A scene for "Fiddler on the Roof" (1971). A relationship between Russians and Jews. www.imdb.com/ti... For my dad, who always says his lines! PS: Really sorry about the audio. It wasn't like this, when I uploaded.
This is a very romantic scene - Fyedka tall, athletic & handsome but of quiet demeanour and Chava pretending to be uninterested but shyly enjoying the attention.
Chava is a somewhat overlooked but wonderful actress. The way she reacted in this scene was so believable, I felt like I was right there. The way she took the book and then finally looked at him before saying his name...
Chava likes to read and I'd bet this is the first time someone has wanted to discuss a book, life, and how she feels about things with her as an equal.
@@ghostrider2664 People from Opa Locka should comment on other pages. Take your ghetto speak to the trashy venues that you are accustomed to. This film has class. You and your ilk most certainly do not. Goodbye, bottom dweller.
I’m playing Chava in a community theatre production and OMG our Fyedka is so good (and attractive) I’m literally swooning every time we do his scene ❤️
what i find interesting is that fyedka introduces himself using a diminutive form of his name (a nickname) - his proper name is presumably fyodor. not that that's wrong or improper, just that it shows he's trying to create a sense of intimacy (familiarity) right from the start, whereas chava is hesitant to even speak to him
He is young, and very progressive. What Fiddler on the Roof doesn't mention is that he would also probably be disowned by his family for marrying a Jew. The Jews aren't the only culture with Traditions. This may be why they leave the village along with the Jews at the end of the movie.
@@harringt100 You missed the joke then. He ends the list with "modest," which means he's being ironic because an actually modest person wouldn't say that and he realizes it.
@@Window4503 I like that part. His smile , after he said it, was to make her feel at ease and to let her know that he liked her for her mind, unlike the other guys in the village.
I kind of knew I’d be a Chava. When I met my current partner, my “traditions” collapsed and opened me to a healthier relationship than I would get if I kept my “traditions”.
According to family legend, my great-great-great uncle was a Ukrainian bookbinder who apparently bought leather from his future father in law, my great-great-great aunt would deliver it. He converted to Judaism in order to marry her.
I guess I do not view him as a flat actor, I view him in character as overcoming his timidity and fear of talking to a Jewish girl which, of course, was utterly taboo. That is just my opinion, but I agree, he does not have a lot of inflection; however, I accredit that to his character and the time period. It IS a musical, but he's hardly going to pull a Fred Astaire during this first forbidden exchange. :-) Not arguing, just telling my spin on it. CHEERS! Have a safe holiday weekend...
DON'T LIE. We've ALL had crushes on Fyedka at some point or another. And what was the book? A) The Communist Manifesto B) 50 Shades of Grey C) The Book of Mormon
I have seen this scene countless times ..and I cry every time..cause love has no boundaries…the innocence of these two and the love that they feel for each other ..is beautiful…but then religion…and I’m afraid nothing has changed…unfortunately…
I played Lazar Wolf in our schools musical back in 1994 and I remember with great joy taking part in it. This play brings tears to my eyes every time I see it. So full of emotions, beautiful music and a piece of art as it is. Cherish it and enjoy it. Words cannot express how it touches me.
@@darakken well, pretty soon after the summer play, he broke up with me when he went to college lol. 9 years later and I'm engaged and finding my peace.
when chava was being attacked why couldn't her friends on the horse cart stop and say something. they were like a good ten feet away and insight of everything. what kind of friends are they?
The "ch" in Chava is a voiceless uvular fricative. It's not used in English, but it's common in German and Yiddish. You basically have to make a sound like you're choking on something.
The “ch” you speak of is more dominant in the Dutch language than in the German language. In the Dutch language pretty much every word with “ch” or “g” is pronounced like that.
It's a lovely scene but it's ain't Kosher. Nevertheless, I'm Jewish and I married a devout Catholic women and I could never have had a better wife. I was (as far as I know) the only member of my family to do that. Oh and I also got a tattoo. Life is short so do what makes you happy and the hell with what other people think.
2:31 , actually I really fall in love...i don't know how to explain, but that moment... I just... ugh... why boys like him doesn't exist in real life?!
