The Air Force uses these things every day to work on aircraft. I've used them every day for 25 years working on A-10's and KC-135's. We beat the hell out of them, but I never saw one break. Great ladders.
For a moment I thought this was me commenting lol. I was a crew chief too, on E3s and KC10s, and we even had a pro supe run over one of these and the ladder was fine. One thing to note, the new ones are made in China. The old ones made in USA, although the last American made ones came with the wheels, and the gutter protector and the uneven ground foot extension. Cool to have. I just scored a used one for 250 with all the accessories and the guy used it once. It brought back a lot of memories...In fact, story time. After 911 I kind of developed a fear of heights. And after falling from a JLG replacing a beacon on the vertical stab (I think its the exact same like the 135), wind blew me over the side and I was dangling from my harness. Fast forward 20 years, home, I get very shaky going up ladders (Werners, nice, decent, one is fiber glass). I used this today first time, and no fear, went up, sat on it like I used to when doing engine 1 and 4 oil and I washed away all the new stuff, brought me back to doing a 3A inspection lol.
Yeah, that technique is awesome. I have to try it. So much more efficient than how the manufacturer wants you to do it, laying it on ground extending all the way out, then walking up, which means you have to have a lot of room perpendicular to a a non-moveable object to brace the base of the ladder against as you walk it up. Many times, you won't have 22ft (or whatever) from the wall you need to go up.
I have one of the first ever made it even has Wing Manftg on it hence inventor Hal Wing. Mine is the taller version which goes fully extended to 26'. It's a much heavier material than the new ones but is virtually indestructible. I love mine and have a leg leveler for the side to help on uneven surface. Best ladder I've ever owned or used.
Great Demonstration. I had one exactly like your older one. I could carry it in my car. I have a brand new bracket and case that you referred to. I am not going to use it so the bracket is yours if you want it. Thanks!
That would be great! Thanks Walt! I've done some sketchy ladder setups in my career and this ladder helps me feel more confident about ladder placement. I didn't have it with me when I did this video but I have a leg extension so if I'm on a hill I can extend a leg and not have to worry about leaning
I have had the 17ft old style for maybe 10 years now. Mine does have the old rungs but it also has wheels and an attachment at the top for a paint tray that came with it. I use it all the time. Great ladder! Thanks for the comparison. Bummer the new ones are mostly China.
Have that ladder for over 20 years and sold off 4 other ladders at the time. Used it all time ; the most stable at full extension and the 375 waight limit makes it easy to work at 15 to 20 feet off the ground. Peace of mind Just bought the step stool and it’s solid as a rock. I now slot of copy cats out their now but nothing like the original. My health not worth to save a couple of dollars
I had the even OLDER style, where instead of pushing the apex latch, they PULLED out, and were quite finicky. Can't tell you how many times I pinched my fingers, or risked catching them between rungs in extension mode! They were heavy duty steel, not aluminum everywhere like the new(er) ones. Have you noticed the weight difference?
my old one has the pull out latches. The new version with the push latches is way nicer though. I think both mine are aluminum though. I did weigh them both in this video at 10:31
Yes 100%! If your ladder is long enough, I've used mine fully extended many times and its very strong. Just make sure you don't have the ladder too steep or you could fall backwards!
It's tricky to figure out but it can be done. I extend one end all the way and put that end up then extend the lower half all the way. You could also try doing it on the ground and then standing the ladder up after
@@BorsellinoHomeServices Horsing the thing around I finally got it extended as high as I needed to. No fun being that high on a ladder! At least, I know how to operate the ladder now.
Yeah the original ladder works like that but the new one I think needs the bracket. Luckily a client of mine had one laying around and he gave it to me!
I have the older model here, and using it fully extended in straight mode is a pain. So I bought myself a telescopic ladder to use as an extension ladder, much easier and more compact (but not as tall).
