I'm glad Michael Smith finally said what I've been thinking: how is Urban Meyer's behavior acceptable at any level? People keep saying he needs to stick to college, but honestly, if that's how he treats people, he needs to stick to unemployment.
I've been in coaching for 20+ years and I've heard that Meyer was a piece of crap guy and now we finally have proof. The sad thing is he may have ruined that chances for other college coaches to go pro. Character is everything and a lot of people have forgotten this
Michael Smith nailed it. Paul Finebaum knew it and said it months ago . Apparently a lot of people who really knew Urban Meyer knew it. This was an avoidable train wreck.
Michael Smith nailed this. Nobody, not one single person deserves to be treated the way it is alleged Urban treated people. This simply cannot exist in 2021.
You said the magic word there at the end, Michael Smith: Leadership. The thing you need to understand, though, is that you don’t have to be a good leader when you exercise significant control over somebody’s life. Urban Meyer, legendary college football coach, never had to develop real leadership skills. And he was never self-aware enough to understand the difference between being feared and being respected, which is why his method of conducting interpersonal relationships didn’t transfer to the NFL.
I will say im currently in season 7 of my franchise and urban got ran out season 3. The spread (his offensive system) does NOT WORK in the pros 🤷 Trevor has been a probowl qb since he left tho
College football is totally different than the pros. Meyers was spoiled at UF and OSU when he was able to recruit the best players in the Nation. Having the best players doesn’t make coaching hard since the system is rigged. The smaller programs do not recruit the same level of athletes and normally get killed when they play the blue blood programs. In the NFL every team has great athletes so at the NFL coaches have to do a better job of coaching their players. Plus in the NFL coaches are coaching men, not college athletes.
And the players in college don’t have contracts so his will is law and he could be the little tin pot dictator that his ego demands. I didn’t follow his career but it seems when he was faced with the different reality of the NFL his pouty, sulking, passive aggressive brattiness became manifest. More in line with a three year old than a mature adult.
At one time, at least, Meyer was a genuinely great (college) coach and not just for recruiting. He made Bowling Green into a top-25 team and built Utah up from an absolute nothing-happening program to a BCS buster and eventually in position to become a power-5 team that could well win the Rose Bowl in a few days as I'm typing this. Possibly the scheme advantage he once had has passed him by.
I wish people would remember. Meyer never truly build a program. It takes longer than the two year he stayed at Bowling Green and Utah. It's not like Florida or Ohio State were bottom feeders programs. Easy to recruit to get top talent for Florida or OSU when those schools were top 10 programs before he got there. Which QB has he developed outside of super intelligent Alex Smith at Utah, who was ready to play in the NFL or showed they could play in the NFL? Tebow? The guy who set the SEC career rushing TDs? Justin Smith showed up at OSU after Meyer left. But he was expected to develop the Jags generational QB, Lawrence.
I'm sad Urban Meyer's gone. This has been the most entertaining NFL train wreck since Days of Our Steelers and every gaffe has been amazing and wonderful.
Smith called it. There wasn't really incompetence in Meyer's character, it was complete indifference after he realized it wasn't gonna be a cakewalk. So he lashed out at players and coaches, and publicly showed disinterest in the operations. He's shown in the past that he's not interested in adversity
Somebody needs to go tell his sheltered little princess of a daughter that just because he treats his family well doesn't mean he treats everybody else well and all of his words about “family” and being a “good person” are just wasted wind when his actions are the antithesis of a decent man and coach. Its clear he is an arrogant and prideful man who attempted to dictate to that teams as opposed to working with them and leading them.
@@SR-hf3hx Right? Like how crazy is she? Just as delusional as him it seems. You know this is also how he treated those college kids and they, not knowing any better, stood and took the derision yet when he came up against grown men, professionals... he was revealed for the small man he seems to be
@@corvus2512 if you watch college football he's been this way for years....and we all every one of us treat outsiders different than our loved ones ...so she's clueless
I hope Eric Bieniemy has the self respect to tell the Jags to pound sand when they inevitably come begging to hire him. They took Urban Meyer over him. The jags are getting what they deserve.
Urban Meyer has always been this way. He left Florida a mess and bailed out and did the same thing with Ohio State but found out that the NFL is for real men and he ain't one. No wonder Notre Dame never went after him as their coach character does matter at least at some schools.