Guys who want to read books together and talk about life and how we feel about things? We definitely exist. Oh we definitely do. But we are expected to make the first move and it is hard as a guy to know the line between persisting when a woman says she doesn’t want to talk to you and being creepy.
@@armorsmith43 I understand the pressure, but as the saying goes, "faint heart never won fair maiden". You've just got to put it out there, accepting the risk that it will always entail, knowing there will be times when you are knocked flat on your ass. But then you will succeed and it will all be worth it. Trust me, there is nothing criminal or creepy about a bit of assertiveness, especially if your feelings are true and you make them visible.
The interesting thing was that in the book she does marry fyedka and she gets rejected by her father and her community, but at the end of the book when they get evicted out of the town it was revealed that she had left fyedka and begged her father on her knees to take her back. Tevye speaks to Sholom Aleichem and leaves the answer open ended about if he had forgiven her or taken her back or not.
Fyedka was hot. I just discovered a wonderful photo of Raymond Lovelock with Japanese model Tachikawa Yuri on the cover of Elle Japan! That guy was soooooooooooooooo cute! May he RIP.
Cool scene. I bet Chava never ran into a kindly, gentle gentile man before. By avoiding eye contact as she did, Chava was only following a traditional custom among orthodox Jews. No I'm not Jewish. I learned this from some new friends who just happened to be Jewish.
Tevye actually wasn't mad at Fyedka in the book. His wrath was saved for the priest, whom he had previously been on good terms with, who baptized Chava. In the book Chava shows up without Fyedka when the Jews are driven out of Anatevka and begs Tevye to let her join them (Tzeitl also pleads with him on her behalf). The plot is left open ended, with Tevye never revealing whether he accepted Chava back into the family.
Do you feel about me the way they feel about you? No truer words. When you believe in a religion so strongly that you don't tolerate others who don't believe as you. You have lost the meaning of Gods teaching.
I just saw my school’s production of this play and one of my students (a personal favorite of mine) played Fyedka. He was a perfect fit, also had the accent because he’s a Ukrainian refugee. He was star of the show in my eyes!
Me when I see this for the first time: Hey hey hey stop messing with Chava! She’s like 16 yo, leave her alo- (Sees Fyedka) 👁👄👁 Oh...my... (teenagegirl.exe has stopped working)
What book did her lend her? Was it The Bible (I mean Second Testament) or was it, "Tale of Two Cities?" Something else? That has always stuck with me. WHAT IS THE BOOK? WHAT BOOK?
This the very 1st time (this night with Netflix)I saw any fiddler, movie clip, signing, dance, stage. Nothing never. I thought the 1971 film with topol was just too long with certain aspects done over and over. Like beating a dead horse. Sure. Songs, story etc are all revered but this 1971 film left a sour taste. Even as a catholic guy I felt I had already heard about everything in film many times. Anyways. I was disappointed. I think I would have enjoyed the stage performances better. I’ve read lots about Jews in Russia. Just because.
DAWWWW I LOVE THIS SCENE. I love unloved pairings...this is my favorite pairing in the play. Too bad the audio is a little off but that's bound to happen I mean it's youtube.
something suddenly occurred to me after growing up loving this movie. I think the reason why chava was a little bit hesitant of talking to fydka was because she did not want any Jews to see her talking to a Christian man. if tavia had found out what chava had been up to there's no telling what might have happened.
"Go ahead. Take the book."
(and my heart)
This is a golden comment.
The " mutts " are the best and the brightest. I know- I'm one. 😂
This is a very romantic scene - Fyedka tall, athletic & handsome but of quiet demeanour and Chava pretending to be uninterested but shyly enjoying the attention.
Lol. He's like a character from one of her beloved books.
She looked at him like she got hit with a lightning bolt. She wanted him but wanted to be chased.
@@map3384 Too innocent for any of those thoughts
@@sampuatisamuel9785 BS. Both my grandmother and wife who were 16 fell for my grandfather and me.
@@map3384 how did your wife fall for your grandfather and you? 😂
I don't have high standards in men because of Disney.
I have high standards in men because of Fyedka.
I played fyedka in the musical and let me just say it was the time of a lift time I loved the musical
This
Yes, Ray Lovelock was very handsome and talented
Chava is a somewhat overlooked but wonderful actress. The way she reacted in this scene was so believable, I felt like I was right there. The way she took the book and then finally looked at him before saying his name...