@@BorsellinoHomeServices - some people had problems with some models. I have the Xtend and Climb brand, and each rung has to be extended individually and that allows for the rung to be properly latched. And each rung has to be released with a finger latch on each side, so it doesn’t just collapse unless too much weight or the latches weren’t fully set. There are some brands where I read all rungs can be released at once - that would be one I would avoid.
In the old manual the way you had is how they said to use the old ones. I dont think its all that great but if you shake it to settle it down until it wont budge, its fine. Some people didnt settle it, and fell. Most people dont use that feature anyways. The new ones I saw have a recall for the ratchet. I tend to trust the old steel pin. That wont fail lol. I am upset with them as a company, for offshoring, and the price still being high. Its why I scoured ebay, craigslist and found one in new condition for a steal.
You mean the whole splitting it apart thing?? A client of mine saw this video and had the thing lying around and gave it to me! I forgot about it! I should make a video showing it.
@@BorsellinoHomeServices Sure. Id watch it. I do love these ladders. After 911 I developed a fear of heights, but I got on this ladder, and I felt solid, like on stairs (in fact, I came down facing away, not recommended but it was solid, and those rungs are wide and nice). Its a great ladder, and very clever how it was made. I have the gutter cleaner attachment and the leg leveler, the old version, which is ok...could have used a pin in it, but I dont do that much garden stuff. I got it for inside the garage and working on bigger vehicles, trucks, buses etc
AS FOR PEOPLE WONDERING USING IT AS A SCAFFOLD TAKING IT APART FOR THE OLD STYLE HE HAD IT RIGHT!! But there is one little difference that makes it stable. You don't have to use it but it is the tool platform that makes it stable Check out the video. th-cam.com/video/2OhricCX38o/w-d-xo.html AND HERE IS THE ORIGINAL VIDEO FROM WHEN THEY CAME OUT. THIS SHOWS THAT HE HAD IT EXACTLY RIGHT IN THE VIDEO WITHOUT HAVING TO LOCK ANYTHING.. GO ABOUT 4 MINUTES IN.. th-cam.com/video/A0mph8MJn0w/w-d-xo.html
I do actually own one of those and its awesome! I totally forgot to include it in this review so maybe I'll make a new video for that! It works great though. Can clamp onto any leg, although with the new version that has the wheels it probably won't work on that side. works great though
I just bought a old one locally, always wanted 1 but i found this for cheap.. and now i can get rid of my old 6 ft ladder and my 4 ft step ladder and the little giant will collapse down to 4t or so and now takes less space then my other 2 ladders.. and it can be made to any configuration too.. The new one i like for the push knobs instead of pulling the metal rings out to extend the legs which makes it easier but everything else is the same except for the new ladder is like 3lbs lighter.. but if i was going to use my ladder every day i prolly get the new one.. but i use the ladder now and again so the pulling out the metal rings is no problem.. just put wd40 to keep it smooth and your good to go without any resistance.
I agree, very scary to use as full extension, they flex and shake a lot where they connect. Also steps are very narrow and painfull on your feet while standing for long periods.
Can anyone tell me how high the ladder can go if you’re using it at that 90° angle for example the same angle if you were using it on stairs? I have smoke detectors that are extremely hard to get to and I would feel more comfortable or safe if I could put the ladder up against a wall for support
@@BorsellinoHomeServices I have vaulted ceilings and they decided to put the smoke detector at the highest part unbelievable I don’t know if 7 feet will do I already have a ladder that’s 8 feet but I hate that ladder it’s so awkward and heavy
An easier way to weigh the ladders or most other odd size items that you're able to hold yourself is to stand on the scale and hold the object. Read the weight. Then weigh only yourself and subtract your weight from the first recorded weight. Good video.
@@BorsellinoHomeServices No worries. I liked the video. By the way, do you have an opinion on the Little Giant MegaLite 17' 1A (300lb capacity) ladder? I need a ladder to paint the exterior of a house. Is it better to get the 22' ladder? I mention the 17' ladder only because today is the last day that Costco has it on sale for $120. However, if a 22' ladder is more suitable then a sale on a smaller ladder is irrelevant. I estimate that the highest point on the side of the house is 25'.
