Absolute joke for a design Mopar should be ashamed to have their name on such a product Then again todays mopar isn't the Mopar from the pentastar years
Thank you jesus for this video🙏🙏🙏,cause I just almost made the mistake of buying a 2003 Concorde with this POS 2.7L engine. Fiiuuuu, Good video bro...saved me from a headache. 🤣🤣🤣 .
thanks for the informative video. I had a 2006 sebring with this 2.7 in it. The engine OBD light is constantly on but engine temperature is normal and oil light is off. Every 3k miles with synthetic blend oil. I am just wondering that if this coolant leakage problem also comes with sebring after 2006 or just before 2005? Thanks again!
Thanks for making this video, Chris! I bought a used 2008 Charger back in October, and it's been one nightmare after another. It seems the water pump may be next. I won't be attempting this repair myself since I'm a beginner, but it gives me a good idea as to what the garage will be doing to it should they accept the job.
Meg Evans no problem! I'm glad you found it helpful. It's definitely not that in depth but it certainly gives an idea of what's going on and what a pain in the butt it is. Not sure if your local to the Philadelphia area but if you were I'd be willing to take on the job for reasonable rate. Where abouts you from?
I bought two intrepids with water pump issues. the 02 I bought I just rebuild the motor because the water pump leaked into the oil and spun all the bearings and bent all the rods. The second one I just did heads and timing set and gaskets. These arent that hard to work on. I use synthetic blend and change it every 3000 miles and inside the motor still looks nice and clean with no carbon. The only problem I had in both cars was the timing chain tensioner not having enough tension and suck back in. I only get noise when the engine is heated up and it sounds awful. My recommendation is not to use the chinese tensioners as the check valves in them are not always good. I bought 5 total between the two cars.
Francisco Castro Yea man no problem! I just made this quick little video so DIY'ers have an idea of what needs to be done for the job. Glad it helped you!
Great video. 2008 seabring 2.7 litre. I have no heat at idle. But driving I have heat. Changed the thermostat and heater core seems good? Guess it’s water pump? Or any ideas would be greatly appreciated
No problem! Yeah I think that's about what it took me. There are definitely more specific videos on this repair that you might find Andy. But this gives a pretty good overview of what's involved. Good luck!
Did you have to pull spark plugs to keep the compression of the cam drive gears? Asking because I’m down to the chain and tensioner. And the chain jumped a couple teeth on the passenger side cam sprocket
My weep hole was leaking for a few days. Thought it was the thermostat. All the water came out of the bottom while I was trying to take it to a shop. Debating on selling it, paying to get it fixed, or just setting it on fire.
Glad to hear you figured out it wasn't the thermostat! That tricks so many people! And yeah I kind of like your second option! Except just hire a bum to set it on fire and then come out and be like "oh my!" Lol jk
With my luck the bum would take the money, report me for insurance fraud and turn himself in for arson so he could get a free bed bro. Lol but I like the idea.
Hey, IDK If You Still Answer Questions But I Have A 07 Charger With Overheating Problems, I Just Changed The Radiator, Thermostat and Thermostat Housing....The Antifreeze Boils In The Reservoir And Causes The Car To Overheat !
Shalanda Mckenna you have to make sure the cooling system passes a pressure test at 15 lbs if so the cap is most likely bad causing the boiling. You also have to make sure the cooling system is completely bleed of all air too. Because air pockets can cause boiling and overheating too.
I have a 2008 Dodge Charger 2.7 V6 If i am going to change the water pump would i also need to change the timing chain as well? We need special tools to do this type of work?
How many miles are on it? It's certainly a good idea to change the timing kit at the same time but no you do not have to. I've done these before where I just put the pump in. Need Chrysler puller. link in description
You actually did a good video job, if you could as well putting it back together, i just got the whole timing chain kit with waterpump and on putting the waterpump back in it mentions an o-ring, it has a gasket but im not clear on if just the gasket with the rubber lining the gasket is all it needs or am i missing something.?
Abraham Brown on this job I did not because the customer was on a very tight budget and just wanted to get by. He is still driving the car today and it has not given him a problem. However if it was my own I would definitely replace the timing chain set. If it's a car you don't plan to keep for that long, then you'll probably be fine without replacing it
All that sledge... how long before it started having problems? This vid is 5 years old so I’m wondering if you still have this and is it still running?
This is a friend of mine's car, and yes it is still running and on the road. He's had several other issues with it mostly suspension related though. The transmission has been acting up lately and I'm sure it won't be on the road for too much longer. no sludge problems
👍🏽👍🏽That’s a crazy amount of sledge. I had to clean two 2.7 out that were similar looking. Took several days and removing the cylinder heads, camshafts, timing chains etc. horrible design but not as bad as the wrap it has.
@@WarPonyAuto that sounds like a lot of work! If it were my own car I would maybe do that. But I would probably take the whole engine apart. Of course I don't think it would be worth it on this type of vehicle. From my experience, the sludge ends up doing more harm if you disturb it. Unless you're doing a full rebuild
NoNonsenseKnowHow Yep, indeed. It’s worth it in the sense that two I did still ran great. Dropped the oil pans in both, replaced the oil pumps & pick up tubes. A big hassle but the customers get what they are willing to pay for. I now own a 2010 with a 2.7 and it has always been well cared for. No sledge but if it did I would not go through all that for my own vehicle lol. Anyhow, good job on the vid 👍🏽
@@WarPonyAuto that's good to hear you're willing to take your time and do jobs like that for customers. Most guys will turn that stuff away. These engines certainly last if properly taken care of. I've seen plenty with a quarter million miles on them. Thanks again for commenting and sharing
Right on! I'm just getting started on one, boss told me the pump was internal and I was baffled. Your video solidified the discussion! Time to get my hands dirty!
