Bare Knuckle Fighter Dies - Doctor Reacts to Justin Thornton Death and Safety of the Sport
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- Justin Thornton passed away this week at the age of 38 after sustaining a spinal cord injury and paralysis from a recent Bare Knuckle Boxing fight. In this video we'll discuss the safety of the sport, what happened, and whether or not bare knuckle boxing is too dangerous to be allowed.
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Is Bare Knuckle Fighting too dangerous? What changes should be made?
Nothing should or can be changed as tragic as the death is
He had no business fighting, 38 with a losing record. He was used as a test dummy
Question, would neck training help mitigate such falls when coupled with the neurological test you Pxd?
No.
I think your analysis is sound. I also agree that we need more data regarding incidence of certain injuries across bare knuckle vs padded since conventional wisdom is that incidence of brain injury is lower in bare knuckle. You simple cannot throw repeated, full power punches to someone's head without high risk of destroying your hand (no padding), so concussions and such should be less common.
Fight shouldn't have happened, he had a record of 6-18 MMA and 0-1 boxing and was taking on a guy who 11-1 in MMA, 3-0 boxing.
Rest in peace.
Regardless of record. He got hit and landed awkwardly...it's very unlucky and can happen to anyone
@@thirstybonsai1888 True but this was the man’s 6th KO/TKO loss in a row I believe. That definitely should’ve been taken into account from a matchmaking perspective
@@igotthis33 yeah but my point still stands. He could have. 50-0 record..means nothing in this situation
@@thirstybonsai1888 your one of them beta type dudes who wanna be right..the statement is 100% acurate..just like holyfield shouldn't have been allowed to...his very poor record came with time (age) and damage...lack of skill losses and KOs and age increase probability of dying.
@@thirstybonsai1888 you're simply failing to comprehend the counterpoint of incompetent matchmaking and how it effects the likelihood of this person being put in a compromised situation, being heavily outclassed in the fight
R.I.P Justin Thornton
HeS not your uncle
R.I.P justin thornton
@@marcoscc8870 what?💀
This people got a weird sense of humor awkward AF
God bless
A common misconception is that gloves are designed to protect opponents, but they are actually designed to limit broken hands & cuts to knuckles from teeth. Thornton died from an awkward fall, not increased damage from lack of gloves. The true cause of this is unfortunate incident is from horrific match making, same thing happened in boxing with former UFC fighter Tim Hague. You cannot put guys with losing records/multiple KO losses within a 12 month period in there with a undefeated fighter. The commissions who sanction these bouts should be held accountable.
He actually died from pneumonia not injuries from the fight
@@attackscorpion5323 It's important to note that Justin was partially paralyzed and his condition definitely didn't help him fight off pneumonia. I don't want to say it's a freak occurrence cause I have seen fighters fall a similar way, but there's nothing you can do in reaction to this.
@@attackscorpion5323 his life was ruined regardless and his injuries didnt help.
I saw someone get 4 teeth knocked out with one punch in a bare knuckle fight, it’s way more dangerous
@@MarmaladeJohnson Anthony smith got a broken nose, a broken orbital and two teeth knocked out against Glover teixeira a few months ago. Josue Vargas got both his front teeth knocked out last year with boxing gloves. Gloves add more mass to your fist thus increasing the force of the blow.
It’s not BKFC or MMA. It’s taking older men with a lot of previous KOs and putting them in the ring. It just sounds like a horrible accident since he landed on his head.
Agreed, could have happened in boxing, or a clash of heads in wrestling, or any other combat sport
This fight was also a rematch from a prior MMA bout which the same ending occurred. I believe it is up to the athletic commissions to stop these bouts from occurring
Sherlockkk, i dont need this
This guy didn't even looked like he belonged in there. RIP
It has nothing to do with bkf as fsr as I know.
If you can die from a punch you can die from a knee or elbow. And I've heard bk people don't throw as absolutely hard as possible because of their knuckles or hands being damaged. Not sure if that's true, but it is certainly true that a flying knee from yoel Romero is more dangerous than anything that's going to happen in bk
This dude was 38 YEARS OLD .. HIS RECORD IN MMA, WAS 6 WINS AND 18 LOSSES with 11 of those being KO/TKO.. he should have never been in the ring
Yea it’s disgusting the bkfc doesn’t give a fuck they just want fighters
On top of that. His opponent was 11-1 I believe. Lopsided fight. Who ever put this matchup needs to be fired.
Also his opponent had like 30 lbs on him. It was a catch weight fight. I saw them stand across from each other in the ring and I immediately knew Thornton was gonna get mauled. He should've never been there or at least fought someone of the same skill.
He wasn’t forced into it tho
He needed to feed his family and this is what he does he’s not passing up a pay day
Imagine how horrible his opponent must feel. Damn.
