I have an LG Classic which I bought around '96-'97 no problems, however I have roughly 30yrs of experience in the fire service - on ladders up to 110' , and was certified by the state of Fl. and Orange County as an instructor. There are several whom posted immediately below me that address your incident and to their statements I'll add; your climbing was pretty good (especially after your fall) right up to the point at which you leaned forward, then there are numerous errors. You should have at least three rungs above your roof contact point, they serve as a point for you to have a safe control when you depart the ladder. No water, or other substances which could cause you to slip. I saw that you added a stop point (2x4) at the base to stop slippage, but that is not the best thing to do; we have a function referred to as a "butt-man" whose sole function is to stand on the inner aspect of the ladder, between the ground contact and the building holding the ladder while it is being climbed (though I doubt this would have helped you in your demonstrated maneuver, as your weight and leverage would have probably given the same results. I'm sorry for your incident. Many people work around equipment without appreciating the total scope (and I didn't cover all of that here); I've seen death from falling 8' at a construction site, slip and fall in a shower, we even had a firefighter fall 30' during training and it was determined it was due to the slick bottom boots which were worn. I wish you the best of luck and hope your recovery goes well. The fall may have occurred even with a straight ladder but it would have been much less likely; and those straight ladders are far less versatile.
I'm not an expert (still learning about ladders), but here goes: It is because when you got to the top of the ladder, you leaned your body forward. It caused the joint to suddenly shift, which created a 'kick' within the ladder. The 'kick' then transferred to the bottom feet, initiating the slide. If you hadn't leaned your body forward at the top of the ladder, the joint would probably not have shifted at all. Or if did shift, the shift would have been gentler, with very little 'kick'. Ladders scare me. My friend has a large garage, with an upper loft. He has an extension ladder to get up there. (A regular extension ladder, not a 'Little Giant'.) Once when I went up, I felt the bottom of the ladder skid out a few inches. Now that I've seen your video, I conclude I was leaning forward on the ladder at the top. (I was leaning forward at the top when I was trying to step off onto the loft floor.)
Point well taken. My extension ladder has an aluminum foot with a rough flat side and a cleat than can be flipped to dig in to ground. The end of your ladder looks like a rounded plastic, which could slip under those conditions. I was a firefighter for 27 years and do house maintenance. If you are working alone, putting a wooden cleat down on a deck, driveway or hard surface is a good idea even with standard ladders. If working with someone, the person on the ground should put their feet at the bottom of each rail and hold the rail while you transition to and from the roof. I will consider putting a rough cleat on the bottom end of my 17 ft little giant. Better to mar the deck a little than to bounce off of it.
Thanks for sharing. I had another attorney look at the case, and he said it was a cut and dried case. Then he just sat on my paperwork for over a year and didn't do anything. So I asked for my file back and then released the video to help others
75.5 degrees? Why don't they glue a level to the side of it if they want that specific angle. And why that angle??? Any ladder would do that. He doesn't know how to use a ladder.
Little Giant ladder says 75.5 degrees. It's not my number. It's the joint that pops back over center that snaps the legs back. If the joint was tight, there would be no over the center break over. A regular ladder will not do that.
@@mowerdog Yes, it's their number, but who uses a phone to get the exact angle? It's ridiculous. If it's that critical, they should use a visual aid. I don't have one in front of me, but I'm gonna trust you that the extension was far enough away from the deck. It looks, from your video, that the legs are not fully seated because of the extension legs are touching the deck too. Probably an illusion from my perspective. I have to say that your wife is so sweet to follow your directions and try not to get in the way. Remember that all ladders are dangerous and will kill you at a moment's inattention. Good luck and stay safe.
@alext8828 The extention rails of the ladder are around and inch shorter than the main legs. You can see it in the video if you focus on that area. The ladder shows two ways to set it at the propper angle. One is to set it at 75° (not 75.5 °) I was wrong there. The only way to accurately set it at 75° was my phone app. The other way they show is to stand straight up with your toes touching the ladder feet and putting your arms strait out and grabbing the ladder. I used my phone because it's the most accurate method they suggest. Then they say to extend it approximately 3ft about the abject you're laying the ladder on. You can see in the video that the ladder was set up exactly how they wanted. I've been on extension ladders for 40 years as a remodeling contractor without one incident. When it happened I was dumbfounded because I couldn't initially see anything I did or wrong or anything broke on the ladder. One day the light went off in my head and I knew what the issue was. I recreated the incident on my deck and it happened on the first take. It's a flaw.