My motor started knocking while a cold start up and was told it's my timing chain tensioner...is that true?? And also how can I replace it??? Please help
Once the water pump starts slowly leaking from the wheep hole about a gallon every 2 weeks how long do you think it has. If you were flat broke and trying to limp it to continue to get to work and kids to school. How long you think I could make it
ok well mine not doin that thankfully and i have 214,446 miles on the car it looks like u rip the engine apart ,im no mechanic but i know my way around my car n have done everything to it myself all mew front suspension ,but the engine im weary of doin but i guess i can fig it out once i start takung shit off if the water pumps goes so thnx for the info brother
I had my engine replaced about 9 months ago and after the first 3000 miles I started having problems now I got to go back in the engine replace the water pump oil pump and pushrods because the guy that did it didn't do a very good job I spent about$3,700. On everything that's included in mind Cadillac converters on both sides and I only have 7000 miles on the car now.
Took my car to a shop to fix the water pump leak , and he replaced two freeze plugs, got it back and it was Stillwater leaking, so I took it back to the shop . He told me that a part on the pump was not there'd it was worn out and he could not get it to fit tight so he filled it with some silicone stuff but that keeps melting and it still leaks.. To me it sounds like the macanach didn't do his job so how do I fix it.
I Installed new water pump and its still leaking thry weep hole and gasket around!!!!---(i didnt put any sealant on metal gasket--installed as is) ---But now i noticed Old WaterPump had red sealant on gasket both sides--Maybe thats the reason manufacture put sealant on it? Did yours leak without any sealant??
Thanks , I knew it was a big job. I got an after market water pump from ebay. Using that a mistake considering all the labor I wondered if OEM made more sense.??
@@NoNonsenseKnowHow oh ok thanks. I'll get under there and check. I know its leaking a very small amount of oil after letting it sit for a while, any ideas?
Honestly it really depends on your region, and where you go. Dealership, street corner shop, or a friend. Also depends if he's replacing just the water pump, or the entire timing kit. Too many variables honestly. Prices are all over the place
@@NoNonsenseKnowHow ,why don't you just say what they charge in your area to give people some kind of idea what it will cost? They aren't asking for the exact price, they just want to know about how much it could cost.
If I worked at a dealership and did these more often I could do that, but unfortunately I've only done a handful in my life so I doubt I'll be seeing another one anytime soon. Sorry I couldn't be of more help
Come on dude, it no rear wheel drive. It's got front wheel drive with a 42le transmission. Not to be confused with the 42rle. That one is rear wheel drive, but never came in the vehicle.
what if the chain makes noise only after the car warms up & only at idle ?, come off of idle & the noise goes away ? what would the car need to rid the problem ?
ok so im pretty sure this is whats happening to mine.When i crank my car in the morning its starts squealing for like 30 seconds then stops, thought it was a belt or something but i guess its the timing chain? From reading the comments. Resivour is fine but water stilll dripping out the bottom of this grid like thing everytime i put water in. Oil was a milky color, overheated about 3 weeks ago. Still cranks but not sure if the engine is knocking or not. Should i just get a new motor or replace the cylinder head and the water pump or will replacing the water pump and draining the engine and putting some oil treatment in do the trick? This vid was helpful even if u dont respond, thanks!
Thanks for you comment and sorry to hear about your trouble! The timing chain will not cause any squealing noises. That could be a belt, power steering pump, etc. When you say water is dripping from a "grid like thing are you referring to the radiator? If you have milky oil then its very likely the head gaskets are leaking, or the pump is shot. Based on your description the car needs to be diagnosed further do determine the best move here. I will tell you this. If the engine was overheated excessively, i would certainly consider replacing it instead of repair. Thanks again and thumbs up is greatly appreciated.
About how much does it Cost to Replace water Pump on my 2008 300 2.7 , and should I replace timing chain too?? Is their a way to clean some of the sludge on motor or no?
Jessie Urge a shop will typically charge around 600 - $800 to complete this job. as far as replacing the timing chain goes, it would really depend on how many miles your engine has and what condition the chain / guides are in. I would recommend at least replacing the tensioner though since they are failure prone. I do not recommend cleaning all the sludge out unless you're going to just pick out some of the big chunks and areas. Once you start disturbing that stuff you're going to be in for a world of trouble in the future. In my years of working on engines I have found that it's best to just leave it where it is. thanks for the comment and if the video helped you out some give it a like. thanks
Cloyes Timing components has a really good video on setting the timing up for these. You should be able to find it if you Google how to set the timing on 2.7 liter Chrysler. Let me know if you can't find it
I constantly have to refill my car with antifreeze or water every week, do you think it's a bad waterpump? There is no leakage from the radiator but under the engine from what I saw
You better change that water pump and check your oil everyday, if you don't see a leak, it may be running into your oil pan, your oil will look milky and nasty.
Id be more worried about that carbon/sludge buildup.Image inside oil pan and sump, let along all that build up inside head.What oil do you use,what weight and how often you really changed it? I hope you get a bit more use outta that 2.7 cause by look of sludge buildup it isn't gonna be to much longer .How many miles you have on it too?You may want bore inspect that cause that is a lot of buildup, before you go putting anymore money into that engine.... That is not the original water pump either, looks like it has been replaced before.Hope you didn't get it off eBay ....
Joyce, Its not my car. Its a friend of a friends and he specifically request only a new water pump. But yea, I agree that she was all sorts of sludged up. Ive seen much worse though. It had 160k miles on it.
just curious, is it common for the coolant to escape into the oil pan when the water pump goes bad or should I be looking at something else to cause my oil pan to fill up with coolant
The water pump starts to wear out at the 70,000 miles mark and gets worse. it's best to change it every 70,000 miles even though they say to at 100,000. Just change it at 70,000 to prevent coolant from leaking into your oil pan.
