I'll never forget when the Warriors were at OKC it was the nearing the end of OT and Steph was just casually walking past Half Court and he drained the Game-Winning Shot. Dude knew that a Half Court shot was going in, Nobody has that kind of confidence in their shot.
The subtle thing about Steph's numbers is that most of the time he finishes his job in 3 qtrs and sits out the entire 4th. He could have had multiple 70+ games by now
Hehe I may have gotten carried away there but for arguments sake let's say by multiple I mean at least 2. The thing I'm looking at is momentum. In the majority of games where Curry scores 40+ points he explodes in the 3rd qtr and drops about 70% of his points there, getting progressively hotter until either the qtr ends or Kerr takes him out. He's usually glowing red hot by the time he gets benched for the remainder of the game because GSW is already leading by that much. If he were to carry that momentum into the 4th qtr and play starter minutes (this is a guy that scored 13 points in about 100 secs against Boston), i really do believe he'd have had at least 2 70+ point games.
Curry isnt considered clutch because he rarely has the opportunity to be clutch. How are you gonna be called a closer when you sit out most 4th quarters because you're bootyblasting teams that badly?
AfterLifeGuru he had the chance in the finals and as we all witnessed he had no screens n Love locked him up after Kyrie busted a 3 in his face on his court and took the 🏆 out of Oracle 😳 Curry is weak with without screens and was missing in action in crunch time of the finals, now that KD is there his ego along with his huge ass teeth have gotten bigger 😳
clay cox Steph was hurt and his lateral speed was obviously affected... also the warriors run the least amount of pick and rolls in the league yet people still claim Steph needs screens... just shows that you're just another hater with little to no knowledge
The disrespect of nba players and media to curry is ridiculous. They just cant admit his greatness, but when its game time they trap him, double team him, push him around, and all dirty tricks. I think that in itself already define his greatness.
curry's off ball game is astronomically on another level to a point that kyrie's style won't give him the ability to catch up to him. It's his off ball movement that makes him so hard to guard and lets his teammates shine while playing with steph. Kyrie's style is to iso ball
off ball movement is a result of a system allowing for it, under brad i'm sure kyrie will improve drastically especially if they can get some more assets that allow kyrie to not always have to be the offense. Curry has Durant Klay and Draymond to initiate. Kyrie has Kyrie, Kyrie, and Horford
^steph literally leads the league in distance travelled per game by a huge margin dude is moving and cutting every second he's on the floor and that takes a TREMENDOUS amount of stamina and basketball iq/awareness. so you can't just assume kyrie or anyone is capable of doing the same thing steph does if they're under the right system. maybe kyrie can but he sure as well won't be nearly as effective on iso possessions if he spends that much energy off the ball like steph does.
players have strengths and weaknesses and the so called "systems" are TAILORED towards that. if you have lebron and kyrie on the team you're gonna have them play iso ball and spread the court with shooters if you have steph and klay you're gonna have them run around the court like crazy for catch and shoot looks. teams are not stupid if they can play like golden state they will but they dont have the right pieces. kyrie is better off playing iso than playing off the ball that's why you can't just say oh but kyrie can do the same he's just not playing under the right system.
You can apply off ball movement in any system moron. But a lot of these offensive players like Melo, LeBron, Kyrie, and Westbrook like to save their energy by sitting out on the perimeter ball watching. Kyrie needs a ton of energy for isolation plays. This is why Curry will perform well even when he is age 35+. He doesn't rely heavily on explosive athleticism because all he needs is a 4 inch jump with a flick of the wrist or an easy drive in an open lane without iso-playing.
What separates Curry from past greats is the volume of his 3 pointers. Not only is his percentage higher. He takes a lot more of them. Plus, he is more accurate from further away. Defenses have to stretch so far to cover him that entire interior of the court is opened up. And the Warriors wreak havoc as a result. Curry is proof that "making teammates better" doesn't always mean passing the ball. He opens so much space that other guys have room to operate.
It's insane that he shoots at such a high percentage with such difficult shots... I mean, look at his footwork, it's all over the place because he's getting his shot up so quick, but it goes in anyway
and then some idiot says "he only averages 5 assists a game" and completely disregards the fact that his teammates get open look after open look because the defense is petrified about where Steph is on the court and often times you will see multiple defenders jumping out at him on the perimeter while someone else gets a free layup. But certainly Curry didn't help create those shots because he didnt get an assist right? Logic at its best.
BlueWave finally a comment section where everyone isn't biased and actually watches the whole game instead of basing everything off of highlights and statistics
People seem to misunderstand over the years that Curry is NOT a product of the Warriors, but the Warriors are a product of Steph. People love to take greatness for granted.
I hate maxs argument. He’s using one specific example to make a claim about a much bigger thing. Sure he got outplayed by Kyrie in the 2016 finals but one series shouldn’t be your only argument. Like kobe got outplayed by Paul pierce in the 2008 finals, does that mean Paul pierce is better?
Lol for real. Dude is too busy living in the last five minutes of Game 7 of the '16 Finals (when Steph wasn't even 100%). How about the most recent Finals?
Nonchalant1996 Did Max just use a series that Steph was injured in to make a point? Does he not realize that when Steph is healthy, he averages 26, 7, and 6 in the finals? He hit a dagger in Kyrie's face in the 2017 finals to punctuate the game... When Curry is healthy, there's no need to close a game in the final seconds because his opponent will already be blown out of the water.
He's also forgetting Lebron played Def on Curry. Let's see how Kyrie does with Lebron (aged) playing D on him. Then we can say if Kyrie is close to being Curry clutch.
Every single time I watch Steph Curry I shake my head I don't think people understand how ridiculously unbelievable a shooter this dude is, it's ineffable.
If I’m choosing a PG and it is between Steph and Kyrie I’m going with Steph. He is a threat from anywhere on the floor and creates problems for teams on defense just by his presence alone. AND this man is disruptive on D and causes turnover let me point that out. Kyrie is a great player but he’s not Steph.
iamprinceofpennis He missed a few games in the playoffs that year did he not? That's what I mean. And this isn't the NFL, BBall players are still in better health, relatively, by the end of the season. Pretty sure Kyrie was in better health than Steph in 16' and visa versa in 15'.
WhipAddict Curry was absolutely fine and he let everybody know when he was yelling “I’m Back!” against the Trail Blazers in the second round Also he didn’t have surgery or anything in the off-season after so it was totally made up even Steve Kerr said he was fine
The WallStar The man missed 6 games in the Playoffs that year. Idc what you say, he wasn't himself. And of course THEY aren't going to use any excuses man, come on dude.
Y'all say Steph Curry doesn't show up in the 4th quarter.... Well, that's usually because Steph and the Warriors are usually blowing out their competition by the end of the 3rd
So we're just gonna forget about 17 points in over time and his clutch shots when he was down 3-1 to the thunder? Do we forget about how clutch he was last finals?
they neglected to consider that they are comparing what steph does in 3 quarters against what kyrie does in 4 and steph still smokes him. nit to mention max is outright lying, kyries best d is straight up terrible
Max Kellerman on that "Kyrie vs Steph in the Finals" stuff cause of the shot Kyrie hit over Steph in game 7 to ice the game. But he conveniently forgets that Steph came back the very next year and hit the dagger in game 5 over Kyrie in an almost mirror of the previous year as revenge.
Christian Bebee Game 5- Curry has a 30 point near triple double and scores 8 points and has 2 assists in the fourth quarter while Kyrie shoots 0-6 and has 2 turnovers in the fourth quarter of game 5. Curry averaged 27/9/8 while being double teamed and trapped in every single pick and roll and almost every time he crosses past half court with the ball in his hands. Curry definitely redeemed himself whether you like it or not
I think Max is smoking that WEEEEEEDA. Did he forget that Steph nearly averaged a triple double in the Finals last year. Yes, small, frail Steph Max!!! Also, he is the ONLY UNANIMOUS MVP EVER. Even the man's jockstrap that you worship LeBron has never been that Max. Let's be clear Kyrie is a BAAAAAAAD MAAAAN but has a couple of levels to get to Steph. There's levels to this thing.