I fell in February on a Gorilla Ladder (multi-position) leaned. I never climbed over the top of mine because it was leaning on an interior wall but it still had the feet slide backwards…until the entire ladder fell from the wall side with me 15ft up. The ‘feet’ of my ladder are ROUNDED HARD plastic. Not even slanted at all and no grip. Makes no sense! I am now disabled and never will be the same. I am still looking for a lawyer who takes product liability cases. They all want Personal Injury ones (to sue insurance companies). I am sure my current med bills meet your attorneys 300k minimum so hopefully I can get someone to help me soon. I am in Michigan.
I hope you get back to metal detecting. I really liked your hunts. Etrac is pretty heavy and I think you have a Manticore now however I find the Deus 2 very light and easy on my arm.
I’ve used ladders most of my career.. 25+yrs. Fk these ladders! My asshole boss wanted me to use one of these next to power lines and all the way extended with a single run above the gutter.. mind you I’m 230lbs and with the compressor or bag of tools 300+ fk that!!!!! All over the place.. no grip on the feet..bouncing as hell..I’ll stick with a regular extension ladder!! 🖕🏻🫵🏻 boss man!
This is all on you bud. You’re using the ladder all wrong 🤣🤣 I’m sure they would win hands down though. Probably said that just to get you to shut up about it. I’m sorry you got hurt though. That sucks. Watch a video on proper way to use. I have an Alta-1 little giant. Awesome ladder.
I bought it new and it did this to me the third time I used it.
I have an LG Classic which I bought around '96-'97 no problems, however I have roughly 30yrs of experience in the fire service - on ladders up to 110' , and was certified by the state of Fl. and Orange County as an instructor. There are several whom posted immediately below me that address your incident and to their statements I'll add; your climbing was pretty good (especially after your fall) right up to the point at which you leaned forward, then there are numerous errors. You should have at least three rungs above your roof contact point, they serve as a point for you to have a safe control when you depart the ladder. No water, or other substances which could cause you to slip. I saw that you added a stop point (2x4) at the base to stop slippage, but that is not the best thing to do; we have a function referred to as a "butt-man" whose sole function is to stand on the inner aspect of the ladder, between the ground contact and the building holding the ladder while it is being climbed (though I doubt this would have helped you in your demonstrated maneuver, as your weight and leverage would have probably given the same results.
I'm sorry for your incident. Many people work around equipment without appreciating the total scope (and I didn't cover all of that here); I've seen death from falling 8'
at a construction site, slip and fall in a shower, we even had a firefighter fall 30' during training and it was determined it was due to the slick bottom boots which were worn. I wish you the best of luck and hope your recovery goes well. The fall may have occurred even with a straight ladder but it would have been much less likely; and those straight ladders are far less versatile.
I'm not an expert (still learning about ladders), but here goes:
It is because when you got to the top of the ladder, you leaned your body forward. It caused the joint to suddenly shift, which created a 'kick' within the ladder. The 'kick' then transferred to the bottom feet, initiating the slide.
If you hadn't leaned your body forward at the top of the ladder, the joint would probably not have shifted at all. Or if did shift, the shift would have been gentler, with very little 'kick'.
Ladders scare me. My friend has a large garage, with an upper loft. He has an extension ladder to get up there. (A regular extension ladder, not a 'Little Giant'.) Once when I went up, I felt the bottom of the ladder skid out a few inches. Now that I've seen your video, I conclude I was leaning forward on the ladder at the top. (I was leaning forward at the top when I was trying to step off onto the loft floor.)
Point well taken. My extension ladder has an aluminum foot with a rough flat side and a cleat than can be flipped to dig in to ground. The end of your ladder looks like a rounded plastic, which could slip under those conditions. I was a firefighter for 27 years and do house maintenance. If you are working alone, putting a wooden cleat down on a deck, driveway or hard surface is a good idea even with standard ladders. If working with someone, the person on the ground should put their feet at the bottom of each rail and hold the rail while you transition to and from the roof. I will consider putting a rough cleat on the bottom end of my 17 ft little giant. Better to mar the deck a little than to bounce off of it.
Are the wheels supposed to be in the air? I used a similar 🪜 like that but Home Depot brand. No issues. Never bought a little giant.