It depends. If the engine is not making any noise at the moment you should be fine. How did antifreeze get in the oil? Usually when the pump fails it leaks out the port on the side on the engine. Not into the oil sump.
Hey, I appreciate your comment but unfortunately I don't really take any questions via email or phone. Armed with this video and the other ones that are on TH-cam, you should be able to tackle this job without a problem. Just give yourself plenty of time and take things slow. Sorry I couldn't be of more assistance. I hope the video helped give you some insight on the job
@@NoNonsenseKnowHow no problem... I really appreciate your time for replying my comment, and sure I will be checking your video more than one time haha... Thanks...
Hey I am having a hard time to take out the cover where u can get access to the water pump. I took all the bolt and pulley and then now the cover is hard to take it out. Any ideas how to remove it ?
@@NoNonsenseKnowHow all the bold are taken out and the middle pulley too but i think after u take out the pulley u still got to use that special took to take out or push to take out the cover ?
I hope you replaced your timing guide's if the shoe's have grove's worn in them. also replace tensioner & the thermostat. I've been there. Anti freeze "orange only" also only use full "synthetic oil only", that's why your motor is stained brown with sludge, That's the factory warning....
Hi bro,plz help me out, I have 2007 Chrysler300, 2.7L v6,It was over heated and its water pump was gone and water and oil was mixed became milky oil.I replaced the new water pump and checked everything is fine nothing damaged, only water pump was broken,the water pump is new now but it's not starting :-(more than Three times open head and reset the timing chain, but didn't start the engine,don't know what's wrong with it.!Plz help me out.!!!
not really big on youtube stuff or computers . not sure if im going right about this, maybe you can help me with my 2008 300c chrysler water pump problem.
I get a weird ticking that traces the rpms like a valve tap that comes and goes. It'll be there and then just stop while I'm driving. Its completely random. Sometimes it lasts for two days, and sometimes not even 20 minute's. Then it goes away for two or three weeks, then does it again. any ideas?
I can’t get my timing chain cover off, and it’s such a pain in the ass, thank you for the video it’s got me as far as I’ve gotten, but I’m missing something, I took out 12 bolts I read 11 is all that’s needed, so now I’m lost, I’ve read that there are potentially bolts from the oil pan into the bottom timing chain cover? But I can’t find em, I’m so confused, is it absolutely necessary to take the valve covers off also and spark plugs to get access to bottom timing chain cover? I’ve been searching for the answer for 2-3 weeks now to no avail im worried about prying it off, cuz there’s no room or leverage without causing damage to the block or pulleys, does anyone understand this?
How many miles are on it? If its the water pump leaking, it should be coming from a port on the drivers side of the engine. Towards the front. Pressurize the cooling system with a coolant pressure tester, or run the engine until warm and pressure has built up within the system(firm hoses) , then shut it off and check for leaks. Obviously, do not remove the radiator cap when the system is pressurized. Hope this helps let me know if you have any other questions. Chris
kzguy2 it's in the middle of the car where it leaks (Past the radiator), my Chrysler 300 06 has about 167k+ at least. It seems to leak a LOT when I top off the antifreeze level in the reservoir. A few days will last. The fan constantly starts blowing, heater stops working and then it starts to overheat. *Brand new reservoir and housing* I also bled the housing for air when I had installed it about a few months ago.
Ceasar Rodriguez It sounds to me like a possible cracked radiator. If the crack or hole in it is in the middle, that would make sense for it to leak more when you top off the coolant. You need to identify the exact location of the leak. If I was to guess it sounds like the radio though. Let me know what you find.
Ceasar Rodriguez Radiators for the past 25 or so years have used plastic and rubber to seal the top and bottom or the sides of the radiator (depending on where the inlet/outlets are.) The hot coolant eventually causes the plastic and rubber to distort and fail, then the radiator springs a leak. If the heater stops working and the engine starts overheating, it probably means that the coolant has either drained below the level of the heater core or out of the engine block completely. This would make sense if the radiator had a leak because once the coolant system is pressurized, coolant can literally start spraying out of the hole and drain all the coolant out real quick. 167k miles is a pretty long run for a plastic radiator, I'd consider changing it if you haven't already. Most of the time they're less than $150 at the auto parts place and usually aren't too difficult to install.
Its certainly a good time to replace the timing chain adjuster. Depends on how many miles, but in general no you do not need to replace the timing chain component's.
+cpage313131 Yup! I would suggest keeping plenty on hand! lol. Luckily they are fairly easy to work on though with no real pain in the ass items to deal with! Thanks for watching and hope it helped a little.
kzguy2 I'm thinking about changing the tensioner only, as i suspect it has worn and is the knocking culprit..and I suppose when I engage it I will see how far it has to stretch to keep tension to see if I have to tear the rest apart to do timing chain..Bad idea?
I had to replace the water pump on my chrysler 300 05 2.7. But the whole timing thing is driving me crazy. We have not been able to start it. So please help me with how to time it right please
i recently replaced water pump,oil,filter,spark plugs on a 2008 chrysler 300 2.7, car over heated only once for about 20 minutes prior to that it ran fine with no issues at all, now after putting everything back together its taking longer to warm up, it feels like its going to stall whenever im between 40-60mph and i have flashing CEL light but no codes any help?
Ends video with that’s it pretty standard stuff dude if your doing this evrey time you have ever done a water pump i am truly and deeply sorry for you this is gonna be awful
U can tell the oil was never changed regular times that why the poor water pump seals got burned out folks if u don’t want ur vehicle to have issues please maintain ur vehicle 🚗
Horrible design .... anytime you have to go behind a timing belt/chain to change a water pump the engineer who designed the motor failed.