2 years before KD showed up he was considered a no show in the finals even against OKC when klay brought them back from 3-1 curry face was on milk cartons. Curry is the better overall player but Kyrie is better when it really counts
@Apexways47 Valid point regarding the OKC series and the Finals 2 years ago. Although, LeBron gets all the credit any basketball purist knows Kyrie was the MVP of that series 2 years ago and throughly outplayed Steph in that series. But, its amazing that they hold that OKC series and Finals against him and seem to downplay what may go down as one of the most dominant years by any player ever in the NBA wire to wire. Curry's 16' to 17' season is simply amazing when you check the stats and the accomplishments for a PG. The guy has singlehandedly changed the way the game will be played from here on. As great a talent as Kyrie is he still has some proving to do to be on Steph's level.
BlkDiesel Kyrie did get credit but to say Lebron didn’t deserve that mvp after leading in every statistical category in the finals against the best team ever? Yes Kyrie deserves credit but lets not act like he wasnt a no show until game 3. Curry proved what he can do with Durant injured against the best teams.
Just for the record the worst game that Kyrie had in that 2016 series was game 2. He had 10 pts 1 ast and 8 rebounds, it was the only game he didn't show up. He had 26 pts 4 ast and 3 reb in game 1. Then from there he pretty much was unstoppable for the next 5 games and thorougly outplayed Steph. LeBron did what he's supposed to do but even with his stats there is no way they go to game 7 without Kyrie. He changed that whole series. To your last point, I believe that both Curry and Durant have shown what they can both do when each other is out. They complement each other extremely well.
Being dominant without the ball is underrated. Steph doesn't hog the ball, when he has it he either does something or gives the ball up to let his gravity do the work - proficient. Larry Bird was excellent at dominating games without the ball as well.
Steph is underrated in my opinion. I think this guy could be in the argument of best player in the league. A lot of shine was lost when durant joined. People forgot what Steph did that 73-9 season. I don't think any other player would have led that team to 73-9. There was a point that season that everyone was like damn this guy might be the best in the game right now! I am a warrior hater too but this guy's take over ability is very similar to the best of the best.
Steph is the greatest shooter period. And Im a Cavs fan. My whole family love the Cavs. But this man Steph is a whole other level. And not only is his shooting amazing. It’s his off ball offense. Its literally what creates space for himself and even for the whole team. Thats why the Warriors can score 10-15 points in almost 2 minutes.
Mark Lart lol I'm a Celts fan and I completely agree.. I honestly find it HILARIOUS watching those times where it just looks like he throws the ball up.. no form at ALL... just muscle memory... he's ridiculous
Not so fast my guy, did you see the final seconds of that game 7? Don’t hang stephs hat on one game, I could do the same with Kyrie, but Kyrie’s actually meant more
Sun Spot Kyrie isn’t Better overall, Curry has a higher layup percentage despite what the media tells you, a higher fg%, mid range %, 3pt % and more points. He’s better than Kyrie in EVERY way, except Kyrie slightly more clutch.
KJTheGoat23 with the team that golden state have with KD its easier. Kyrie is better going in and curry the best shooter. Kyrie is a big reason y cleveland have a ring
Wetness is the ability of a liquid to adhere to the surface of a solid, so when we say that something is wet, we mean that the liquid is sticking to the surface of a material. Therefor water is not wet
Max, too bad you missed the best NBA game of the year when the Warriors beat the Celtics on Saturday. Or maybe you just turned it off for the 4th quarter. Curry scored 13 points in the last 1:42. He hit a 3-pointer, a layup and then 8 free throws! He did not miss a shot or a free throw down the stretch. Kyrie scored only 5 points during that same stretch and missed a free throw. Curry had 49 points and only 1 turnover. Kyrie had 37 points and 3 turnovers. I admit, Kyrie outperformed Curry in the 2016 finals when Curry was INJURED. Dubs almost won anyway.
That was when Curry was INJURED! LBJ was not able to guard Curry in the recent game on Jan. 15. th-cam.com/video/sVhDvIhx9i4/w-d-xo.html It's kind of sad that the best you can do is keep citing the match up when Curry was injured and try to pretend he was healthy.
melokid99 everyone? How about the warrior bandwagons who create fake accounts making fun of his hairline, finals record, 2011?calling him " Lebum" or something stupid
Jofundy lmao u mean their bench took them to the finals???? That team would have not gotten where they got without their number 1 in the NBA bench. They can sit okay curry and kd and still win.
Naaaaa Gsw could hold its own before KD chillll, Curry was their main star but Drayton, Klay and Iggy were enough to nearly cancel out LeBron and Kyrie, Don't compare Kyrie and a trash team to Curry and a team that nearly swept the regular season. Curry not that great. How dare you compare Kyrie and LeBron and Love to Steph who is excellent, Klay who is an underated excellence, Kevin Durant the second greatest player in the league, Draymond, Iggy, and a strong bench. GSW is stacked. Take KD from them they'd still be tough to beat. And KD is clutch too which is something Curry isn't.
Steph is better than Kyrie. Revolutionized the game. Amazing inside game. Stretches the floor. Disrputs defenses (almost like Shaq, but with shooting. Every team has to plan around how to defend Curry). TEAM PLAYER. Good Passer, even though he makes dumb decisions sometimes. Knows how to play with Stars, unlike a lot of players in the league. Kyrie, on the other hand, has the best handles I have ever fucking seen. Good 3pt shooter. Better clutch player. Has the man ever missed a layup?? I mean his layup package is ridiculous. Can lead a team. Tends to break down late in playoffs. Kyrie is amazing, but doesn't create as much havoc to the defense as Steph does. Steph has been doubled EVERY game ever since his breakout year, especially in the playoffs.
Why is max acting like Curry didn’t damn near average a triple double in the last finals... also he averages more points in the finals than kyrie... so I don’t understand Max’s point. The only thing he’s probably thinking about is game 7 of 2016
Ethan Lathon In that Game 7 Draymond scored more than everybody and had more rebounds than everybody. I guess Draymond is better than Curry , LeBron, Kyrie, Love, Klay and anybody else that played in that game.
curry gets so disrespected in the 2015 finals, its bullshit he didn't get mvp, his stats were actually above his regular season average that year in the finals and he was a monster in those close out games especially in that game 4 when cavs were up 2-1 and then the close out in game 6 in cleveland steph was great the 1 finals he didn't perform as well was the 2016 finals weather you wanna give him the excuse of he was never fully healthy from getting hurt but what ever thats 1 finals he some what under performed but thats cause of the insane standard curry has displayed and he almost averaged a triple double him self in the 2017 finals but that doesn't get talked about as much as lebron averaging a triple double while his team got dismantled in 5 games
You know what a pg supposed to do right? pass first shot second that's what a true pg is i cant say he's going down as the greatest pg ever but i could say he is the greatest shooter ever.
Stephen Curry made eight 3-pointers on his way to a season-high 49 points in Saturday's win over the Celtics. This was Curry's 36th career game making at least eight 3-pointers. The next three players with the most such games in NBA history -- JR Smith, Klay Thompson and Ray Allen -- have combined for 33 such games. -- Michael Schwartz
Really ask yourself this question. Would you want a good point guard that has the best Handles in the game on your team? Or a good point guard that is the best shooter in NBA history and revolutionized the game of basketball on your team?