If I was him, I would finish fighting after that
His happy 😊
@@pauiwaiker3329
Happy his 😊
He probably feels real tough
Probably makes jokes with his friends: killer here! I koed a man to a land where no coming back
Most bareknuckle fighters couldn't care less if their opponents die or not
Glad this got brought up. Also, a lot of states wouldn't have commissioned this fight based solely on the fighters record, not to mention he'd been knocked out COLD in like 2 of his last 4 fights. I think the Commission should be held responsible here, not the promotion
Agreed, where is the commission
Who made the fight? Was it not the organisation?
No. The organization made the match. They absolutely bear responsibility for even setting up this mismatch. And the commission bears responsibility for approving it. This fight should've never even been considered.
@@TheAntManChannel the athletic commission of the state it took place in had to approve that the competition would be safe and both athletes were capable
@@nickkelly3199 unbelievable
That fall, itself, could happen in ANY sport.
You're fucking kidding right?
@@guavaburst your kidding right😂
@@guavaburst you could literally trip wrong while running and fall the same.
@@guavaburst Yea it's only possible to fall on your head in mma. Smart guy you are..... Not
It could happen even if your not in a sport. It's tragic 😥.
I heard that this guy was cleared to fight despite having a pre-existing spinal injury. Whoever is in charge of clearing these fighters is gonna be in trouble.
Wow
The sport, like all combat sports, has a chance of death associated. It’s the matchmaking that needs looked into not the sport. These 2 should not have been paired up with the extreme gap in skills. It happened in Canada last month to a young boxer. It’s a matchmaking problem that needs to be looked into before this continues happening.
FACT is that these men had already Fought before in the past & the man that Died ( RIP & bless his Soul) He wanted & accepted the fight and knew the Risks involved! It's still Sad to see & a Tragic Accident, but it was a Fluke accident none the less.
Why i strongly advocate for these combat sports to follow rankings
Its gonna happen in combat sports. When you have 2 dudes swinging at each other someone is gonna die occasionally.
It is dumb, the US needs elite professional kickboxing. This is a sideshow that is just watched for blood.. It is everything mma was accused of being in its beginning..
@@arcajeth626 Clearly you have NO experience in this field
R.I.P.🕊
The fault here lies in the matchmaking. A guys who’s been ko’d/tko’d 11 times in mma getting a dangerous opponent who’s intended to finish him is something that needs to stop.
Sure, but this type of fall could happen to anyone. If anything, the legal requirements for rings should be addressed. Maybe they are more padded or something. You really can't stop the possibility of a fall like this, so it's a matter of how to stop the negative impact when it does happen.
This comment is just beyond dumb, this type of matchmaking happens in regular boxing all the time.
@@dansheehan1584 Yeah, and that is why deaths in boxing are more common than in any other combat sports.
@@dansheehan1584 yeah, and we see a lot of deaths in boxing all the time
You can't really control how you fall after being knocked out. This could happen in any MMA arena.
Or boxing. Or basketball. Or football. Or your own staircase...
@@TheRedAnvil40 Who knocks you out in your own staircase?
@@meisterproper8304 Some old people have poor balance. They can easily fall on a staircase.
Splainin' much??
@@TheRedAnvil40 Baseball, football, waling on stairs, driving a vehicle, etc. are completely different from a sport in which the two combatant's one and only purpose is to beat the shit out of the other, or choke him/her out, as hard as possible, ASAP...
When a baseball flies at a person standing near by, or even at a player, and hits him in the head, causing traumatic damage (which has happened), it is an UN-intentional event, ONE of the dangers of being around a sport where hard, fast ball is played.
But when you punch or kick another MMA person in the head or face or body, and knock them unconscious, it is ONE of the most ideal outcomes.
Your IQ doesn't need to be higher than 75 to know that large distinction.
This, however, is NOT to say people can't or shouldn't be allowed to pursue whatever sports they want or are gifted at. But as others have mentioned, the match-makers, the athletic requirements, & the state officials involved in ORGANIZED sports (from state commissioners to doctors to ringside officials).... there needs to be STANDARDS...
You can't have NY or CA, for example, requiring expensive, extensive medical doctor checking and check ups, including MRI and cognitive reflexes testing, and then Mississippi or Louisiana or W. Virginia saying, "All is welcome and NO MEDICAL DOCTOR examination or any of those stupid red tape bullshits are needed here in the land of the free," ad nauseam.
It's a fuckin organized, professional sport; all organized, professional sports need to have some minimal standardized rules on official as well as athlete ability, capability, and safety...
I really do appreciate that you're knowledgeable in the sports you're covering, not just the medical knowledge. Like for example, how you're pointing out that smaller up-and-coming organisations have a lot of fighters who were let go from bigger orgs.