Rip Ray Lovelook, actor of Fyedka, he passed away in November
Yes, I read about that in Wikipedia. He was only 67. Does anyone know what he died from?
it was cancer
But here they are still so young :(
His surname is his role
*Lovelock.
I like Chava's facial expressions when he's talking to her. First curious, then intrigued and finally smitten.
She does seem to get to "smitten" rather quickly, doesn't she?
Chava likes to read and I'd bet this is the first time someone has wanted to discuss a book, life, and how she feels about things with her as an equal.
The way Fyedka described himself, my thoughts went “What a Tinder bio” 😂
Before touching the book, she looks both ways to make good and sure no Jews are watching. Or anyone else for that matter.
Ohhh man so forbidden. But as we now know, Chava liked to get her freak on...
@@ghostrider2664 People from Opa Locka should comment on other pages. Take your ghetto speak to the trashy venues that you are accustomed to. This film has class. You and your ilk most certainly do not. Goodbye, bottom dweller.
I’m playing Chava in a community theatre production and OMG our Fyedka is so good (and attractive) I’m literally swooning every time we do his scene ❤️
Luckyyyy
Lucky you!
'Do you feel about me the way they feel about you? I did not think you would.'
Perhaps the best response to ingrained prejudices ever made.
Well said!
what i find interesting is that fyedka introduces himself using a diminutive form of his name (a nickname) - his proper name is presumably fyodor. not that that's wrong or improper, just that it shows he's trying to create a sense of intimacy (familiarity) right from the start, whereas chava is hesitant to even speak to him
Not to mention that he would normally have called himself Fedor Ivanovich (or whatever his patronymic is).
He is young, and very progressive. What Fiddler on the Roof doesn't mention is that he would also probably be disowned by his family for marrying a Jew. The Jews aren't the only culture with Traditions.
This may be why they leave the village along with the Jews at the end of the movie.
@@EtzEchad Instead she is rejected by her Father for having anything to do with a gentile and a Christian.
@@corvus1374 well, probably not to a peer, especially a girl.
@@moliereVSshakespeare One he has never met?
I love the way he puts her at ease with a bit of self-deprecating humor.
Self-exalting, more like.
@@harringt100 You missed the joke then. He ends the list with "modest," which means he's being ironic because an actually modest person wouldn't say that and he realizes it.
@@Window4503
I like that part. His smile , after he said it, was to make her feel at ease and to let her know that he liked her for her mind, unlike the other guys in the village.
As a Byzantine Catholic gal,
meeting a cute Christian Orthodox boy on an old Russian country road would be a dream come true 🙃♥️😄
For this British Anglican gal too! 😁
Well, there is always " Geary " in SF proper. 😂
I kind of knew I’d be a Chava. When I met my current partner, my “traditions” collapsed and opened me to a healthier relationship than I would get if I kept my “traditions”.
According to family legend, my great-great-great uncle was a Ukrainian bookbinder who apparently bought leather from his future father in law, my great-great-great aunt would deliver it. He converted to Judaism in order to marry her.
Wow, that sound like a great story!
Such true stories probably answer for the many blonde blue eyed Jewish people, from Eastern and Central Europe.
Yes
Why does this man remind me of Wesley from the Princess Bride
It's the hair and farm boy look!
He even sounds like him.
OMG, he does. " As you wish, Khavale my dearest! " 😂
He is so CUTE!! I have a major crush on him. I loved how he talked to her about the book!! 😍😍
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One of my great aunt, back in 1630, did a Chava'le drill and elope with a gentil Hungarian guy. 400 years later, we still remember her. 😂
😂 7?
As you should 😂
I guess I do not view him as a flat actor, I view him in character as overcoming his timidity and fear of talking to a Jewish girl which, of course, was utterly taboo. That is just my opinion, but I agree, he does not have a lot of inflection; however, I accredit that to his character and the time period. It IS a musical, but he's hardly going to pull a Fred Astaire during this first forbidden exchange. :-) Not arguing, just telling my spin on it. CHEERS! Have a safe holiday weekend...
DON'T LIE. We've ALL had crushes on Fyedka at some point or another.
And what was the book?