@@vo2897 I meant that Meyer was suspended for 3 games because he lied about knowing his assistant coach was beating his wife. Most universities would have fired him right then and there but schools like Ohio State care more about winning at any cost.
Rumors are that they were interested in Urban once, but after they met Urban, Urban set down so many demands/stipulations, ND will never be interested in Urban again.
Urban Meyer managed to cause a full scale rift and got players and his own coaches against him. Really awful behavior, no player should ever be treated like Josh Lambo.
Yes, it was harder than he thought it would be--and he checked out a couple weeks ago. So he's also a quitter. He's so arrogant that he thought he was also better than 90% of NFL coaches too. That he couldn't immediately realize the total difference of environment--that his BIGGEST skill, RECRUITING, has no value in the NFL. So...it's also a guy who, over the years slowly came to believe all of his own headlines and invincibility. Michael might have a point about self-destructiveness--intergalactic-level narcissists tend to have a lot of self-hatred.
The abusive behavior of Urban Meyer is the same as what Greg Schiano did to his players at Tampa Bay. This kind of shyt happens in college football but it will not fly in the NFL. Not surprisingly, when Schiano got booted by TB, he spend some time at OSU with Urban Meyer.
He's proven time and time again wherever he's been, that he's a lousy human being. He's LITERALLY exaggerated/faked health problems that conveniently flared up just when things hit the fan. Did that in Gainesville and Columbus. That is shameful.... and then this Jags ordeal was an utter disaster from an off field standpoint. Only further cementing what we all already knew.
I can't wait for the urban Meyer movie. Tim Tebow will be played by Chris Hemsworth, Khan will be played by Sasha Baron Cohen, and Meyer will be played by a leather couch that was left out in the Sun.
He never should have been hired, there is an active collegiate coach, very successful in College as well as the NFL by the name of Jim freaking Harbough, he should have been brought back into the league long before Urban, because his resume included being great at all levels in football.
Tim Tebow didn't fail. He took his team to the playoffs and won a playoff game. He is the only QB to do so & never start another game. The NFL failed him.
Everyone is so suprised at Urbam Meyer. If you followed the college game for the past 15 years, you already knew he was a tool. He had issues at both Ohio State and Florida with player relationships/conduct
I liked that Michael downplayed the "college coaches can't hack it in the NFL" aspect. I know there's something to that, but it's not impossible for a college coach to also win at the NFL level--Jimmy Johnson did it. Jim Harbaugh did it (and would have an NFL job again this immediate offseason if he made himself available). Pete Carroll...granted, he was an NFL coach first, but he had success at both levels. Butch Davis isn't going to be mistaken for Vince Lombardi, but for decades he was the only Browns coach to actually get them into the playoffs. Even Nick Saban gets more of an "incomplete" than an outright failing grade.
At least Chris Peterson had the balls to give it up when he lost passion for it. Urban Meyer never impressed upon me that he had passion for the game this go around. Regardless if you are coaching junior high school football or pro football, it starts with passion. He literally looked like he didn’t want to be there. A coach who chose not to travel home with is team… I honestly could care less the reason, coaches travel home with the team - especially after a loss. Because that is what great coaches do.
College coaches that have NFL experience are eligible like Jim Harbaugh or even Shaw from Stanford, Even Ryan day coaches with no experience or not eligible for hire in NFL that is the new rule. They were talking about changing rules after the Urban fireing.
1) He discovered it was going to be a lot of work - much more than he originally guessed 2) He was paid too much money up front 3) meh... I'd rather just retire Watch Troy Aikman talk about Barry Switzer if you need more clues
The trouble with NFL owners is that most of them (and this may or may not apply to Shad Khan) have become successful through being arrogant, good luck, being exploitative and surrounding themselves with yes-men. When it comes to interview time, they don't recognise what real talent or leadership is because they've never had it.
I am not going to give either one of these guys have passed I have been saying this about Urban Meyer since he was the coach at Florida and he ran and sat for a year because of a heart condition when the real issue was there was talent coming down there and he did not want to compete come to Ohio State recruiting low character people and low character people coaching these kids I had people laughing at me when I was talking about the character of this man and now y'all want to bring this up he's been this way
Trevor Lawrence can't do a QB Sneak, Zach Wilson can't complete a screen pass... Oh yeah, these organizations are doing a GREAT job developing major talent. (sigh)
He's been a no good for years it was only a matter of time before everyone finally saw it....most people don't watch college football like that, nfl is king...if you watched college at all over the last 15 years you already knew
I watched college regularly especially during Urban’a heyday. The biggest red flags that anyone should have known was his Florida teams. Something like half of his starters were in trouble with the law.