"Water pump is out... Where did I put my pulley puller" .. fail fail fail
The design is horrible yes. The engines are fine other then that. Mine has 217.000 miles.
Absolute joke for a design Mopar should be ashamed to have their name on such a product Then again todays mopar isn't the Mopar from the pentastar years
They make money out of repairs if it was easy u wud do it ur self.thats not what they want
they should be EXECUTED
Thank you jesus for this video🙏🙏🙏,cause I just almost made the mistake of buying a 2003 Concorde with this POS 2.7L engine. Fiiuuuu, Good video bro...saved me from a headache. 🤣🤣🤣
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No problem man! Yeah I would tell you dodged a bullet. I don't think I would ever own one of these. Water pump inside the engine? No thanks
All that for a water pump, what a joke on Chryslers part
Yeppers I can tell you my next 300 will be the V8.
Ridiculous. who puts s water pump running inside the timing cover .ford does it too. .like wtf engineers ,
by the way out of six other people your the only one that has responded thank you!
thanks for the informative video. I had a 2006 sebring with this 2.7 in it. The engine OBD light is constantly on but engine temperature is normal and oil light is off. Every 3k miles with synthetic blend oil. I am just wondering that if this coolant leakage problem also comes with sebring after 2006 or just before 2005? Thanks again!
I guess music ain’t paying much for Chris Brown anymore he’s working on cars now 😂😂😂
Lol. Yeaaa. Turning wrenches for a living now
Timing chain having water pump makes my bank account grow it’s a Ingenious design
Thanks for making this video, Chris!
I bought a used 2008 Charger back in October, and it's been one nightmare after another. It seems the water pump may be next. I won't be attempting this repair myself since I'm a beginner, but it gives me a good idea as to what the garage will be doing to it should they accept the job.
Meg Evans no problem! I'm glad you found it helpful. It's definitely not that in depth but it certainly gives an idea of what's going on and what a pain in the butt it is. Not sure if your local to the Philadelphia area but if you were I'd be willing to take on the job for reasonable rate. Where abouts you from?
Too far away, Minnesota. Just south of the twin cities.
Meg Evans darn. Well good luck to you and thanks for watching. :)
Chris and meg , what does this cost? Where should i get the waterpump, tensioner, oil pump, timing chain , timing quides at? Recomendations ?
I bought two intrepids with water pump issues. the 02 I bought I just rebuild the motor because the water pump leaked into the oil and spun all the bearings and bent all the rods. The second one I just did heads and timing set and gaskets. These arent that hard to work on. I use synthetic blend and change it every 3000 miles and inside the motor still looks nice and clean with no carbon. The only problem I had in both cars was the timing chain tensioner not having enough tension and suck back in. I only get noise when the engine is heated up and it sounds awful. My recommendation is not to use the chinese tensioners as the check valves in them are not always good. I bought 5 total between the two cars.
Bro,thanks so much.i was clueless why my 300 was leaking from back there..so is the water pump..thanks so much bro.
Francisco Castro Yea man no problem! I just made this quick little video so DIY'ers have an idea of what needs to be done for the job. Glad it helped you!
Great video. 2008 seabring 2.7 litre. I have no heat at idle. But driving I have heat. Changed the thermostat and heater core seems good? Guess it’s water pump? Or any ideas would be greatly appreciated
Air in coolant system
Thanks for this. My daughter has an 2006 Chrysler 300 with a 2.7 I am changing water pump next week. Looks like about 5 or 6 hour job
No problem! Yeah I think that's about what it took me. There are definitely more specific videos on this repair that you might find Andy. But this gives a pretty good overview of what's involved. Good luck!
Now I am going to replace small timing chain when I do it correct
@@brettnunez5732 yeah that's definitely a good call to do the whole kit while you're in there!
I shouldnt need to put it on a lift should I? I am doing it on base
@@brettnunez5732 no you don't need a lift.
I put newspaper wrapped in a trash bag to block it from the oil pan. When the water hits the trash bag it headed to the ground and not in the oil pan.
Space Ghost smart
Did you have to pull spark plugs to keep the compression of the cam drive gears? Asking because I’m down to the chain and tensioner. And the chain jumped a couple teeth on the passenger side cam sprocket
Honestly I don't recall offhand. But yes I probably did well then since I was replacing them as well
My weep hole was leaking for a few days. Thought it was the thermostat. All the water came out of the bottom while I was trying to take it to a shop. Debating on selling it, paying to get it fixed, or just setting it on fire.
Glad to hear you figured out it wasn't the thermostat! That tricks so many people! And yeah I kind of like your second option! Except just hire a bum to set it on fire and then come out and be like "oh my!" Lol jk
With my luck the bum would take the money, report me for insurance fraud and turn himself in for arson so he could get a free bed bro. Lol but I like the idea.
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@@frankbrila I feel that! That's how my luck would be! I have it in the stupid 08 avenger 2.7. And I'm ready to lose it.
Hey, IDK If You Still Answer Questions But I Have A 07 Charger With Overheating Problems, I Just Changed The Radiator, Thermostat and Thermostat Housing....The Antifreeze Boils In The Reservoir And Causes The Car To Overheat !
Shalanda Mckenna did you make sure that you're using antifreeze with proper boil protection? And also did you test or replace the pressure cap?
Did you get that resolved? If so, what was the problem?
I have the same issue, did you get it fixed?
Same issue. How did you fix it.
Shalanda Mckenna you have to make sure the cooling system passes a pressure test at 15 lbs if so the cap is most likely bad causing the boiling. You also have to make sure the cooling system is completely bleed of all air too. Because air pockets can cause boiling and overheating too.