Kyrie will never be better. Curry's shooting ability changes the whole defense and he pushes the tempo better than anyone in NBA history. Kyrie plays in isolation too much.
Bay is Bae , just imagine if Curry didn't play 3 years at Davidson and came in the draft after his first year, and also imagine if Curry didn't have so many ankle injuries in his early career. I wonder what his numbers would look like ?.... Especially his 3 point numbers.
Max is on serious drugs. He talks about Steph like he has ever been trash in finals. Let's look at it: 2017 Finals: 26.8 pts; 8.0 rebs; 9.4 assits; 2.2 stls on 44% shooting 2016 Finals: 22.6 pts; 4.9 rebs; 3.7 assits on 40.3% shooting 2015 Finals: 26.0 pts; 5.2 rebs; 6.3 assits; 1.8 stls on 44.3% shooting Points to be considered: - Steph was the clear MVP in 2015, he got robbed. - In 2016 we all know he wasn't healthy. Put some respect on Curry's name.
Eagles fan since 2006. We did expect a lot coming into the 2016 finals because of what they accomplished during the regular season. But it's no excuse he had a knee injury during post-season that would drastically impact his game.
Relative to his MVP caliber regular seasons, Curry does underperform in the finals imo, but even if he averaged 18-4-4 on 35% shooting in a series, his impact is just so great. In 2016 when the Cavs won in 7, Curry averaged 20 ppg on 40% shooting and they still should’ve won in 5 if Green wasn’t suspended. If you look at pure box score stats only, it’s indisputable that kyrie tends to play better than Curry, but Curry’s presence on the floor alone is the greatest since MJ
tiger22 Exactly! That 3rd quarter damage with klay, kd and steph is just deadly. Steph has a stacked team compared to kyrie with rookies. Not a fair comparison by team.
does anybody remember steph was hurt in the playoffs when they loss the championship he got hurt in the western conference games and people keep calling him choker jezz
Junu Johnny because curry was the second option and the cavs were so worried about defending kd at times it looked like they forgot about curry and then u got to worry about leaving klay open
Steph has 2 MVPs, 2 rings, is an elite passer, a much better defender than Kyrie, a better scorer, a better shooter, and a much more effective scorer. How can anyone compare Kyrie to Steph?
U lost all respect when u said steph is a better defender lmao. Curry is a better shooter but that’s it. Kyrie is a pure scorer. Both great players I love both. Kyrie in a couple years will pass him though
Alberto Reyes true but theres people who played in way more than 3 and there's also trash bench players who ain't play a finals min but got a ring so...
How many times has Stephan A said the same thing over and over? "he's the greatest shooter I've ever seen". and with KD, "he's 6 foot 11 can handle the ball AND SHOOT FROM 30" LOL
lek lek is it a team sport or not? He was on the best team in the league that couldn't even win a ring. And he def should not have been the unanimous MVP.
Kid-_Flash - How is LeBron 3-5 when he played his whole career wit superteams lmaooo this nigga is top 10 all time, handpicked teams, and still lose in the finals 🤣🤣🤣🤣
David Owen He carried a team filled with rookies and had JARRET JACK as his second best player into the second round of the 2013 playoffs and almost beat the Spurs. You’re an ignorant idiot
If u guys ever watch the whole game of steph u will realize how effective this guy is. He goes iso max 5 possessions per game and is willing to pass first and move without the ball. That is a true point guard. Making other guys better and making plays for them. Kyrie and Westbrook go iso min 20 possessions. Westbrook passes to get assist and shoot ridiculous shots.
Maxx you based your entire argument on the one shot in the finals, CURRY WAS NOT 100% how clutch was Kyrie last year in the finals? Dont get me wrong Kyrie is one of the greats and is going to solidify himself as that, but dont kid yourself, lets wait till Kryie gets a couple MVPs and a few more rings before we start with that nonsense.
Steph is a better defender, better passer, and he’s the greatest shooter of all time, and his presence on the court alone makes his teammates better. I’m takin #30 all day.
NoHandDan kyrie is one of the worst defensive PGs in the league.. Steph however is Top 10 if we talk about just stats. I don't want nobody to talk about the warriors being a better team and all this other shit either because if we're talking defense, pound for pound, the Celtics are right there next to the Warriors.
Man Curry playing on a MVP Level the eye test for real hoopers and lets not talk the "numbers" Currys 2017 finals numbers: 26.8 ppg 9.4 ast 8.0 rebounds that's dam near a triple double.
Max acts like Curry is a scrub in the finals. Curry last year averaged 26.8pts , 9.4 assists, and 8.0 rebs. Last time checked that's almost a triple-double , and he did that averaging 37 mins a game that's 5 mintues less than LeBron. If KD didn't go completely nuts Curry would have won finals MVP.
I'll take Curry over Kyrie any day if we're going for a game winner with no time out. Nobody spaces the floor like Curry, he's the engine to that team, is the better player and yes Kyrie is insanely clutch and him dropping that killer 3 on Curry in the finals was insane but I don't feel like curry isn't clutch due to not playing up to his par in a finals when he was coming off of an ankle injury. Curry is clutch, he's the better player, but both brothers are amazing to watch do their thing, respect them both and hope this is a finals preview cause this game was amazing. Side note I can't wait to see the Celtics with Hayward.
Curry has always been active on defense. Everything you ask on defense, he does. He has led the league in steals before. People that don't understand basketball try to discredit that, but he has always contributed on defense.
SAS made a point though....curry aint that clutch cause the damage already been done in 3 quarters and max said kyrie can play defense but doesn't...how does that make sense??? loool
Crazy thing nobody acknowledges about Curry is how fast he can score and run up the score board. This man can literally drop 30 in a quarter on 10 3pointers...if he didn’t have Kd and Klay he’d easily be scoring 40-50 a game. Curry scores more efficiently with less effort than any player in the game. His handles are only second to kyrie, his passing is great also.
My Team Over Yours have to disagree. KD is the player that can score the easiest because of his height. BUT, Curry is the best shooter and can get up to 40 points with almost no problem. His weakness? Himself. But when he is hot there is no chance to stop the Warriors
My Team Over Yours lol steph needs the help dont get it twisted he has that ability but often he scores most his points in a half rarely plays good 4 quarters the team keeps it close for him a lot of the times
Max's argument in a nutshell: sandbag 3 quarters and play lights out for 1 is better than scoring 40 points in 3 quarters and riding the bench in the 4th
People are forgetting that in the 2017 finals kyrie in game 5 was 1-6 in the third quarter and 0-5 in the fourth quarter Where kyrie at then? Kyrie has a not shown up before and he was healthy. It's crazy how people bring the 2016 finals for Steph but, he was injured throughout the whole playoffs. Curry averaged in the 2017 finals 28/9/8 along with over 2 steals.
as much as i hate cleveland, kyrie was the scariest dude on that squad. gnarly finishes and every time he shot you knew there was a chance it was going in no matter how tough it was
slamandjam2 thats a lie 2016 finals where he shit on curry proved that. 2017 finals proved that to if kd wasnt there lebron and kyrie would have raped the warriors
Curry could've retired this year and still be the GOAT Shooter. Whether these analyst admit it or continue to say "he's one of the best" is irrelevant. Water is Wet
I love them both.. but Max.. this man Steph averaged 28/9/9 in the finals!!! Dude is out of this world. I hate sports shows just when they first got Durant people say stpeh ain't the same now they are on his nuts. The man does anything to win. He will defer or he will drop 40 on your head it don't matter
Tbh i think he is the best point guard in the league right now. He is complete in a ways. Making plays, scoring from anywhere, FTs, Out rebounded a center in the finals.
'How do you defend a dude that literally is a threat from the moment he crosses half court?"