@@sasquatchhunter86 a lot of people do watch college I love it ...but nfl everyone I talk to is into that....anyway you're right florida was a disaster...3 dozen kids arrested...and Aaron hernandez wasn't one of them lol meanwhile he allegedly shot at someone and broke a bar managers eardrum while he was there
There are college coaches who do find success in the NFL. Pete Carrol is a good example of that. He left USC to take the head coaching job in Seattle and the man has won a Super Bowl and has played in the Super Bowl twice. Some coaches have what it takes and some don't. Urban clearly don't have what it takes. Even Nick Saban who many believe is the best college coach of all time failed with the Miami Dolphins. But there are coaches who was able to make the jump and find success but you just have to find that diamond in the rough pretty much..
2:12 not exactly. Those programs definitely exceeded partly because of Urban Meyer. He was not a liability. Maybe he was a bad guy at those places too but they did not exceed in spite of him. He is not an idiot who doesn't know football. He seems to know a lot of football and be a control freak obsessed with winning.
@@declass9481 I understand that and realize it is a possibility. I think that Urban Meyer has messed up a lot and deserves criticism, however, it would be wrong to discount him as a bad college coach or poor football mind. To me, his excellence at building college football teams is an important part of his story. His lack of character combined with his success as a coach over multiple programs is really the interesting part of his story.
URBAN MEYER made a player lift a 45 lb weight for complaining about being hurt so during a game this kid had to lift 45 lb plate for an entire game with his bad shoulder.....this player had to go to the ER, ALMOST LOST HIS SHOULDER......THIS WAS AT FLORIDA......URBAN MEYER SHOULD BE IN PRISON FOR THE CRAP HE HAS DONE TO COLLEGE KIDS....
I think it is a cautionary tale for our colleges and parents sending their children off to college. A lot of kids only see a way out of moonshine, gangs and abuse through scholarships, the military or other ways to get out and never come back. These kinds of people can destroy the only chance a lot of kids have. For that matter parents need to take extra looks at teachers and coaches from all grades, not just college. Jeff Sandusky anyone?
He’s a terrible coach and leader. But a great car salesman. That’s why he won in college and similar to why saban is so great in college but failed in NFL. They can win when they out recruit and have so much talent. NFL you gotta be able to coach
Does this (/should this) epic spectacular faceplant, hurt his chances of getting back to collage football? or is all forgiven & forgotten as he probably starts winning (due to previous recruiters etc)??
I'm glad Michael Smith finally said what I've been thinking: how is Urban Meyer's behavior acceptable at any level? People keep saying he needs to stick to college, but honestly, if that's how he treats people, he needs to stick to unemployment.
Rabid Buckeye here. Grew up half an hr from Urban, and couldn't agree more.
I've been in coaching for 20+ years and I've heard that Meyer was a piece of crap guy and now we finally have proof. The sad thing is he may have ruined that chances for other college coaches to go pro. Character is everything and a lot of people have forgotten this
@@rpm324 i don't think he ruined the chances for other college coaches at all. Rhule and Kingsbury are still top 10 coaches in the NFL right now.
I'll be honest with you, at Urban Meyers age, he probably can retire
@@LucasFerreira-cq8qz Rhule isn't even guaranteed to be back in Carolina next season tbf.
Nah he really said " I fired up madden 22 just to fire him again" 😂😂😂😂
Incredible 🤣
Epic.
It would probably glitch out and put him as head coach for every team
My man
Michael Smith made me laugh the hardest I’ve laughed in a while. “First of all, let me just tell you how happy I am…”
He Started off with a bang 😂😂😂
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He never has been one to pull punches love it
@@dornshammer I honestly can’t remember when he has. He gets fired up sometimes but usually he’s pretty chill.
Lol, I had the same reaction 😂
Both his firing and Michael's double down made me happy😂
Michael Smith is absolutely right !!!. People need to recognize the circumstances
Right. I can’t think of a single good coach who doesn’t recognize his/her circumstances and adapt to them.
Michael Smith nailed it. Paul Finebaum knew it and said it months ago . Apparently a lot of people who really knew Urban Meyer knew it. This was an avoidable train wreck.
Michael Smith nailed this. Nobody, not one single person deserves to be treated the way it is alleged Urban treated people. This simply cannot exist in 2021.
