 is not light at all....which benefits did you get to advertise this amazing motorcycle, as you sound like a ''sales representative in his first days at work''?
So pretty much the same as a honda nx500
@@ekimandersom4478 lighter by few kilos
Mate you don't have to go this hard on selling this bike.😅
Please review HIMALAYAN 452
CFMoto is doing a great job offering alternatives to the big brands with relevant features and more affordable pricing. This is really beneficial to the motorcycle community because it will clamp down the aggressive pricing of the big brands.
The best part of their alternatives is they are actually listening to what riders are asking for and bringing them to market. There’s a place for liter and larger bikes but they are not ideal for most riders as they are a handful off-road.
The CFMoto 450MT and Kove 450 Rally are filling a niche riders have been asking for for years. A big thank you to CFMoto and Kove for listening.
@@krisholt8390 if they can shave the weight issues their bikes usually have then it'll make their bikes more enticing. my 450mt is coming next month!
The best feature of this entry level adv is it's tubeless spoked rims.
agreed. the fact that this is not standard on the transalp and tenere is silly
I would of bought the transalp if it had tubeless rims.. to add them in my country is around $1700usd without tyres
@@misterchuck6866 transalp was my first choice but that airbox placement under the friggin gas tank is what swayed me away from it. ridiculous design.
@@misterchuck6866 Agreed...I sold my Tenere after a rear wheel puncture left me stranded. With tubeless, I could have plugged it and ridden on.
Once this gets released in the US fall of 2024 it’s going to sell like crazy!!! I can’t wait to see it in person.
I got the 450nk, the motor is great and punchy for city and enough for some fun in twisties. Reprogramming and opening the air accompanied with a nice exhaust, oh boy you will love it.
I would really love to try this one out !
Euro 5 regulations restrict the motor a lot..
I never thought the day would come...na magagandahan ako sa mga ADV bike! Good job again CFMoto!
Another excellent review Juanico! This one is part of my shortlist for my next big bike.
First timer seeing your review. Short and detail. Thanks for elaborate this awesome bikes
Thank you Juanico for the review, i have looked into these CFMoto's and i think they would be a great choice for over there and i may get one but maybe the 800 to get around Pangasinan when we get back over there.
Awesome review, the IBEX 450 looks fun. I cant believe it took this long for a company to FINALLY make a motorcycle with features customers actually want!
This will be my next bike, I'm tired of waiting for a Versys x400, as the owner of a 1st gen 2017 Versys x300, this is the evolution i have wanted for a couple of years already. It took me 3-4 years to really feel like the Versys x300 is no longer enough for what i need it for.
For what it is not enough?
I really really want CF to make a scrambler with this engine!!😍
Very good review, punchy and straight to the point. How about on road performance or when slow in traffic
CFmoto really thought of everything for this bike.
What you call an aftermarket seat I think is a CFMoto factory option, correct?
I agree, it would still be a great option for even more money!
I want one, and a 450SS/SR 😊
Sana all nakapag review na ng bike❤, to excited narin for the same opportunity ❤
Solid review bro!
how nice to have one these someday..
Great review... I'm Australia and would love to get this bike once I get my license... that or the CRF 300 Rally are my choices.
Get the 300 rally mate, 190kg and 45hp equals to heavy for the dirt and slow on the road.
I had crf300l. Sold it. This bike is only for light wood terrain. Very unimpressed on asfalt. Sucks. And bad on enduro routes. I want something for everyday drive to work on asfalt. And get some opportunitie to drive in to wood roads and gravel. Ofcorse no enduro routes. Think this might be the one. 24hp on crf sucks. Had drz400sm. Was much more fun with 10x better suspension. Just outdated.
I think the 450 will be a great bike to learn in and you won’t outgrow it too quickly.
yes specially the kove 450cc motocros rally a finisher in Dakar motocros rally 2023
I bought one... Should be in my garage next month!
We need review from actual owners. Keep us posted.
same, april is just around the corner.
@@paulchin4094 Will do!
Looks like Tenere's little bro...!!! Awesome piece of engineering...!!!
