I have a 67 400 firebird my mother bought new on may 28, 1967. I was with her and she was about to buy a 326 2bbl with powerglide, AC and vinyl top. A truckload of new cars came in and there it sat, a red 400/turbo400 and it was slightly cheaper than the 326 car. I told my mom to get the red one instead and thank God she listened. It had no AC but did have the 400 HO engine with 670 heads. It also had monoleaf springs and a single traction bar. I still own it to this day. I was 5yo the day she bought it and I inherited it 10 years later.
I have a '67 Firebird 400 convertible. My grandfather bought it new in 67 for my grandmother who never drove it because it has a 3 speed, manual steering, manual brakes. My grandfather died in 1997 and my grandmother gave me the car about 7 years ago. I have the original wheel covers and the dealer plate frame. Has a factory installed tach on the hood.
Nice car and video. I've owned four 1968 Firebirds, two Sprints, one 350, and one 400. I sold my last one in the late 80s, but not a year goes by that I don't think about getting another one. A very simple quick and dirty way to confirm if your 1967 or 1968 Firebird originally came with a V8 or a 6 cylinder is to just glance at the VIN number through the front window on the driver's side dash. If the car came with a V8, the last 6 digits (representing the sequential production number) of the VIN will start with the number 1. If it came with a 6 cylinder, then the last 6 digits will start with a 6. Everything from that point becomes detective work and requires either a lot of knowledge or a call to PHS because so many of these cars have been modded or repaired over the years. Regarding 400 style hoods, it was and still is a very common "upgrade" on non-400 cars. Why? Because it's a better looking hood. It's very common to see first gen Firebirds with 400 hoods and non-400 front bumpers. FYI, that 'Car Billing History' document shown around time mark 10:50 on your video is the most important document to confirm a numbers matching car for 1967 and 1968 Firebirds (there's no other way, so if you care about numbers matching, that document alone is worth the $100). Notice that 6-digit 'Engine Unit Number' code, 471249, in about the middle of the document. If you had the original 400 engine, you would find that exact 6-digit number stamped on the front of the block just under the parting line where the head meets the block on the passenger side, along with a 2-digit engine code, in your case YT. In 1967, YT would be a 325HP 400 Automatic car. In 1968, the YT code 400 increased to 330 HP. There are a lot of those codes as you can see in your documents depending on if the engine was a 326, 350, 350 HO, 400, 400 HO, 400 Ram Air, 400 Ram Air II, etc.. If you find one in the wild, you might have to scrap off a lot of oily gunk to see those codes, but they are always there. Pontiac eventually started putting the entire VIN number on the engine blocks. I'm about 75-80% confident that it was in 1969 and later (might have been 1970 though 'cause I'm gett'n old and memory fades).
I bought a '67 Firebird 400 in 1979 that I wish I still owned. It was coronado gold with a white vinyl top. The interior was gold with a floor shifted turbo 400 and a 12 bolt rea end with 4:10 grears. It also had power windows and a rear antenna.
Was I led down the wrong path that the Vin can speak volumes, but the body tag is needed but only gives you a small amount? Being a fisher body that it may give you a color code, Alpha and numeric for say a Z28, or sport model. things that fisher builds to. Glad you got the real scoop on your Firebird. Its great you're bringing it back to life. The fact that you know where it all started from puts it in a whole other level of cool.
Man that’s awesome! So many fun things you can find with these old GMs. The cowl tag only gives you so much. Wish they had something like PHS for Oldsmobiles.
Congratulations on your discovery. There were 18,698- 400 Firebirds built, but there are very few remaining. I'd love to know how many still exist and how many have there original drive train. I have a 67 400 4sp, sporting the original lacquer Silver Glaze. It's an option delete car (no added options) with 16,243 original miles. I'm the second owner (22 years) and it's been garage kept since new. I have upgraded some needed items, like Wilwood 4 wheel disc brakes, stainless exhaust and an Edelbrock Proflo4 fuel injection system, but I kept the original parts including the exhaust system. It won't run on pump gas with the 670 heads so I buy racing fuel with no ethanol. You see VERY few 67, 68 or 69 Firebirds, even at large car shows and it's an attention getter on the street. A lot people think it's a Camaro and are surprised when they discover it's a Firebird.
the traction bar you got two if it was a 4 speed car,1 if it were a 400 automatic,the special paint is cool,it could be a 326 car .the bumper and the grill is different on 400 the arrowhead and the hocky sticks in the grill,my firebird is a real 400 car with delux inteerier A/C and 3 speed auto trans A/C cars and 400 have a bigger radiator and inserts in front of radiator for better cooling and have return line to tank.
