The Cobra was a lot more agile than I expected it to be, I guess 7l is going to make it quick on the straights but I was expecting to see more understeer and to see the tires start to give out.
@@StephenJohnson-jb7xe They both should have a 427 C.I. motor in them. Yes, I'm on this side of the Pond. Not sure if HP would be much different, but the GT40 could have up to a 500 lb. disadvantage also. But mostly, I think, it was that loose nut behind the wheel slingin' that Cobra that gave it a fighting chance . . . ✌️😎
@@thetruth5232 the motor is heavier than what’s in the MK1s, cobra itself weighs less than the GT, if the GT had the 7L it would make more power than the Cobra cause it’s configured differently, even if the intervals of both motors were the same the GT would make more power.
@@sethharpenger607 He meant obviously visible driving skills, because the GT40s are superior, yet the Cobra kept up well due to to-the-limit daring driving, especially in corners.
When you know how fast a GT40 is on track you really have to appreciate how quick that Cobra was going... All cudos to the drivers.. Each of those cars are a real handful at that speed but especially the Widowmaker.. (Cobra). Great to see them being used as they were intended.. :]
driving a 7 liter cobra at these speeds and around these corners is like driving on a slippery road or ice. Mountains of power, lite, and just begging to spin out.
The driver, Bill Shepherd, posted a small onboard footage of him racing that Cobra, apparently, he suffered from hand cramps while driving the Cobra , you can see in the footage that he sometimes struggled to grip the steering wheel with his right hand after gear changes...
We've amended our pre-race procedure after this race. Any driver scheduled to handle the 427 Cobra is fed a preventative banana in the collecting area!@@jcgabriel1569
That's eye-opening. You hear how fast the AC Cobra was, but until you see it up against the car that won LeMan outright 4 years in a row, and basically going the same pace, you don't realise just how fast the damn thing was.
@@richardgrant418fair point, but i feel like most people would, even knowing how much slower this circuit is, put their money on the gt40’s vs the cobra
@@richardgrant418 which would favor the Cobra. the GT40s are faster through the turns, the Cobra was stretching them out on the straights. . i'm assuming these are small block GT40s, not the 427ci Side Oilers.
@@odnamsrazor2364They were 427s, the Mk1 GT40s had the smaller V8s, those are not MK1s. The GT40 was considerably faster on straights than the Cobra in general but the Cobra driver is really the hero there. He really made that GT40 try very hard.
@@stevejones8660you mean take the credit. GT 40 chassis was already designed long before ford came along, ditto with the cobra, Lola were always broke and AC were having issues getting a reliable source of engines after Bristol stopped making their engines. Americas input was to put a big block in a British designed, engineer and built and raced small block car, and the pretend it was all American genius. It was an engine swop.
The cat driving that 427SC is a BOSS, holding off a pair of GT40's with a front engine, rear wheel drive roadster (!) Cobra's eat Ferrari's and poop Corvettes.
especially considering it is an open car, and not the least bit streamlined or aerodynamic compared to the GT's which were wind tunnel designed. Seemed like the raw power of the Cobra kept them at bay.
@@mattserraes8561 in Europe, they generally tend to drive much harder. It's almost like modern-day racing there, in a way, only that the cars were old, parts had to be period-correct, and I doubt they ever got any cash prize winning races...
Other people are talking about the amazing driving and fantastic engineering on display. I'm just thinking about a repair bill with lots of zeros on the end.
The M40’s look like the MK 1 so they are running the 289 vs the Cobra’s 427. Carol Shelby has been noted as saying he liked the 289 over the 427 because of the weight difference. But it took the MKII with the 427 to win LaMans.
@@greghanson3495Generally speaking, the MKII had larger rear bodywork do to having to be reworked to fit the 427 along with improved air intakes to help cool the larger power plant. With that said there does appear to be a distinct sound difference between the 8 and the 6. 🤔
Love seeing these classic racecars being driven the way they were meant to be driven despite their values these days! Goodwood is a deceptively challenging circuit too. Momentum is very important, and then there's that walled chicane. You don't want to get that wrong!