Nice simple overall explanation. Thank you very informative
I have a 2008 Dodge Charger 2.7 V6 If i am going to change the water pump would i also need to change the timing chain as well? We need special tools to do this type of work?
How many miles are on it? It's certainly a good idea to change the timing kit at the same time but no you do not have to. I've done these before where I just put the pump in. Need Chrysler puller. link in description
@@NoNonsenseKnowHow So a Chrysler pulley can be used on a 2008 dodge charger? Also i would need to find out about the miles. Thank you for the respond
No problem. And yes the puller kit that I listed in the description will work
How to reset the timing tensioner? What special tool?
If you look up cloyes timing chain video on this engine they have a really good one. On how to set the timing chain
You actually did a good video job, if you could as well putting it back together, i just got the whole timing chain kit with waterpump and on putting the waterpump back in it mentions an o-ring, it has a gasket but im not clear on if just the gasket with the rubber lining the gasket is all it needs or am i missing something.?
Yes, just the gasket with the rubber lining. and thank you
Ernesto, did you make sure to reset the timing chain adjuster after everything was setting on place and correctly timed?
LUCKY YOUR 2.7 IS A RWD!!! IMAGINE ONLY HAVING 2" OF SPACE TO DO THAT TIMING CHAIN & WATER PUMP= FWD 2.7
D.j. B yeah I did one at my work about a year ago. Definitely even more of a pain in the ass!
the hardest part is getting the motor mount out of the way to remove the top bolt of the timing chain cover!!! That took forever
That FWD job still gives me nightmares...
Very intresting comment. Ironically the fwd 2.7 intrepid has a longitudal motor set up just like this. The transmission is shaped in a T.
God damn it! I have a 2008 dodge avenger sxt 2.7L fwd and im gonna replace the water pump on friday, any advice?
2.7 is a JUNK motor. I done this same job
you should have showed how to take the tensioner off
Dodge, just do what the name says.
Question did you have to replace the timing chain as well?
Abraham Brown on this job I did not because the customer was on a very tight budget and just wanted to get by. He is still driving the car today and it has not given him a problem. However if it was my own I would definitely replace the timing chain set. If it's a car you don't plan to keep for that long, then you'll probably be fine without replacing it
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All that sledge... how long before it started having problems? This vid is 5 years old so I’m wondering if you still have this and is it still running?
This is a friend of mine's car, and yes it is still running and on the road. He's had several other issues with it mostly suspension related though. The transmission has been acting up lately and I'm sure it won't be on the road for too much longer. no sludge problems
👍🏽👍🏽That’s a crazy amount of sledge. I had to clean two 2.7 out that were similar looking. Took several days and removing the cylinder heads, camshafts, timing chains etc. horrible design but not as bad as the wrap it has.
@@WarPonyAuto that sounds like a lot of work! If it were my own car I would maybe do that. But I would probably take the whole engine apart. Of course I don't think it would be worth it on this type of vehicle. From my experience, the sludge ends up doing more harm if you disturb it. Unless you're doing a full rebuild
NoNonsenseKnowHow Yep, indeed. It’s worth it in the sense that two I did still ran great. Dropped the oil pans in both, replaced the oil pumps & pick up tubes. A big hassle but the customers get what they are willing to pay for. I now own a 2010 with a 2.7 and it has always been well cared for. No sledge but if it did I would not go through all that for my own vehicle lol. Anyhow, good job on the vid 👍🏽
@@WarPonyAuto that's good to hear you're willing to take your time and do jobs like that for customers. Most guys will turn that stuff away. These engines certainly last if properly taken care of. I've seen plenty with a quarter million miles on them. Thanks again for commenting and sharing
Short, sweet and to the point just the way I like them
Thanks man! Thats what i shoot for. I dont do detailed how to's. Just like to give people an overview of what they are in for! lol
Right on! I'm just getting started on one, boss told me the pump was internal and I was baffled. Your video solidified the discussion! Time to get my hands dirty!
My motor started knocking while a cold start up and was told it's my timing chain tensioner...is that true?? And also how can I replace it??? Please help
Please tell me how did you get the crankshaft pulley off without the radiator.
Using the special puller that I demonstrated in this video. Or are you talking about the bolt?
Once the water pump starts slowly leaking from the wheep hole about a gallon every 2 weeks how long do you think it has. If you were flat broke and trying to limp it to continue to get to work and kids to school. How long you think I could make it
Not long man )’:
Nice video, timing marks would of been a nice addition.
ok well mine not doin that thankfully and i have 214,446 miles on the car it looks like u rip the engine apart ,im no mechanic but i know my way around my car n have done everything to it myself all mew front suspension ,but the engine im weary of doin but i guess i can fig it out once i start takung shit off if the water pumps goes so thnx for the info brother
I had my engine replaced about 9 months ago and after the first 3000 miles I started having problems now I got to go back in the engine replace the water pump oil pump and pushrods because the guy that did it didn't do a very good job I spent about$3,700. On everything that's included in mind Cadillac converters on both sides and I only have 7000 miles on the car now.
Well I had it rebuilt
So now I'm back to square one I can't even drive the car cuz my lifters are tapping on the left side up the engine
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Took my car to a shop to fix the water pump leak , and he replaced two freeze plugs, got it back and it was Stillwater leaking, so I took it back to the shop .
He told me that a part on the pump was not there'd it was worn out and he could not get it to fit tight so he filled it with some silicone stuff but that keeps melting and it still leaks..
To me it sounds like the macanach didn't do his job so how do I fix it.
Yeah sounds like maybe bring it to another mechanic
I Installed new water pump and its still leaking thry weep hole and gasket around!!!!---(i didnt put any sealant on metal gasket--installed as is) ---But now i noticed Old WaterPump had red sealant on gasket both sides--Maybe thats the reason manufacture put sealant on it? Did yours leak without any sealant??