A) The Communist Manifesto
B) 50 Shades of Grey
C) The Book of Mormon
HEY HALILI TAKE A LOOK AT THIS
Jews make the best Mormons!
I headcanon the book was along the lines of Shakespeare.
If you want the Capitalism Callout Post, go look at Perchik.
definitely a book of mormon. looks just like one
Sarcastic Sugar
Some old classic that their uncorrupted minds could appreciate.
damn fyedka has game. but those bad guys set him up -- good wing men, kind of.
The sweet man who played Fyedka died young in real life of Cancer. So sad!
67 isn't that young
loving makes us break boundaries and brings us closer to our humanity in others
I have seen this scene countless times ..and I cry every time..cause love has no boundaries…the innocence of these two and the love that they feel for each other ..is beautiful…but then religion…and I’m afraid nothing has changed…unfortunately…
......that boy is beautiful... 'Nuff said
I will always remember this scene as probably my favorite of the movie. Two beautiful souls meeting and speaking for the first time.
When you’re Fyedka and Chava at the same time. Respectable and full of well-intentioned ideas and feelings, but too shy and cautious.
I played Lazar Wolf in our schools musical back in 1994 and I remember with great joy taking part in it. This play brings tears to my eyes every time I see it. So full of emotions, beautiful music and a piece of art as it is. Cherish it and enjoy it. Words cannot express how it touches me.
"I'm a pleasant fellow..."
SO CUTE! I love these two!
XD
he's so hot i cry
@@mizzyroro An Italian sounding name together with this comment. Why am I not surprised one bit?
@@Arcaryon What's in a name? Thank you for taking the time to appreciate my work.
Fyedka is such a kind-hearted babe! He reminds me of Luke Skywalker 😍
I didn't realize it at fist, but same!
Heehee, I'm Chava in my community's theater summer show, and my boyfriend just so happens to be Fyedka c:
how'd that go
@@darakken well, pretty soon after the summer play, he broke up with me when he went to college lol. 9 years later and I'm engaged and finding my peace.
No I am
@@helloimellieful Don't feel bad, Chava and Fyedka broke up as well.
@@josephpostma1787 wait for real?! How do you know????
"I'd like to talk to you." "I'd rather not." No means no. end play.
This is the best pickup of all time that guy shows us how it's done
when chava was being attacked
why couldn't her friends on the horse cart stop and say something.
they were like a good ten feet away and insight of everything.
what kind of friends are they?
Reshme bruh, how tf they gonna save her and the cow in time. Besides if she lost the cow she'd be worse than dead anyways
I believe the Jewish population lived in fear of the pograms,
Well in the play they were on foot and off stage by the time the boys come along. Possibly in a shop.
Ya they were mean to me in tell
Checks came 😊😊😊😊
Gotta love his confidence!
He was in the moment he got her to laugh.
I'm her
Poor girl. She couldn't resist a speech like that.
Thanks
He is an Orthodox Christian
Roman 🅱enis
@Roman So inaccurate it is hilarious!
@Roman True. I would say that the Catholic, Orthodox, and Episcopalian churches were all the true form of Christianity
@Abir Almoznino It is his/her belief, don't be rude
@@stefanieprejean6609 There's no such thing as a "true form of Christianity" they're all just different sects and churches.
The "ch" in Chava is a voiceless uvular fricative. It's not used in English, but it's common in German and Yiddish. You basically have to make a sound like you're choking on something.
oldbluescott
A k that starts too far back and doesn't make it out?
The way I explain it is if you were snoring, but snoring out instead of in.
It's such a cute choke though 😂
The “ch” you speak of is more dominant in the Dutch language than in the German language. In the Dutch language pretty much every word with “ch” or “g” is pronounced like that.
Common in German and Yiddish? And I thought it was foremost a Hebrew name.
The cow is the ideal prop for a nascent courtship between a young man and woman in a farming community.
Yes the cow was a paid actor
aww! I want a cow
dani b a nice barrier 😂
This was so cute :)
why is he so charming and convincing. i think i just fell in love with him♡
I'm that's your mean
Chava
I feel crazy but hey Fyedka is one hot guy....
wow what a good film, no hook ups, talking about the body inappropriately, what a nice way to talk to one another, no games either.