Yes, I think we've all waited too long for a Tenere 400-450cc lighter bike. 450MT filled a gap no company was willing to get into. This is way different than 390 ADV and RE Himalayan
CFMoto appears to have done a fantastic job with this bike! 👍 👍
Beautiful!!! ❤❤❤
This might be my first bike if it comes to America.Its loaded with everything .
Japanese and European big brands are resting on their laurels. This is the very unicorn bike thousands of bikers have been asking and waiting for for many years.
You’re joking right, I have an aprilia Tuareg it makes the cfmoto look silly
@@gordonshaw6231 Have you already tried the CFMoto?
@@gordonshaw6231 If you are talking about the 660 then for AU$22,000 I would bloody hope so. Question is, is it $12000 better?
very interested in this motor, hopefully it will enter the Malaysian market
What revs cruising at 70mph
Crf is easy made into adventure with bigger tank and screen, I chose the verseys 300 to compare because it’s a twin. You can’t call 450mt light weight because it’s heavy af . Ktm 690 is 145kg, crf300 rally 152kg. Tell me what 40hp bike its lighter than?
If 450my is heavy for you then you got problem😂
@ angry-lynx ridiculous comment, I have a thousand cc adv bike that weighs 200 plus kg why would I want a 450 nearly as heavy. 😂
Now make us a lighter, faster, 17” rimmed supermoto based on this chassis!
Nice ,really like this one 👊🏼😎
CF how about cruise control and heated hand grips!!
none, this is cabled, you can probably just buy aftermarket ones from third parties.
When compared to Himalayan, this is a whole lot more of motorcycle that is very well thought off. The only thing you might need to install are crash guard and panniers other that that its ready to be taken on and off the road.
Looks great on paper, now we have to see how it performs in the long run and how is the reliability....
I need this in India ❤
@@Spycraftyyess....... Except for after sales and suspension I can't think of anything where the Himalayan beats this.
@@Spycrafty really bro? Just by looks alone, this one is much better, we need competition in the market too.
Subscribed. Reviewer sound professional and knowledgeable di kagaya ng iba jejemon lol
its 537,606 phi here in pakistan that too with a 2 years warranty only or 24000km
I guess we'll see.... wet the weight isn't much behind the Tenere 700.
Price will be the make or break future of this motorcycle
Very good review guys.
With a lithium battery one can take out further 2 kg or more. Or it mount a lithium battery already?
You can change the muffler & save weight as well if you wanted
@@wickedleeloopy2115 Also changing the handlebar with something in aluminum should bring some benefits.
THANKS FOR THE VIDEO
La motocicleta me gusta y las explicaciones sobre ella muy bien detalladas pero lo que más me llama la atención es el nombre y apellido. Un afectuoso saludo de otro Fernández desde España. Viva Filipinas.
hows Cfmoto brand in general? i mean is that a good brand? hows the after sales service?
They are building engines for KTM..
@@Sebastiantroegerphotohe's not asking if they build ktm engines
depends on where you are.
Thanks u dear gr8 motorcycle, like it
This one is really good❤
Is there any phone connectivity with the screen? Turn by turn navigation? This bike sounds really good. Thanks for the nice review
Useless option
Where does the weight come from?
Does the 450nk also has removable muffler silencer?
Still not available in Canada! 😞
it seems really great! Im torn between this and the new Royal Enfield 450
Nice review. We're you at the launch?
you have problem in your camera sensor ( pixel burst issue )
Did you test the top speed? I keep finding mixed answers, some say 180 kmh others say its 150.
0-100km 5.3s，top speed 160km
NIce review!
Wish he wad these around here. For now only CFmoto UTVs are available on my country. At least for now we can have Triumph 400x or Himas 450 by the next year.
I'm curious. where are you from?
@@juanicofernandez Brazil
Did they think of everything?
Would you know the fuel range?
Congrats! Jericho is love charet. hehehe
When it will come to India?
Where can I buy this bike now in the Pinas?
Thanks!
CF moto are opening a booking now in Indonesia with USD 10K ( due to >250cc tax regulation ).
