@@sonsofmatriarchy5552 Velka 3, with an RTX 2070 ITX and with an internal power supply, or a Dan A4 that still quite tiny and can allocate a 2080 ti or whatever you want and still smaller and probably more silent than any console, the only obvious drawback is the cost.
I'm just spending a lot of my time trying to learn and understand this building process. That being said, would pointing the GPU fans facing downward negatively affect performance at all?
@@zhaiketoledo3658 The most power-hungry card I had in there was a GTX 970 and an i7-6700T. Whole system drew about 190 watts on gaming load and the GPU hovered around 78 degrees at 60% fanspeed, 20 degrees ambient. Not very loud at all, very acceptable performance and temps. I know people are fitting GTX 1080 Mini's and 2070s in there and undervolting the cards is definitely recommended to keep the fans from blaring.
I guess it's a matter of time... But he also focus on SFF, so his public is a bit different of Marquees, Dave2d and Linus... I watch all then, for me each one covers a specific content better than general content..
@@Tekeverything It worked like a charm! I used the case with the top cover with vent holes, a Aorus B450-I PRO-WIFI for mobo and a 200W power supply/adapter from RGeek.
I love how tiny this is, but not being able to fit at least a flex psu and bigger itx gpu is kind of a deal breaker for me. I think I'll be happy with the velka 3 clone I got off AliExpress... if it ever gets here. Maybe I'll do a build in this case too and just keep whichever I end up liking more.
What is that square case featured in the size comparison at 3:24? As a suggestion, may I humbly request that you identify the cases that you compare to? Thanks!
Great review. Though, I wished you also showcased the other PSUs during the build for comparison with clearance. Either way, this build looks promising as an HTPC.
Building and overkill 3000$ pc that weighs 20KG and takes whole desk isn't anything impressive this is . With new AMPERE cards coming there will be more powerful low profile gpus to make this case even more awesome
Great reviews of SFF builds. The landscape of SFF cases continues to change, evolve and get better. Suggestion for the next build. Start with GEEEK G4 4.8L case & Flex PSU, then build a Ryzen 5700G system with DD4-3600 RAM and go from there. The case looks like it has some potential, since it supports a bottom and top 92mm X 15mm fan, would that help thermals? Build and find out.
Insane how compact this is. High quality review, as always. Thanks! This could have a somewhat bigger brother with space for additional storage so it can be used as a compact NAS/home server. The only option to add more storage into this is to use a half-height M.2 PCIe expander card.
I decided to buy a 1650 as a card to tie me over till next gen as my 980ti died on me and as my first ever budget and low powered card, I love it, I honestly don't understand the hate for it, there is nothing like this card and it's pumping out graphics comparable or better than a gtx680 would which I think needed two 6 pins to power it back in the day
@@Tekeverything if the brick is already converting the 220V to 19 or 12V what is the purpose of the Pico 160 and other small psu? Isnt the conversion all whai needed??
Keep costs down? You’re using an X570 platform in an expensive low-production case with an expensive board and you put a SATA M.2 in it? WTF?!! A 512GB NVMe drive is less than $100 now! This is 2020. Any build video not using an NVMe drive with X570 is an automatic fail for me.
Ha, you really think I would leave fart audio in a video?... I do admit that while I was editing that section I thought... "someone is gonna say that's a fart"
I'm sorry but "not gonna go with an NVMe, keep the cost down" and "an x570 aorus itx board" in the same couple of sentences, my dude please lmao what is this, why not go with a b450 and an NVMe. X570 is just for pcie gen 4 man
@@Tekeverything thanks for clarifying. Id appreciate if you do quick mention of why you picked certain things like this in the video so people who don't own certain parts previously don't make the same decisions. I appreciate the vids though, I'm actually a fan. I just have no filter when I see a mismatch of parts
Perfect content imho With all this pandemic,im going to localplay with my bros I might change the mobo to a b450m itx and the cpu to ryzen 5 1400,nvme with 480gb shud be fine while im playing with 2tb hdd ext
Great video, but I think a 3300x would be a better pairing with the 1650. It'll save money, run cooler, and wont affect gaming performance as the gpu will still be the bottleneck
Thanks for the amazing video. Do you think one could cram a 4tb 2.5 hdd inside there? And also could you please check the power draw at wall in idle mode? This is very important for people looking for a decent 24/7 plex server
@@meteormedia7021 They sure do. So do EVGA, Gigabyte, Asus, and PNY. But they are hard to find now. 2070s and 2060s are rare to find, 2060 is hit or miss.