@@RedondoBeach2 Sorry I didn't see this right away. It really depends how high you need to go. Although the ladder is a certain lenght, when you put it on an angle it will drop the total height by a foot or two and you can't really work off the top few rungs... so you just need whatever ladder is basically going to make it all the way to the peak... so in this case the 22 will still be a little short for the 25' side
@@BorsellinoHomeServices The M22 is still made in the USA. Most of their models are now made in China. Little Giant has recently started displaying the country of origin on their website. I have an almost 20 year-old M22. I used it daily for 15 years. If I were buying today, I would buy the same. They seem to last near forever, just replace the feet when they get hard and slippery.
@@tomthompson7400 quick google search looks like they are only sold in ireland? im in the US. does Werner make a similar ladder. The waku looks identical to the little giant though
@@BorsellinoHomeServices Waku invented the concept , when the patent ran out they got very copied by a lot of folk , the original little giant was made in the usa , like a lot of things they are now made down to a price , rather than up to a standard , Waku were available all over the place , from my understanding Zarges have taken over the brand , in the entertainment industry no one asks '' wheres the ladder'' its usually wheres the Zarges . Yep they are expensive but a fall from a ladder could put you out of action for months , or worse , Im a self employed tech , I couldnt stand being out of action for months , and anything worse would get very serious . Im ladder shopping at the moment and did think about LG , but on reflection Ill buy another set of Waku. But Im not sure about where the Fiberglas ladders are made ,,, maybe an alternative , although Ive never owned a set of fiber glass ladders before.
@@tomthompson7400 Wow thats cool thanks for sharing! I had no idea that Waku was the original and Zarges are like the best ladders. Never even heard of either of them.
The Air Force uses these things every day to work on aircraft. I've used them every day for 25 years working on A-10's and KC-135's. We beat the hell out of them, but I never saw one break. Great ladders.
They really are amazing!!
Chris, what A-10 units were you assigned to and what dates?
For a moment I thought this was me commenting lol. I was a crew chief too, on E3s and KC10s, and we even had a pro supe run over one of these and the ladder was fine. One thing to note, the new ones are made in China. The old ones made in USA, although the last American made ones came with the wheels, and the gutter protector and the uneven ground foot extension. Cool to have. I just scored a used one for 250 with all the accessories and the guy used it once. It brought back a lot of memories...In fact, story time.
After 911 I kind of developed a fear of heights. And after falling from a JLG replacing a beacon on the vertical stab (I think its the exact same like the 135), wind blew me over the side and I was dangling from my harness. Fast forward 20 years, home, I get very shaky going up ladders (Werners, nice, decent, one is fiber glass).
I used this today first time, and no fear, went up, sat on it like I used to when doing engine 1 and 4 oil and I washed away all the new stuff, brought me back to doing a 3A inspection lol.
No more. Now they are CHINESE and the military uses Warner Made in USA ladders.
Great video man, you made standing/extending the ladder to its full length look so easy
Thanks. I've been using little giants for a really long time so I've got the hang of it by now 😀
Yeah, that technique is awesome. I have to try it. So much more efficient than how the manufacturer wants you to do it, laying it on ground extending all the way out, then walking up, which means you have to have a lot of room perpendicular to a a non-moveable object to brace the base of the ladder against as you walk it up. Many times, you won't have 22ft (or whatever) from the wall you need to go up.
I just bought one for my sister and I to use to paint my shutters. Thanks for the demo!!!
I hope you enjoy it!
I have one of the first ever made it even has Wing Manftg on it hence inventor Hal Wing. Mine is the taller version which goes fully extended to 26'. It's a much heavier material than the new ones but is virtually indestructible. I love mine and have a leg leveler for the side to help on uneven surface. Best ladder I've ever owned or used.
i've got a leg leveler too. It's pretty sweet!!! Sounds like you have a sweet piece of history though!