Not just 2021. Ever
"alleged"
Major college Football programs would be to have Urban Meyer, as their College Football Coach. Yes, he's an Ahole.
@@hugh-jasole Meyer's own lawyers admitted Urban kicked Lambo.
@@hugh-jasole lol yea sure. It’s all a rumor…..
Rich has to think he's dreaming...Michigan in the playoff, and Myers getting fired.
You said the magic word there at the end, Michael Smith: Leadership. The thing you need to understand, though, is that you don’t have to be a good leader when you exercise significant control over somebody’s life. Urban Meyer, legendary college football coach, never had to develop real leadership skills. And he was never self-aware enough to understand the difference between being feared and being respected, which is why his method of conducting interpersonal relationships didn’t transfer to the NFL.
It’s easy to bully 19 year olds. It kindve blows my mind how much of a farce college football is compared to the nfl
well said
"Urban Meyer failed in the NFL because he lacks characters". That is as true of a statement about the situation as can be said.
This caught me off guard, I was expecting meyer’s “health issues” to show up again
I’m surprised he didn’t try to throw a “i was not fired, my health is my first priority”
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We will see if it happens
lol that would've happened after the season but he didn't make it that far
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That’s his go to for leaving
Oh, he has “health issues”
Madden 22 fire urban Meyer I’m done 😂😂😂
Priceless
I will say im currently in season 7 of my franchise and urban got ran out season 3. The spread (his offensive system) does NOT WORK in the pros 🤷 Trevor has been a probowl qb since he left tho
It's only a simulation but still funny to see lol
@@adrianguinn3331 😂😂😂
Love Michael out here telling it how it is
the person michael smith described is exactly who urban meyer has always been. I am glad that it is finally out in the open for all to see
Urban kicked the kicker. He didn't have the stones to go kick one of his D-linemen. The behaviour of a cowardly bully....
College football is totally different than the pros. Meyers was spoiled at UF and OSU when he was able to recruit the best players in the Nation. Having the best players doesn’t make coaching hard since the system is rigged. The smaller programs do not recruit the same level of athletes and normally get killed when they play the blue blood programs. In the NFL every team has great athletes so at the NFL coaches have to do a better job of coaching their players. Plus in the NFL coaches are coaching men, not college athletes.
And the players in college don’t have contracts so his will is law and he could be the little tin pot dictator that his ego demands. I didn’t follow his career but it seems when he was faced with the different reality of the NFL his pouty, sulking, passive aggressive brattiness became manifest. More in line with a three year old than a mature adult.
At one time, at least, Meyer was a genuinely great (college) coach and not just for recruiting. He made Bowling Green into a top-25 team and built Utah up from an absolute nothing-happening program to a BCS buster and eventually in position to become a power-5 team that could well win the Rose Bowl in a few days as I'm typing this. Possibly the scheme advantage he once had has passed him by.
I wish people would remember.
Meyer never truly build a program. It takes longer than the two year he stayed at Bowling Green and Utah. It's not like Florida or Ohio State were bottom feeders programs. Easy to recruit to get top talent for Florida or OSU when those schools were top 10 programs before he got there.
Which QB has he developed outside of super intelligent Alex Smith at Utah, who was ready to play in the NFL or showed they could play in the NFL? Tebow? The guy who set the SEC career rushing TDs? Justin Smith showed up at OSU after Meyer left. But he was expected to develop the Jags generational QB, Lawrence.
I LOVE the beating this snake oil salesmen is taking...
I'm sad Urban Meyer's gone. This has been the most entertaining NFL train wreck since Days of Our Steelers and every gaffe has been amazing and wonderful.
Honestly I felt like it was just getting started too lol
Mike Smith speaking truth.
Mike Smith a sorry POS
Smith called it. There wasn't really incompetence in Meyer's character, it was complete indifference after he realized it wasn't gonna be a cakewalk. So he lashed out at players and coaches, and publicly showed disinterest in the operations. He's shown in the past that he's not interested in adversity
Somebody needs to go tell his sheltered little princess of a daughter that just because he treats his family well doesn't mean he treats everybody else well and all of his words about “family” and being a “good person” are just wasted wind when his actions are the antithesis of a decent man and coach. Its clear he is an arrogant and prideful man who attempted to dictate to that teams as opposed to working with them and leading them.