Nuff said🔥💯💯
Derrick Roseman and you can’t even get in his jersey as soon as he does! Curry’s handles don’t get talked about enough.
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Very underrated handles fam!!! He's more finesse I like to say. Kyrie just nasty with it
Cuz he folds under pressure blew a 3 to 1 lead lol
Indeed. Like Steve Kerr said, Steph "instils the fear of God" on defenders.
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I'll never forget when the Warriors were at OKC it was the nearing the end of OT and Steph was just casually walking past Half Court and he drained the Game-Winning Shot. Dude knew that a Half Court shot was going in, Nobody has that kind of confidence in their shot.
wcf I remember that
Besides Jordan against the jazz that lowkey was the craziest game winner I’ve ever seen
He actually had enough time to make it to the 3 point line but decided to pull up near half
The day Durant knew he was leaving 😂... Steph will snatch your soul right out of your chest
Blue Jam Joker That game, plus the WCF made Durant join him. Otherwordly shit.
Steph doesn't need to be that clutch... He finished most teams in 3 quarters
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This is straight facts
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BUT THIS MAN GOT A SUPERTEAM WIT KD AND KLAY he doesn’t even need to try that hard he can drop 30 in his sleep
Exactly
The subtle thing about Steph's numbers is that most of the time he finishes his job in 3 qtrs and sits out the entire 4th. He could have had multiple 70+ games by now
Fisayo Watti yeah he had 46 in 3 quarters he only scored 3 in the 2nd he could've had a 60 point game if he went off in the 2nd
okay maybe not 70...but definitely many 50 pt and a few possible 60 pt games
Yeah, 70 is possible but a bit much. Can definitely see multiple 50 pt games. Maybe even 60pt ones.
Hehe I may have gotten carried away there but for arguments sake let's say by multiple I mean at least 2. The thing I'm looking at is momentum. In the majority of games where Curry scores 40+ points he explodes in the 3rd qtr and drops about 70% of his points there, getting progressively hotter until either the qtr ends or Kerr takes him out. He's usually glowing red hot by the time he gets benched for the remainder of the game because GSW is already leading by that much. If he were to carry that momentum into the 4th qtr and play starter minutes (this is a guy that scored 13 points in about 100 secs against Boston), i really do believe he'd have had at least 2 70+ point games.
Fisayo Watti Steph is NOT getting 70+. If he was to play the 4th quarter of those games he would eventually fatigue smartass.
Curry isnt considered clutch because he rarely has the opportunity to be clutch. How are you gonna be called a closer when you sit out most 4th quarters because you're bootyblasting teams that badly?
AfterLifeGuru he had the chance in the finals and as we all witnessed he had no screens n Love locked him up after Kyrie busted a 3 in his face on his court and took the 🏆 out of Oracle 😳
Curry is weak with without screens and was missing in action in crunch time of the finals, now that KD is there his ego along with his huge ass teeth have gotten bigger 😳
clay cox Steph was hurt and his lateral speed was obviously affected... also the warriors run the least amount of pick and rolls in the league yet people still claim Steph needs screens... just shows that you're just another hater with little to no knowledge
clay cox WEAK WITHOUT SCREENS?!! I GUESS EVERY SHOOTER IS TRASH WITHOUT THE 3 POINT LINE AS WELL...are u dumb
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@@claycox1829 If you're ignorant just say that
The disrespect of nba players and media to curry is ridiculous. They just cant admit his greatness, but when its game time they trap him, double team him, push him around, and all dirty tricks. I think that in itself already define his greatness.
curry's off ball game is astronomically on another level to a point that kyrie's style won't give him the ability to catch up to him. It's his off ball movement that makes him so hard to guard and lets his teammates shine while playing with steph. Kyrie's style is to iso ball
off ball movement is a result of a system allowing for it, under brad i'm sure kyrie will improve drastically especially if they can get some more assets that allow kyrie to not always have to be the offense.
Curry has Durant Klay and Draymond to initiate.
Kyrie has Kyrie, Kyrie, and Horford
iamprinceofpennis lol you haven't watched any celts games if you don't think kyrie is elite off the ball
^steph literally leads the league in distance travelled per game by a huge margin dude is moving and cutting every second he's on the floor and that takes a TREMENDOUS amount of stamina and basketball iq/awareness. so you can't just assume kyrie or anyone is capable of doing the same thing steph does if they're under the right system. maybe kyrie can but he sure as well won't be nearly as effective on iso possessions if he spends that much energy off the ball like steph does.
players have strengths and weaknesses and the so called "systems" are TAILORED towards that. if you have lebron and kyrie on the team you're gonna have them play iso ball and spread the court with shooters if you have steph and klay you're gonna have them run around the court like crazy for catch and shoot looks. teams are not stupid if they can play like golden state they will but they dont have the right pieces. kyrie is better off playing iso than playing off the ball that's why you can't just say oh but kyrie can do the same he's just not playing under the right system.
You can apply off ball movement in any system moron. But a lot of these offensive players like Melo, LeBron, Kyrie, and Westbrook like to save their energy by sitting out on the perimeter ball watching.
Kyrie needs a ton of energy for isolation plays. This is why Curry will perform well even when he is age 35+. He doesn't rely heavily on explosive athleticism because all he needs is a 4 inch jump with a flick of the wrist or an easy drive in an open lane without iso-playing.
What separates Curry from past greats is the volume of his 3 pointers. Not only is his percentage higher. He takes a lot more of them. Plus, he is more accurate from further away. Defenses have to stretch so far to cover him that entire interior of the court is opened up. And the Warriors wreak havoc as a result.
Curry is proof that "making teammates better" doesn't always mean passing the ball. He opens so much space that other guys have room to operate.
It's insane that he shoots at such a high percentage with such difficult shots... I mean, look at his footwork, it's all over the place because he's getting his shot up so quick, but it goes in anyway
Joshua Hart he's really a marvel to watch. I'm not even a Warriors fan. But I love great basketball. I catch them as often as possible.
Not to mention his off the ball movement is ridiculous. Which contributes to making his teammates better
and then some idiot says "he only averages 5 assists a game" and completely disregards the fact that his teammates get open look after open look because the defense is petrified about where Steph is on the court and often times you will see multiple defenders jumping out at him on the perimeter while someone else gets a free layup. But certainly Curry didn't help create those shots because he didnt get an assist right? Logic at its best.
BlueWave finally a comment section where everyone isn't biased and actually watches the whole game instead of basing everything off of highlights and statistics
People seem to misunderstand over the years that Curry is NOT a product of the Warriors, but the Warriors are a product of Steph. People love to take greatness for granted.
jonathan nguyen I agree.
That was a gd take🎉🎉🎉🎉6yrs later get ur flowers sir
Curry 2017 finals 26.8 pts 8.0 reb 9.4 ast
I hate maxs argument. He’s using one specific example to make a claim about a much bigger thing. Sure he got outplayed by Kyrie in the 2016 finals but one series shouldn’t be your only argument. Like kobe got outplayed by Paul pierce in the 2008 finals, does that mean Paul pierce is better?
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Lol for real. Dude is too busy living in the last five minutes of Game 7 of the '16 Finals (when Steph wasn't even 100%). How about the most recent Finals?
Nonchalant1996 Did Max just use a series that Steph was injured in to make a point? Does he not realize that when Steph is healthy, he averages 26, 7, and 6 in the finals? He hit a dagger in Kyrie's face in the 2017 finals to punctuate the game... When Curry is healthy, there's no need to close a game in the final seconds because his opponent will already be blown out of the water.
why even have to bring up 2016, when curry out played kyrie 2017 finals. your spot on facts!
He's also forgetting Lebron played Def on Curry. Let's see how Kyrie does with Lebron (aged) playing D on him. Then we can say if Kyrie is close to being Curry clutch.