Honestly, I think it's safe to say that the UFC is incredibly lucky they've avoided anything like this happening in their organization up to this point. It seems pretty inevitable. Solid match-making probably makes it less likely to occur, but it will always remain a possibility.
U could say the same thing for boxing
@@woozy607 Nah, their have been quite a few deaths attributed to boxing, including several boxers who actually died in the ring. Jimmy Doyle, Patrick Day, Maxim Dadashev, Scott Westgarth, Mike Towell, Tim Hague... just to name a few. In fact, there's an entire Wikipedia page with a long list of names of boxers who either died in the ring or shortly after a match.
Wikipedia: "List of deaths due to injuries sustained in boxing"
That’s cus Dana not best for having that stain on his hands
@@woozy607 an average of like 13 boxers dies a year, MMA in general is far less likely to happen because KOs only happen 30% of the time (submissions and decisions taking up the rest of wins) whereas boxing has 50% KO wins. The amount of head trauma that boxers go through, is both incredible and terrible.
The difference is that in boxing when you get concussed and knocked down they pause the action and then allow the fighter to continue.
When a UFC fighter gets concussed and knocked down they must immediately recover and defend or the fight is stopped.
Getting back up a dozen times to keep getting hit in the head is what causes this. Its why amateur leagues have a three knockdown rule. This is a known problem.
After seeing his record it seems like this guy needed someone in his life to pull him aside and have a talk with him along the lines of the talk Joe had with Schaub. RIP.
Incredibly sad for any athlete to die from injuries sustained while competing.
My condolences to his family and friends.
As the saying goes, “it’s not the fall that will kill you, it’s the sudden stop”. This could have happened in any combat sport.
Or even soccer. Ball to the head, awkward fall, done for.
Thank you for taking your time to make this video and get the details. Always a pleasure Doc. Rest in peace Justin Thornton.
Ask any doctor if they think one blow to the head is safer than 200. When you put boxing gloves on you're looking at potentially 200+. This was a freak accident
They both should not be fighting that is like the recent craze of 45+ fighting.
Well done Doc! A balanced, thoughtful and fair summation.
It's kinda crazy to take a peek behind all the work and all the doctors involved with any sport, combat or otherwise. Very tragic but not the first fatality regarding a combat sport, gloves or no.
Great analysis, prayers for his family and friends
Great video, very informative. I appreciate you analyzing this from a professional / medical viewpoint. It may turn out that BK boxing is more "dangerous"- but like you said that evidence isn't really out there and it sounds like most critics are speaking with emotion. RIP to the fighter, but thank you for what i hope turns into a larger conversation around fighter safety..
It's not that it's too dangerous, it's that the proper safety precautions aren't in place with these smaller organizations.
... regardless this same event could happen with the proper safety regulations in place. A fighter can still be punched and knocked out whilst still falling. The thing here is that he landed on his neck. Many ufc fighters fall similar to this its just they don't always land on their necks
@@intendedexpression6609 True but these organizations are very small with little to no regard to safety precautions.
@@samkellogg2805 dude he landed on his neck regardless of the sport that's a fatal fall
@@mikea2410 true but doesn’t negate what I said come on man be smarter
@@mikea2410 referees need to stabilize the neck and fall with the fighter like sittachai Ineiyad did once
God bless you brother fighting for your family!
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With all due respect, fighters Don't usually fall like that. Right on his forehead, unconscious, all his "heavyweight' weight doing damage to his spine. I'm an RN watch your channel a lot, love the content although it's sad sometimes, like this one. Not a major issue but I don't think it was a normal fall. You're awesome
Very tragic. My condolences to his loved ones.
Honestly I dont watch every video because not all the topics interest me as much as others but I will always support the channel because I respect the hell out of dr sutterer. I love the neutral takes on topics and his thorough explanations without over complicating things. Keep it up!
Love your takes. Thank you!!!
I am crushed to hear of this news. Prayers being sent to him, his family, and his friends. Contact sports are dangerous enough, but "Combat Sports" are another level of risk.
Exactly! Why else was Vito Belfort’s match moved to Florida after Holyfield stepped in to replace De La Hoya? How did a Dada 5000 get cleared to fight in what would be his last match ever before dying?
Also, Dominick Reyes had a similar fall after getting KOd in his last fight.
Dada 5000 is actually still alive though was in rough shape after that fight.
Kimbo Slice however did pass away about four months after that Bellator fight, which took place in Houston.
@@coryfusting9294 oh my bad. Still that was a close call for dada 5000 right? Didn’t he almost die? And yeah, I got mixed up about who died: it was Kimbo slice. Was his death ever attributed to the fight? Or just a coincidence.