Would be the same but more difficult for a 2.7v6 dodge avenger right?
Feel free to ask bro
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Hello sir
Quick? My crank sprocket mark don't line up with cams marks
How do I fix this
How many times do I rotate engine
Thanks , I knew it was a big job. I got an after market water pump from ebay. Using that a mistake considering all the labor I wondered if OEM made more sense.??
but how much for an original?because a after market one is already expensive....plus the man-hours to change this....
what is the cost to replace the timing belt and the water pump on a 2008 charger SE
All depends on your region and what kind of shop you go to. The prices are all over the place
When u say leaking, will it be leaking water or oil?
It will be leaking coolant water if the water pump went bad
@@NoNonsenseKnowHow oh ok thanks. I'll get under there and check. I know its leaking a very small amount of oil after letting it sit for a while, any ideas?
@@nahshon2281 as far as the oil leak, nothing comes to mind offhand. Could be a multitude of things
@@NoNonsenseKnowHow ok, thank you for the help!
So how much do you charge for This job? I have same problem with my 08 the Mechanic told me he would charge me 1200 is that how much it’s worth
Honestly it really depends on your region, and where you go. Dealership, street corner shop, or a friend. Also depends if he's replacing just the water pump, or the entire timing kit. Too many variables honestly. Prices are all over the place
@@NoNonsenseKnowHow ,why don't you just say what they charge in your area to give people some kind of idea what it will cost? They aren't asking for the exact price, they just want to know about how much it could cost.
Tell us more about setting the timing
yes
How much does it cost to have this done at a shop I have same kind of car and need water pump replaced on it to.
It really depends on your region and what type of shop do you go to. Best thing to do is get three separate quotes
Nobody I know would do it under 1500
How would you know if the water pump is leaking though?
My waterpump is leaking again i think. 50.000 miles on it. I shouldn't of bought a autozone pump.
AGAIN???!!! And yes you should go OEM with the water pump, I got one from O'Reillys for my 2011 Camry, It started to fail almost a year later
Did you use silcon gasket Sealent
Can you make a detailed video of you retiming this engine.
If I worked at a dealership and did these more often I could do that, but unfortunately I've only done a handful in my life so I doubt I'll be seeing another one anytime soon. Sorry I couldn't be of more help
There is a pretty good video on how to time these I did see before on TH-cam though I think it's by cloyes timing
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Sounds like its Engine Swap Time. Car looks RWD so maybe an LS 3 or 7 would nicely and be a monster sleeper. Just sayin...
Hell no. Not a chevy motor. Keep it mopar
Come on dude, it no rear wheel drive. It's got front wheel drive with a 42le transmission. Not to be confused with the 42rle. That one is rear wheel drive, but never came in the vehicle.
That's what I was thinking! Maybe 5.3 twin turbo AWD Intrepid, something the Intrepid should have been.
what if the chain makes noise only after the car warms up & only at idle ?, come off of idle & the noise goes away ? what would the car need to rid the problem ?
ok so im pretty sure this is whats happening to mine.When i crank my car in the morning its starts squealing for like 30 seconds then stops, thought it was a belt or something but i guess its the timing chain? From reading the comments. Resivour is fine but water stilll dripping out the bottom of this grid like thing everytime i put water in. Oil was a milky color, overheated about 3 weeks ago. Still cranks but not sure if the engine is knocking or not. Should i just get a new motor or replace the cylinder head and the water pump or will replacing the water pump and draining the engine and putting some oil treatment in do the trick?
This vid was helpful even if u dont respond, thanks!
Thanks for you comment and sorry to hear about your trouble! The timing chain will not cause any squealing noises. That could be a belt, power steering pump, etc. When you say water is dripping from a "grid like thing are you referring to the radiator? If you have milky oil then its very likely the head gaskets are leaking, or the pump is shot. Based on your description the car needs to be diagnosed further do determine the best move here. I will tell you this. If the engine was overheated excessively, i would certainly consider replacing it instead of repair. Thanks again and thumbs up is greatly appreciated.
About how much does it Cost to Replace water Pump on my 2008 300 2.7 , and should I replace timing chain too?? Is their a way to clean some of the sludge on motor or no?
Jessie Urge a shop will typically charge around 600 - $800 to complete this job. as far as replacing the timing chain goes, it would really depend on how many miles your engine has and what condition the chain / guides are in. I would recommend at least replacing the tensioner though since they are failure prone. I do not recommend cleaning all the sludge out unless you're going to just pick out some of the big chunks and areas. Once you start disturbing that stuff you're going to be in for a world of trouble in the future. In my years of working on engines I have found that it's best to just leave it where it is. thanks for the comment and if the video helped you out some give it a like. thanks
it did Thanks gave you a thumbs up!!
it only overheated twice and i havent drove it since
kzguy2 Im also changing my water pump. How did you get the timing plate off? I have 3 different sized pry bars that im trying to use. Thanks
What are your tork specs for everything
Been a while since I did this. They should be online somewhere. I used Alldata at my work. If all else fails use German method of Guutentite
@@NoNonsenseKnowHow I've used the Russian method Guudinov.
On a Chrysler 300 2.7 engine my timing change or belt then slip can I be fixed
I'm not sure I understand your question. You would have to look up if your engine is interference or not.
Hey brotha. I’m tryin to repair my water pump. I installed it already but I’m just having trouble timing the chain
Cloyes Timing components has a really good video on setting the timing up for these. You should be able to find it if you Google how to set the timing on 2.7 liter Chrysler. Let me know if you can't find it
NoNonsenseKnowHow I put it back on but now. The car keeps overheating. I try to bleed it but air keeps coming out. It’s been a total of hours
I constantly have to refill my car with antifreeze or water every week, do you think it's a bad waterpump? There is no leakage from the radiator but under the engine from what I saw
Certainly could be. They are pretty common to fail and leak. How many miles are on it?