Every single time I watch Steph Curry I shake my head I don't think people understand how ridiculously unbelievable a shooter this dude is, it's ineffable.
It’s honestly ridiculous, his shooting is other worldly.
Wavey Zatch Very much so.
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If I’m choosing a PG and it is between Steph and Kyrie I’m going with Steph. He is a threat from anywhere on the floor and creates problems for teams on defense just by his presence alone. AND this man is disruptive on D and causes turnover let me point that out. Kyrie is a great player but he’s not Steph.
Have you ever watched Steph just shoot around in practice? the dude literally DOESNT MISS
exactly kyrie is an iso player while steph is good plus he makes everyone around him better
@Maurice Terrell have you seen kyrie win one ring
Lil BRAZY KHY fanboy
@@2highdj997 well with LeBron.
@@MrHarshverdhan by himself
Max is forgetting Curry wasn't 100% in the 2016 Finals, maybe not even %80. Still went to 7 Games with the Cavs (Kyrie) hitting a last sec shot!
who is even 100% at the end of season. GTFOH manny pacquiao.
iamprinceofpennis He missed a few games in the playoffs that year did he not? That's what I mean. And this isn't the NFL, BBall players are still in better health, relatively, by the end of the season. Pretty sure Kyrie was in better health than Steph in 16' and visa versa in 15'.
WhipAddict Curry was absolutely fine and he let everybody know when he was yelling “I’m Back!” against the Trail Blazers in the second round
Also he didn’t have surgery or anything in the off-season after so it was totally made up even Steve Kerr said he was fine
The WallStar The man missed 6 games in the Playoffs that year. Idc what you say, he wasn't himself. And of course THEY aren't going to use any excuses man, come on dude.
Uh He had a MCL sprain. You don't come fine after just a couple weeks off of that.
I love Kyrie and he's a flat out SUPERSTAR but Curry is just better
Brian Cheng Max said that.
Slide Skywalker But kyrie will never be better
Lord Keith don’t get better confused with greater.
Lord Keith curry has 1 all star over kyrie and he's damn near 5 years older. Was curry even a top 15 for mvp candidate at his age?
Flat out...like the Earth? 🤔
Y'all say Steph Curry doesn't show up in the 4th quarter....
Well, that's usually because Steph and the Warriors are usually blowing out their competition by the end of the 3rd
So we're just gonna forget about 17 points in over time and his clutch shots when he was down 3-1 to the thunder? Do we forget about how clutch he was last finals?
Ass_4285 Smith he was clutch against okc but not in the finals that same year lol or did u just skip over that
Walley Mccall Steph was hurt In that finals. If u watched the games he could barely get separation from Kevin love.
What about how clutch he was against the blazers in OT in 2016 semifinals? It bothers me how Max stays psychologically stuck in the 2016 NBA Finals.
Or even the 2015 first round and 2015 Finals games 4-6. Literally he had one subpar series and now everyone thinks he's a choker.
Walley Mccall that’s the point everyone including you always focuses on the 2016 finals but never focuses on his clutch moments
they neglected to consider that they are comparing what steph does in 3 quarters against what kyrie does in 4 and steph still smokes him. nit to mention max is outright lying, kyries best d is straight up terrible
Steve Trini go away bandwagon
when a dudr speak facts they gotta be a bandwagon ? lol y'all troll these days
Max Kellerman on that "Kyrie vs Steph in the Finals" stuff cause of the shot Kyrie hit over Steph in game 7 to ice the game.
But he conveniently forgets that Steph came back the very next year and hit the dagger in game 5 over Kyrie in an almost mirror of the previous year as revenge.
It wasn't a dagger, the game was out of reach. Stop trying to redeem Steph, Kyrie owns him.
Christian Bebee by owns him, I guess u mean 2 finals losses against him
Yo ItzWrighty Team sport dumbass.
Christian Bebee Steph is better fact
Christian Bebee Game 5- Curry has a 30 point near triple double and scores 8 points and has 2 assists in the fourth quarter while Kyrie shoots 0-6 and has 2 turnovers in the fourth quarter of game 5. Curry averaged 27/9/8 while being double teamed and trapped in every single pick and roll and almost every time he crosses past half court with the ball in his hands. Curry definitely redeemed himself whether you like it or not
I think Max is smoking that WEEEEEEDA. Did he forget that Steph nearly averaged a triple double in the Finals last year. Yes, small, frail Steph Max!!! Also, he is the ONLY UNANIMOUS MVP EVER. Even the man's jockstrap that you worship LeBron has never been that Max. Let's be clear Kyrie is a BAAAAAAAD MAAAAN but has a couple of levels to get to Steph. There's levels to this thing.
BlkDiesel people like Max only think of 2016 finals when they think of Steph and just completely ignore every single other series he’s played in.
2 years before KD showed up he was considered a no show in the finals even against OKC when klay brought them back from 3-1 curry face was on milk cartons. Curry is the better overall player but Kyrie is better when it really counts
@Apexways47 Valid point regarding the OKC series and the Finals 2 years ago. Although, LeBron gets all the credit any basketball purist knows Kyrie was the MVP of that series 2 years ago and throughly outplayed Steph in that series. But, its amazing that they hold that OKC series and Finals against him and seem to downplay what may go down as one of the most dominant years by any player ever in the NBA wire to wire. Curry's 16' to 17' season is simply amazing when you check the stats and the accomplishments for a PG. The guy has singlehandedly changed the way the game will be played from here on. As great a talent as Kyrie is he still has some proving to do to be on Steph's level.
BlkDiesel Kyrie did get credit but to say Lebron didn’t deserve that mvp after leading in every statistical category in the finals against the best team ever? Yes Kyrie deserves credit but lets not act like he wasnt a no show until game 3. Curry proved what he can do with Durant injured against the best teams.
Just for the record the worst game that Kyrie had in that 2016 series was game 2. He had 10 pts 1 ast and 8 rebounds, it was the only game he didn't show up. He had 26 pts 4 ast and 3 reb in game 1. Then from there he pretty much was unstoppable for the next 5 games and thorougly outplayed Steph. LeBron did what he's supposed to do but even with his stats there is no way they go to game 7 without Kyrie. He changed that whole series.
To your last point, I believe that both Curry and Durant have shown what they can both do when each other is out. They complement each other extremely well.
Currys is the greatest at running the game WITHOUT the ball. How he’s able to get open off ball is amazing
LuuKang11 thats facts
Being dominant without the ball is underrated. Steph doesn't hog the ball, when he has it he either does something or gives the ball up to let his gravity do the work - proficient. Larry Bird was excellent at dominating games without the ball as well.
Curry is a game changer. He got everybody and they mama shooting 3's. MVP status
This Steph doesn’t show up in the finals narrative is just false. He averaged 27p 8r 9a last finals. Overshadowed bc KD dropped 35ppg
the truth curry is the leader, he brings out the best in his team mates , that's they are champions.
My man curry averaged 26.8PPG, 8.0AST, 9.4 Rebounds, and 2.2 steals in the finals yet "he doesn't show up".
And the 2016 finals the one WITHOUT KD?????????????????????????????
He doesn't in the clutch
Yeah when he has KD to back him up and he ain't getting doubled.
DatNiqqa 23 5 and 4 while getting doubled all game cuz they can’t guard him ain’t bad.
DatNiqqa How about the 2015 finals when he averaged 26, 6, and 5 and was robbed of the Finals MVP?
Curry is most revolutionary as a shooter, Klay is most consistent ever. Best shooter duo we will ever have seen.
Davit beliashvili why don't you tell me tomorrows lottery numbers while you're at it
I agree with that.