The PHS says 400 AC Car with TH400. Thus the single traction bar, and return fuel line are still there, but at some point the original bumper and grills were lost or replaced.
Yep, PHS doc is great to have if you have an older Pontiac and should even tell you the selling dealer. The single traction bar was on the 400 Auto, 400 Manual had dual bars. Firstgen firebird forum contains a lot of info on these cars including decoding the tags and Color info. From your tag, built 5th week of March 67, it also had Soft-Ray tinted glass, air conditioning and console from the factory.
Wish my dads firebird was still his. He sold it a few years ago. 67 ram air 400 4 speed car. Power steering power brakes and factory ac. It was pretty sweet. And pretty rare options
There was no 400 engine in the 1967 Firebird. The biggest factory engine available was the 389. My uncle who was head of the auto repair department at a Pontiac dealership hired my dad in 1964 as a mechanic. Both confirmed this information when I was in high school searching for a used late 60s Firebird.
Well I hate to say this but you're wrong son, the 400 was available in the Firebird in 1967 and I have motor and the offical Pontiac docs to prove it. Sorry you missed that one.
@@ArrowheadGarage the 400 V-8 became available starting with the 1968 model year. . If a 1967 Firebird has a 400 engine, it is was not factory installed.
Don't dismiss the 350 Pontiac too quickly. They can run. If you do go 400, consider putting those 350 6x4 heads on it for a little compression bump. I run a 350P with #12 heads, Voodoo cam, fuel injection, 2k stall TH350, 8.5 rear with 3.73's. It's plenty to make you a menace to society!
Nice build on your Poncho 350, you took my ideas right out of my head lol I picked up a 400 block with crank and rods, redo the 6x4 heads I have on the 350p and put them on the new 400 build. Anytime you want to meet up and swap Firebird stories let me know.
@@ArrowheadGarage will do! I have sidelined my car stuff for the last couple years, but the bird is waiting for me to stretch it's legs one of these weekends before it gets hot.
Cool stuff. I owned a 1968 400 4 speed, bought it in 1978 from my uncle for 400 dollars and it was nice. I flipped it end over end. I miss that car. I have 400 blocks 9790071 and a 500557. Also own a 1972 455HO. 1967 400 is 9786133 casting number. Would be cool if some way you could track down your 400. I would like to find the chassis that belongs to my 455HO. I have it in a 75 firebird with a 73 front clip and ram air hood.
I currently own a '67 with a 400. 400's and 428's are extremely hard to find due to the crankshaft. Most Pontiac guys I know are using 455's as replacement motors. All blocks are the same from 326 to 455 so nobody can tell the difference. Building a 455 is much less expensive than building a 400 or 428. Setting that car back to exactly what the PHS build sheets say would be cool. However, I would do disc brakes, fuel injection and a few other modern upgrades. I did. My car is much better to drive and way more fun! Thanks for the video. Well done!!! (FYI. If the front bumper doesn't have the "Arrowhead" it could also be a 326, 326HO. The 400 is the only one that got the "Arrowhead".)
Amazing that it's up to $100 now. Back in the early 90's the PHS info (by mail!) was only $20 (it was a gift from my wife and daughter).......man I feel old........lol
I use to call a man named John sawack at pontiac. That was before they sold it to become pontiac historic service. I had a 69 gto they had no record of . Now it's still worth the 100 bucks to document your car.
The 67 Firebirds with 4 barrel V8's had two track bars (traction bars) on the rear. The 2 barrel 326 and the 6 cylinder had one track bar. On a 67 Camaro, the 4 barrel V8's had one track bar on the rear and the other 67 Camaros had no track bars. The 2 barrel 326 Firebird usually has brackets on the rear axle housing for 2 track bars, but the body has only one bracket. All 1968 Firebird had multi-leaf, but only 4 barrel 68 Camaros had multi-leaf. The 400 HO wasn't available in the 67 Firebird, the 400 Ram Air was and the 350hp 396 wasn't available in the 67 Camaro, but the 375hp 396 was.
