I'm doing this exact job right now and everything you said was right on the money, very colorful commentary too. I also agreed with the part about the engineers!
You have provided me info I couldn't find anywhere else - I pulled the engine out the top and I wish I would have taken the front cover/motor mount off first as it was really tight to remove with it on. I now have to replace a spun rod bearing. I agree that this is the worst design ever but I got the car cheap. Thanks for such an in depth installation!
It's not the worst design ever. I can thank the Germans for that hands down. Spun rod bearing=crankshaft, connecting rod replacement, bla bla bla. Might as well get another engine. Good luck! Thanks for watching.
Excellent step by step, no kidding. I have a 2002 convertible and I'm still on the fence whether I change that water pump or bring it to a dealer. I've seen four or five videos and instructional book renderings of how to install that water pump and timing chain kit. I want you to know that you have the exceptional ability from hardcore experience. I wish you were local, I'd bring my car to you. I have my fingers crossed, maybe I'll drive it until it's got 120k on it and I'll trade it in before it goes. That engine is a nightmare to maintain, I've worked on it to replace plenty of hoses, coolant bleed housing, spark plugs. My hat's off to you, you're the best 2.7 expert I've seen in the media.
I appreciated your video and your commentary is similar to what I would think when getting pissed off at bad design characteristics that result with extra work and worry. I design stuff so I've had to answer for being inconsiderate. Anyway, I'm guessing that took you 12 hours to complete the water pump install. Is that about correct? It's a guess.
@@charlestatakis9363 doing video makes it take longer. I don't count. Whatever Chrysler says about labor on this is probably pissing off every tech on the planet.
I just finished replacing the water pump on my 2003 sebring lxi with 87,000 miles. The video was excellent except for the tensioner installation. It has to be installed compressed 😊
The end of those cams have easy adjust all you need is 3/4 extension and breaker bar but like how many informative your video is compared to many others doing repairs
Those are suppose to flap around in deactivated state after plate is on with no pressure pushing against it you need to reactivate by prying between guide and block it will spring out
You are supposed to install the tensioner in the deactivated or depressed position. To deactivate it, you compress it slowly until about 3/4 of an inch of the tensioner is left exposed. After you install it, use a long screw driver with a piece of rubber hose or electrical tape wrapped around it so that you don't damage the guide. Stick the screw driver between the guide and the camshaft sprocket and use the sprocket for leverage to depress the tensioner the rest of the way and then when you release it, the tensioner will release into the extended position and take up all the chain slack on the passenger side of the chain. Before doing so, you should rotate the crankshaft clockwise enough to remove all the slack from the drivers side of the chain
Excellent true to life video done inside vehicle. Gonna start on my 2005 2.7 stratus water pump just blew out. Timing chain water pump. Gonna attempt the head gaskets cause had a small leak exhaust side for a while, never h2o in oil till yesterday when WPump went. Just wondering you think the head will fit with exhaust manifold on fire wall side? I know from experience manifold bolts not coming out easily. Why fix the stratus? Runs perfectly, in great shape & me & the dodge spent a lot of time together replacing a/c comp all suspension components, axles, injectors, trany fluid filter & return line flush, etc.
A water pump inside the engine ; just brillent when you know that a water pump is the first thing to go in a car. And before they break, they leak water , which in oil will destroy your engine in hours. This is a Niessen gift to America and is a gift that keeps on giving in Ford and all Niessen and a number of other popular car brands that sneak these engines into their shotty cars. A $6,000 dollar Bick lighter.
All the while, the government gives them tax credits to stay in business, so essentially tax payers are paying for inferior products before they even purchase anything. They file bankruptcy, shuffle paperwork, get more tax credits, and stay in business to make more 6,000$ bic lighters. I like Asian cars. They make better products all around.
Hi, good video and I believe the engineers at Dodge were trying to produce a sound vehicle because the water pump has weep hole port; however , the seal at the impeller is open to the crankcase and that seal is the weak link. Ford has the same set-up in the Durotec but without the weep hole drain outside the engine which become Fords big problem . Chrysler/Dodge Vans do not have this water pump set-up and the engines will go over 200,000 miles.
Yeah, I just replaced the exhaust valve seals with heads in car. Those back three cylinders were a major bitch. I was cussing all day long and was jumping for joy once I finally got the retainers in for last cylinder. Car no longer smokes. Time to sell it... hate working on the Sebring!