Steph is underrated in my opinion. I think this guy could be in the argument of best player in the league. A lot of shine was lost when durant joined. People forgot what Steph did that 73-9 season. I don't think any other player would have led that team to 73-9. There was a point that season that everyone was like damn this guy might be the best in the game right now! I am a warrior hater too but this guy's take over ability is very similar to the best of the best.
Steph is the greatest shooter period. And Im a Cavs fan. My whole family love the Cavs. But this man Steph is a whole other level. And not only is his shooting amazing. It’s his off ball offense. Its literally what creates space for himself and even for the whole team. Thats why the Warriors can score 10-15 points in almost 2 minutes.
Mark Lart *1 minute
Mark Lart lol I'm a Celts fan and I completely agree.. I honestly find it HILARIOUS watching those times where it just looks like he throws the ball up.. no form at ALL... just muscle memory... he's ridiculous
john landry It is honestly so funny. But its just so damn entertaining !
ReFuze Fusion you're honestly right my brotha!
You're a real NBA fan
Did y’all see the last couple minutes of that game? Steph curry. No debate.
Not so fast my guy, did you see the final seconds of that game 7? Don’t hang stephs hat on one game, I could do the same with Kyrie, but Kyrie’s actually meant more
Nihan Mendis I also hate the warriors. Have to respect greatness though.
Kyrie is better overall, curry is a better shooter. Curry might be smarter and utilizes his team better. They help him get is shot on most occasions
Where was clutch Kyrie last night against the GSW. Curry had 10 points in the last 10 minutes
Sun Spot Kyrie isn’t Better overall, Curry has a higher layup percentage despite what the media tells you, a higher fg%, mid range %, 3pt % and more points. He’s better than Kyrie in EVERY way, except Kyrie slightly more clutch.
Didn’t Curry outplayed Kyrie this passed finals? I don’t understand max kellermans argument
KJTheGoat23 with the team that golden state have with KD its easier. Kyrie is better going in and curry the best shooter. Kyrie is a big reason y cleveland have a ring
KJTheGoat23 stop being dumb. You know what he meant. He's closer than you assume if you compare them as an overall player.
Skip Payless you dumb as fuck. Curry is a 2x mvp. Kyrie will never win an mvp. Idiot.
Do people forget the Curry averaged 27 ppg, 9 assists, and 8 rebounds in these last finals?
Steph Curry’s the greatest shooter ever? Did you guys also know water is wet?
Wetness is the ability of a liquid to adhere to the surface of a solid, so when we say that something is wet, we mean that the liquid is sticking to the surface of a material. Therefor water is not wet
Water do not only adhere to an object. It also adhere’s to itself, so yes, it is wet by your definition.
hahahahaha i like comment . Water is not wet . Thats true .
Stephen Curry is the greatest shooter alive, nothing but respect
Why is max kellerman even allowed to speak on tv
Steph Curry = best PG of all time 🐐
Max, too bad you missed the best NBA game of the year when the Warriors beat the Celtics on Saturday. Or maybe you just turned it off for the 4th quarter. Curry scored 13 points in the last 1:42. He hit a 3-pointer, a layup and then 8 free throws! He did not miss a shot or a free throw down the stretch. Kyrie scored only 5 points during that same stretch and missed a free throw. Curry had 49 points and only 1 turnover. Kyrie had 37 points and 3 turnovers.
I admit, Kyrie outperformed Curry in the 2016 finals when Curry was INJURED. Dubs almost won anyway.
Again, that was when Curry was injured. Jeez.
That was when Curry was INJURED! LBJ was not able to guard Curry in the recent game on Jan. 15. th-cam.com/video/sVhDvIhx9i4/w-d-xo.html
It's kind of sad that the best you can do is keep citing the match up when Curry was injured and try to pretend he was healthy.
Kyrie couldn't even make the playoffs in the lame East before LBJ came back...
That missed free throw was missed intentionally, so they could win the game.
BitJam kyrie was injured in 2017 finals. Literally limping off the court when the game ended.
People hate on curry so much but Curry is gonna go down as a top 3 PG ever. He changed the game
melokid99 LeBron is the most hated player in the NBA
FB 25 nah prob Durant is
Mike.curry30 when LeBron went to Miami, he was getting booed everywhere and KD wasn't getting booed like him.
FB 25 hell no wtf. Maybe years ago but now everyone loves LeBron and want him to be the greatest
melokid99 everyone? How about the warrior bandwagons who create fake accounts making fun of his hairline, finals record, 2011?calling him " Lebum" or something stupid
Steph Curry’s presence alone shakes up defenses. He’s definitely better than Kyrie. Kyrie is still a bad man tho
Have we seen kyrie in the playoffs yet without lebron?! Curry took his team all the way to the finals 2 times before Kd joined
Jofundy lmao u mean their bench took them to the finals???? That team would have not gotten where they got without their number 1 in the NBA bench. They can sit okay curry and kd and still win.
11onejay that’s the dumbest thing I ever heard
11onejay ........what??? Bruh who man’s is this!!!!!
Naaaaa Gsw could hold its own before KD chillll, Curry was their main star but Drayton, Klay and Iggy were enough to nearly cancel out LeBron and Kyrie, Don't compare Kyrie and a trash team to Curry and a team that nearly swept the regular season. Curry not that great. How dare you compare Kyrie and LeBron and Love to Steph who is excellent, Klay who is an underated excellence, Kevin Durant the second greatest player in the league, Draymond, Iggy, and a strong bench. GSW is stacked. Take KD from them they'd still be tough to beat. And KD is clutch too which is something Curry isn't.
Jofundy I hate that narrative that kyrie can’t lead a team he is 1 seed in the east this year and he was still like 21 playing with scrubs
Dont forget Curry does not play his 4th Quaters on a regular basis, so his stats are actually *lower* than what they could be.
Steph is better than Kyrie. Revolutionized the game. Amazing inside game. Stretches the floor. Disrputs defenses (almost like Shaq, but with shooting. Every team has to plan around how to defend Curry). TEAM PLAYER. Good Passer, even though he makes dumb decisions sometimes. Knows how to play with Stars, unlike a lot of players in the league.
Kyrie, on the other hand, has the best handles I have ever fucking seen. Good 3pt shooter. Better clutch player. Has the man ever missed a layup?? I mean his layup package is ridiculous. Can lead a team. Tends to break down late in playoffs. Kyrie is amazing, but doesn't create as much havoc to the defense as Steph does. Steph has been doubled EVERY game ever since his breakout year, especially in the playoffs.
Russy Russ can kyrie dunk
Why is max acting like Curry didn’t damn near average a triple double in the last finals... also he averages more points in the finals than kyrie... so I don’t understand Max’s point. The only thing he’s probably thinking about is game 7 of 2016
Cmindless
Every GM in the league would take 27, 8, 9
Ethan Lathon
In that Game 7 Draymond scored more than everybody and had more rebounds than everybody.
I guess Draymond is better than Curry , LeBron, Kyrie, Love, Klay and anybody else that played in that game.
we gonna pretend like curry didnt drop 37 on lebrons headtop in game 5 of the 2015 finals
Nakib Has didn't realize LeBron guarded him the whole time
curry gets so disrespected in the 2015 finals, its bullshit he didn't get mvp, his stats were actually above his regular season average that year in the finals and he was a monster in those close out games especially in that game 4 when cavs were up 2-1 and then the close out in game 6 in cleveland steph was great
the 1 finals he didn't perform as well was the 2016 finals weather you wanna give him the excuse of he was never fully healthy from getting hurt but what ever thats 1 finals he some what under performed but thats cause of the insane standard curry has displayed
and he almost averaged a triple double him self in the 2017 finals but that doesn't get talked about as much as lebron averaging a triple double while his team got dismantled in 5 games
Lets not speak NOTHING negative about lebron in 2015 finals. He AT LEAST deserve respect from that finals alone
Jose Martinez that's because if he did Curry woulda had 47.
yeye lebron my favourite player but lets not act like curry choked that finals
Kyrie literally went 0/6 in the 4th Quarter of Game 5 in the NBA Finals 2017. Clutch ??