+kzguy2 170 K
You better change that water pump and check your oil everyday, if you don't see a leak, it may be running into your oil pan, your oil will look milky and nasty.
Wish mine was RWD, mercy. Looks like they changed a few things from my 2004 2.7L.
Yeah definitely much more roomy!
Id be more worried about that carbon/sludge buildup.Image inside oil pan and sump, let along all that build up inside head.What oil do you use,what weight and how often you really changed it? I hope you get a bit more use outta that 2.7 cause by look of sludge buildup it isn't gonna be to much longer .How many miles you have on it too?You may want bore inspect that cause that is a lot of buildup, before you go putting anymore money into that engine....
That is not the original water pump either, looks like it has been replaced before.Hope you didn't get it off eBay ....
Joyce, Its not my car. Its a friend of a friends and he specifically request only a new water pump. But yea, I agree that she was all sorts of sludged up. Ive seen much worse though. It had 160k miles on it.
just curious, is it common for the coolant to escape into the oil pan when the water pump goes bad or should I be looking at something else to cause my oil pan to fill up with coolant
The water pump starts to wear out at the 70,000 miles mark and gets worse. it's best to change it every 70,000 miles even though they say to at 100,000. Just change it at 70,000 to prevent coolant from leaking into your oil pan.
Would it be a waste of time if I did this on my 2.7 if antifreeze got to the oil?
It depends. If the engine is not making any noise at the moment you should be fine. How did antifreeze get in the oil? Usually when the pump fails it leaks out the port on the side on the engine. Not into the oil sump.
I have same exact problem right now. What was your outcome?
If jumped time, and it being a interference head, is it b.c. a pretty good bet I did some valve or piston damage?
😮 another crazy design
I love 2.5, 3,5 v6 and all v8 mopars , but 2,7 don't like me lol .
There is no water flowing to my radiator what is the problem?
what tool did you use to pull off the crankshaft pulley. my 2005 dodge stratus sxt sedan has a double belt pulley..
How do you know how much to tighten the bolts back down too
Which bolts are you referring to?
Like all the screws and bolts n shit
Hello, great video man... You know I am planning on doing this job on my 2.7l 2008 Charger... Can I contact you for some guiding?... Thanks in advance
Hey, I appreciate your comment but unfortunately I don't really take any questions via email or phone. Armed with this video and the other ones that are on TH-cam, you should be able to tackle this job without a problem. Just give yourself plenty of time and take things slow. Sorry I couldn't be of more assistance. I hope the video helped give you some insight on the job
@@NoNonsenseKnowHow no problem... I really appreciate your time for replying my comment, and sure I will be checking your video more than one time haha... Thanks...
Thumbs up 👍 good jumping around 😂 know your ball’s
I have an avenger 2.7 its liquin water but looks for the back no the front you thing its the water pump?
Doesn't the Avenger have a transversely mounted engine?
Hey I am having a hard time to take out the cover where u can get access to the water pump. I took all the bolt and pulley and then now the cover is hard to take it out. Any ideas how to remove it ?
As long as you have all the bolts out of it it should just pop right off from what I remember. I'm guessing you may have forgotten one of the bolts
@@NoNonsenseKnowHow i think it s the pulley when you take it out with the special tool there is still that middle center to take it out ?
@@NoNonsenseKnowHow all the bold are taken out and the middle pulley too but i think after u take out the pulley u still got to use that special took to take out or push to take out the cover ?
@@kiolittlestar yes. As I stated in the video you need a special puller to get that pulley off. There is a link in the description to one
@@kiolittlestar the pulley absolutely has to come off before the cover does.
When putting the chain on the water pump does the change go in between those 2 spike on the pump?
If you look up " Cloyes gear 2.7 L timing chain" , they have a really good video on how to set the timing on this engine
Thank you so much
no prob!
Im almost done with my timing chain job and i want it to be right but i dk if the chain goes between both ridges or in the back on or front one🤦🏻♀️
I hope you replaced your timing guide's if the shoe's have grove's worn in them. also replace tensioner & the thermostat. I've been there. Anti freeze "orange only" also only use full "synthetic oil only", that's why your motor is stained brown with sludge, That's the factory warning....
don't forget a new oil pump while everything is open which is also factory recommended when doing the water pump!
yes full synthetic not a mixed version either, but still a piss pour design. needs changed around every 70, 000 miles just to be on the safe side
Hey I have a question.. I did all that. But when I turn on the car it makes a noise. Like if the timing belt....
Y es you not to release de tensener these it the rrouble
just did this job on the same car but water leaks when you pour it in the tank from the lower radiator neck. pump is new all seals replaced. any idea?
What do you torque the water pump and the oil pump at I have a inch pound torque wrench
Just financed one of these. Hoping it isnt a big issue
How did it work out for you?
i have an 07 charger how did u knw wen it was time to change the water pump n how long did it take u total?
when it starts leaking from the weep hole on driver side of the engine(near thermostat housing) It took about 3.5hr or so
My pump is bad just. where. you said that's exactly where its leaking too
What if the oil is brown? In these cars?
Hi bro,plz help me out, I have 2007 Chrysler300, 2.7L v6,It was over heated and its water pump was gone and water and oil was mixed became milky oil.I replaced the new water pump and checked everything is fine nothing damaged, only water pump was broken,the water pump is new now but it's not starting :-(more than Three times open head and reset the timing chain, but didn't start the engine,don't know what's wrong with it.!Plz help me out.!!!