@@ArrowheadGarage That's possible. The rear axle should have both brackets. Does that body have only one bracket? The 67 Firebird came out late in the 67 model year, but it was reported that 4 barrel engines got two bars. Maybe 4 barrel manual models, including manual 326 HO models. All lesser engines got one bar, even 2 barrel 326 models. A 326 HO manual should have 2 bars, not just 400's.
I have my orig Build sheet, Ill have to compare it to their report. I never put the pace decals on, they came with the car and the dealer applied them if you wanted. I brleive the only real way to tell is the emission label has a different emmission code on it that the regular 400 4spd 10th. The build sheets dont seem to notate it. maybe the Phs report will tell
I had what sounds like the same squeak in my H.F. Floor jack & found the hydraulic oil was a hair low,I added a little hydraulic oil & the squeak went away. Good luck ridding your jack of the annoying squeak!
One of my friends in the late 1970s had a 67 400 4sp with two traction bars and multi leaf springs. Pretty sure it was original but I guess anything is possible.
Ok I have phs paperwork on my 67 326 firebird, convertible:air,power windows and deluxe interior, options out the bum , but they never told me how many where built with air , or some other facts , can you help me please
My wife and I own a 68 firebird 400 convertible. As far as I know the arrow head on the front bumper was 68 only. So that's the correct front bumper with no badge.
Hey guys, the "arrowhead" was on all 400 Firebirds from 1967 to 1968. Since my 67 had a 400 from the factory it should have the bumper with the arrow but as we learned the car was in a fender bender and they replaced the drivers side fender and bumper. The body shop at the time went with the non arrow bumper as it was cheaper. Thanks for watching and if you guys need help on your 68 Firebird let me know.
I have a 400... And I'm down the road from you In fact.. I have a few.. We could make a trade Comments also are as inaccurate as the internet. I've built pontiac motors for 40+ years... I've learned a few things and my info is free.. not $95 lol
Boy, whoever you first listened to on the internet didn't know crap about Firebirds. First clue, the 3F on the trim tag tells you it's a 400 car. The fuel line with a return line was only on cars that came with quadrajets, but I'm not 100% on if the Sprint had the return line. I don't believe so. As for the radius rods (traction bars) V8 auto cars got 1 bar, V8 manual Trans cars got 2 bars, and 6 cylinder manuals Trans cars got 1 bar. All 67's had the mono leafs. The only difference between a 400 front bumper and all the others is 2 holes for the emblem, that just bolts on. The chrome trim on the 400 grills is different too. It's more of a hockey stick shape. What's odd is the PHS says it had a cream top, but your trim tag says it came with a black top. Odd. Good luck with it. And 400 cars had stiffer springs and a bigger front sway bar than others. I believe most front sway bars were 11/16 and the 400 car was 13/16. It's been forever since I measured one.
Thats interesting. Wonder if they have that for Camaros. So on Camaros the vin will tell you 6 vs 8 cly. The 3rd number states it. So mine is 124379NXXXXXX. The 4 says it’s a 8 cyl. Now when I bought it, it was banged as a SS with the hood but guy told me real RS. I don’t think it was anymore. But be nice to know really what it was. I know it’s 8 cyl, Daytona yellow with black vinyl top and black standard interior.
I betcha there has to be a way to find out for sure, also I found out the original dealer who sold the car new in 1967 was Mecham Pontiac in Glendale, Arizona!!!! She is a real AZ BIRD lol
The PHS report looks really interesting. Im going to have to get one and read it. I have a 79 10th aniv Trans-am 400 4spd. I know whats on that as I bought it new, well bid on it i shoukd ssy at the dealer. The PHS report looks really interesting. Im going to havevto get one and read it. I have a 79 10th aniv Ttans-am 400 4spd. I know whats on that as I bought it new, well bid on it i should ssy at the dealer - those went for general sale. I watch Jonathan on vvg too.
first gen 400 firebirds are not exactly rare. This is due to the fact that in the late 70s to the early 80s no one including gm made sheet metal for them. everyone salvaged the 6 cylinder and the 326 cars to keep the 400s alive. back in the day you would see camaro front clips on firebirds because there was no replacement parts. myself i would love to find a ohv 6 firebird with the 4 speed.
I heard that artificial intelligence got dumber after it's interaction with the internet... that tells you everything you need to know about internet information.