I seen her post I was like how delusional is she
@@SR-hf3hx Right? Like how crazy is she? Just as delusional as him it seems. You know this is also how he treated those college kids and they, not knowing any better, stood and took the derision yet when he came up against grown men, professionals... he was revealed for the small man he seems to be
@@corvus2512 if you watch college football he's been this way for years....and we all every one of us treat outsiders different than our loved ones ...so she's clueless
Imagine the kind of crap this tool has been getting away with at college. The man obviously has a God complex.
I called out Urban Meyer years ago while he was still with the Buckeyes...a peerless x's & o's coach. Not in question. But a low-rent human being.
I wouldn’t even give him that. He had far superior talent to work with in 80-90 % of his games
I hope Eric Bieniemy has the self respect to tell the Jags to pound sand when they inevitably come begging to hire him. They took Urban Meyer over him. The jags are getting what they deserve.
Bobby Petrino: I was the worst NFL coach ever
Urban Meyer: Hold my beer because my hands are busy in this random woman's.....
Thank you Michael Smith, very well said.
Mike speaking facts
2:05 "somebody can be successful and not be a good person " bobby knight Comes to mind. But the main problem is winning cures all
Urban Meyer has always been this way. He left Florida a mess and bailed out and did the same thing with Ohio State but found out that the NFL is for real men and he ain't one. No wonder Notre Dame never went after him as their coach character does matter at least at some schools.
Ryan Day OSU
33/4 what a mess lol
@@vo2897 I meant that Meyer was suspended for 3 games because he lied about knowing his assistant coach was beating his wife. Most universities would have fired him right then and there but schools like Ohio State care more about winning at any cost.
Understood,
I was thinking about winning lol
Rumors are that they were interested in Urban once, but after they met Urban, Urban set down so many demands/stipulations, ND will never be interested in Urban again.
He thought it was like college they would hide everything and it would impress the young impressionable men . NFL is totally different world
Michael Smith has a point about it being intentional, it doesn't make sense that a person who is this successful be this incompetent 🤷♂️
It looked like he wanted out
Urban Meyer managed to cause a full scale rift and got players and his own coaches against him. Really awful behavior, no player should ever be treated like Josh Lambo.
Yes, it was harder than he thought it would be--and he checked out a couple weeks ago. So he's also a quitter. He's so arrogant that he thought he was also better than 90% of NFL coaches too. That he couldn't immediately realize the total difference of environment--that his BIGGEST skill, RECRUITING, has no value in the NFL. So...it's also a guy who, over the years slowly came to believe all of his own headlines and invincibility. Michael might have a point about self-destructiveness--intergalactic-level narcissists tend to have a lot of self-hatred.
Michael Smith is correct I never thought urban was in it for the game for the team . I hope SHAD does not pay him another penny
Unfortunately that is not how it works. He will get paid every cent of his guaranteed contract.
To bad that is not the way it works in private sector OH WELL
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Wonder if there was a morality clause.
I remember Golic once saying something like "can you think of another profession where it's OK for grown men to be yelled at?"
Uhhhh, try the military.
Or the police.
Best take.
Damn... loaded up Madden just to fire him again! lol got me rollin! LOL
I got up from the couch and DANCED when the news came across my twitter feed. Buhbye!!
I guarantee you that more and more crazy stories come out about this guy, and the #### he got away with in college football.
Can’t wait till ESPN hires him.
The abusive behavior of Urban Meyer is the same as what Greg Schiano did to his players at Tampa Bay. This kind of shyt happens in college football but it will not fly in the NFL.
Not surprisingly, when Schiano got booted by TB, he spend some time at OSU with Urban Meyer.
Meyer was never the leader of any team tbh. I hope this is seen as HIS failure not a black mark vs college coaches.
He's proven time and time again wherever he's been, that he's a lousy human being. He's LITERALLY exaggerated/faked health problems that conveniently flared up just when things hit the fan. Did that in Gainesville and Columbus. That is shameful.... and then this Jags ordeal was an utter disaster from an off field standpoint. Only further cementing what we all already knew.
Just goes to show what people will do when your coach is winning.
Like all college football coaches with long-term success, his overriding skill is primarily as a recruiter. Which has zero relevance in the NFL.
Rich was uncomfortable when Mike was killing Urbans character. His face was so funny
I can't wait for the urban Meyer movie. Tim Tebow will be played by Chris Hemsworth, Khan will be played by Sasha Baron Cohen, and Meyer will be played by a leather couch that was left out in the Sun.
lol
Savage.