Really incredible how well the Cobra's holding its own against the GT40s which were faster, more aerodynamic, handled better, and more advanced. Despite those disadvantages that Cobra was no pushover for the GT40. The Daytona coupe was reputed to be faster than the GT40, Ford ordered Shelby to stop racing them. Seeing the standard Cobra do so well helps add validity to that historical claim.
Amazing how Awesome the Cobra was, considering he's Running against Purpose-built Racecars with a car basically Cobbled Together around that BBF. Both Platforms were and still awesome!!👍👍
It's a family feud, with Junior trying to run away from his big bros! :-) I wonder if the Cobra driver is screaming, “More power! I need more power!!” What glorious noise!!
I Guess that the GT40's have the edge in handling and aerodynamics, I do have a friend that has a 427 Cobra (Original) that gets 1100++ HP out of the mill but he doesn't race and I don't know what rules the race course has on engine modification. The Cobra does seem to have a very slight advantage on the straights but that could be because he is holding back the GT40's in the curves. Anyway a fun vid and enjoyable race to watch IMO
A car built in the mid 60's giving a midern electronic aided modern mid engined sports car all it could handle. Took how many decades for any other car to beat some if the recirds rhe Cobra S/C set. And it did it on bias ply tires.
It took incredible skill and raw courage to drive a ferocious race prepared Cobra at speed like this. Even in street trim, the Cobras acceleration was terrifying. I was fortunate enough to put many miles on a real side oiler. Approaching a corner with throttle planted, nose up, rear squatting, you better time the excellent brakes right or you get buried closed casket.
You can see how the Cobra and the GT40s really prefer different lines. The Cobra has the speed but needs to carry that speed through the corner. The GT40s are more agile through those slaloms and ultimately win the day. Great effort all around and great clip!
When the GT 40 was being developed. I read an article about the performance on the track. They were working on the chassis and suspension...A test driver took around the course and when he " pitted " he mentioned how , at 200 mph, the car was a little " loose"....This was back in the late 60s or early 70s.
Awesome skill of the Cobra driver 👍 using his powerful engine to accelerate this huge and heavy car out of the turns. The Ferraris were better at braking and turning. Awesome to see a roadster being a challenge for optimized, stream-lined race cars.
Be nice if they told us about the individual cars. The body of the Cobra doesn't seem wide enough at the wheel openings to be a 427 car but has the 427 exhaust. It is also twitchy in the turns which leads you to think it's nose heavy as well. However the 427 competition Cobras had 600 horsepower and should easily catch a 289 GT40 in the long straight after the chicane and it didn't. The GT40's are obviously 289mark 1 cars as they don't have the extra scoops on the rear of the car that the 427 powered cars had.
The attractive part in watching old race cars going at it, is that the looser suspension and lesser stiff bodywork combined with the sliding rear and no active traction aids but the steering dynamic of the pilot, offers the best speed sensation for the spectator. Compared to the modern race cars, these older generations seem to carry much more speed while the opposite is true. I am an all time all category grand tourist enthusiast, any type of gt racing compels me, but the older generations just have so much more drama in them.
Tire technology have changed a LOT since the 60s. The type of handling you see at Goodwood are highly based on they use "correct" vintage type race tires.
There is (almost) no substitute for cubic inches.... After 63 years of attending race meetings the Goodwood Members Meeting still draws me every year. Check out the SF Edge Trophy footage from last year. Two races for 100+ year old single seaters. The first won by 0.3 seconds, the other by 0.1 seconds.
Like a couple of cheetahs hunting down a gazelle. Just a voice over by David Attenborough to finish the picture but sorry David the V8’s on full song can’t be beaten.
Same thing with modern day LMP cars, you think they’re large because you don’t really have a reference, then you see them in the paddocks and they’re tiny!
El cobra a vendido cara la piel, los GT 40 son superiores aerodinámicamente y con mejor distribución de pesos y contra eso no se puede luchar, aparte que los cobra son coches muy dificiles de conducir mas cortos , estrechos y altos son contras determinantes en un circuito como ese , mención especial al piloto cobra excelente trabajo .
Are you taking a small-engined Mk1 GT40 or the big-engined Cobra?