Tgis is the best bang for buck ADV bike available. Cant wait for it... thx bro
How do they manage to keep the price so low in the segment ?
Filipinos would like to disagree with you. (I'm a Filipino myself, but I'm not one of them)
cheaping out on some parts and even if they really built it well just because of china's reputation they really can't put them out close to the price of the more established brands.
Between vstrom sx250 or cfmoto 450mt which is better to choose or I'm buying both
Clearly the 450mt
He tenido motos trial, trail y maxitrail desde hace 45 años. La CFMoto MT 450, en mi opinión posee potencia casi suficiente, buen equipamiento de serie, larga autonomía, carenados suficientes, actualizaciones de software vía app de móvil, ABS y DSC desconectables, tubeless, buena ergonomía, manetas regulables, pantalla ajustable, tomas de energía, escape alto, capacidad de carga, subchasis desmontable, estriberas, cambio, y espejos retráctiles, suspensiones largas solventes y adecuadas para uso mixto, electrónica comedida, altura de asiento polivalente desde solo 80 a 87 centímetros y sobre el papel buenos materiales y acabados. A mí personalmente me gustaría con opción a llantas de aleación, pero es casi perfecta.
Solo le falta ofrecer Quickshifter y color verde que me encanta para moto trail. Incluso los japoneses, tendrían que tomar ejemplo en cuanto a diseño y equipamiento de serie. Habrá que esperar a ver su fiabilidad, intervalos de mantenimiento y precio. Estas nuevas motos chinas, tienen una relación calidad precio muchísimo mejor que las japonesas. Esta CFMoto 450 es lo que podía haber sido la ansiada KTM 490 Adventure. Hay muchísima expectación en España e Iberoamérica sobre esta CFMoto 450 MT.
La altura excesiva del asiento de mi actual KTM 390 Adv, a 85.5 centímetros del suelo, a veces se me hace incómoda e incluso peligrosa. Los chinos lo están haciendo muy bien en estas categorías, cubriendo nichos de mercado a precios razonables. El peso excesivo de las maxitrail, nos amarga la ruta, la salida, el aparcamiento o el alzamiento de la moto del suelo cuando cae, y es por esto y las restricciones e imposiciones globalistas y agendatarias, que, en Occidente, estas comedidas cilindradas se están convirtiendo en maxiventas y motos lógicas para los que van y para los que volvemos. No obstante, me encanta esa moto y estaré atento a su evolución. Los chinos lo estáis haciendo muy bien también en estas categorías, cubriendo nichos de mercado a precios razonables.
✌ Saludos desde España.
There's no removable silencers in that muffler. It's welded. If you want to up your exhaust sound, buy a slip-on.
@@myrtlekenazjanairo9411 yup, that part of the review needs a correction
It's around 5.800$... How hard is it to display a converted price to dollars next to pesos? And no I'm not American but I know in my head to convert from dollars to my local currency.
How hard is it to type into google and have that in 10 seconds? Sounds like you're too lazy for an adventure bike.
@@Galvoflysoz Do you actually think before you type something? So it's easier for thousands of viewers to Google and convert rather than him only to do it once. I see this with other Philippines TH-camrs, doing reviews in English for better views but too lazy to give the info to the international audience. So no I'm not lazy, I did google it, he is lazy for not doing his job properly!
@GameOn82 so you want him to list the currency conversions for everyone in the world or are you a self titled US citizen? How about he does it in Aud Cad Mexican Peso and every other bloody currency as well because your lazy.
because that wouldn't be the price in the US, different import duties.
CFMoto have nailed it
WHY IS IT SO HARD FOR MANUFACTURERS TO JUST MAKE AN ENTRY LEVEL ADVENTURE BIKE THE WAY WE WANTED??!?!??!
It's funny how a random Chinese manufacturer became the one to release exactly what we wanted.
Lets compare it to KTM Adventure 390. The name is "Adventure" but that's a street bike. You cannot convince me otherwise.
BMW GS310. It looks like a Touring/Adventure bike, it's not. It's a streetbike that is massively underpowered.
