2001-2010 Chrysler Sebring 2.7L water pump timing chain removal pt.1
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- Part 1. How to fix, or replace the water pump. Coolant leaking from the front of your engine? This might be why. This was a 2002 Sebring. This engine was made for many vehicles, and should be about the same job. The engine was also made for 1998-2004 Chrysler Concorde, 1998-2004 Dodge Intrepid, 2001-2006 Stratus, 2005-2008 Magnum, 2005-2010 Chrysler 300, 2006-2010 Charger, and 2008-2010 Avenger. Maybe more. 1999 2000 2003 2006 2007 2009 leak 99 00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10
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Very thorough depiction of how much work is involved in this repair. You have convinced me NOT to tackle this myself.Thank you
I payed Dodge to do mine . Well worth it .
Yeah i will dodge that job
@@OneZombieKiller What did Dodge charge you to do this job? I believe it's an 8-hour job.
@@Keeping-It-Real-55 it was around 1,000 , but that was a few years ago
@@OneZombieKiller ouch, It's kind of what I thought.
Thanks for the video! Good job! I mistakenly bought a car with one of these engines. 2002 Stratus. It had low miles, ran good, was in great shape (body, paint, interior, etc.) Now I have to do this job because I’m getting noise from the valve train. I’m pulling the engine, doing a top end rebuild, water pump, replacing rocker arms and HLAs as needed. Then I’m trading this thing in on ANYTHING that has a decent motor! I didn’t do any research on this engine and feel like I got suckered (by myself). Lesson learned. Caveat emptor!
I'm working on yet another one of these mechanical "marvels". Lol
Mind you there was no indication of a problem other than the coolant seemed to have been disappearing for a few months prior to the failure. There was a short time where it left a small puddle on the ground when parked overnight but that cleared itself up somehow & kept going for months with just a small amount of coolant disappearing. If it would have been taken to a competent mechanic like this guy in the video then the pressure test would surely have pinpointed the problem & saved a great deal of extra labor & cost. Yet, here we are.
First you have the water pump as an internal part of the engine. Water and oil just awaiting catastrophic failure, it's not IF but WHEN. In the case of the engine I'm working on the failure of the water pump bearing quickly turned catastrophic when the water pump's chain sprocket became so sloppy that it busted the timing chain resulting in a few teeth broken off the sprocket & pieces of metal all over in the pan, a broken chain guide & who knows what else I'll find when I get it completely apart. Naturally being an interference engine there's going to be some bent valves so the heads will have to come off.
At 3:30 One of the stupidest things I've seen when doing work on an engine, Chrysler's safety clip for the safety clip!! What a P.I.T.A. !!! Doesn't say much for their original safety latch on their connectors does it??
"oh it doesn't latch very well?? Let us just put another safety latch on the safety latch so it won't come unplugged!!"
Sure that costs far more than just designing the latch right the first time so it doesn't need another latch to keep the first latch connected!!
Like you say in the video, "stupid stupid stupid!"
It's downright ridiculous! It's like a third grader designed the damn connectors, although I'm sure most third graders could do better so that's giving the Chrysler engineers a lot of credit. I mean cheese & rice! It's not like it's the space shuttle or anything of that nature! If they were so damn worried about the connectors coming undone they should've just designed them right to begin with!!
Yet another prime example of Chrysler's equal opportunity employment & hiring the handicapped and/or impaired.
Thanks for reading my rants & raves! Have a good one.
Ford did the same thing with the 3.5. Hardly anyone replaces them. Dump it at 100k.
Thanks for the video. Just changed the water outlet housing and then the thermostat and its still overheating. No typical water pump symptoms but its leaking all under the engine and I don't see coolant circulating so its likely the pump. I read the chilton's manual which is not very helpful but your video is great.
This was one of my fist attempts of making a video. Thanks for watching.
Thanks for reminding where that torque bit bolt went in on the timing cover life saver!
Great video. Love the Tool playing in the background as well
Even the mechanics refuse to work on this engine lol. Lots of work.
A note to guys doing this chain which may through you a curve is that once you set your marks and rotate engine the link marks will not line up again this will happen and its ok only the crank and cam marks matter disregard the colored links after engine rotation
Robert Urkevich they will line up again someday. Maybe not today, or tomarrow, but someday. Hope you enjoyed the video.
To the OP; there would be more views, but I bet 99% of these motors are in junkyards. Good job making the rest of us thankful we don’t have one.
Actually, my analytics say the number of daily views is about the same as when I first made it. It's not that old though either.
Dude thanks so much for the video you definitely have the best video here!
Thanks for watching!
@@RustBeltAuto good videotape 2.7 motor blows...
@@everettgomoll6694 it sucks, and blows.
I'd have no problem taking it out. I just couldn't remember where half of the bolts went on reinstallation. 😅 By the way good job definitely showed me It's beyond my skill level.
It should be a crime to sell an engine with a water pump built into the engine.
Yup just like a 2010 ford edge 3.5
I agree. Mines is in the shop now. This is horrible
I have turning wrenches for over 40 years and I have done three of these jobs and yes they do take every bit of 10 hours to do. Who ever designed this set up needs to be bitch slapped.
And the job pays only like 7 hours. There goes my productivity
Wow , I gotta sell mine now , so thanks. Too little room to bother. But thanks for sharing. I'll stick with my other Chevy pickup.
When my mechanic told me how much work was involved in this I felt he was playing with my head ☹️
I'm not understanding why you did not properly align the chain with the indicators on the the crankshaft and pulleys. How should everything look after "tentioning" the chain?
I put it on the same way I took it off. It was all lined up. The proof is the fact that it's running.
this is why chrysler had a major lawsuit against them on the design of the motor and the failure rate and repair costs,, TOTALLY RIDICULOUS
Oh really!!!!!