Really informative thanks so much i now have more knowledge then when i started a customer's car first time doing water pump on this specific engine setup how long did it take you from start to finish
Forever is when a job cannot get done soon enough. That is how long it took. Don't worry, if you are on the clock, it will make you look bad. How long, how long, how much longer? Shoot the clock.
@@RustBeltAuto . I been using my elderly mom's 06 so it don't sit. Car at 142,k & weep hole leaking. I looked at maintenance paperwork & 1 ignorant sister's payed = $263. for Labor, Diagnose Coolant Leakage, Replace Upper Coolant Outlet, Replace Thermostant. (1 Upper Engine Water Outlet=$123.) (1 Thermostat=$29.) (1 Thermostat Gasket=$11.) (8 Qt. Universal Coolant at $5. each=$40.) Total bad mechanic + bad sis = STUPID. HA.HA.HA = $466. 😭
Your comment about the engineers smoking crack was the only thing that kept us goin in this dumb ass project 😂😂 thank you for the great videos on this dumb ass car
I put a dog toy that wisels on a rubber hose and stick it in number one plug hole when I turn the crank and it stop wistling your tdc on my votec 4.3 the water pump was easy on my truck still have forty psi oil pressure at idle on a hot day.i just bought a 2002 Sebring convertible 2.7 thanks for the video .
The fact that the Cad Cam Engineers dream up these motors without any regard for the poor SOB’s that actually have to work on them when the get sone mileage on them is a crime!!
Good, first of all I congratulate you for your very good explanatory videos. I consult you, if it is a process for a Dodge Journey 2.7 V6. And I also consult you, if the oil canister, it can go out below, without lowering the engine. Thank you.
Boy you aren’t wrong on the smokin crack comment, I’ve never seen such a screwed up bush of shit in my life , who puts a water pump in the fricken crankcase, awesome video man I really appreciate it
Good grief I had no idea it was such a pain in the ass. Watched a video of a water pump replacement on a GM 3.1. Done in 30 minutes. Would it be easier to remove the engine to replace the water pump? Nice job and you or any mechanic who tackles this job has the patience of Job. Cheers!
Junk the POS The Dukes of Hazzard should be jumping these pieces of crap and totaling these worthless pieces of crap instead of the real Dodge Chargers
@@RustBeltAuto im learning kore and more every day that it is just easier to take the engine out of half of these modern cars than to dick around in a cramped space
I have done 3 intrepid water pumps. I have been asked for an estimate on the labor hours on a Sebring. What is reasonable?... btw the commentary is spot on.... ashamed to admit I have said worse.
Every Chrysler engineer and design employee during the planning and production of these vehicles should be held accountable for their complete and utter incompetence. The consumer has had to pay blood, sweat and tears (let alone the money) for Chryslers fraud and deception for this gross negligence. If it was not fraudulent and deception on Chryslers part, then only pure stupidity could be the reason. And they should have to accountable for that too.
Just went through the same thing shit took almost two days one day to take everything down then said fuck it. Then next day to put everything on and back the places an location they decide to put stuff I agree they were smoking crazy 😝
LOL! Chrysler engineers smoke crack! well thats possible. but that timing chain tensioner you have to compress and push it in then screw on the cover. then tap it with a pry bar to release it. you can test it on the table compressing it and releasing it
I totally understand your anger and frustration with this engine I hate it it comes straight from hell I know I've done two of them they totally suck stupid ass design putting a water pump in side . what the f***
Boy are you so correct about Chrysler engineers smoking crack in designing this car, I have an 06 sebring with the 2.7 and it was a great purchase for only 400 bucks with 110k on it, it now is starting to have an overheat problem, and have had success with just changing the temp sensor, but I think the pump is failing or has failed? first thing I did was run full sythectic oil so as not to sludge the crankcase and wipe main bearings out, but this job looks like a bitch, I have changed starter pain in the ass job, altenator pain too, but im not a mechanic, might be selling it? lol, it has 175k on it now and I think its the factory pump? suppose to change every 75k, piss on that, loved your video, im now a fan, thanks.
Chrysler Engineers smokin crack, I love it. Couldn’t agree more!