...let me tell you about myself.
I'm a pleasant fellow"
Played Chava for the last 3 nightsand this was my favourite scene. Going to miss playing her so much
No I was her
She’s such a fun character to play! Act 2 is definitely difficult emotionally if you get into everything in a certain way haha
And this is how they intermingled with the gentiles ; )) a little push and pull...poetry and reading.
"Let me tell you about myself... I'm a pleasant fellow,"
OMG, save it for Craigslist and stop talking about yourself. lol
oh come on,dont do that,this is cute :(
😂
That’s how every sociopath would introduce himself.
Confident men are better then soy men.
Aww, but he ended with 'very modest'. 😂
That cow is enormously patient.. Cute and lovely
yes that cow is a wonderful actress and a good protector of Chava cause animals are a gift from God :)
Paid actor
“They mean no harm”, “no, thank you”.
Two people living in a world where no one else shares their feelings.
I loved his hair color.
Fyedka: "Oh, I'm in there."
It's a lovely scene but it's ain't Kosher. Nevertheless, I'm Jewish and I married a devout Catholic women and I could never have had a better wife. I was (as far as I know) the only member of my family to do that. Oh and I also got a tattoo. Life is short so do what makes you happy and the hell with what other people think.
Sadly!
"May He send you husbands who will care for you." Along comes Fyedka. "Fuck no, you can't marry him! He's a Gentile! I have no daughter!"
Your forgetting one of the other lines in the prayer, "strengthen them, O Lord, and keep them from the strangers ways."
Communists, on the other hand, are OK! Go figure!
@@KansanWolf thats before anyone knew what it’d turn into
True
Lol
Ray Lovelock, RIP
Please take this Book of Mormon. Heh!
That made me lol.
Haha
This book will change your LIFE! The Book of Mooooooooooormonnnnnnnn, Mooooooooooormonnnnnnnn!
I'm a Mormon and your comment made me laugh my butt off. *high fives*
true, that's how mormon's work
WTF is wrong with the boys beside Fyedka! I am Hodel in a school production
I can see how she decided to go off with that one. He looks like a Greek god.
his first words to her. "They mean no harm"
Chava: "lets get married"
😂😂😂😂
Tevye: No!
Chava: Papa!
Tevye: No!
I'm auditioning for fyedka in a play in 2 days
Hey
Me to
2:31 , actually I really fall in love...i don't know how to explain, but that moment... I just... ugh... why boys like him doesn't exist in real life?!
and don't talk about 2:59, his look.... he's so cute!!!
Guys who want to read books together and talk about life and how we feel about things? We definitely exist. Oh we definitely do.
But we are expected to make the first move and it is hard as a guy to know the line between persisting when a woman says she doesn’t want to talk to you and being creepy.
@@armorsmith43 I'm talking about how handsome Lovelock was.
@@armorsmith43 I understand the pressure, but as the saying goes, "faint heart never won fair maiden". You've just got to put it out there, accepting the risk that it will always entail, knowing there will be times when you are knocked flat on your ass. But then you will succeed and it will all be worth it. Trust me, there is nothing criminal or creepy about a bit of assertiveness, especially if your feelings are true and you make them visible.
@@Vesnicie you are definitely correct.
This is so cute I died
How are you alive
Yo how's the afterlife
Say hello to Fruma Sarah
Say hello to Fyedka for he has passed on.
I adore showing how one feels, the genuine care.
Fyedka = swoon.
The interesting thing was that in the book she does marry fyedka and she gets rejected by her father and her community, but at the end of the book when they get evicted out of the town it was revealed that she had left fyedka and begged her father on her knees to take her back. Tevye speaks to Sholom Aleichem and leaves the answer open ended about if he had forgiven her or taken her back or not.
That is interesting, but I regret knowing it at the same time.
Oh yeah, he's good!!!! And so cute. If Chava hadn't taken him I would have
Well I did
I’m going to use his pickups lines when I hit on girls at the bar...I’m a pleasant fellow, modest... lol
Thank you for uploading this. One of my fav scenes from the movie.
i play fyedka in my school musical :)
I dunno, pretty shitty of him to compare "outright bigotry" to "being wary of a member of a group that's only expressed outright bigotry towards you"
When people talked about books often :)
Fyedka was hot. I just discovered a wonderful photo of Raymond Lovelock with Japanese model Tachikawa Yuri on the cover of Elle Japan! That guy was soooooooooooooooo cute! May he RIP.