I would really love to see a case like this with the minimum of more space to fit a 3,5" HDD - that way, you could built a nice rig with much space for cheap.
I'm looking for a small for Factor PC, but one that can play 4k games and play my 4k and HDR Movies. Any Suggestions ? Thinking of a size that would be able to fit in a 2080 TI Unless there is a low profile 2080 TI out there?
This is pretty frikkin sweet. I think when you originally released your video about the J-Hack Pure, I said how cool it would be to have this virtually cable-less build, if they just added a bay for a low-profile GPU. And well, now I feel like I have to put my money where my mouth is and buy one! Awesome little case. Only thing is that ridiculous riser cable, wonder if there already exists some kind of card you could use as a daughter-board.
It can only run a 1650 though so somewhat limited but a step in the right direction (make sure you buy the one with the gddr6 mem). Now if only we could see some new half height GPU's like a Navi or a 1660 this would be truly king but no one wants to play in the under 100watt TDP area anymore.
Is there a small itx case tha fit a mini gpu but also strong enough to support a monitor above it but providing air flow? I'm torn between this case and the k39 and metalfish s3.
I'm thinking about building a mini itx build. My case supports FLEX Atx psus, but I dont like the idea of the noise from 40mm fan they are using to cool the psu and changing the Noctua fan will cut the warranty off. So I'm thinking about getting HDPlex or some sort of but I'm so lost what wattage and external brick etc I need. My system will have: 65W TDP Ryzen (r5 3600, r3 3300x etc), 1660 super MSI Aero ITX, m.2, noctua lh9, m.2 ssd, maybe normal SSD for mass stroage, 16 gb of ram Could anyone help me out? I'm little lost.
If you skip the GPU and find or 3D print an appropriate mount do you think you can fit a 3.5 inch HDD in that space? since there will be no GPU it could overhang the slot.
I have smaller cases like a 3.5L same layout also using the hdplex problem with this build even tho they are tiny you still have to lug a around a huge ac dell, or an hdplex 200-400 acdc, I managed to purcchase a dell slim line only issue of the ac is 250w max output. and not to mention get a lp 1650 is a bit slow and niche to find one. though workable.
Saw a video on a build I think is nice but heard core performance boost leaves the build with bad temps but with it off things run cool the chip was a 5900x was not familiar with boost is this something that comes enabled? I’m trying to keep things cool. If it is how can u turn it off and will this severely impact performance for editing and gaming? Thanks been watching you videos for a while thought you would be a good person to ask.
I bit confused. You mention using the SATA drive to keep cost down but you didn't put it in during the install or show where it would even fit. NVME is a much better option for this case and if you used that you should have just said so and showed it. I'm definitely happy to be wrong if I just missed where the SATA drive went though
It's not like you don't need power, so claiming small build victory using an external power brick and not including the size of that brick is just cheating as far as I'm concerned.
There is no meaning world smallest itx case, because you cannot compare it with NUC/mac mini, the only meanful itx case is that you can install the most powerful graphics card.
I don't like a pair of things of this build: the power cables running near/in front of the GPU fans and the GPU fans themselves pointing at the bottom of the case. For the first ones, there's the danger of getting them make contact or mess with the fans. For the second thing, I see there's enough room to intake air, but I don't like it aesthetically.
Maybe I'm missing something but if you want the smallest gaming pc a nuc should be faster than this if you have to use a LP gpu. Maybe if Intel doesn't do a similar refresh to hades canyon then in a few gens this case will have greater performance but the nuc should win atm.
You can achieve lower temps on cpu using a better thermal paste, i have see one brazilian youtuber using something like liquid metal, its kind hard to apply, but the results are awesome
I don't think noise is that much of a deal for gaming, since ussually when one game you either has headphones or the music/sounds should drown must noise that came out of the pc, unless one game without sound but who does that...
I absolutely love this. 2 liters smaller volume than the NUC 9 Extreme, and with desktop hardware. This just inspires me, I want to build one of these.