I'm doing this exact job right now and everything you said was right on the money, very colorful commentary too. I also agreed with the part about the engineers!
You have provided me info I couldn't find anywhere else - I pulled the engine out the top and I wish I would have taken the front cover/motor mount off first as it was really tight to remove with it on. I now have to replace a spun rod bearing. I agree that this is the worst design ever but I got the car cheap. Thanks for such an in depth installation!
It's not the worst design ever. I can thank the Germans for that hands down. Spun rod bearing=crankshaft, connecting rod replacement, bla bla bla. Might as well get another engine. Good luck! Thanks for watching.
Excellent step by step, no kidding. I have a 2002 convertible and I'm still on the fence whether I change that water pump or bring it to a dealer. I've seen four or five videos and instructional book renderings of how to install that water pump and timing chain kit. I want you to know that you have the exceptional ability from hardcore experience. I wish you were local, I'd bring my car to you. I have my fingers crossed, maybe I'll drive it until it's got 120k on it and I'll trade it in before it goes. That engine is a nightmare to maintain, I've worked on it to replace plenty of hoses, coolant bleed housing, spark plugs. My hat's off to you, you're the best 2.7 expert I've seen in the media.
I don't know what I'm doing until it's done. Thanks for watching.
I appreciated your video and your commentary is similar to what I would think when getting pissed off at bad design characteristics that result with extra work and worry. I design stuff so I've had to answer for being inconsiderate. Anyway, I'm guessing that took you 12 hours to complete the water pump install. Is that about correct? It's a guess.
@@charlestatakis9363 doing video makes it take longer. I don't count. Whatever Chrysler says about labor on this is probably pissing off every tech on the planet.
I just finished replacing the water pump on my 2003 sebring lxi with 87,000 miles. The video was excellent except for the tensioner installation. It has to be installed compressed 😊
The end of those cams have easy adjust all you need is 3/4 extension and breaker bar but like how many informative your video is compared to many others doing repairs
Extension pops right into square
Those are spring loaded tension you need to reactivate the spring before oil pump gets oil to chain
Those are suppose to flap around in deactivated state after plate is on with no pressure pushing against it you need to reactivate by prying between guide and block it will spring out
You are supposed to install the tensioner in the deactivated or depressed position. To deactivate it, you compress it slowly until about 3/4 of an inch of the tensioner is left exposed. After you install it, use a long screw driver with a piece of rubber hose or electrical tape wrapped around it so that you don't damage the guide. Stick the screw driver between the guide and the camshaft sprocket and use the sprocket for leverage to depress the tensioner the rest of the way and then when you release it, the tensioner will release into the extended position and take up all the chain slack on the passenger side of the chain. Before doing so, you should rotate the crankshaft clockwise enough to remove all the slack from the drivers side of the chain
Thanks for the tip.
Excellent true to life video done inside vehicle. Gonna start on my 2005 2.7 stratus water pump just blew out. Timing chain water pump. Gonna attempt the head gaskets cause had a small leak exhaust side for a while, never h2o in oil till yesterday when WPump went. Just wondering you think the head will fit with exhaust manifold on fire wall side? I know from experience manifold bolts not coming out easily. Why fix the stratus? Runs perfectly, in great shape & me & the dodge spent a lot of time together replacing a/c comp all suspension components, axles, injectors, trany fluid filter & return line flush, etc.
After watching this whole video why do I have the urge to watch, “Everybody loves Raymond”?
Great work video!
I agree with the crack smoke…I felt like that when I went to change the battery in my Sebring and found out I had to take off the tire to get to it….
😂😂😂😂
Funny your right it’s a nightmare on my charger I have to change water pump I hope I don’t need an oil pump thank you for tips
EXELENTE vídeo felicitaciones !!!!!
A water pump inside the engine ; just brillent when you know that a water pump is the first thing to go in a car. And before they break, they leak water , which in oil will destroy your engine in hours. This is a Niessen gift to America and is a gift that keeps on giving in Ford and all Niessen and a number of other popular car brands that sneak these engines into their shotty cars. A $6,000 dollar Bick lighter.
All the while, the government gives them tax credits to stay in business, so essentially tax payers are paying for inferior products before they even purchase anything. They file bankruptcy, shuffle paperwork, get more tax credits, and stay in business to make more 6,000$ bic lighters. I like Asian cars. They make better products all around.