@@ArrowheadGarage If you can't get what you need, it can be shipped. I had the original motor from the care shipped from the US to me after having it rebuilt. I can reverse the process. Not too expensive, but I am sure you can get the same for less shipping cost. It does have the 670 heads etc though.
First off, WHAT???, the Vin tells you if it was a 6 or 8 cyl period, after the 5 digit code is the year, 7, then a plant ID where it was built, U for Lordstown for example, then a 1 if it's a 8cyl or 6 if it was 6cyl then the number vehicle as it was made, the 3F in the body tag usually means 400 v8, the bumper may have been replaced, right on your body tag it says Special2, that means it was an ordered color, it also looks like it was a 3sp manual, someone ordered that car to their specs. It was a base 400, not HO, the term Ram Air really didn't become used until 68 and then the 67HO became known as the RAI, it looks like the car had the rare rear antenna option, But you're right that the PHS is a MUST, many many Pontiacs are faked, especially Judges, some shops have take the entire firewall of a wrecked Judge and put it in a lemans, voila' it's a Judge and few could tell, it's got the vin and bodytag, there's quite a few punks with pages on FB trying to sell Pontiacs and quite a few major shops on the net selling Pontiacs with no vin stated, folks before you plunk down any cash, do some learning about the models, get the body tag and vin analyzers, and get a PHS done first. this is a good vin analyzer www.tpocr.com/pontiacvin5.html
"rare rare" mmmm not really because have you ever seen 18,000 cars parked all at once? A lot of cars. When you spend the $$ you will still have a non-matching numbers Firebird 400. Restore it as a driver. I own a '68 Firebird 400HO luxury Bird (tilt, bird glass tint, AC, pw) with its original motor gone. Its going together with a 68 FB 400 short block, muncie 21, and a collection of Ram Air 2 top end assembly bits- and as a driver for fun.
Hello ta, Mmmm 25% of 18000 identical model cars is well over 700 cars. That would fill a parking lot substantually. I would say closer to 50% as they are an 'image' but unappreciated car.
I have a 67 400 firebird my mother bought new on may 28, 1967. I was with her and she was about to buy a 326 2bbl with powerglide, AC and vinyl top. A truckload of new cars came in and there it sat, a red 400/turbo400 and it was slightly cheaper than the 326 car. I told my mom to get the red one instead and thank God she listened. It had no AC but did have the 400 HO engine with 670 heads. It also had monoleaf springs and a single traction bar. I still own it to this day. I was 5yo the day she bought it and I inherited it 10 years later.
Don that is an awesome story!!! Do you have any old photos with you and/or mom in them???
@@ArrowheadGarage I had one BnW of me hugging the car at 5yo but haven't seen it in decades maybe some day it will turn up.
I have a '67 Firebird 400 convertible. My grandfather bought it new in 67 for my grandmother who never drove it because it has a 3 speed, manual steering, manual brakes. My grandfather died in 1997 and my grandmother gave me the car about 7 years ago. I have the original wheel covers and the dealer plate frame. Has a factory installed tach on the hood.
That freaking awesome man, would love to see photos or video of your car!!!!
Let's see it
Nice car and video. I've owned four 1968 Firebirds, two Sprints, one 350, and one 400. I sold my last one in the late 80s, but not a year goes by that I don't think about getting another one. A very simple quick and dirty way to confirm if your 1967 or 1968 Firebird originally came with a V8 or a 6 cylinder is to just glance at the VIN number through the front window on the driver's side dash. If the car came with a V8, the last 6 digits (representing the sequential production number) of the VIN will start with the number 1. If it came with a 6 cylinder, then the last 6 digits will start with a 6. Everything from that point becomes detective work and requires either a lot of knowledge or a call to PHS because so many of these cars have been modded or repaired over the years. Regarding 400 style hoods, it was and still is a very common "upgrade" on non-400 cars. Why? Because it's a better looking hood. It's very common to see first gen Firebirds with 400 hoods and non-400 front bumpers. FYI, that 'Car Billing History' document shown around time mark 10:50 on your video is the most important document to confirm a numbers matching car for 1967 and 1968 Firebirds (there's no other way, so if you care about numbers matching, that document alone is worth the $100). Notice that 6-digit 'Engine Unit Number' code, 471249, in about the middle of the document. If you had the original 400 engine, you would find that exact 6-digit number stamped on the front of the block just under the parting line where the head meets the block on the passenger side, along with a 2-digit engine code, in your case YT. In 1967, YT would be a 325HP 400 Automatic car. In 1968, the YT code 400 increased to 330 HP. There are a lot of those codes as you can see in your documents depending on if the engine was a 326, 350, 350 HO, 400, 400 HO, 400 Ram Air, 400 Ram Air II, etc.. If you find one in the wild, you might have to scrap off a lot of oily gunk to see those codes, but they are always there. Pontiac eventually started putting the entire VIN number on the engine blocks. I'm about 75-80% confident that it was in 1969 and later (might have been 1970 though 'cause I'm gett'n old and memory fades).