Once you set it to time how do you hold the cams from jumping I see the kit gives you a tool
i have a universal cam holder
not really big on youtube stuff or computers . not sure if im going right about this, maybe you can help me with my 2008 300c chrysler water pump problem.
David Stivers your fine. What u got?
Yes í like the way you explain. Thanks.
I get a weird ticking that traces the rpms like a valve tap that comes and goes. It'll be there and then just stop while I'm driving. Its completely random. Sometimes it lasts for two days, and sometimes not even 20 minute's. Then it goes away for two or three weeks, then does it again. any ideas?
Nice job you seem to know your stuff!
I can’t get my timing chain cover off, and it’s such a pain in the ass, thank you for the video it’s got me as far as I’ve gotten, but I’m missing something, I took out 12 bolts I read 11 is all that’s needed, so now I’m lost, I’ve read that there are potentially bolts from the oil pan into the bottom timing chain cover? But I can’t find em, I’m so confused, is it absolutely necessary to take the valve covers off also and spark plugs to get access to bottom timing chain cover?
I’ve been searching for the answer for 2-3 weeks now to no avail im worried about prying it off, cuz there’s no room or leverage without causing damage to the block or pulleys, does anyone understand this?
Seriously fuck dodge for this.
I have antifreeze leaking from the bottom of my car. Don't kno if it's the water pump that's causing to stream down?
How many miles are on it? If its the water pump leaking, it should be coming from a port on the drivers side of the engine. Towards the front. Pressurize the cooling system with a coolant pressure tester, or run the engine until warm and pressure has built up within the system(firm hoses) , then shut it off and check for leaks. Obviously, do not remove the radiator cap when the system is pressurized. Hope this helps let me know if you have any other questions.
Chris
kzguy2 it's in the middle of the car where it leaks (Past the radiator), my Chrysler 300 06 has about 167k+ at least. It seems to leak a LOT when I top off the antifreeze level in the reservoir. A few days will last. The fan constantly starts blowing, heater stops working and then it starts to overheat. *Brand new reservoir and housing* I also bled the housing for air when I had installed it about a few months ago.
kzguy2 all that starts to happen , but when I have decent antifreeze in everything works fine
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It sounds to me like a possible cracked radiator. If the crack or hole in it is in the middle, that would make sense for it to leak more when you top off the coolant. You need to identify the exact location of the leak. If I was to guess it sounds like the radio though. Let me know what you find.
Ceasar Rodriguez Radiators for the past 25 or so years have used plastic and rubber to
seal the top and bottom or the sides of the radiator (depending on where
the inlet/outlets are.) The hot coolant eventually causes the plastic
and rubber to distort and fail, then the radiator springs a leak.
If the heater stops working and the engine starts overheating, it probably means that the coolant has either drained below the level of the heater core or out of the engine block completely. This would make sense if the radiator had a leak because once the coolant system is pressurized, coolant can literally start spraying out of the hole and drain all the coolant out real quick.
167k miles is a pretty long run for a plastic radiator, I'd consider changing it if you haven't already. Most of the time they're less than $150 at the auto parts place and usually aren't too difficult to install.
anytime I have to set my timing and need a oil change all because of simply needing a changing my water pump, thats a problem
I'm changing my water pump as well. Do I need to change the timing chain as well or any other part?
Its certainly a good time to replace the timing chain adjuster. Depends on how many miles, but in general no you do not need to replace the timing chain component's.
Damn I'm having the infamous dodge knocking noise..I suspect timing tensioner and chain.. Gonna need lotta beer for this aren't I?
+cpage313131 Yup! I would suggest keeping plenty on hand! lol. Luckily they are fairly easy to work on though with no real pain in the ass items to deal with! Thanks for watching and hope it helped a little.
kzguy2 I'm thinking about changing the tensioner only, as i suspect it has worn and is the knocking culprit..and I suppose when I engage it I will see how far it has to stretch to keep tension to see if I have to tear the rest apart to do timing chain..Bad idea?
+cpage313131 best to play it safe and knock it all out at once really
you think u can put a picture of the water pump? please i need to see it well from boths sides
I had to replace the water pump on my chrysler 300 05 2.7. But the whole timing thing is driving me crazy. We have not been able to start it. So please help me with how to time it right please
So did you solve the problem??
@geneiveve7157 did you solve the problem? Is it working now??
i recently replaced water pump,oil,filter,spark plugs on a 2008 chrysler 300 2.7, car over heated only once for about 20 minutes prior to that it ran fine with no issues at all, now after putting everything back together its taking longer to warm up, it feels like its going to stall whenever im between 40-60mph and i have flashing CEL light but no codes any help?
The flashing CEL is a bad misfire,
What a nightmare! One timing mistake and that engine is toast !
holy sludge... how long did it take you to do the replacement?
about 3.5hr or so
What is the name of that part where the coolant hose attaches to
Are you referring to the coolant bypass tube?
@@NoNonsenseKnowHow do u know if thats a dealership only part. Mines was leaking
@@srj1874 if you can't find one on eBay or anywhere like that, then yes probably dealer. Honestly I'm not sure off hand
@@NoNonsenseKnowHow ok thanks man tremendous help
How did you take the timing cover off
I also need to know
Ends video with that’s it pretty standard stuff dude if your doing this evrey time you have ever done a water pump i am truly and deeply sorry for you this is gonna be awful
I meant like pretty standard as far as taking nuts and bolts off
It's not too bad once you tear into it. But then again I work on junk everyday so I guess yeah I'm pretty used to it
U can tell the oil was never changed regular times that why the poor water pump seals got burned out folks if u don’t want ur vehicle to have issues please maintain ur vehicle 🚗
These engineers used to work at Ford
very cool work
are the lifters tough to get out and back in?