No need to asking, GT40 all the time.
Clearly the GT40
Cobra, looks better, more feeling
Im 6'6, i dont think i could get in the GT40. Cobra it is
Cobra
Considering the differences in suspension between the Cobra and the GT40's, that's a pretty heroic drive on the part of the Cobra.
The Cobra was a lot more agile than I expected it to be, I guess 7l is going to make it quick on the straights but I was expecting to see more understeer and to see the tires start to give out.
@@StephenJohnson-jb7xe
They both should have a 427 C.I. motor in them. Yes, I'm on this side of the Pond.
Not sure if HP would be much different, but the GT40 could have up to a 500 lb. disadvantage also.
But mostly, I think, it was that loose nut behind the wheel slingin' that Cobra that gave it a fighting chance . . . ✌️😎
@@elvispresley6392if the GTs had the 7L then their configuration would make more power than the Cobra but the Cobra weighs way less than the GT
@@jasoncampbell4723 The 427 Cobra is 100kg heavier than the MkI GT40. The MkII 7.0L GT40 Would match the Cobra in weight.
@@thetruth5232 the motor is heavier than what’s in the MK1s, cobra itself weighs less than the GT, if the GT had the 7L it would make more power than the Cobra cause it’s configured differently, even if the intervals of both motors were the same the GT would make more power.
Love the pure sound with no commentary.
I stopped bothering with the TV coverage of the Goodwood festival of speed, because the put music over the sound.
@@joejoejoejoejoejoe4391 U wot m8?
Agreed, watching on you tube is best. No music.
I heard that's an option in one of their packages. They have the technology.
427 BABY!!
When you look at the aerodynamics and difference in suspensions of the GT 40s, Bravo to the Cobra driver
Torque!
@@sethharpenger607 He meant obviously visible driving skills, because the GT40s are superior, yet the Cobra kept up well due to to-the-limit daring driving, especially in corners.
So much more entertaining than current day F1!
more like any gen f1
Proper motor racing, unlike the current yawnfest, known as F1 !
Nostalga at it's best .
When you know how fast a GT40 is on track you really have to appreciate how quick that Cobra was going... All cudos to the drivers.. Each of those cars are a real handful at that speed but especially the Widowmaker.. (Cobra). Great to see them being used as they were intended.. :]
That was the best 3 and a half minutes of my day.🙂
driving a 7 liter cobra at these speeds and around these corners is like driving on a slippery road or ice. Mountains of power, lite, and just begging to spin out.
The driver, Bill Shepherd, posted a small onboard footage of him racing that Cobra, apparently, he suffered from hand cramps while driving the Cobra , you can see in the footage that he sometimes struggled to grip the steering wheel with his right hand after gear changes...
@@jcgabriel1569Found it, watch, level of Awesome in that is as far off the charts as the speedo needle goes!
@@PiDsPagePrototypes you should see his other videos of you want some more of those V8s!
We've amended our pre-race procedure after this race. Any driver scheduled to handle the 427 Cobra is fed a preventative banana in the collecting area!@@jcgabriel1569
i love how the cobra actually looks scared to be hunted and the gt40s happpy to hunt
😂
I saw that too
😮- 😊
You made my day... 🤣☠
😆
That's eye-opening. You hear how fast the AC Cobra was, but until you see it up against the car that won LeMan outright 4 years in a row, and basically going the same pace, you don't realise just how fast the damn thing was.
Goodwood is a far more winding and slow than Le Mans
@@richardgrant418fair point, but i feel like most people would, even knowing how much slower this circuit is, put their money on the gt40’s vs the cobra
Took the first GT a long time to pass the Cobra, and the second one never did.
@@richardgrant418
which would favor the Cobra. the GT40s are faster through the turns, the Cobra was stretching them out on the straights.
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i'm assuming these are small block GT40s, not the 427ci Side Oilers.
@@odnamsrazor2364They were 427s, the Mk1 GT40s had the smaller V8s, those are not MK1s. The GT40 was considerably faster on straights than the Cobra in general but the Cobra driver is really the hero there. He really made that GT40 try very hard.