When the consoles are getting bigger, the PC's are getting smaller. Damn....
Always 1 step ahead
1080/60 vs 4K/60
nope..
@@sonsofmatriarchy5552 Velka 3, with an RTX 2070 ITX and with an internal power supply, or a Dan A4 that still quite tiny and can allocate a 2080 ti or whatever you want and still smaller and probably more silent than any console, the only obvious drawback is the cost.
@@amigodesigns Better Option: Skyreach 4 with a 2070 Super or 2080 mini (if you can find one)
needs more subs tbh.. love the sff videos!
This is exactly what I was looking for! - I'm doing a similar build for a HTPC :D
This is the perfect case for that type of build
a mini-itx case which is small, nice, apparently cooling-efficient and does not cost a truckload of money? sign me in!
Very cool but the 1650 is the point why i dont want such a small case yet :(
Ooo this case looks nice as!
I'm just spending a lot of my time trying to learn and understand this building process. That being said, would pointing the GPU fans facing downward negatively affect performance at all?
Checking prices! For these its possible build bit more powerful system, of course bigger!
Great vid sir. I wish I had the budget to buy that.
does this case work well with air flow? and can it fit most parts or do you have to go with smaller parts?
Thanks for the review. But PSU is not strong enough and unsafe. Could you please check Velka case with sfx psu ?
Couldnt you accomplish the same thing with an Nvida shield + GeForce Now?
How would that be the same thing?
Isn't a Lone Industries L5 smaller and better airflow?
The L5 is larger as it has to accommodate a vertical GPU.
I am using a 3060ti and still want something like this jesus
The ways of compact and style sometimes out weighs the performance
It gets to you huh? :p I've been in an NFC S4M-C for ages and I have 2 builds planned that are just about half the size of it.
@@andrewvigil2040 How? How does it perform and what are the temps?
@@zhaiketoledo3658 The most power-hungry card I had in there was a GTX 970 and an i7-6700T. Whole system drew about 190 watts on gaming load and the GPU hovered around 78 degrees at 60% fanspeed, 20 degrees ambient. Not very loud at all, very acceptable performance and temps. I know people are fitting GTX 1080 Mini's and 2070s in there and undervolting the cards is definitely recommended to keep the fans from blaring.
@@andrewvigil2040 Do you have an instruction plan for it since i think i will be doing this aswell?
Um how u fit the l9i on am4? Thought it was L9a
Edit: oh nvm
You need a mounting bracket. U can get it from free if u already own one of the versions, check in noctuas website
why don't you have more subscribers? The content quality is on par with the bigger channels...
I guess it's a matter of time... But he also focus on SFF, so his public is a bit different of Marquees, Dave2d and Linus... I watch all then, for me each one covers a specific content better than general content..
youtube is rigged these days new yutubers content will never get grow than in the early days
@@sparcx86channel42 false
Man, I just love your SFF videos. I even built one like the one you've built for your mother (but I've used a AMD 2400G).
Nice, how did it turn out?
@@Tekeverything It worked like a charm! I used the case with the top cover with vent holes, a Aorus B450-I PRO-WIFI for mobo and a 200W power supply/adapter from RGeek.
I love how tiny this is, but not being able to fit at least a flex psu and bigger itx gpu is kind of a deal breaker for me. I think I'll be happy with the velka 3 clone I got off AliExpress... if it ever gets here.
Maybe I'll do a build in this case too and just keep whichever I end up liking more.
Интересный блок питания. Никогда о таком не слышал.
Nice scripting, pace and presentation. Right on target for my interests.
And your comment seems like a generic one :)))
Thanks for the great review, love what J-Hack brings to the SFF community.
looks good, just dont like the unknown wait for the case
this is an insane case lol wow
Also you're one of my favourite tech youtubers. Thanks for reviewing these types of cases.
Much appreciated, thanks for watching
Tek Everything hello bro and i knew with this hobbie, what is ur psu source for this itx pc?
What is that square case featured in the size comparison at 3:24? As a suggestion, may I humbly request that you identify the cases that you compare to? Thanks!
LZ7 XTD
Great review. Though, I wished you also showcased the other PSUs during the build for comparison with clearance.
Either way, this build looks promising as an HTPC.