Honda CB500X. That's a street bike. The streetest bike in the world. Yes, cry about it. You FILTHY STREET-ONLY-DWELLER.
Honda CRF300 Rally. That's just a pitbike. Don't call it "Adventure".
Any bike is an offroad adventure bike if you ride SLOW ENOUGH.
Sorry guys, I was just frustrated. I am happy about the 450MT.
Himalayan
I think it’s a great looking bikes with loads of features, that make it ALSO the perfect “ light weight ADV / Dual sport bike “ BUT a few flaws
1. 190kg Wet - that’s not light for a 450 twin ( yes it is when you compare to say a Himalayan 450 - single , BUT not when you compare it with a Aprilla 660 Turgarg , Yamaha T7 , or KTM 890 - they are only 203-205 Kg wet . And you get Italian flare , Japanese reliability and dealerships. PLUS more power ( for only a slight weight increase ) so Power to weight ratio would be better on the mid weights ADV bikes . And I know Chinese bikes are definitely improving in quality, reliability and ability. But politically still Chinese.
Unfortunately the perfect ADV needs to be no more than around 165kg wet and THATS the perfect ADV / Dual sport . Only to my knowledge 4 bikes on the Market that are close to the perfect ADV / dual sport - that will do off road as good as on ( almost )
1. Husky 701, KTM 690 and Gas Gas 700 - basically all the Same bike .
2. AJPPR7 and
3. ( well not made anymore) stopped in around 2018 SWM RS 650 - the old Husky TE630 .
ALL these bikes are around the 165kg wet , can easy sit on road and HWY speeds + , can be made into gear ADV bikes , probably the AJPPR7 is ready to go out the box .
So until we get an ADV ( twin ) under 165kg wet will never have the perfect unicorn 🦄 bike .
Well said saw this after I commented. Totally agree.
Manufacturing and supply chain is complicated. All viecle are fully loaded with origin Chinese parts, KTM390 is mainly mounted in India, but KTM put the wheel on in Malaysia and stamp it for Chinese market. Fuck politics, it's all about supply chain. Manufacturing find it's own way around.. So, I focused on a good rally bike for my personal purpose.. Super happy with my Kove450rally, 140kg and 31liter gasoline
Everything you say is correct, but they are all twice the price.
Not everyone has $25-30k to drop on an adventure bike.
Plenty of people will buy one instead of a second hand bike.
I think they’ll do well tbh.
@@multiadventure Yes agree the Kove is probably the best kitted out single Dual sport / light ADV to date ,at 140kg , I have heard that weight is not 100% accurate? is that wet ? , also supply chain and dealer network is a big one ☝️ for the Kova 450 . It’s also as you would know an unknown as far a reliability and long jevity . I would take a AJPPR7 over a Kovo 450 , same dealer problems but the bike has been around since about 2017 and all bugs on bike have been sorted . And made in Portugal - with ALL top quality components.
@@KenDavis-u1vthanks mate 👍
Question is quality and reliability,can it compare with honda in long term ?i dont trust chinese,but bike is beautiful!
Only time will tell. but you only have to look at this bike's siblings that have been out for almost 2 years now (450SR, 450NK, 450 CLC)
Also, the fact CFMOTO also manufactures 790 KTMs and Smaller Yamaha bikes for China in the same factory / automated production line
I wonder how comfortable the pillion seat is? I want this bike, but I also need to consider my wife's seat to get the approval. 😁
X2
+1 on using the memory foam tho. Does it go all the way back to the pillion?
Get a bigger bike I recon
hi, I sat on it at the Rome Motoday and it is one of the most comfortable saddles I have tried. I believe that at the Rome Motoday the highest saddle was mounted, 87cm
@@renic72 Is it also comfortable on the pillion seat?
High Front fender is optional?
@@M1keMaster yes
It's not a lite bike though for its power output? Can't believe how low the seat is my crf 300 is 100mm higher. But I struggle with that a little, 850mm would be perfect.
there's a 870mm seat accessory.
Weights the same as T7 dry, how is this a lightweight?
Available in India?