But you're not wrong.
Coaches need to be the biggest cheerleaders of any teams. Good fire!!! He is not helping but dragging the team down!!
I completely blame the owner for this mess
Now the Jaguars can go back to only being talked about when someone is making a joke about them instead of a joke about their coach.
I knew we were going to fail after Urban cut TEBOW.
Urban Meyer needs a lesson in professionalism
Meyer just joined the Woody Hayes club!
Very Well Said
Josh Lambo needs a parade
Just imagine how he treats college athletes 😧
Thats what i was thinking. If he acted this bad with grown men in the NFL,
I'll bet he was a real nightmare to college kids.
I feel sorry for Urban Liars wife. Can you imagine all the crap she has put up with over the years.
Normally I am not a fan of Michael Smith , but boy did he nail this.
He never should have been hired, there is an active collegiate coach, very successful in College as well as the NFL by the name of Jim freaking Harbough, he should have been brought back into the league long before Urban, because his resume included being great at all levels in football.
The Jags' GM is Trent Baulke, the guy that ran him out of San Francisco. Jim will never work with that guy again.
Some players fail at the NFL level too- look at Johnny Manziel, Tim Tebow and Garrett Gilbert.
Yeah so what is your point
Tim Tebow didn't fail. He took his team to the playoffs and won a playoff game. He is the only QB to do so & never start another game. The NFL failed him.
Thanks captain obvious
Everyone is so suprised at Urbam Meyer. If you followed the college game for the past 15 years, you already knew he was a tool. He had issues at both Ohio State and Florida with player relationships/conduct
Urban just went to the NFL for the money
Smith talking about character is really strange, all of a sudden he’s an a angel. Remember his playing days, real class.
Totally agreed with Michael..
Lmao everyone is absolutely loving seeing this guy knocked down a peg. You reap what you sow.
"Someone can successful and not be a good person?”
Imagine that… 🙄
nailed it!
I liked that Michael downplayed the "college coaches can't hack it in the NFL" aspect. I know there's something to that, but it's not impossible for a college coach to also win at the NFL level--Jimmy Johnson did it. Jim Harbaugh did it (and would have an NFL job again this immediate offseason if he made himself available). Pete Carroll...granted, he was an NFL coach first, but he had success at both levels. Butch Davis isn't going to be mistaken for Vince Lombardi, but for decades he was the only Browns coach to actually get them into the playoffs. Even Nick Saban gets more of an "incomplete" than an outright failing grade.
At least Chris Peterson had the balls to give it up when he lost passion for it. Urban Meyer never impressed upon me that he had passion for the game this go around. Regardless if you are coaching junior high school football or pro football, it starts with passion. He literally looked like he didn’t want to be there. A coach who chose not to travel home with is team… I honestly could care less the reason, coaches travel home with the team - especially after a loss. Because that is what great coaches do.
College coaches that have NFL experience are eligible like Jim Harbaugh or even Shaw from Stanford, Even Ryan day coaches with no experience or not eligible for hire in NFL that is the new rule. They were talking about changing rules after the Urban fireing.
1) He discovered it was going to be a lot of work - much more than he originally guessed
2) He was paid too much money up front
3) meh... I'd rather just retire
Watch Troy Aikman talk about Barry Switzer if you need more clues
Wow, ouch! I'm getting the idea that Michael Smith is not a Meyer fan.
No petroleum jelly.. 😆😆😆
I respect the journalistic integrity
The trouble with NFL owners is that most of them (and this may or may not apply to Shad Khan) have become successful through being arrogant, good luck, being exploitative and surrounding themselves with yes-men. When it comes to interview time, they don't recognise what real talent or leadership is because they've never had it.
He left both Florida and OSU under a cloud.
Urban found out everyone pays their players in the pros
Why is this a surprise? At Ohio State one of his assistant coach was physically abusing his wife. The other wives new about it and did nothing.
Why is Rich trying to make excuses for him??
The problem isn't in college coaches becoming pro coaches. The problem is college *superstar head* coaches instantly becoming pro head coaches.
I think most of us already knew this about Urban Meyer,
“Once a Snake, Always a Snake”
I am not going to give either one of these guys have passed I have been saying this about Urban Meyer since he was the coach at Florida and he ran and sat for a year because of a heart condition when the real issue was there was talent coming down there and he did not want to compete come to Ohio State recruiting low character people and low character people coaching these kids I had people laughing at me when I was talking about the character of this man and now y'all want to bring this up he's been this way
Trevor Lawrence can't do a QB Sneak, Zach Wilson can't complete a screen pass... Oh yeah, these organizations are doing a GREAT job developing major talent. (sigh)
It all started when He cut TEBOW ! ! !