4:42 it wasnt a fart. It was his finger being pulled across the box. You can all stop asking now
Missed it but now I want to know about 4:42
skyreach 4 mini is far more practical allows for dual-slot full-height cards at 5 liters
yeah but its almost 2 times the size, so
7:21 yo the music, the edit, the camera work... so clean!
Breaking bad feels jaja
Building and overkill 3000$ pc that weighs 20KG and takes whole desk isn't anything impressive this is .
With new AMPERE cards coming there will be more powerful low profile gpus to make this case even more awesome
Great reviews of SFF builds. The landscape of SFF cases continues to change, evolve and get better. Suggestion for the next build. Start with GEEEK G4 4.8L case & Flex PSU, then build a Ryzen 5700G system with DD4-3600 RAM and go from there. The case looks like it has some potential, since it supports a bottom and top 92mm X 15mm fan, would that help thermals? Build and find out.
That 1650 looks like a kids toy on your hands. 🤣
Insane how compact this is. High quality review, as always. Thanks!
This could have a somewhat bigger brother with space for additional storage so it can be used as a compact NAS/home server. The only option to add more storage into this is to use a half-height M.2 PCIe expander card.
Sir, I desperately need a mini itx system
for a threadripper 3990x, do you have any suggestions?
I decided to buy a 1650 as a card to tie me over till next gen as my 980ti died on me and as my first ever budget and low powered card, I love it, I honestly don't understand the hate for it, there is nothing like this card and it's pumping out graphics comparable or better than a gtx680 would which I think needed two 6 pins to power it back in the day
Great video man. You're my #1 source for small builds. You have an eye for simplicity in aesthetics that others in itx community usually lack
I appreciate that, glad you enjoy the builds as much as I do
@@Tekeverything if the brick is already converting the 220V to 19 or 12V what is the purpose of the
Pico 160 and other small psu?
Isnt the conversion all whai needed??
4:41 Was that a fart? 💨
Probably his finger slipping on the box of the Geforce in the previous shot, its a glossy coating
Lmfao It was a wet one
Ninja fart
One that still drips 15 minutes later and lubes the dingleberries to release.
Internet: exist
Users: nothing will be forgiven
tek everything doesnt make videos super often, but when he does, it's usually something that's a meaningful breakthrough in the SFF industry.
I try, I try. I see no point in making duplicate versions of videos that already exist.
this case will be perfect for zen3 APU build
id rather spend the money on materials and make it myself and spend all the leftover cash on hardware itself
Keep costs down? You’re using an X570 platform in an expensive low-production case with an expensive board and you put a SATA M.2 in it? WTF?!! A 512GB NVMe drive is less than $100 now! This is 2020. Any build video not using an NVMe drive with X570 is an automatic fail for me.
Are you going to be ok?
@@Tekeverything I sniffed my 970 Pro boxes to calm me down, so yes. That and no more Tennessee whiskey. Still, why the SATA drive?
How much did this build cost in total?
My left arm.
900? Around there that’s how much my build costed, since I found a 400w aliexpress pico pcu for like 30$
MAMIあきみあさひ bruh why the heck would you cheap out on the psu
benjamin it’s not even your average pcu also he even recommended it
Can zotac gtx 1650 (the one with the single fan) fit in this case
4:42 was that fart? :D
Or just a friction sound. Lots of those do sound like that anyway.
@@Daedy A$$ Friction.
Ha, you really think I would leave fart audio in a video?... I do admit that while I was editing that section I thought... "someone is gonna say that's a fart"
@@Tekeverything Don't you dare try to hide your flatulence
This case is a dust storage bin. They couldn’t include a dust filter which costs like 5 bucks?
You can do that for like 5 bucks.
I'm sorry but "not gonna go with an NVMe, keep the cost down" and "an x570 aorus itx board" in the same couple of sentences, my dude please lmao what is this, why not go with a b450 and an NVMe. X570 is just for pcie gen 4 man
Because I obviously already had the x570 board...
@@Tekeverything thanks for clarifying. Id appreciate if you do quick mention of why you picked certain things like this in the video so people who don't own certain parts previously don't make the same decisions. I appreciate the vids though, I'm actually a fan. I just have no filter when I see a mismatch of parts
Been thinking about maybe using an ammo box to build a little bit of post apocalyptic itx idea.
