@@fangedcow12345 I'd say he got more practice but these were close games. DeWalt's skill is improving tremendously fast, I'd love to see their rematch.
I just came up with this question last night!! In game 2; This is a prime example, why I think Terran should go for Marines here? Maybe not range or stim, though I thjbk that should be done in this case because of the production bottleneck and the gas bank. Either pare down gas mining or spend that gas somewhere. An Ebay is crazy to me here though because academy is needed anyway for scan and there's your detection while supporting midgame bio. Artosis noted the first which I think was also a mistake. Machine shop into tank reduces the damage. Maybe he didn't expect the last 2 goons to get stuck? I don't think he was that far behind until he collapsed taking the natural. I think delaying the CC and continuing marine production at least gives you a non-zero chance.
Why would they decide to make the factory outside of the protection of the bunker? They had plenty of space below it, to the left of the Command Center.
@@ArtosisCasts Thanks! Does that mean these tournaments go on for weeks as well, or does that only apply for the first game? Great job casting, by the way. I only follow Brood War through you (for some months), and can't remember any info about ASL. I hope you let us know how and when to watch it when it comes around!
Two great games, thank you for the cast! Please dont skip the beginning of the second game. Its fun being surprised by the probe leaving to start a proxy, having the match open with the build is less fun and doesnt show new players how to execute similar builds.
How are you watching these, that it doesn't show up when the players gg out? It would show in replays. None of these matches have gg, surely gg is not dead? surely they say gg?
It's not the map. It's literally just PvT starting out is P favored. A-moving zealots takes 0 skill and terran needs 200+ APM to "win" the micro of marine vs. zealot
@@fangedcow12345exactly, and somehow Mihu managed to kill the initial zealots and 2 goons with good scv micro.. that shows how good he is. Also protoss can not only dominate terran in their base with more early units but meanwhile can also take more expansion, make more production buildings AND tech.. good race!
@@fangedcow12345 Well, that is partly the map though; it's 60/40 in favor of Protoss currently. Protoss is favored on that map because there are multiple attack angles into the Terran natural that can be easily exploited, it's a 2 player map with a fairly short rush distance, and the main is easy to drop. Late game, the map would be good for Terran, because the lanes are somewhat narrow, and the short distances let terran push across and force the issue with their mech ball more easily, but the map doesn't really cater to reaching that phase of the game.
Lmaoooo, i love protoss. Lose game 1, promptly goes for the big brained A-move zealot imba vs. marine. Honestly I don't know why protosses dont do this more often. PvT is a complete joke, just A-move zealots and you'll have a 70% win rate. It takes a zealot 3 hits to kill a marine. It takes a marine 30+ hits to kill a zealot. The early PvT imbalance is hilarious.
You don’t just a move zealots, marines against cpu zealots is easy to win. Marines against human opponent lots is much tougher. Zealots get moved after their attack so that they keep up with retreating units during the attack cooldown. Also they’re checking marine hp to target weak ones at same time they’re macroing back home.
@@charlescook5542 For a given APM below 200, zealots will always beat marines. APM for APM, zealots are nearly always better than marines by a country mile unless you're Flash. Even then, Best and Bisu often zealot him anyways because it's still worth it. There's no world were 100 minerals of marines is equal to 100 minerals of zealots, thats why terran always go straight for vultures. Even then you lose without micro despite being 2x levels ahead in tech.
Hats off , don't mind waiting at all to see game three.
YSC is pissed! haha
We want a Dewalt vs Mihu 9 games series to decide who is the best non-korean
I think they played a series like that in one of recent tournaments, Mihu won with very marginal score difference IIRC.
depends on how many carrier maps they draw, lol. some carrier maps are hopeless for Terran.
Mihu's played 2 Bo5s in BSL vs Dewalt including BSL finals, won both times. He's objectively better.
@@fangedcow12345 I'd say he got more practice but these were close games. DeWalt's skill is improving tremendously fast, I'd love to see their rematch.
@@cuiivy DeWalt rarely goes for Carriers btw, he prefers Arbiters in late game
Another game where Artosis calls Mihu the greatest non-Korean player in the world. DeWalt might have something to say about that.
Dewalt is Korean he bleached his skin
Mihu beat Dewalt in BSL
Mihu has repeatedly wrecked Dewalt in BSL, it's not even close. Mihu's record vs Dewalt is ~8-2 or close to that.
Mihu pretty consistently out performs dewalt
Before Dewalt doesnt beat Bonyth in PvP it is kind of hard ...