I bought a '67 Firebird 400 in 1979 that I wish I still owned. It was coronado gold with a white vinyl top. The interior was gold with a floor shifted turbo 400 and a 12 bolt rea end with 4:10 grears. It also had power windows and a rear antenna.
If you order a Pontiac historical Services report, make sure you order the accompanying window sticker also, I ordered two
You know that was the one thing I didn't, I wonder if I could order it after the fact?
Any pontiac content is refreshing. Good job
Was I led down the wrong path that the Vin can speak volumes, but the body tag is needed but only gives you a small amount? Being a fisher body that it may give you a color code, Alpha and numeric for say a Z28, or sport model. things that fisher builds to. Glad you got the real scoop on your Firebird. Its great you're bringing it back to life. The fact that you know where it all started from puts it in a whole other level of cool.
Man that’s awesome! So many fun things you can find with these old GMs. The cowl tag only gives you so much. Wish they had something like PHS for Oldsmobiles.
They dont??????? Porsche has something similar but charges $600 for the documentation
3F on the bottom line of the tag tells you it was a 400 car originally. The codes for the options are on the trim tag.
Congratulations on your discovery. There were 18,698- 400 Firebirds built, but there are very few remaining. I'd love to know how many still exist and how many have there original drive train.
I have a 67 400 4sp, sporting the original lacquer Silver Glaze. It's an option delete car (no added options) with 16,243 original miles. I'm the second owner (22 years) and it's been garage kept since new. I have upgraded some needed items, like Wilwood 4 wheel disc brakes, stainless exhaust and an Edelbrock Proflo4 fuel injection system, but I kept the original parts including the exhaust system. It won't run on pump gas with the 670 heads so I buy racing fuel with no ethanol. You see VERY few 67, 68 or 69 Firebirds, even at large car shows and it's an attention getter on the street. A lot people think it's a Camaro and are surprised when they discover it's a Firebird.
That is awesome, I would love to see your Bird!!
the traction bar you got two if it was a 4 speed car,1 if it were a 400 automatic,the special paint is cool,it could be a 326 car .the bumper and the grill is different on 400 the arrowhead and the hocky sticks in the grill,my firebird is a real 400 car with delux inteerier A/C and 3 speed auto trans A/C cars and 400 have a bigger radiator and inserts in front of radiator for better cooling and have return line to tank.
The PHS says 400 AC Car with TH400. Thus the single traction bar, and return fuel line are still there, but at some point the original bumper and grills were lost or replaced.
Think we may have a rare 1967 firebird that’s definitely 400 and all numbers matching in the UK
Yep, PHS doc is great to have if you have an older Pontiac and should even tell you the selling dealer. The single traction bar was on the 400 Auto, 400 Manual had dual bars. Firstgen firebird forum contains a lot of info on these cars including decoding the tags and Color info. From your tag, built 5th week of March 67, it also had Soft-Ray tinted glass, air conditioning and console from the factory.
What is "soft ray tinted glass" just he "green" tint most 1960's cars had?
From a Buick fan site apparently it was blue tint. Soft-Ray was GM’s tradename for the glass (corrected to caps and the hyphen).
@@ArrowheadGarage If I remember correctly the soft tinted glass was what was put in a car when it had AC.
Wish my dads firebird was still his. He sold it a few years ago. 67 ram air 400 4 speed car. Power steering power brakes and factory ac. It was pretty sweet. And pretty rare options
If car has air dams from front grill to radiator mount, it's a 400 car. 400 overheats without them so that was a necessity 🧐
Good eye, finally got them installed!
I have a 67 firebird 455 but idk if its a factory 455 it has a 4 speed transmission its original color was silver glaze with a black interior
in 67 the Fireibrd had the inline 6, a v8 326 and a v8 400.
@ArrowheadGarage so it was swapped, and someone added 455 badges.