That would be cool
I’m amazed how small the psu can get, I wonder what’s it like compared to the ATX/SFX psus in terms of technology and reliability
Aw man I love your vids but you kill me saying "Em Kay Two" instead of "Mark Two" lol
Perfect content imho
With all this pandemic,im going to localplay with my bros
I might change the mobo to a b450m itx and the cpu to ryzen 5 1400,nvme with 480gb shud be fine while im playing with 2tb hdd ext
Great video, but I think a 3300x would be a better pairing with the 1650. It'll save money, run cooler, and wont affect gaming performance as the gpu will still be the bottleneck
Thanks for the amazing video. Do you think one could cram a 4tb 2.5 hdd inside there? And also could you please check the power draw at wall in idle mode? This is very important for people looking for a decent 24/7 plex server
Great! I just wish some company would make a RTX 2060 or RTX 2060 Super in a half hight formfactor.
The 2000 series nearly impossible to find even just itx form factor now.
R0GUEL0KI Zotac actually makes an ITX version of 2060, 2060 S and 2070 S.
Doubtful as they would need extra power connectors.
Power and heat would be problematic. The new 3000 series cards should give us a nice boost though.
@@meteormedia7021 They sure do. So do EVGA, Gigabyte, Asus, and PNY. But they are hard to find now. 2070s and 2060s are rare to find, 2060 is hit or miss.
Shame there aren't more options for low profile GPUs
Cool video, I loved SFF machines like this. I am just uncomfortable with the PSU. I would just stick with SFX ones.
I would really love to see a case like this with the minimum of more space to fit a 3,5" HDD - that way, you could built a nice rig with much space for cheap.
Currently looking for a case like that
It looked like you used just one of those heat transfer pads on the CPU. How much cooler would the real deal CPU thermal compounds be? 5C? 10C?
It makes sense to just get a K39 case at 4L, and use a proper 2-fan mini graphics card and TFX PSU.
I'm looking for a small for Factor PC, but one that can play 4k games and play my 4k and HDR Movies. Any Suggestions ? Thinking of a size that would be able to fit in a 2080 TI Unless there is a low profile 2080 TI out there?
This is pretty frikkin sweet. I think when you originally released your video about the J-Hack Pure, I said how cool it would be to have this virtually cable-less build, if they just added a bay for a low-profile GPU. And well, now I feel like I have to put my money where my mouth is and buy one! Awesome little case. Only thing is that ridiculous riser cable, wonder if there already exists some kind of card you could use as a daughter-board.
Maybe you can upgrade to RTX A2000, which might be the most powerful Low-Profile GPU on the market currently.
It can only run a 1650 though so somewhat limited but a step in the right direction (make sure you buy the one with the gddr6 mem). Now if only we could see some new half height GPU's like a Navi or a 1660 this would be truly king but no one wants to play in the under 100watt TDP area anymore.
Can i use zotac gtx 1650 does it fit?
Hello! So, what about 3900x + 2070super?? Fractal nano202?? For work with 3d design, render
Is there a small itx case tha fit a mini gpu but also strong enough to support a monitor above it but providing air flow? I'm torn between this case and the k39 and metalfish s3.
I'm thinking about building a mini itx build. My case supports FLEX Atx psus, but I dont like the idea of the noise from 40mm fan they are using to cool the psu and changing the Noctua fan will cut the warranty off. So I'm thinking about getting HDPlex or some sort of but I'm so lost what wattage and external brick etc I need.
My system will have: 65W TDP Ryzen (r5 3600, r3 3300x etc), 1660 super MSI Aero ITX, m.2, noctua lh9, m.2 ssd, maybe normal SSD for mass stroage, 16 gb of ram
Could anyone help me out? I'm little lost.
Depending on what options you choose this pc can be $120!!!! THIS IS LITERALLY A BOX OF ALUMINUM WITH HOLES IN IT!?!?!??!?!?
You think somehow the HDPLEX Gan ATX passive PSU would fit in the case, its smaller than flex ATX and you wouldn't need a external power brick.
is there a more powerful gpu you could use instead of the 1650?
I wonder if this is good for even 4k, especially with games using DLSS, etc. Older games that do not have DLSS might even get decent framerate
Are these power supply units reliable?