It's a credit to the design team behind the GT40 that 60yrs later, they can still look so intimidating and imposing on track...
@paulelverstone8677 - Yes, all credit to Eric Broadley of Lola.
Unlimited budget and motivation. Both the Cobra and GT had British origins though!
So did the United States. But we took it further and faster.
@@stevejones8660you mean take the credit. GT 40 chassis was already designed long before ford came along, ditto with the cobra, Lola were always broke and AC were having issues getting a reliable source of engines after Bristol stopped making their engines.
Americas input was to put a big block in a British designed, engineer and built and raced small block car, and the pretend it was all American genius.
It was an engine swop.
I heard the GT40 was designed by the British performance arm of Ford, not American. Probably at Dagenham 🤔
The cat driving that 427SC is a BOSS, holding off a pair of GT40's with a front engine, rear wheel drive roadster (!) Cobra's eat Ferrari's and poop Corvettes.
I Hit The Like Button And I Own A C5
👍🙏🙏
The 427 was, and is, an awesome engine in any car.
Love your last sentence ! 😂😂❤
I’m surprised how well the Cobra did against those GT40s at the beginning
I suspect the Cobra driver was trying harder than the GT40 drivers.
especially considering it is an open car, and not the least bit streamlined or aerodynamic compared to the GT's which were wind tunnel designed. Seemed like the raw power of the Cobra kept them at bay.
He had great straight line speed. He used that to his advantage in the opening laps of the race...
They'd be nuts to push these vintage race cars to their limits. Most vintage races I've watched were very conservative, with easy safe passes.
@@mattserraes8561 in Europe, they generally tend to drive much harder. It's almost like modern-day racing there, in a way, only that the cars were old, parts had to be period-correct, and I doubt they ever got any cash prize winning races...
It's wild to see how big the Cobra is when compared to the GT40.
No matter what you are in , its hard to get around something with the power of a 427 high riser!
Awesome display of driving finesse and shear beauty of the machinery. Surprising how big the Cobra looked when compared to the Lotus 23.
sheer
Nice racing action with no background noise except the sound of horsepower . 👍
That big block held them off pretty well. Impressive to say the least.
That was some hard Gentlemanly racing right there I bet those guys were having such a blast.
That Cobra driver did a great job keeping them GT 40'S at bay for so long great video cheers.👍
That is some awesome Cobra suspension on the front heavy Cobra, amazing drive!! Wish I had that talent!
An stock 427 cobra was spec'ed having 48% of the weight on the front. That big engine was placed far behind the front axle.
@@westmus Oohh...I see...well a fabulous drive! mirror full of GT40?
whoo hoo!!
Other people are talking about the amazing driving and fantastic engineering on display. I'm just thinking about a repair bill with lots of zeros on the end.
The M40’s look like the MK 1 so they are running the 289 vs the Cobra’s 427. Carol Shelby has been noted as saying he liked the 289 over the 427 because of the weight difference. But it took the MKII with the 427 to win LaMans.
Based on the sound, I thought the #8 GT40 was a 427 while the #6 was a 289.
@@greghanson3495Generally speaking, the MKII had larger rear bodywork do to having to be reworked to fit the 427 along with improved air intakes to help cool the larger power plant. With that said there does appear to be a distinct sound difference between the 8 and the 6. 🤔
4 wins at Le Mans for GT40
'66 & '67 for the big block 7.0 427 cars
But '68 &'69 were won by the same small block 5.0 302 car
Beautiful shapes, beautiful sounds, full use of the racing course.
This is what car racing should be!
What a joy to watch!
All that grip with those not so wide tires is amazing
Love seeing these classic racecars being driven the way they were meant to be driven despite their values these days! Goodwood is a deceptively challenging circuit too. Momentum is very important, and then there's that walled chicane. You don't want to get that wrong!
The guy in the Cobra can drive 😀
That guy in the comments section can really comment!
Well, he lost sooooo....
@@CornPopandCrew It was inevitable, but that doesn't take away how awesome it was.
Those cars are beautiful.
Fun with Fords!
I would expect that the GT40s with more modern suspension , just left the Cobra standing............