@@RustBeltAuto Lawsuit details / link? Who won? I had issues.
@@JamesMattus never heard of it. Ask the other guy.
Lawsuit details / link? Who won? I had issues.
Ford had one too and they won theirs. Can you believe that? Stupid 3.5
So Glad I played Dodge to fix mine . It would seem easier just to yank it out , but that's just me .
Did the dodge boyz yank it out?
@@RustBeltAuto No I highly doubt it , I do remember being costly and I see why now .
Replaced the thermostat three times thinking I didn't replace it correctly. I kept thinking the leak was my fault. First time working on a thermostat that was buried inside an engine. stupid idea to put it there... There's a special place in hell for the designer of this engine.
great video, did not know that was a weep hole, i plugged mine with a wooden peg but i think ill pull that out for thw next guy now 😆 but i was inside the thermostat housing and it was leaking when i went to put it back so ill see if it leaks at all-was wondering what could happen if i leave it plugged even though i dont plan on it
If it leaks, it has to go somewhere. What's your oil looking like?
This job seems like a royal pain in the ass. I have a neighbor with a 2003 Chrysler Sebring. Needs of water pump. 120,000 mi only once 500 bucks for it. But it cost more than that for the labor. Lol
Good Lord. I have a 2005 Chrysler 300 with this motor. It currently has 134,000 miles and purrs like a kitten. However, now I’m thinking I should sell it while I still can. This would cost a fortune to do at pretty much any shop. Can’t believe they stuck that water pump in the damn block. Idiots. Edit 12-18-2019: Sold it.
. Ya sold Good because my 06 is going bad at 140,000. Miles. HA.HA.HA
Ford 3.5 has the same design. I’ve heard people say most shops won’t even touch it. Too much work. $2500 job.
Thank you for wideo
Everything you removed was necessary?
Yes
Very informative video. Have a slight drip from the weep hole and now realize what’s in store. Was wondering if you also noticed an engine vibration at approx 1500 rpm?? (Pump bearings maybe?) And could you maybe give a ballpark estimate $$$ to anticipate from repair shops?? Many thanks
Vibration, no codes, I would check motor mounts first. Don't do estimates.
. Please let me know what ya paid. Because most shops won't touch it. But 1 place said $1,100.+ parts. So my guess is more or less $1,300. HA.HA.HA.HA.HA
Just bought a replacement pump at O'Reilly I. Florida, 49.90 + tax. Been thinking about returning it ever since I saw the timing gear teeth on it 😭
so ive got no heat in my 2010 Sebring convertible, my mechanic says its a blown head gasket but i got no coolant in my oil and no smoke out of the exhaust, but at the same time i have no leaking coolant, any advise, could it actually be only a bad waterpump?
Check your coolant level when cold. The radiator has pressure when hot. If the car is hot, and coolant is full you can put your hands on the hoses for the heater core, and they should both be hot.
TY for this.
Shirley!
They are saying they wont replace my water pump without doing the timing chain for risk they may mess up the chain. Is that sound right.
Wrong is right
a question guys ? can I put 2005 04 sebring covertible to sebring 4 doors lx shock absorbers front 2.7 both cars thank you
Ask the parts store.
Man i wish u lived by me. I need this done to mine. Yow much did you end up charging
I don't work for strangers. Don't remember the money thing either.
Any idea why my replacement parts and chain would be different on my 2002 Chrysler sebring convertible 2.7? The chain is much thicker than the old one.
Ronny Ziesmer no idea. Sounds wrong. Might need to ask someone who knows more than I. Maybe it's updated part?
Rust Belt Auto I was thinking it might be updated but have no clue on how to find out.
Ronny Ziesmer call and ask a parts store to make sure there is not a cut off year. Could be older.
You can break the engine down into three groups, 1998-2001, 2002-2006, 2007-2010. Each group had an improvement over the last. Check with your dealer. Here is a secret Cloyes Gear and Products got the bid to build the timing chain, Melling did the gears, TRW did the tensioner, next year that was moved around between them. One year, 2002 was all made in Mexico by Dynagear, Inc. Due to many factors Chrysler never uses just one supplier for any one part.
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I don't speak Turkish, or whatever that is.
Water Pump = $45.00 Labor , $1000.00
Nice to see this old video is still awake. Thanks for finding it.
Mamaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!! 😨😨😨😨😨
😂😂😂😂 i have a headache watching this
These are reuseable....um....I'm not going to? I'm supposed to but....um....I'm not going to?
Jesus f****** Christ I got to get rid of this car.
Me too. :( I was quoted $2500 for repairs. 7 hrs Labor! At least I knew they weren't just cheating me.
You can’t build a POS like the 2.7 by accident. Chrysler worked very hard to design garbage.
An accident? You mean like I tripped, and you fell?
@@RustBeltAuto No, like Chrysler tripped and their customers fell.
I think that I am doing one of these pos shortly myself wtf
Someone must really like you.
@@RustBeltAuto My son lol
For somebody who claims to have seen worse videos and attampting to make a better one… I can see that you tried, a b for effort, but an F for the rest. Sorry dude!
Maybe you should make a better one, so everybody can be a critic on you.
What is the point of your comment? I've been working on cars for 35 years and videos like this help me more than anything else. You can't even get your hand in many of the places that his camera shows. You would know this if you knew how to do anything except type shit.
@@RustBeltAuto goodness, why the long toes? I applaud your effort and like it very much you took the time to make it. I simply point out that with some (very cheap) aids like a spider-grab or a magnetic tripod you can improve your work significantly while the viewer can keep his stomach-content there where it belongs. Dude! Why aggressive straight away?