Gent M thank you! Kyrie know Curry is the king.
both reggie and ray allen said that steph is the best shooter they've ever seen. why would some 12-year old's comment matter lmao
Ardy S Reggie actually said Petrovic is
I definitely Agree...case closed!
y’all forget the NBA before steph... he has changed the culture of basketball.
For the first time in weeks Stephen A won.
Curry is the best shooter in NBA history and it's not even close.
Steph is the most disrespected all time great ever dude, when tf will he get the credit he deserves man
I would say Wilt and Russell are disrespected more. Steph is the most disrespected superstar in the league tho.
Steph will go down as the greatest PG ever. Don't care what you say. He is that good. Curry is amazing. Nigga drops 30 in 3Q and goes to sleep.
oldnbaschool westbrook better especially his historic season last year
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You know what a pg supposed to do right? pass first shot second that's what a true pg is i cant say he's going down as the greatest pg ever but i could say he is the greatest shooter ever.
why so serious? Westbrook is not curry.
Stephen Curry made eight 3-pointers on his way to a season-high 49 points in Saturday's win over the Celtics. This was Curry's 36th career game making at least eight 3-pointers. The next three players with the most such games in NBA history -- JR Smith, Klay Thompson and Ray Allen -- have combined for 33 such games. -- Michael Schwartz
Really ask yourself this question. Would you want a good point guard that has the best Handles in the game on your team? Or a good point guard that is the best shooter in NBA history and revolutionized the game of basketball on your team?
Omar Dabbagh I'm going with the shooter
Omar Dabbagh what about the best clutch player in the league?
Ginger Bread sorry bro kobe retired already
Kyrie will never be better. Curry's shooting ability changes the whole defense and he pushes the tempo better than anyone in NBA history. Kyrie plays in isolation too much.
Bay is Bae boy u stupid
Boy ain't that the truth but Kyrie is gone develop into the overall better player
kyrie irving nah he's got a good point. Curry made it absolutely impossible to play the zone in the NBA, bruh low key changes the game
plays iso too much? bruh have u seen a single celtics game this year? its all coaching.
Bay is Bae , just imagine if Curry didn't play 3 years at Davidson and came in the draft after his first year, and also imagine if Curry didn't have so many ankle injuries in his early career. I wonder what his numbers would look like ?.... Especially his 3 point numbers.
I rather have curry than kyrie. Them 3’s are something I’ll never want to go against.
Kory Brown he does both a lot
Max is the same guy that said IT is his favorite player to watch LOL
Steph IS the greatest Shooter of ALL TIME in the NBA.
Like Stephen A said, Once Steph passes half court, he is a threat. Point blank PERIOD!
Max is on serious drugs. He talks about Steph like he has ever been trash in finals. Let's look at it:
2017 Finals: 26.8 pts; 8.0 rebs; 9.4 assits; 2.2 stls on 44% shooting
2016 Finals: 22.6 pts; 4.9 rebs; 3.7 assits on 40.3% shooting
2015 Finals: 26.0 pts; 5.2 rebs; 6.3 assits; 1.8 stls on 44.3% shooting
Points to be considered:
- Steph was the clear MVP in 2015, he got robbed.
- In 2016 we all know he wasn't healthy.
Put some respect on Curry's name.
Luan Savariz Stats are for the blind witnesses, Curry's impact was nowhere to be found in those finals.
Durant took over those games, not Steph.
Eagles fan since 2006. We did expect a lot coming into the 2016 finals because of what they accomplished during the regular season. But it's no excuse he had a knee injury during post-season that would drastically impact his game.
Brother Malcolm Whatever makes you sleep at night, bruh
Relative to his MVP caliber regular seasons, Curry does underperform in the finals imo, but even if he averaged 18-4-4 on 35% shooting in a series, his impact is just so great. In 2016 when the Cavs won in 7, Curry averaged 20 ppg on 40% shooting and they still should’ve won in 5 if Green wasn’t suspended. If you look at pure box score stats only, it’s indisputable that kyrie tends to play better than Curry, but Curry’s presence on the floor alone is the greatest since MJ
Luan Savariz 2016 he was definitely hurt. He couldn't even get separation on K Love of all people.
This the best argument Steven A Smith ever put together... Steph is easily the best shooter ever...
Best Shooters in the world:
Steph Curry
The Police
Steph doesn’t need to close most the time because he smashes teams and sits the 4th Quarter lol
tiger22 exactly
tiger22 Exactly! That 3rd quarter damage with klay, kd and steph is just deadly. Steph has a stacked team compared to kyrie with rookies. Not a fair comparison by team.
Steph is not as good in the 4th because he doesn’t play in the 4th... he plays 3 quarters and destroys the team then and sits in the 4th
so true😂
True
Haha ya true
Steph averaged 28/9/9 in the FINALS! my guy never fell off. In fact he’s playing out of this WORLD right now!
does anybody remember steph was hurt in the playoffs when they loss the championship he got hurt in the western conference games and people keep calling him choker jezz
Shawn Moore you so right. And they injured him on purpose. That was the most physical playoffs in the last 10 years. They were targeting curry.
Steph was injured 2016 finals. and in 2017 his numbers were great, it was just overshadowed by kd
Junu Johnny because curry was the second option and the cavs were so worried about defending kd at times it looked like they forgot about curry and then u got to worry about leaving klay open
Junu Johnny he wasn't injured against Portland tho right when he came back and drop 40 so no that's not an excuse he still was out there playing
Jonathanflores Flores thank you I’ve been saying this but they say he’s still injured like no stop it
Steph has 2 MVPs, 2 rings, is an elite passer, a much better defender than Kyrie, a better scorer, a better shooter, and a much more effective scorer. How can anyone compare Kyrie to Steph?
Real players know steph doesn't play defense
AshtonRoyale Kyrie doesn’t either
U lost all respect when u said steph is a better defender lmao. Curry is a better shooter but that’s it. Kyrie is a pure scorer. Both great players I love both. Kyrie in a couple years will pass him though
You must’ve just started watching basketball.
Both are mediocre defenders
Max sounds stupid. Steph has the 7th best scoring average in the finals ALL TIME.
Djparker24 he only played in 3 finals dummy
The point is when you have the teams he had and only had 3 finals it's not hard to do it
Skeezus Christ so you can do that?
Alberto Reyes true but theres people who played in way more than 3 and there's also trash bench players who ain't play a finals min but got a ring so...
Skeezus Christ 3 finals a lot wtf
How many times has Stephan A said the same thing over and over? "he's the greatest shooter I've ever seen". and with KD, "he's 6 foot 11 can handle the ball AND SHOOT FROM 30" LOL
Kyrie will never have a season as great as Curry's 2016 season. And Kyrie is my favorite player.
Emmanuel Moses it was a lil hyped up tho... but curry is still the best shooter to ever play
J D 73 wins & unanimous mvp is hyped?
kyrie just a boss clutch
lek lek is it a team sport or not? He was on the best team in the league that couldn't even win a ring. And he def should not have been the unanimous MVP.
Stephen Curry is the greatest shooter in the nba
Marcos Lopez From Anywhere.
Marcos Lopez facts
The dude could literally shoot past half court and still could nail the shot. The guy literally is the fastest- effecient scorer in NBA history
This didn't age well max.
Curry averaged 26 9 and 8 in the finals...