Did your 2 hidden partial Vinson match your vin?
Yes they sure did, that is what saved my bacon!!!
Damn I need the info on my 68
I tell you what, best money spent to know what am working with on the Bird. The same info from Porsche is nearly $700
One thing it proves, about how older Pontiacs were built back in the day, you can never say never.
Truth!!!!
There was no 400 engine in the 1967 Firebird. The biggest factory engine available was the 389. My uncle who was head of the auto repair department at a Pontiac dealership hired my dad in 1964 as a mechanic. Both confirmed this information when I was in high school searching for a used late 60s Firebird.
Well I hate to say this but you're wrong son, the 400 was available in the Firebird in 1967 and I have motor and the offical Pontiac docs to prove it. Sorry you missed that one.
@@ArrowheadGarage the 400 V-8 became available starting with the 1968 model year. . If a 1967 Firebird has a 400 engine, it is was not factory installed.
Don't dismiss the 350 Pontiac too quickly. They can run. If you do go 400, consider putting those 350 6x4 heads on it for a little compression bump. I run a 350P with #12 heads, Voodoo cam, fuel injection, 2k stall TH350, 8.5 rear with 3.73's. It's plenty to make you a menace to society!
Nice build on your Poncho 350, you took my ideas right out of my head lol I picked up a 400 block with crank and rods, redo the 6x4 heads I have on the 350p and put them on the new 400 build. Anytime you want to meet up and swap Firebird stories let me know.
@@ArrowheadGarage will do! I have sidelined my car stuff for the last couple years, but the bird is waiting for me to stretch it's legs one of these weekends before it gets hot.
Cool stuff. I owned a 1968 400 4 speed, bought it in 1978 from my uncle for 400 dollars and it was nice. I flipped it end over end. I miss that car.
I have 400 blocks 9790071 and a 500557.
Also own a 1972 455HO.
1967 400 is 9786133 casting number.
Would be cool if some way you could track down your 400.
I would like to find the chassis that belongs to my 455HO. I have it in a 75 firebird with a 73 front clip and ram air hood.
I currently own a '67 with a 400. 400's and 428's are extremely hard to find due to the crankshaft. Most Pontiac guys I know are using 455's as replacement motors. All blocks are the same from 326 to 455 so nobody can tell the difference. Building a 455 is much less expensive than building a 400 or 428. Setting that car back to exactly what the PHS build sheets say would be cool. However, I would do disc brakes, fuel injection and a few other modern upgrades. I did. My car is much better to drive and way more fun! Thanks for the video. Well done!!!
(FYI. If the front bumper doesn't have the "Arrowhead" it could also be a 326, 326HO. The 400 is the only one that got the "Arrowhead".)
This is what I am learning... 455 seems like the way I will be heading!! Thanks for watching and dropping a comment.
455s are no more expensive than 400s.. completely inaccurate info
Thank you for your knowledge and video's USA 🇺🇸
You betcha Patrick, I have a new appreciation for American Metal!!!
Amazing that it's up to $100 now. Back in the early 90's the PHS info (by mail!) was only $20 (it was a gift from my wife and daughter).......man I feel old........lol
Porsche offers a similar documentation but now $600.00
I use to call a man named John sawack at pontiac. That was before they sold it to become pontiac historic service. I had a 69 gto they had no record of . Now it's still worth the 100 bucks to document your car.
The 67 Firebirds with 4 barrel V8's had two track bars (traction bars) on the rear. The 2 barrel 326 and the 6 cylinder had one track bar. On a 67 Camaro, the 4 barrel V8's had one track bar on the rear and the other 67 Camaros had no track bars. The 2 barrel 326 Firebird usually has brackets on the rear axle housing for 2 track bars, but the body has only one bracket. All 1968 Firebird had multi-leaf, but only 4 barrel 68 Camaros had multi-leaf. The 400 HO wasn't available in the 67 Firebird, the 400 Ram Air was and the 350hp 396 wasn't available in the 67 Camaro, but the 375hp 396 was.
My research says that only the 400 cars with manual trans received both track bars, the automatics just had one on the passenger side.
@@ArrowheadGarage That's possible. The rear axle should have both brackets. Does that body have only one bracket? The 67 Firebird came out late in the 67 model year, but it was reported that 4 barrel engines got two bars. Maybe 4 barrel manual models, including manual 326 HO models. All lesser engines got one bar, even 2 barrel 326 models. A 326 HO manual should have 2 bars, not just 400's.
