That comparison is very interesting and I would love to hear more comments when you repeat in calmer conditions. I mostly wingfoil and have always been a proponent of alu masts. I saw carbon masts as an unnecessary and expensive luxury. A while ago I read an article in the surf magazine (German windsurfing magazine) where they compared alu and carbon masts and found that there are only marginal differences and in some ways alu masts can even be stiffer (however in windsurf foiling you typically use small foils). Currently I use only a 112cm Fluid H XL foil. I just ordered an Ypra-LS (90cm). With a smaller foil it should matter less how stiff your mast is. However a Gong adviser told me that with the fast Ypra-LS foil an Alu mast would be "too thick" and it would ventilate at high speeds. So a carbon mast is "needed". The alu mast is not thicker than 19mm I think. I just ordered a Gong HM 86cm mast which is 20mm thick at the top and 17mm at the bottom. So I don't expect a big difference. I ordered it because I want to be prepared to get a big Sirus wing next year (XL or XXL) for wingfoiling in very light wind. Gong says for those foils you really need the "thick" HM masts (72, 79 or 86). In this video you sound like the difference is not very big, even with Sirus XXL. So I am really not sure about how much of this is marketing and if I just wasted a lot of money on a mast with little benefit.
It was really difficult to tell in those conditions. If the weather might be calmer this week, I will try again. I don’t think it’s just marketing. The Alu fuselage of a friend broke or got bended with the Sirus XXL. It seems that the forces are getting quite high, otherwise gong would have never made the high modulus mast so thick.
From gong out they say you need the newer stronger reenforced carbon mast , not even ok with the HM85 but need the HM85 with all front wings above 120cm wingspan.
I compared the 85 Alu to the 72 Carbon with the Sirus XXL. The HM Carbon one is just too expensive for me. I just ordered the 75cm Alu to compare to the 85cm. If you are interested, I d be happy to compare again (in calmer conditions) with the same board (Kluber80)
the 75 is probably a bit stiffer than the 85 due to length. the new carbon hm mast will be interesting because they made the profile thinner, so it will have less drag and therefore be more efficient
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That comparison is very interesting and I would love to hear more comments when you repeat in calmer conditions. I mostly wingfoil and have always been a proponent of alu masts. I saw carbon masts as an unnecessary and expensive luxury. A while ago I read an article in the surf magazine (German windsurfing magazine) where they compared alu and carbon masts and found that there are only marginal differences and in some ways alu masts can even be stiffer (however in windsurf foiling you typically use small foils). Currently I use only a 112cm Fluid H XL foil. I just ordered an Ypra-LS (90cm). With a smaller foil it should matter less how stiff your mast is. However a Gong adviser told me that with the fast Ypra-LS foil an Alu mast would be "too thick" and it would ventilate at high speeds. So a carbon mast is "needed".
The alu mast is not thicker than 19mm I think. I just ordered a Gong HM 86cm mast which is 20mm thick at the top and 17mm at the bottom. So I don't expect a big difference. I ordered it because I want to be prepared to get a big Sirus wing next year (XL or XXL) for wingfoiling in very light wind. Gong says for those foils you really need the "thick" HM masts (72, 79 or 86). In this video you sound like the difference is not very big, even with Sirus XXL. So I am really not sure about how much of this is marketing and if I just wasted a lot of money on a mast with little benefit.
It was really difficult to tell in those conditions. If the weather might be calmer this week, I will try again. I don’t think it’s just marketing. The Alu fuselage of a friend broke or got bended with the Sirus XXL. It seems that the forces are getting quite high, otherwise gong would have never made the high modulus mast so thick.
I am also very interesting in further test.
From gong out they say you need the newer stronger reenforced carbon mast , not even ok with the HM85 but need the HM85 with all front wings above 120cm wingspan.
I compared the 85 Alu to the 72 Carbon with the Sirus XXL. The HM Carbon one is just too expensive for me. I just ordered the 75cm Alu to compare to the 85cm. If you are interested, I d be happy to compare again (in calmer conditions) with the same board (Kluber80)
the 75 is probably a bit stiffer than the 85 due to length. the new carbon hm mast will be interesting because they made the profile thinner, so it will have less drag and therefore be more efficient
@@FoilingPastor do you have (or get) the V3?
@@mattonfoil no, I don`t that much money. But it looks interesting on the specs, because the old 72 HM has quite some drag
Excellent well done subed keep it up😊
thank you very much for the feedback and the sub. I hope you can have a great day!