Yes
I've shared this on FB, thanks for the warning and I think you'll be compensated, hopefully enough. This clearly is a ladder people need to avoid. ATB
Thanks for sharing. I had another attorney look at the case, and he said it was a cut and dried case. Then he just sat on my paperwork for over a year and didn't do anything. So I asked for my file back and then released the video to help others
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Thanks for posting this. It's a good safety tip for people new to multi-purpose ladders.
Glad it was helpful!
75.5 degrees? Why don't they glue a level to the side of it if they want that specific angle. And why that angle??? Any ladder would do that. He doesn't know how to use a ladder.
Little Giant ladder says 75.5 degrees. It's not my number. It's the joint that pops back over center that snaps the legs back. If the joint was tight, there would be no over the center break over. A regular ladder will not do that.
@@mowerdog Yes, it's their number, but who uses a phone to get the exact angle? It's ridiculous. If it's that critical, they should use a visual aid.
I don't have one in front of me, but I'm gonna trust you that the extension was far enough away from the deck. It looks, from your video, that the legs are not fully seated because of the extension legs are touching the deck too. Probably an illusion from my perspective.
I have to say that your wife is so sweet to follow your directions and try not to get in the way.
Remember that all ladders are dangerous and will kill you at a moment's inattention. Good luck and stay safe.
@alext8828 The extention rails of the ladder are around and inch shorter than the main legs. You can see it in the video if you focus on that area. The ladder shows two ways to set it at the propper angle. One is to set it at 75° (not 75.5 °) I was wrong there. The only way to accurately set it at 75° was my phone app. The other way they show is to stand straight up with your toes touching the ladder feet and putting your arms strait out and grabbing the ladder. I used my phone because it's the most accurate method they suggest. Then they say to extend it approximately 3ft about the abject you're laying the ladder on. You can see in the video that the ladder was set up exactly how they wanted. I've been on extension ladders for 40 years as a remodeling contractor without one incident. When it happened I was dumbfounded because I couldn't initially see anything I did or wrong or anything broke on the ladder. One day the light went off in my head and I knew what the issue was. I recreated the incident on my deck and it happened on the first take. It's a flaw.
I guess I am wondering why you didn't set up the A frame and extend the ladder on each side to the height of your roof?
Can you provide the excact model of that little giant ladder please.
I fell in February on a Gorilla Ladder (multi-position) leaned. I never climbed over the top of mine because it was leaning on an interior wall but it still had the feet slide backwards…until the entire ladder fell from the wall side with me 15ft up. The ‘feet’ of my ladder are ROUNDED HARD plastic. Not even slanted at all and no grip. Makes no sense! I am now disabled and never will be the same. I am still looking for a lawyer who takes product liability cases. They all want Personal Injury ones (to sue insurance companies). I am sure my current med bills meet your attorneys 300k minimum so hopefully I can get someone to help me soon. I am in Michigan.
@@gsd2590 I'm sorry sorry about your accident. I hope you find a good lawyer. If you do, please give me the info.
How about using a little giant wingspan for added safety ?
I hope you get back to metal detecting. I really liked your hunts. Etrac is pretty heavy and I think you have a Manticore now however I find the Deus 2 very light and easy on my arm.
I almost went with the D2. But like minelab tones
I’ve used ladders most of my career.. 25+yrs. Fk these ladders! My asshole boss wanted me to use one of these next to power lines and all the way extended with a single run above the gutter.. mind you I’m 230lbs and with the compressor or bag of tools 300+ fk that!!!!! All over the place.. no grip on the feet..bouncing as hell..I’ll stick with a regular extension ladder!! 🖕🏻🫵🏻 boss man!
Exactly. I've never had an issue with a regular extension ladder in my 35 years of contracting. Don't risk your life!
Get well.
My surgery was around 2 years ago. I'm as good as I'm going to get. My shoulder pops and is sore constantly though. But I'm alive.
Is your deck too high..? lol.. It's a good thing you weren't hurt badly..
You have it way too steep
Stay off that death trap.
I haven't used it since the accident 2.5 years ago. I just kept the ladder for any lawsuit.
This is all on you bud. You’re using the ladder all wrong 🤣🤣 I’m sure they would win hands down though. Probably said that just to get you to shut up about it. I’m sorry you got hurt though. That sucks. Watch a video on proper way to use. I have an Alta-1 little giant. Awesome ladder.
I'm afraid that is your flaw and not the little giant. Stop leaning over the ladder. Are you crazy.
Use a spotter!
Lol