Great Demonstration. I had one exactly like your older one. I could carry it in my car. I have a brand new bracket and case that you referred to. I am not going to use it so the bracket is yours if you want it. Thanks!
That would be great! Thanks Walt! I've done some sketchy ladder setups in my career and this ladder helps me feel more confident about ladder placement. I didn't have it with me when I did this video but I have a leg extension so if I'm on a hill I can extend a leg and not have to worry about leaning
Geeezzz.......my Little Giant has a serial number 00162, I'm thinking I may have the test pilot version. Made by Wing and I love it!
wow that's a low number!!!
I have had the 17ft old style for maybe 10 years now. Mine does have the old rungs but it also has wheels and an attachment at the top for a paint tray that came with it. I use it all the time. Great ladder! Thanks for the comparison. Bummer the new ones are mostly China.
Oh Yeah! I have a couple of those. I guess I forgot to mention them in the video!
Where are the old ones made somewhere else? I hate buying anything from China
Buy an old USA made one. Wing is now just an importer of CHINESE-made Little Giant ladders.
Have that ladder for over 20 years and sold off 4 other ladders at the time. Used it all time ; the most stable at full extension and the 375 waight limit makes it easy to work at 15 to 20 feet off the ground. Peace of mind
Just bought the step stool and it’s solid as a rock. I now slot of copy cats out their now but nothing like the original. My health not worth to save a couple of dollars
Awesome! I love my little giant ladders! I've got one that's the next size down from this one for smaller jobs
Thanks for the review
No problem! Thanks for watching and leaving a comment!!!
Is the new one worth getting over the old? Which do you recommend?
Old style u did right
No need for extra bracket
right on
only if you want a suicide scaffold
I had the even OLDER style, where instead of pushing the apex latch, they PULLED out, and were quite finicky. Can't tell you how many times I pinched my fingers, or risked catching them between rungs in extension mode! They were heavy duty steel, not aluminum everywhere like the new(er) ones. Have you noticed the weight difference?
my old one has the pull out latches. The new version with the push latches is way nicer though. I think both mine are aluminum though. I did weigh them both in this video at 10:31
The old one's rungs don't fail. But the plastic locks on new ones suck. Three of the four have broken on mine and makes it a pain to use
they don't make anything like they used to.........
Can the knuckle lock at 90 degrees ?
When you had both ladders in A frame mode at 5:54, why was the older model much taller than the new one?
Did you not extend the new one all the way?
optical illusion. the one ladder is closer to the camera so it looks taller. just a perspective thing. they are the same size ladder
Thank you for the review. Excellent info. Would you trust going full extension to reach the second story roof of a house?
Yes 100%! If your ladder is long enough, I've used mine fully extended many times and its very strong. Just make sure you don't have the ladder too steep or you could fall backwards!
Good job. I wanted to see how to extend my 22 footer up to my roof. Still looks like a two person job to me. Thanks!
I just went out and gave it a try. Not completely up, but close. I'll call this my Ladder Exercise until I can get it fully extended.
It's tricky to figure out but it can be done. I extend one end all the way and put that end up then extend the lower half all the way. You could also try doing it on the ground and then standing the ladder up after
@@BorsellinoHomeServices Horsing the thing around I finally got it extended as high as I needed to. No fun being that high on a ladder! At least, I know how to operate the ladder now.
@@BorsellinoHomeServices good technique, even if not mfr approved. I'll have to try it.
The way you did the "saw horse" demo is the way the advertised the originals, they did not have the bracket!
Yeah the original ladder works like that but the new one I think needs the bracket. Luckily a client of mine had one laying around and he gave it to me!
@@BorsellinoHomeServices They also use the accessory step to keep the sawhorses in the "A" shape!
any tricks to fix a louisebar stabilizer on this ... i tried to do it but the plastic on each steps was in the way... any tips for this?