Epic ! ❤
Just the thumbnail of 3 Fearsome Fords comin' at you tho!!❤
It may be vintage cars but that’s some mighty fine racing!
Really incredible how well the Cobra's holding its own against the GT40s which were faster, more aerodynamic, handled better, and more advanced. Despite those disadvantages that Cobra was no pushover for the GT40.
The Daytona coupe was reputed to be faster than the GT40, Ford ordered Shelby to stop racing them. Seeing the standard Cobra do so well helps add validity to that historical claim.
The Daytona coupe was an amazing beast
@@sethtenrec One of my all time favorites.
Considering the tech differences between the cars, that Cobra is on it.
Amazing how Awesome the Cobra was, considering he's Running against Purpose-built Racecars with a car basically Cobbled Together around that BBF. Both Platforms were and still awesome!!👍👍
Beautiful racing and hunting by the Ford GTs!
Wow, that’s better than anything I’ve seen in F1 in 3 years, and that’s not hyperbole. Amazing battle of icons!
That passing move was very nicely set up and executed.👌
I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING, A TALENTED DRIVER NO LESS
It's a family feud, with Junior trying to run away from his big bros! :-) I wonder if the Cobra driver is screaming, “More power! I need more power!!” What glorious noise!!
Jeremy Clarkson's ideal automobile
Would think this is the least likely car for a driver to scream for more power...
That was some fine racing, boys!
I Guess that the GT40's have the edge in handling and aerodynamics, I do have a friend that has a 427 Cobra (Original) that gets 1100++ HP out of the mill but he doesn't race and I don't know what rules the race course has on engine modification. The Cobra does seem to have a very slight advantage on the straights but that could be because he is holding back the GT40's in the curves. Anyway a fun vid and enjoyable race to watch IMO
Says a lot about how great that Cobra truly is! 😍
Turn it up!
The driver of that cobra is very skilled
Considering the aerodynamics, that cobra was Awesome!
I enjoyed watching this small clip
3.5 minutes of Goodwood battling is more intense and dramatic than any "racing" movie I've ever seen. Yes, that includes _Ford v. Ferrari._
“Let me just put my foot down more.” -(almost) every racing movie ever.
@@karelpgbris it even a real battle if they don't go door-to-door down the straight and look over at each other a lot???
@@daedalus_20v Hahaha, I guess not lol
A car built in the mid 60's giving a midern electronic aided modern mid engined sports car all it could handle. Took how many decades for any other car to beat some if the recirds rhe Cobra S/C set. And it did it on bias ply tires.
0-100-0 in 13.5 seconds
Ken Miles is looking down and is smiling from ear to ear.
Surprising to see the scale difference between the two cars. Plus, hard to believe that the GT40s couldn't blow by the Cobra
The guy driving the Cobra knew what he was doing, but he was delaying the inevitable. When the GT40 gets by it, the Cobra will never catch it again.
It took incredible skill and raw courage to drive a ferocious race prepared Cobra at speed like this. Even in street trim, the Cobras acceleration was terrifying. I was fortunate enough to put many miles on a real side oiler. Approaching a corner with throttle planted, nose up, rear squatting, you better time the excellent brakes right or you get buried closed casket.
You can see how the Cobra and the GT40s really prefer different lines. The Cobra has the speed but needs to carry that speed through the corner. The GT40s are more agile through those slaloms and ultimately win the day. Great effort all around and great clip!
The setup for the pass was outstanding.
Love it! Damn fine racing :)
Awsome!
Considering how different they are the Cobra was impressive.
I'm not really a race guy, but I was starting to get nervous wondering when they would pass him. Fun to watch!
Thanks for some memorable. #6 looks a little more nervous than the other two.
When the GT 40 was being developed. I read an article about the performance on the track. They were working on the chassis and suspension...A test driver took around the course and when he " pitted " he mentioned how , at 200 mph, the car was a little " loose"....This was back in the late 60s or early 70s.
Which brand is the yellow car in front of them ?
Love these cars. Been fortunate to see several at vintage events. But…..what is the yellow car ahead of them that they aren’t catching?
This was an epic battle. I'd love to see this kinda racing today.