I wonder if there will be low-profile models of the RTX 3050. Although I think the fastest low-profile gpu right now is Nvidia RTX a2000 12GB.
If you skip the GPU and find or 3D print an appropriate mount do you think you can fit a 3.5 inch HDD in that space? since there will be no GPU it could overhang the slot.
Hope you're still making videos man you're my favorite reviewer by far.
I appreciate that! I have some things in the works.
I have smaller cases like a 3.5L same layout also using the hdplex problem with this build even tho they are tiny you still have to lug a around a huge ac dell, or an hdplex 200-400 acdc, I managed to purcchase a dell slim line only issue of the ac is 250w max output. and not to mention get a lp 1650 is a bit slow and niche to find one. though workable.
I see your parts list, where is the power brick item? i can't see it......soo without internal PSU, The 3,1L is not smallest ITX ever dude.....
Saw a video on a build I think is nice but heard core performance boost leaves the build with bad temps but with it off things run cool the chip was a 5900x was not familiar with boost is this something that comes enabled? I’m trying to keep things cool. If it is how can u turn it off and will this severely impact performance for editing and gaming? Thanks been watching you videos for a while thought you would be a good person to ask.
I bit confused. You mention using the SATA drive to keep cost down but you didn't put it in during the install or show where it would even fit. NVME is a much better option for this case and if you used that you should have just said so and showed it. I'm definitely happy to be wrong if I just missed where the SATA drive went though
I hope u see this
If you do i hope u get 100k or maybe more within 1 year
Please suggest me the smallest ITX case with built-in PSU & a dedicated GPU. Don't like external brick.
it can handle ryzen 5 5600x? any suggestion of my build please cpu is ryzen 5 5600x with case what can you suggest? please guide me
It's not like you don't need power, so claiming small build victory using an external power brick and not including the size of that brick is just cheating as far as I'm concerned.
Screw the Xbox Series S, build one yourself with the A2000 12GB
Would have been nicer if you explained how the whole powersupply part of this works better.
There is no meaning world smallest itx case, because you cannot compare it with NUC/mac mini, the only meanful itx case is that you can install the most powerful graphics card.
I don't like a pair of things of this build: the power cables running near/in front of the GPU fans and the GPU fans themselves pointing at the bottom of the case.
For the first ones, there's the danger of getting them make contact or mess with the fans. For the second thing, I see there's enough room to intake air, but I don't like it aesthetically.
is low profile gpu 1050 for gamin? No thanks, maybe this will be better if will 1 inch wider (for common gpu)
Maybe I'm missing something but if you want the smallest gaming pc a nuc should be faster than this if you have to use a LP gpu. Maybe if Intel doesn't do a similar refresh to hades canyon then in a few gens this case will have greater performance but the nuc should win atm.
Great video and what an awesome little case. Need to read up on these PSU types etc.
Microsoft: this was our Xbox One X Alpha build but we wanted more power
I want to spray paint this thing beige white and make it look like a really old sleeper IBM Pentium 2 computer.
all of this components are not available in Bangladesh. it's not affordable for me😞. love to see this video😍. it's very relaxing😳
Awesome vid but you're using a graphite sheet instead of paste in a build where cpu cooling is already limited?? How come?
Do this with a rtx a2000
Oh I will. Thats coming,
You can achieve lower temps on cpu using a better thermal paste, i have see one brazilian youtuber using something like liquid metal, its kind hard to apply, but the results are awesome
Can a Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1650 4 GB MINI ITX OC Video Card fit in there?????
I don't think noise is that much of a deal for gaming, since ussually when one game you either has headphones or the music/sounds should drown must noise that came out of the pc, unless one game without sound but who does that...
Why not show power supply?
Or is it not important for the mobile assembly that you carry in your backpack?
Can you do a K39 case ultimate build? I think it’s much smaller than this one and it doesn’t have that cable box look
I want to buy one. I can in parts but I prefer already assembled. What is the price approximately?
Can u review sff case for gpu like gigabyte 1650 low profile i think will be great content for real ssf fans
That ain't small, it's god damn large shitty case! Where are more APU only cases ?!!?
I absolutely love this. 2 liters smaller volume than the NUC 9 Extreme, and with desktop hardware. This just inspires me, I want to build one of these.