I love chava and fyedka
I just finished playing Fyedka for my high school, I'm going to miss him so much 😭
OMG really!? That's really cute!
Cool scene. I bet Chava never ran into a kindly, gentle gentile man before. By avoiding eye contact as she did, Chava was only following a traditional custom among orthodox Jews. No I'm not Jewish. I learned this from some new friends who just happened to be Jewish.
Tevye actually wasn't mad at Fyedka in the book. His wrath was saved for the priest, whom he had previously been on good terms with, who baptized Chava. In the book Chava shows up without Fyedka when the Jews are driven out of Anatevka and begs Tevye to let her join them (Tzeitl also pleads with him on her behalf). The plot is left open ended, with Tevye never revealing whether he accepted Chava back into the family.
1:38-1:39. Good job,Chava.
A pretty film. Should be seen on a theater screen with a good sound system.
I was born in 1963. This came out in 1972 and was one of the first movies I ever saw.
Her name is Chava but its like hava
Do you feel about me the way they feel about you? No truer words. When you believe in a religion so strongly that you don't tolerate others who don't believe as you. You have lost the meaning of Gods teaching.
I just saw my school’s production of this play and one of my students (a personal favorite of mine) played Fyedka. He was a perfect fit, also had the accent because he’s a Ukrainian refugee. He was star of the show in my eyes!
Give him my love- I'm Ukrainian as well. But we came to the States in 1980.
saw this scene performed live, the other guys where a lot creepier in the version I went to
Would anyone knows what this Chava's cow breed is?
Sorta looks like a red Holstein, but I'm not totally sure
fikkentag This is a red Holstein.
fikkentag This is a red Holstein.
Michael Dunetz
Seems about half the size of our Holsteins. I'd say it's a breed way older than our modern cows.
... this was filmed in the 70s, so uhh, it is a modern cow. it's just young
How sweet and cute
Me when I see this for the first time: Hey hey hey stop messing with Chava! She’s like 16 yo, leave her alo-
(Sees Fyedka)
👁👄👁
Oh...my...
(teenagegirl.exe has stopped working)
Lots of people start dating at 16. How is that weird. he is the same age group.
What book did her lend her? Was it The Bible (I mean Second Testament) or was it, "Tale of Two Cities?" Something else? That has always stuck with me. WHAT IS THE BOOK? WHAT BOOK?
Something written by this guy, who was a Jew who converted to Christianity.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinrich_Heine
This the very 1st time (this night with Netflix)I saw any fiddler, movie clip, signing, dance, stage. Nothing never. I thought the 1971 film with topol was just too long with certain aspects done over and over. Like beating a dead horse. Sure. Songs, story etc are all revered but this 1971 film left a sour taste. Even as a catholic guy I felt I had already heard about everything in film many times. Anyways. I was disappointed. I think I would have enjoyed the stage performances better. I’ve read lots about Jews in Russia. Just because.
DAWWWW I LOVE THIS SCENE. I love unloved pairings...this is my favorite pairing in the play. Too bad the audio is a little off but that's bound to happen I mean it's youtube.
I played him in our high schools musical one year. So fun
I'm was chava
:)
In that play
I hate to think what tevia would have done if he had been walking by and saw his daughter talking to a Christian man.
He would have flipped his lid.
something suddenly occurred to me after growing up loving this movie.
I think the reason why chava was a little bit hesitant of talking to fydka was because she did not want any Jews to see her talking to a Christian man. if tavia had found out what chava had been up to there's no telling what might have happened.
Daryl mimicking Chava again from 1:58-2:02 for the same reason. "No. Thank you."
Its not a movie about relations between Russians and Jews, its about Ukrainians and Jews
I think it is here now it's dry wine faceted with wet backed hair second series'settlement. My second father was kruschev
It's a great scene, but he's a terrible actor.
^L^ AWWWWWW fyetka is such a sweetie!
Talking about books :)
Chava. That man's looks is Maureen kruschev father of the second house where the Russian lived nearby hospice
I love that scene. 🌈