Hi, good video and I believe the engineers at Dodge were trying to produce a sound vehicle because the water pump has weep hole port; however , the seal at the impeller is open to the crankcase and that seal is the weak link. Ford has the same set-up in the Durotec but without the weep hole drain outside the engine which become Fords big problem . Chrysler/Dodge Vans do not have this water pump set-up and the engines will go over 200,000 miles.
@@terrywayneHamilton a water pump is a maintenance item. As far as I'm concerned, it does not belong there.
@@RustBeltAuto You can only wonder why Ford designed the Durotec with a water pump in the oil bay.
You mean the Ford Edge/Taurus/PI/Explorer 3.5/3.7L internal chain driven water pump? Yes, Fix Or Repair Daily screwed up big time on that one.
I love them commentary! I bet you are glad it's done. You were cracking me up man.
Thanks for watching. I think I made the best video for that job. We will see. It sucked.
Yeah, I just replaced the exhaust valve seals with heads in car. Those back three cylinders were a major bitch. I was cussing all day long and was jumping for joy once I finally got the retainers in for last cylinder. Car no longer smokes. Time to sell it... hate working on the Sebring!
I would have let it smoke. Fantastic car. Thanks for watching!
I have the same engine...you're hilarious and 100% correct...Bloody Chrysler engineering is on crack!
There is no engineering...just cram a generic engine into every body platform
I have a question
I can't get mine to line up
How did you turn the cams to set timing
Did everything and the car starts up but it sounds bad like a clicking and squeaking noise but run and drives... Any idea of what this is?
I don't know.
@@RustBeltAutomy tension failed to extend so I think it's that.
Your commentary had me cracking up;)
Well... I wasn't trying to be funny?
What do you do if the car is out of time Do you just take the chain that's on it and re align it with Tiny marks
You assemble it the same way with the original chain, as you would with a new one.
@@RustBeltAuto ok thank you for the response
Really informative thanks so much i now have more knowledge then when i started a customer's car first time doing water pump on this specific engine setup how long did it take you from start to finish
Forever is when a job cannot get done soon enough. That is how long it took. Don't worry, if you are on the clock, it will make you look bad. How long, how long, how much longer? Shoot the clock.
@@RustBeltAuto any tips
@@keithwolff1 junk it, and take up fishing. Sorry, everyone is subject to a smartass comment. Thanks for watching!
@@RustBeltAuto lol wish i could but fishing sounds nice right about now
@@RustBeltAuto . I been using my elderly mom's 06 so it don't sit. Car at 142,k & weep hole leaking. I looked at maintenance paperwork & 1 ignorant sister's payed = $263. for Labor, Diagnose Coolant Leakage, Replace Upper Coolant Outlet, Replace Thermostant. (1 Upper Engine Water Outlet=$123.) (1 Thermostat=$29.) (1 Thermostat Gasket=$11.) (8 Qt. Universal Coolant at $5. each=$40.) Total bad mechanic + bad sis = STUPID. HA.HA.HA = $466. 😭
The commentary at 9:00 😂😂😂😂😂
Fuckin hilarious engineers from Chrysler smoke craaaaack this guy is the My Mad Comedian
Your comment about the engineers smoking crack was the only thing that kept us goin in this dumb ass project 😂😂 thank you for the great videos on this dumb ass car
Me, being a elder, 60 year young, shade tree mechanic. Admire Good honest people who take pride in their work, like you do.!!! HA.HA.HA
Did you have to turn the crank until the #1 piston is TDC?
Yes, I always do before I do any timing work. #1 TDC on the compression stroke. If all the marks are lined up correctly, that is all that matters.
@@RustBeltAuto okay.
I put a dog toy that wisels on a rubber hose and stick it in number one plug hole when I turn the crank and it stop wistling your tdc on my votec 4.3 the water pump was easy on my truck still have forty psi oil pressure at idle on a hot day.i just bought a 2002 Sebring convertible 2.7 thanks for the video .
The fact that the Cad Cam Engineers dream up these motors without any regard for the poor SOB’s that actually have to work on them when the get sone mileage on them is a crime!!
How long did it take you to do all of this
I don't know.
Good, first of all I congratulate you for your very good explanatory videos. I consult you, if it is a process for a Dodge Journey 2.7 V6. And I also consult you, if the oil canister, it can go out below, without lowering the engine. Thank you.