I have the older model here, and using it fully extended in straight mode is a pain. So I bought myself a telescopic ladder to use as an extension ladder, much easier and more compact (but not as tall).
are those sturdy? they seem like there's so many joints I don't think I'd trust them
@@BorsellinoHomeServices - some people had problems with some models. I have the Xtend and Climb brand, and each rung has to be extended individually and that allows for the rung to be properly latched. And each rung has to be released with a finger latch on each side, so it doesn’t just collapse unless too much weight or the latches weren’t fully set.
There are some brands where I read all rungs can be released at once - that would be one I would avoid.
how tall are you? just want to get an idea of how high it goes as a step ladder goes.
5'9 ish
Good video thank you
Thanks for letting me know you liked it!!!
In the old manual the way you had is how they said to use the old ones. I dont think its all that great but if you shake it to settle it down until it wont budge, its fine. Some people didnt settle it, and fell. Most people dont use that feature anyways.
The new ones I saw have a recall for the ratchet. I tend to trust the old steel pin. That wont fail lol.
I am upset with them as a company, for offshoring, and the price still being high. Its why I scoured ebay, craigslist and found one in new condition for a steal.
You mean the whole splitting it apart thing?? A client of mine saw this video and had the thing lying around and gave it to me! I forgot about it! I should make a video showing it.
@@BorsellinoHomeServices Sure. Id watch it. I do love these ladders. After 911 I developed a fear of heights, but I got on this ladder, and I felt solid, like on stairs (in fact, I came down facing away, not recommended but it was solid, and those rungs are wide and nice). Its a great ladder, and very clever how it was made. I have the gutter cleaner attachment and the leg leveler, the old version, which is ok...could have used a pin in it, but I dont do that much garden stuff. I got it for inside the garage and working on bigger vehicles, trucks, buses etc
AS FOR PEOPLE WONDERING USING IT AS A SCAFFOLD TAKING IT APART FOR THE OLD STYLE HE HAD IT RIGHT!! But there is one little difference that makes it stable. You don't have to use it but it is the tool platform that makes it stable Check out the video.
th-cam.com/video/2OhricCX38o/w-d-xo.html
AND HERE IS THE ORIGINAL VIDEO FROM WHEN THEY CAME OUT. THIS SHOWS THAT HE HAD IT EXACTLY RIGHT IN THE VIDEO WITHOUT HAVING TO LOCK ANYTHING..
GO ABOUT 4 MINUTES IN..
th-cam.com/video/A0mph8MJn0w/w-d-xo.html
Thanks. I couldn't get it into an a frame (old model).
hope that helped!
Excellent Video
hey thanks!
And what about the feature for use on uneven ground?
I do actually own one of those and its awesome! I totally forgot to include it in this review so maybe I'll make a new video for that! It works great though. Can clamp onto any leg, although with the new version that has the wheels it probably won't work on that side. works great though
I just bought a old one locally, always wanted 1 but i found this for cheap.. and now i can get rid of my old 6 ft ladder and my 4 ft step ladder and the little giant will collapse down to 4t or so and now takes less space then my other 2 ladders.. and it can be made to any configuration too.. The new one i like for the push knobs instead of pulling the metal rings out to extend the legs which makes it easier but everything else is the same except for the new ladder is like 3lbs lighter.. but if i was going to use my ladder every day i prolly get the new one.. but i use the ladder now and again so the pulling out the metal rings is no problem.. just put wd40 to keep it smooth and your good to go without any resistance.
they are super handy for sure!
Good video ✌
Thanks for letting me know!!!
Thanks nice video
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These make good stable step ladders but I don't like using them as an extended ladder. They flex way too much.
yeah, it works in a pinch but i also prefer a real extension ladder
I agree, very scary to use as full extension, they flex and shake a lot where they connect. Also steps are very narrow and painfull on your feet while standing for long periods.
Can anyone tell me how high the ladder can go if you’re using it at that 90° angle for example the same angle if you were using it on stairs?