Lol. Omg orange Mountain Dew!!!!! Hey that’s mine.
Wish I had a 400 to give to you.
Oh see what you have started, great I am never going to financially recover from this new addiction lol
@@ArrowheadGarage sorry pal, maybe if we get a mnt dew sponsor that would help
Congratulations!! Mind Blown!
Thank you girl!
I have my orig Build sheet, Ill have to compare it to their report.
I never put the pace decals on, they came with the car and the dealer applied them if you wanted.
I brleive the only real way to tell is the emission label has a different emmission code on it that the regular 400 4spd 10th. The build sheets dont seem to notate it.
maybe the Phs report will tell
I was hoping to find the build sheet on this Bird, but no luck!
I had what sounds like the same squeak in my H.F. Floor jack & found the hydraulic oil was a hair low,I added a little hydraulic oil & the squeak went away. Good luck ridding your jack of the annoying squeak!
Oh wow, I will be checking that this week for sure then.. thank you!!!
Hava a 1970 esprit 400 2 bbl turbo 400 one owner tryed to sell it at local car shows no takers
All 1967 firebirds had a rear monoleaf spring whether it was v8 or a 6. It wasn't until 68 they had multileaf rear spring.
One of my friends in the late 1970s had a 67 400 4sp with two traction bars and multi leaf springs. Pretty sure it was original but I guess anything is possible.
Ok I have phs paperwork on my 67 326 firebird, convertible:air,power windows and deluxe interior, options out the bum , but they never told me how many where built with air , or some other facts , can you help me please
Let me do some research and see if I can get a number for you.
@@ArrowheadGarage thank you,
My wife and I own a 68 firebird 400 convertible. As far as I know the arrow head on the front bumper was 68 only. So that's the correct front bumper with no badge.
Hey guys, the "arrowhead" was on all 400 Firebirds from 1967 to 1968. Since my 67 had a 400 from the factory it should have the bumper with the arrow but as we learned the car was in a fender bender and they replaced the drivers side fender and bumper. The body shop at the time went with the non arrow bumper as it was cheaper. Thanks for watching and if you guys need help on your 68 Firebird let me know.
Very cool 😎 brother
Luis thank you man I appreciate you brother!
I have a 400...
And I'm down the road from you
In fact.. I have a few..
We could make a trade
Comments also are as inaccurate as the internet. I've built pontiac motors for 40+ years... I've learned a few things and my info is free.. not $95 lol
Hey Chris, absolutely hit me up this week sometime text me at 6026889124
You should not put your phone number on the internet. FYI @@ArrowheadGarage
I YOU are probably looking for a 67 YT code 400. I Love them tin indians!
I have a 1970 esprit 400 2 bbl turbo 400 got from original owner tried to sell at local car shows no takers
I have a 326 and a mid 70s 400 in the garage that I haven't had any takers on as well.
Boy, whoever you first listened to on the internet didn't know crap about Firebirds. First clue, the 3F on the trim tag tells you it's a 400 car. The fuel line with a return line was only on cars that came with quadrajets, but I'm not 100% on if the Sprint had the return line. I don't believe so. As for the radius rods (traction bars) V8 auto cars got 1 bar, V8 manual Trans cars got 2 bars, and 6 cylinder manuals Trans cars got 1 bar. All 67's had the mono leafs. The only difference between a 400 front bumper and all the others is 2 holes for the emblem, that just bolts on. The chrome trim on the 400 grills is different too. It's more of a hockey stick shape. What's odd is the PHS says it had a cream top, but your trim tag says it came with a black top. Odd. Good luck with it. And 400 cars had stiffer springs and a bigger front sway bar than others. I believe most front sway bars were 11/16 and the 400 car was 13/16. It's been forever since I measured one.
So many Keyboard Mechanics... so few real ones! Thanks for watching and sharing some info with us.
@@ArrowheadGarage - At 11:50 the OHC 6 engine was hardly "plain jane" !
I have a 68 400 4sp car 89000 miles
Freaking nice!!!!!
I’m in Canada : love the vids
Thank you sir!!!