First question, yes, they are both LH 2.7L engines. Second question, I don't understand the question, so I will say, I don't know.
@@RustBeltAuto
ok, thanks, the query is how to remove the oil pan, which goes down the engine block.
@@hectorenriquelopez3784 don't know. Havn't had to do one yet.
Boy you aren’t wrong on the smokin crack comment, I’ve never seen such a screwed up bush of shit in my life , who puts a water pump in the fricken crankcase, awesome video man I really appreciate it
Best video for sure👌🏼👌🏼😂
Thanks!
I like your style bud
I made myself ;P. Thanks for watching!
Good grief I had no idea it was such a pain in the ass. Watched a video of a water pump replacement on a GM 3.1. Done in 30 minutes.
Would it be easier to remove the engine to replace the water pump?
Nice job and you or any mechanic who tackles this job has the patience of Job.
Cheers!
Lol... You just said the words remove engine, and easy in the same sentence. You crazy! Thanks for watching.
Junk the POS The Dukes of Hazzard should be jumping these pieces of crap and totaling these worthless pieces of crap instead of the real Dodge Chargers
Dodge King agreed.heartbreaking
@@RustBeltAuto im learning kore and more every day that it is just easier to take the engine out of half of these modern cars than to dick around in a cramped space
I have done 3 intrepid water pumps. I have been asked for an estimate on the labor hours on a Sebring. What is reasonable?... btw the commentary is spot on.... ashamed to admit I have said worse.
The parts and labor time guide is all lies.
Every Chrysler engineer and design employee during the planning and production of these vehicles should be held accountable for their complete and utter incompetence. The consumer has had to pay blood, sweat and tears (let alone the money) for Chryslers fraud and deception for this gross negligence. If it was not fraudulent and deception on Chryslers part, then only pure stupidity could be the reason. And they should have to accountable for that too.
Did it run
chantel rhine like the wind... Or just a Chrysler product.
never heard of chain break, like the GM products ! Just the water pump goes,,
Thanks for bringing common sense to the internet...Crack..off to work on mine...
Good luck!
Just went through the same thing shit took almost two days one day to take everything down then said fuck it. Then next day to put everything on and back the places an location they decide to put stuff I agree they were smoking crazy 😝
You sound like me
LOL! Chrysler engineers smoke crack! well thats possible. but that timing chain tensioner you have to compress and push it in then screw on the cover. then tap it with a pry bar to release it. you can test it on the table compressing it and releasing it
Thanks!
Smokin crack😂😂😂😂😂🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿
had me rolling
I totally understand your anger and frustration with this engine I hate it it comes straight from hell I know I've done two of them they totally suck stupid ass design putting a water pump in side . what the f***
It's a comedy. Whatever it is, I don't take it home. That way I can have good dreams at night.
Boy are you so correct about Chrysler engineers smoking crack in designing this car, I have an 06 sebring with the 2.7 and it was a great purchase for only 400 bucks with 110k on it, it now is starting to have an overheat problem, and have had success with just changing the temp sensor, but I think the pump is failing or has failed? first thing I did was run full sythectic oil so as not to sludge the crankcase and wipe main bearings out, but this job looks like a bitch, I have changed starter pain in the ass job, altenator pain too, but im not a mechanic, might be selling it? lol, it has 175k on it now and I think its the factory pump? suppose to change every 75k, piss on that, loved your video, im now a fan, thanks.
Sorry, but I'm not into fandomship. Sounds like you got some good time out of it for the price. Glad you enjoyed my video. Thanks for watching!
That's all good, I meant im a fan of your videos not you, lol.
I've done this job before and it is a piss and moan job
. So, please= how much $ for The Good job ya did. & thanks for The video. HA.HA.HA
I don't believe it is polite to talk about money.
Fyi it's a Mitsubishi engine so thank the japs
lee Iacocca. AMC, Eagle, Renault, then Mitsubishi, then Mercedes, Then, now Fiat. Who they use next depends on their next bankruptcy.
Lmao
How to fix chrysler sebring? Don't buy one to begin with. Me no like internal chain driven water pump hahaha.
lololol so f dum
damn, I have Never heard anybody complain so much before.
You must not know any mechanics who work on these wonderful Chrysler products.