I have smoke detectors that are extremely hard to get to and I would feel more comfortable or safe if I could put the ladder up against a wall for support
Depends on which size ladder you have. It is just shy of the max height in A-frame mode. This one is probably around 7 feet if i had to guess
@@BorsellinoHomeServices I have vaulted ceilings and they decided to put the smoke detector at the highest part unbelievable I don’t know if 7 feet will do I already have a ladder that’s 8 feet but I hate that ladder it’s so awkward and heavy
I have the old one. It’s great. But HEAVY. But the new one is only a few lbs lighter?!
barely noticeable difference but i like the wheels!
An easier way to weigh the ladders or most other odd size items that you're able to hold yourself is to stand on the scale and hold the object. Read the weight. Then weigh only yourself and subtract your weight from the first recorded weight. Good video.
LOL You are totally right but I somehow managed to do it this way! 😀😂
@@BorsellinoHomeServices No worries. I liked the video. By the way, do you have an opinion on the Little Giant MegaLite 17' 1A (300lb capacity) ladder? I need a ladder to paint the exterior of a house. Is it better to get the 22' ladder? I mention the 17' ladder only because today is the last day that Costco has it on sale for $120. However, if a 22' ladder is more suitable then a sale on a smaller ladder is irrelevant. I estimate that the highest point on the side of the house is 25'.
@@RedondoBeach2 Sorry I didn't see this right away. It really depends how high you need to go. Although the ladder is a certain lenght, when you put it on an angle it will drop the total height by a foot or two and you can't really work off the top few rungs... so you just need whatever ladder is basically going to make it all the way to the peak... so in this case the 22 will still be a little short for the 25' side
His way was much simpler
What I don't like: pointy narrow steps; hurt my feet. Als, heavy. But I'm a 59-year-old woman who is out of shape. Other than that, it's all good.
oh yeah totally. working all day on a ladder is brutal
Looks like the older one is made in the USA, New ones made in China. Id go the old one if i could find one second hand and save a few $$
Wow, I didn't realize that but you are correct!!!
@@BorsellinoHomeServices The M22 is still made in the USA. Most of their models are now made in China. Little Giant has recently started displaying the country of origin on their website. I have an almost 20 year-old M22. I used it daily for 15 years. If I were buying today, I would buy the same. They seem to last near forever, just replace the feet when they get hard and slippery.
Feet! My foot!
YEAH! Watch your toes!!!
Old ladder and new bridge part do not fit.
gotcha
Thank you for this. The company's tutorial is too fast and explains nothing.
Thanks for the feedback! Actually Little Giant even commented on my video!!! I'm glad you found it helpful!
Too heavy
yes they are heavy, but lighter than a fiberglass extension ladder and has many more uses
made in china , same things available with how many different stickers on it , and sold as how many brands ,,,, nope , Im out.
okay! what alternatives do you prefer for a multi-ladder?
@@BorsellinoHomeServices Waku .... next question please? Made in Germany .
@@tomthompson7400 quick google search looks like they are only sold in ireland? im in the US. does Werner make a similar ladder. The waku looks identical to the little giant though
@@BorsellinoHomeServices Waku invented the concept , when the patent ran out they got very copied by a lot of folk , the original little giant was made in the usa , like a lot of things they are now made down to a price , rather than up to a standard , Waku were available all over the place , from my understanding Zarges have taken over the brand , in the entertainment industry no one asks '' wheres the ladder'' its usually wheres the Zarges . Yep they are expensive but a fall from a ladder could put you out of action for months , or worse , Im a self employed tech , I couldnt stand being out of action for months , and anything worse would get very serious . Im ladder shopping at the moment and did think about LG , but on reflection Ill buy another set of Waku. But Im not sure about where the Fiberglas ladders are made ,,, maybe an alternative , although Ive never owned a set of fiber glass ladders before.
@@tomthompson7400 Wow thats cool thanks for sharing! I had no idea that Waku was the original and Zarges are like the best ladders. Never even heard of either of them.