Believe me! There are lots of Urban Meyers out there, especially at the college level. This behavior is more normal then people think.
Now that college players get paid, he's not even going back to what he's used to.
He's been a no good for years it was only a matter of time before everyone finally saw it....most people don't watch college football like that, nfl is king...if you watched college at all over the last 15 years you already knew
I watched college regularly especially during Urban’a heyday. The biggest red flags that anyone should have known was his Florida teams. Something like half of his starters were in trouble with the law.
@@sasquatchhunter86 a lot of people do watch college I love it ...but nfl everyone I talk to is into that....anyway you're right florida was a disaster...3 dozen kids arrested...and Aaron hernandez wasn't one of them lol meanwhile he allegedly shot at someone and broke a bar managers eardrum while he was there
There are college coaches who do find success in the NFL. Pete Carrol is a good example of that. He left USC to take the head coaching job in Seattle and the man has won a Super Bowl and has played in the Super Bowl twice. Some coaches have what it takes and some don't. Urban clearly don't have what it takes. Even Nick Saban who many believe is the best college coach of all time failed with the Miami Dolphins. But there are coaches who was able to make the jump and find success but you just have to find that diamond in the rough pretty much..
He has lied everywhere he has been.
Fraud, crook, bully, and thug
2:12 not exactly. Those programs definitely exceeded partly because of Urban Meyer. He was not a liability. Maybe he was a bad guy at those places too but they did not exceed in spite of him. He is not an idiot who doesn't know football. He seems to know a lot of football and be a control freak obsessed with winning.
Those Ohio teams were also stacked, so it’s not outside the realm of possibility that it was in spite of him.
@@declass9481 I understand that and realize it is a possibility. I think that Urban Meyer has messed up a lot and deserves criticism, however, it would be wrong to discount him as a bad college coach or poor football mind. To me, his excellence at building college football teams is an important part of his story. His lack of character combined with his success as a coach over multiple programs is really the interesting part of his story.
Very well said. Sad thing is a prick like that would probably keep his job if he was winning.
URBAN MEYER made a player lift a 45 lb weight for complaining about being hurt so during a game this kid had to lift 45 lb plate for an entire game with his bad shoulder.....this player had to go to the ER, ALMOST LOST HIS SHOULDER......THIS WAS AT FLORIDA......URBAN MEYER SHOULD BE IN PRISON FOR THE CRAP HE HAS DONE TO COLLEGE KIDS....
I echo Michael Smith's sentiments!
As long as you win, all bad conduct is excused.
Can't be a shock to anyone
Truly terrible hire
I think it is a cautionary tale for our colleges and parents sending their children off to college. A lot of kids only see a way out of moonshine, gangs and abuse through scholarships, the military or other ways to get out and never come back. These kinds of people can destroy the only chance a lot of kids have.
For that matter parents need to take extra looks at teachers and coaches from all grades, not just college. Jeff Sandusky anyone?
Pride comes before a fall.
I take no pleasure in being correct. With that said, told you so!
There are a lot of similarities between Meyer and Nick Saban in their Pro Football time.
more like Bobby Petrino. People forget Saban left. He definitely could have stayed another season in Miami
He went 9-7, 7-9, and he left. His player liked him as well. Saban left because he wanted too not because he had to
@@skippythealien9627 well Petrino left too
@@skippythealien9627 yes, I guess thats more of an appropriate comparison
@@Drewitall54 yes, your correct. A better comparison
Meyer must have done this crap before, the schools just ignored it.
He is correct!
He’s a terrible coach and leader. But a great car salesman. That’s why he won in college and similar to why saban is so great in college but failed in NFL. They can win when they out recruit and have so much talent. NFL you gotta be able to coach
Reminds me of GeorgeConstnza trying to get fired by the Yankees so he could work for the Mets. He dragged the WS trophy behind the car.
Does this (/should this) epic spectacular faceplant, hurt his chances of getting back to collage football? or is all forgiven & forgotten as he probably starts winning (due to previous recruiters etc)??
The fucc nuts will welcome him back with open arms within a year... just days after Day loses to Harbaugh again next yr.