David Owen shut yo bitch ass up Lbj got beat by a sick Dirk in 2011 finals completely embarrassed your “GOAT” lmao
Kid-_Flash - How is LeBron 3-5 when he played his whole career wit superteams lmaooo this nigga is top 10 all time, handpicked teams, and still lose in the finals 🤣🤣🤣🤣
David Owen fuck you David. Little stupid ass bitch ain’t nobody fucking with you.
David Owen He carried a team filled with rookies and had JARRET JACK as his second best player into the second round of the 2013 playoffs and almost beat the Spurs. You’re an ignorant idiot
Donald Whitlock Facts.
If u guys ever watch the whole game of steph u will realize how effective this guy is. He goes iso max 5 possessions per game and is willing to pass first and move without the ball. That is a true point guard. Making other guys better and making plays for them. Kyrie and Westbrook go iso min 20 possessions. Westbrook passes to get assist and shoot ridiculous shots.
Maxx you based your entire argument on the one shot in the finals, CURRY WAS NOT 100% how clutch was Kyrie last year in the finals? Dont get me wrong Kyrie is one of the greats and is going to solidify himself as that, but dont kid yourself, lets wait till Kryie gets a couple MVPs and a few more rings before we start with that nonsense.
Vincent GanVogh Kyrie was ineffective at best inexistent at worst in last year's finals Max is drunk outta his mind
They both actually make GREAT points. Great TAKE
Curry All Day Everyday!!!
History shows that Curry is the PG on the Best Team in History.
Steph is a better defender, better passer, and he’s the greatest shooter of all time, and his presence on the court alone makes his teammates better. I’m takin #30 all day.
steph is a better defender???? lmao, FOH
He isnt a better defender passing is close dont let thoose flashy passes fool you
immag530 he did lead the league in steals during his 2nd MVP season so that proves that.
NoHandDan kyrie is one of the worst defensive PGs in the league.. Steph however is Top 10 if we talk about just stats. I don't want nobody to talk about the warriors being a better team and all this other shit either because if we're talking defense, pound for pound, the Celtics are right there next to the Warriors.
He's a much better defender then Kyrie. That doesn't mean he's a great defender, but he is better then Kyrie.
Man Curry playing on a MVP Level the eye test for real hoopers and lets not talk the "numbers" Currys 2017 finals numbers:
26.8 ppg 9.4 ast 8.0 rebounds that's dam near a triple double.
What makes curry different he can play with anybody
Max acts like Curry is a scrub in the finals. Curry last year averaged 26.8pts , 9.4 assists, and 8.0 rebs. Last time checked that's almost a triple-double , and he did that averaging 37 mins a game that's 5 mintues less than LeBron. If KD didn't go completely nuts Curry would have won finals MVP.
I'll take Curry over Kyrie any day if we're going for a game winner with no time out. Nobody spaces the floor like Curry, he's the engine to that team, is the better player and yes Kyrie is insanely clutch and him dropping that killer 3 on Curry in the finals was insane but I don't feel like curry isn't clutch due to not playing up to his par in a finals when he was coming off of an ankle injury. Curry is clutch, he's the better player, but both brothers are amazing to watch do their thing, respect them both and hope this is a finals preview cause this game was amazing. Side note I can't wait to see the Celtics with Hayward.
I mean seriously, Curry is a threat from the other teams 3 point line. Like wtf?
Is it me or has curry improved on defense this year a lot
R3FLEXZS Just you
Curry has always been active on defense. Everything you ask on defense, he does. He has led the league in steals before. People that don't understand basketball try to discredit that, but he has always contributed on defense.
Not really. The elite point guards destroy him once they get that switch every time.
Today I learned max kellerman has no idea what he's talking about
I could not believe the disrespect he was giving Curry
He’s a casual watcher have him stick to boxing.
Max is right, explain why he's wrong
Chrollo L You should have known.
Drake Budasz There is no debate, my eyes tell me that Kyrie is better bro, period
Kyrie is more herky jerky like DRose. That type of game ages faster than Steph’s.
Kyrie won’t catch Steph.
SD Bo you're right it takes a toll on your body more that's why he's always hobbled in the finals
S.A.S. Spiting fire like he usually does. 🐲🔥🔥🔥
Bout time they put some respek on curry name
Stephen Curry is a better PG...
SAS made a point though....curry aint that clutch cause the damage already been done in 3 quarters and max said kyrie can play defense but doesn't...how does that make sense???
loool
When you win MVP 2x, let's start talking.
Imagine how many more points Curry would have if he played every 4th quarter he sat.
no one cares about stats. curry is averaging more than kyrie
but ask anyone who's the pure scorer
and anyone with sense would say kyrie
fau2an100 are u Def ?
Crazy thing nobody acknowledges about Curry is how fast he can score and run up the score board.
This man can literally drop 30 in a quarter on 10 3pointers...if he didn’t have Kd and Klay he’d easily be scoring 40-50 a game.
Curry scores more efficiently with less effort than any player in the game.
His handles are only second to kyrie, his passing is great also.
My Team Over Yours have to disagree. KD is the player that can score the easiest because of his height. BUT, Curry is the best shooter and can get up to 40 points with almost no problem. His weakness? Himself. But when he is hot there is no chance to stop the Warriors
My Team Over Yours lol steph needs the help dont get it twisted he has that ability but often he scores most his points in a half rarely plays good 4 quarters the team keeps it close for him a lot of the times
My Team Over Yours 40 to 50 a game dude no😂😂 maybe 30
And he makes everyone better
Omar Kareem didn’t he pull up from almost half in the clutch lmao
Max's argument in a nutshell: sandbag 3 quarters and play lights out for 1 is better than scoring 40 points in 3 quarters and riding the bench in the 4th
The word your looking for is efficiency :D
People are forgetting that in the 2017 finals kyrie in game 5 was 1-6 in the third quarter and 0-5 in the fourth quarter Where kyrie at then? Kyrie has a not shown up before and he was healthy. It's crazy how people bring the 2016 finals for Steph but, he was injured throughout the whole playoffs. Curry averaged in the 2017 finals 28/9/8 along with over 2 steals.
as much as i hate cleveland, kyrie was the scariest dude on that squad. gnarly finishes and every time he shot you knew there was a chance it was going in no matter how tough it was
tristan3754
Scariest in terms of being the most dominant or just in terms of the clutch moments?
J. ROD both, but especially in the clutch. hated having to play him bc he makes damn near every shot
tristan3754
The more intimidating player in terms of overall dominance would be LBJ
Kyrie is a bad man. But he doesn't have nearly the impact on the game overall that Steph does. It isn't a one on one game
slamandjam2 thats a lie 2016 finals where he shit on curry proved that. 2017 finals proved that to if kd wasnt there lebron and kyrie would have raped the warriors
Kyrie just had 54pts. & only missed 4 shots
Curry could've retired this year and still be the GOAT Shooter. Whether these analyst admit it or continue to say "he's one of the best" is irrelevant. Water is Wet
I love them both.. but Max.. this man Steph averaged 28/9/9 in the finals!!!
Dude is out of this world. I hate sports shows just when they first got Durant people say stpeh ain't the same now they are on his nuts. The man does anything to win. He will defer or he will drop 40 on your head it don't matter
Tbh i think he is the best point guard in the league right now. He is complete in a ways. Making plays, scoring from anywhere, FTs, Out rebounded a center in the finals.
Kulpreet Singh But but but Russel Westbrook averaged a triple doub... Curry is miles ahead, I agree
Curry is a better PG than Kyrie and its just facts.
Curry again underrated by the media. It's OK because Curry likes to be the underdog.
Terrence underrated ? That’s a no Steph is mentioned in the top 5 all the time . They say he’s the greatest shooter ever .that’s high regards
Terrence how?
stashouse617 lmfao no one says steph is a top 5 player of all time. Definitely top 5 CURRENTLY. Unless of course, they ride steph hard