Thats interesting. Wonder if they have that for Camaros. So on Camaros the vin will tell you 6 vs 8 cly. The 3rd number states it. So mine is 124379NXXXXXX. The 4 says it’s a 8 cyl. Now when I bought it, it was banged as a SS with the hood but guy told me real RS. I don’t think it was anymore. But be nice to know really what it was. I know it’s 8 cyl, Daytona yellow with black vinyl top and black standard interior.
I betcha there has to be a way to find out for sure, also I found out the original dealer who sold the car new in 1967 was Mecham Pontiac in Glendale, Arizona!!!! She is a real AZ BIRD lol
@@ArrowheadGarage you know more than me. No idea where mine came from. Be nice to know some history. I think mine was put together from a couple cars
No. Pontiac is the only manufacture that kept these records.
The PHS report looks really interesting. Im going to have to get one and read it. I have a 79 10th aniv Trans-am 400 4spd. I know whats on that as I bought it new, well bid on it i shoukd ssy at the dealer. The PHS report looks really interesting. Im going to havevto get one and read it. I have a 79 10th aniv Ttans-am 400 4spd. I know whats on that as I bought it new, well bid on it i should ssy at the dealer - those went for general sale.
I watch Jonathan on vvg too.
Grab the PHS report, for me knowing it was a 400 car and bought new in my own town was awesome. Oh yes Jonathan over a VVG is the Firebird Doctor!
I have one but don’t know the condition of it
first gen 400 firebirds are not exactly rare. This is due to the fact that in the late 70s to the early 80s no one including gm made sheet metal for them. everyone salvaged the 6 cylinder and the 326 cars to keep the 400s alive. back in the day you would see camaro front clips on firebirds because there was no replacement parts. myself i would love to find a ohv 6 firebird with the 4 speed.
I heard that artificial intelligence got dumber after it's interaction with the internet... that tells you everything you need to know about internet information.
I think you're right! lol thanks for watching!
The color?? You sure?
PHS confirmed the color… unless they be lying 🤥
I have a running 67 400 motor, but..it is not a firebird 400 and it is in Europe.
John you got me all excited then let me down lol JK lol
@@ArrowheadGarage If you can't get what you need, it can be shipped. I had the original motor from the care shipped from the US to me after having it rebuilt. I can reverse the process. Not too expensive, but I am sure you can get the same for less shipping cost. It does have the 670 heads etc though.
All the 400s are the same minus the heads. Whether it a GTO or bird, unless he is looking for numbers matching
First off, WHAT???, the Vin tells you if it was a 6 or 8 cyl period, after the 5 digit code is the year, 7, then a plant ID where it was built, U for Lordstown for example, then a 1 if it's a 8cyl or 6 if it was 6cyl then the number vehicle as it was made, the 3F in the body tag usually means 400 v8, the bumper may have been replaced, right on your body tag it says Special2, that means it was an ordered color, it also looks like it was a 3sp manual, someone ordered that car to their specs. It was a base 400, not HO, the term Ram Air really didn't become used until 68 and then the 67HO became known as the RAI, it looks like the car had the rare rear antenna option, But you're right that the PHS is a MUST, many many Pontiacs are faked, especially Judges, some shops have take the entire firewall of a wrecked Judge and put it in a lemans, voila' it's a Judge and few could tell, it's got the vin and bodytag, there's quite a few punks with pages on FB trying to sell Pontiacs and quite a few major shops on the net selling Pontiacs with no vin stated, folks before you plunk down any cash, do some learning about the models, get the body tag and vin analyzers, and get a PHS done first. this is a good vin analyzer www.tpocr.com/pontiacvin5.html
On the 3 speed box, the PHS says TH400... but you're saying the original owner had the dealer or Pontiac swap them out???
Yeah but the 6 was actually more rare so now what?
This guy is goofy
lol I will take that as a good ole complement for this TH-cam thing lol
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"rare rare" mmmm not really because have you ever seen 18,000 cars parked all at once? A lot of cars. When you spend the $$ you will still have a non-matching numbers Firebird 400. Restore it as a driver. I own a '68 Firebird 400HO luxury Bird (tilt, bird glass tint, AC, pw) with its original motor gone. Its going together with a 68 FB 400 short block, muncie 21, and a collection of Ram Air 2 top end assembly bits- and as a driver for fun.
I'll bet there are fewer than 25% of those 400 firebirds left.
Hello ta,
Mmmm 25% of 18000 identical model cars is well over 700 cars. That would fill a parking lot substantually. I would say closer to 50% as they are an 'image' but unappreciated car.