Hope to get to see Mihu's insane wraith micro this round. Guess I'll find out
That second game was nuts!
07:17- I love Artosis' glee
I just came up with this question last night!! In game 2; This is a prime example, why I think Terran should go for Marines here? Maybe not range or stim, though I thjbk that should be done in this case because of the production bottleneck and the gas bank. Either pare down gas mining or spend that gas somewhere.
An Ebay is crazy to me here though because academy is needed anyway for scan and there's your detection while supporting midgame bio.
Artosis noted the first which I think was also a mistake. Machine shop into tank reduces the damage. Maybe he didn't expect the last 2 goons to get stuck?
I don't think he was that far behind until he collapsed taking the natural. I think delaying the CC and continuing marine production at least gives you a non-zero chance.
Why would they decide to make the factory outside of the protection of the bunker? They had plenty of space below it, to the left of the Command Center.
Why are you making us wait for game 3?? I don't like cliffhanger endings! 😮
shud be thankful that he did not split one match into 2 videos
@younggandalf9325 One day, one game. Just marketing.
@10:42 you get the impression we're not seeing the best pro gamers lol
Terran trying to cheap out on a 100 mineral, in-main bunker, costs them 300 minerals ibn dead ass marines.
Why there's never a tvt zvz or pvp cast?
The way Mihu lost his 2 tanks on that high ground ruined it for me! He was absolutely perfect up until then!
The 2nd map seems a bit unfair but GGs!
What are the dates on these games? I don't want to google in case I see any spoilers.
Is the victory of these intermediary matches so important? For me all that matters is to see the gameplay and how it unfolds.
@@Leonhart_93 Not very, but I'd still like to keep the suspense.
Most of the CNSL casts are within a week of the play date.
@@Leonhart_93 It helps to not know who will win, when an upcoming final battle is to be had.
@@ArtosisCasts Thanks! Does that mean these tournaments go on for weeks as well, or does that only apply for the first game?
Great job casting, by the way. I only follow Brood War through you (for some months), and can't remember any info about ASL. I hope you let us know how and when to watch it when it comes around!
why usually names are not fit to their real nicks?
cliff hanger...
yes
RT leaving us with a cliffhanger
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Two great games, thank you for the cast! Please dont skip the beginning of the second game. Its fun being surprised by the probe leaving to start a proxy, having the match open with the build is less fun and doesnt show new players how to execute similar builds.
How are you watching these, that it doesn't show up when the players gg out? It would show in replays.
None of these matches have gg, surely gg is not dead? surely they say gg?
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The last map is really Protoss favored
It's not the map. It's literally just PvT starting out is P favored. A-moving zealots takes 0 skill and terran needs 200+ APM to "win" the micro of marine vs. zealot
@@fangedcow12345exactly, and somehow Mihu managed to kill the initial zealots and 2 goons with good scv micro.. that shows how good he is.
Also protoss can not only dominate terran in their base with more early units but meanwhile can also take more expansion, make more production buildings AND tech.. good race!
@@fangedcow12345 Well, that is partly the map though; it's 60/40 in favor of Protoss currently. Protoss is favored on that map because there are multiple attack angles into the Terran natural that can be easily exploited, it's a 2 player map with a fairly short rush distance, and the main is easy to drop.
Late game, the map would be good for Terran, because the lanes are somewhat narrow, and the short distances let terran push across and force the issue with their mech ball more easily, but the map doesn't really cater to reaching that phase of the game.
@@olivierslupik400 He didn't do a good job defending that. Lost way too much.
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Lmaoooo, i love protoss. Lose game 1, promptly goes for the big brained A-move zealot imba vs. marine. Honestly I don't know why protosses dont do this more often. PvT is a complete joke, just A-move zealots and you'll have a 70% win rate. It takes a zealot 3 hits to kill a marine. It takes a marine 30+ hits to kill a zealot. The early PvT imbalance is hilarious.
You don’t just a move zealots, marines against cpu zealots is easy to win. Marines against human opponent lots is much tougher. Zealots get moved after their attack so that they keep up with retreating units during the attack cooldown. Also they’re checking marine hp to target weak ones at same time they’re macroing back home.
@@charlescook5542 For a given APM below 200, zealots will always beat marines. APM for APM, zealots are nearly always better than marines by a country mile unless you're Flash. Even then, Best and Bisu often zealot him anyways because it's still worth it. There's no world were 100 minerals of marines is equal to 100 minerals of zealots, thats why terran always go straight for vultures. Even then you lose without micro despite being 2x levels ahead in tech.