Achei linda essa moto top de linha os chineses são muito inteligentes
Is it better than Himalayan
5:03 hand guards?
more like wind guards, they're just plastic and should be replaced if you want protection.
When will launch India ?? what's the price of 450 MT
THIS Cf moto 450MT import option available in india
1 indian ruppee is 0.67 php
This can go to almost 5 lakh.
@@kentoylampingasan Good price, import option available??
@@jagadeeshk7424 that i do not know. If CF Moto is available in India, there is a big probability that it will be importers there.
Great bike indeed! A lot would say that the bike is overpriced. But I greatly disagree, with those specs and creature comforts. It’s worth our hard earned money.
They say it's overpriced only because it's made in china, but the features and quality say otherwise
Overpriced? Its 6k Euro which is one net salary. Bargain
@@luckybsd Filipinos think it's overpriced because they think "it's made in china, it should be cheaper"
@@ShinzouWoSateSateSate I agree, but when the Japanese Big 4 releases a bike with a higher price tag. No one bats an eye 😂
@@luckybsd they say it’s overpriced since it’s a chinese made bike. But I think with the features it has, bang for the buck anytime of the day.
Hi. How tall are U?
They originally make 4x4 before motos unsurprised that CF Moto made an awesome offroad...
CF Moto nailed it
love it :)
When is this releasing in US
Roughly 8 months after it gets released to the Philippines or at least that has been the pattern since 2022 so far 🤞🏾
3rd quarter if i'm not mistaken.
Late August/September 2024...$6,500 MSRP
What's your height?
I'm 6'2. would it be comfortable for me?
I’m 5’9. You definately need the high/comfort seat
US ktm 390 does in fact come with spoked tubeless- nvm just spoked
Tubeless?
@@juanicofernandez I miss-read! They are tube type
What if this bike goes to the Dakar, that would be cool.
Can anybody tell me what is the top speed of this motor?
150 kmh
Yea i think I found my next bike. I have a Transalp and find it to be too big for my height.
was going for the transalp too, although I'm short and was planning to get the low seat height but what really swayed me away was the air box design underneath the tank.
@@metalsadman it’s not as hard to get to as many will make you believe but not the most ideal
Coming to the USA?
Late 2024 allegedly
Is this available in india
himalayan or mt450?
Correction, the new Himy has tubeless version .. But the price of the new one is 1600€ more then the CF moto
328.900 PHP = 5.369€ ça m'intéresse beaucoup! à quand la disponibilité en France??
6600€ en France
CF MOTO NEEDS TO SOLVE THE SPARE PARTS PROBLEM IN TURKEY
i think the only problem with the bike is the fact their is no cruise control and gps like its big brother the 800mt
Well, its an offroad adv, not touring
@@ganzmontejo4176 ok explain the africa twin and the BMW range of adv bikes and ktm adventure bikes all having cruise control then
you want cruise control on an off road bike?? why??
GPS at this price point??
@@ganzmontejo4176I bet most people that buy this bike will be using it the majority of the time for road touring.
Not sure how the dry weight is 175kg, then add 17.5L fuel, oil etc and only comes out at 190kg.... more like 200kg+
Which is to heavy
Just under 200kg around 195kg
@@Galvoflysoz so the Aprilia will have 30hp more for just 9kg difference
@willyd-adv yes it's not abl8ght weight bike at all. But I still like it . I jus5 find it funny what thebingluencers will say instead of being objective.
definitely not lightweight, though where that weight go is also a factor, if it's high up then you'll definitely feel that weight.
1 liter og gasoline is only .74kg. Now you can do the math
MAD TV - Australian motorcycle journalist and through the bike was pretty good for the money 💰, but more light off road ADV and just finishing texting the Himalayan 450 this week, The 450 Himalayan is better off road and still ALMOST as good on road . My money would be the Himalayan 450
To each his own ✌🏻 I personally prefer the 450mt
Available in India
It isn't so lightweight considering it can easily go over 203KG wet along with crash guards and stuff. 175KG is dry weight. It's only around 10KG lighter than 600-700cc competition