Having never seen a Cobra and a GT40 on the track at the same time, I did not know GT 40s were so small!
The Cobra is actually more voluminous than the GT40! Crazy!
I love how squirrelly the cobra is barely hanging on. Credit to all 3 drivers
Cobra: D:
GT40s: :D
Guy in the the cobra like guyssss we on the same team remember, I made you!
😂
Both the Cobras and GT40s are beautiful race cars and both the drivers are faster than almost all other regular people on earth.
Once the GT40 was able to pass and didn't have to keep riding his brakes, you could see him easily pulling away.
Awesome skill of the Cobra driver 👍 using his powerful engine to accelerate this huge and heavy car out of the turns. The Ferraris were better at braking and turning. Awesome to see a roadster being a challenge for optimized, stream-lined race cars.
Cobras are not heavy cars
The Real MVP is the tires on that Cobra 😉
Now this is racing… I can watch THIS
Be nice if they told us about the individual cars. The body of the Cobra doesn't seem wide enough at the wheel openings to be a 427 car but has the 427 exhaust. It is also twitchy in the turns which leads you to think it's nose heavy as well. However the 427 competition Cobras had 600 horsepower and should easily catch a 289 GT40 in the long straight after the chicane and it didn't. The GT40's are obviously 289mark 1 cars as they don't have the extra scoops on the rear of the car that the 427 powered cars had.
The attractive part in watching old race cars going at it, is that the looser suspension and lesser stiff bodywork combined with the sliding rear and no active traction aids but the steering dynamic of the pilot, offers the best speed sensation for the spectator. Compared to the modern race cars, these older generations seem to carry much more speed while the opposite is true. I am an all time all category grand tourist enthusiast, any type of gt racing compels me, but the older generations just have so much more drama in them.
Tire technology have changed a LOT since the 60s. The type of handling you see at Goodwood are highly based on they use "correct" vintage type race tires.
That's awesome!!
There is (almost) no substitute for cubic inches.... After 63 years of attending race meetings the Goodwood Members Meeting still draws me every year. Check out the SF Edge Trophy footage from last year. Two races for 100+ year old single seaters. The first won by 0.3 seconds, the other by 0.1 seconds.
Like a couple of cheetahs hunting down a gazelle. Just a voice over by David Attenborough to finish the picture but sorry David the V8’s on full song can’t be beaten.
Cobra forever
Fantastic! ❤ 😊
wow, I never realized how small GT40s are
Amazing how the GT40 looks big until you park it next to a tiny little cobra. It way smaller than it appears!
That Cobra driver is the man!!!!
It’s amazing just how modern the Mk1 looks
SO cool! Thank you!
I’d love to see the full race this clip was taken from. Is it posted anywhere?
It's the Gurney Cup race from 2023 Members' Meeting. The full race is uploaded on TH-cam...
@@jcgabriel1569 Thank you so much
Here you go: th-cam.com/video/4ZrC5ozS9CQ/w-d-xo.html
@@GoodwoodRR Thank you
A whole lotta $$$$$ on that track!
Gotta tip my hat to Shelby. Without him these masterpieces wouldn't exist.
These guys at Goodwood really know how to party.
You think of the Cobra as a low slung roadster until you realise that the roofline of the GT40 is only slightly taller than the scuttle of the Cobra.
Somewhere in heaven, Carroll Shelby is watching this with a big ol’ grin on his face!
Pure ford power.
It's crazy how small the GT40s look compared to the Cobra.
I thought that as well, they’re tiny!
Same thing with modern day LMP cars, you think they’re large because you don’t really have a reference, then you see them in the paddocks and they’re tiny!
El cobra a vendido cara la piel, los GT 40 son superiores aerodinámicamente y con mejor distribución de pesos y contra eso no se puede luchar, aparte que los cobra son coches muy dificiles de conducir mas cortos , estrechos y altos son contras determinantes en un circuito como ese , mención especial al piloto cobra excelente trabajo .
Real men pedalling real cars! Awesome!
GLORIOUS!
Great circuit for these types of cars
Great video
Great video. Where's Jackie Stewart calling the race?
But, none of them ever caught that yellow car...