@@chrisk9613 i think kimbo died of heart attack
As an mma/fight fan thank you for speaking truthfully and without bias regarding the sport of BKF and mma overall
thankx for this info, its the most Ive heard so far
I don’t really follow BKF. This feels like a isolated incident but I can see this happening in any combat sport. Thanks for the explanation Doc!
Ufc hasn't had any series injuries in 20 years...
@@cmbarrineau1 True but this could have happened in any sport. Cyborg took one of the nastiest knee which cracked his skull. Don't think it matters if it's UFC, BKF or boxing imo. Him being a HW didn't help either. All his weight and the angle his head hit the canvas were contributing factors.
@@cmbarrineau1 bispings eye?
RIP Justin! That was horrible prayers to you family and friends!!
Much needed topic for discussion r.I.p justin
I saved this video and was gonna watch it sooner but then life happened for a week. Good video i missed the fall he took in the early reporting of the incident.
A point I’d bring up is that Thorntons injury is practically unavoidable even in a sport with head protection. If an NFL athlete fell in this manner, the damage to the spine and nervous system would still occur with a helmet, since a helmet is designed to take oncoming pressure from a direction, and not for absorbing the pressure of ones own body falling onto itself like we see here. This is one of those injuries that is literally unavoidable, you can only hope it just won’t happen. Truly a saddening incident.
At the start of seeing this I was going to say, looks like this could happen in any sport that allows for a punch to be thrown in this manner, padded or not. A knockout and fall could happen like this in hockey, much less ufc or the other various fighting networks. Glad it seems to be rare, at least.
CTE studies suggest that padding like in football actually gives people a false sense of security and can be just as dangerous. Another thing to keep in mind that gloves in MMA are typically meant to protect the hands not the face. Bareknuckle is less padding but acting like this is any less safe is foolish, especially when we’re talking about a 38 year old Thorton who was was 6-18 with 11 KOs against him. Whomever let this guy fight to begin with should be fired
@@babeyshroom5120 I did say "padded or not", so yeah.
@Yuna🤗 omg no one cares
@@babeyshroom5120 "CTE studies suggest that padding like in football actually gives people a false sense of security and can be just as dangerous"
Perhaps we should insist cars be fitted with 8" spikes instead of airbags in the steering wheels and replace that 'false sense of security' with the fear of death?
"A knockout and fall could happen like this in hockey", players are not getting punched in the head every few seconds. In fact getting hit in the head in ball sports is a rare event let alone being knocked out. That aside, the crucial difference with full contact fighting is that the fighters are actively trying to hurt each other. It is conceivable that something like this could happen in the UFC although it hasnt in the last 25 years, but it has happened in regular boxing (not precisely the same causes) although relatively rarely given the number of years the sport has been running and how many fights there have been. It only took 3 years of BKFC for a death to occur. You would have to fight maybe 9-10 rounds in UFC to get the kind of facial injuries you see from a normal fight in BKFC. The fact that in BKF fists arent padded significantly increases the head jerk which in turn has consequences for the brain and neck. Trying equate BKFC to other other sports in terms of the risks sounds an awful lot like apologetics rather than an honest or genuine analysis.
Great unbiased point of view! I would lean towards trusting his medical viewpoints based on his approach.
I'm really hesitant to new content creators but what you're doing here is awesome. Keep it up mate
Like the doctor said, it's what happens before a fight that makes the difference. Check out Dana White's response to this incident on how UFC tackles this. The level to which fighters are scrutinized, he said some 19 fighters were flagged for life threatening conditions over the years, that means at least 10 lives saved.
I feel like this is not the last death, many more to come. Especially if more professional fighters start developing over the years.
Rest in peace grew up together fought together real warrior miss you already brother
Great vid R.I.P. to the fighter
That fall could have happened in any combat sport
Yeah this is dumb.
this could happen anywhere. The argument and the main point is the volume of this instances within this realm. You wont see many knocked out players fall directly on their necks in other sports even tho it does and can happen. This issue being presented is specifically intensified when its combat sports.
@@intendedexpression6609 That’s why I said combat sport not sport
@@intendedexpression6609 his point was this should not be used as ammunition to say bare knuckle boxing is too dangerous, because it was the fall that hurt him, and knockouts are totally normal in all other combat sports.
@@JoelTGM yeah i understood, but the reality of things is that because it is BARE knuckle fighting exists because of the literally meaning its bare knuckles which increases the chances of fighters getting serious injuries to the head in volume, compared to other combat sports.
Vancouver Grizzlies? That's an old shirt.
Yes you can fall like that in any sport, hell I have fallen like that after some wobbly pops at the watering hole, sometimes it is just your time and no doctor and no rules can ever change the fact that when your number is called it's over.
It’s a new throwback jersey from last season
great video. very informative. thanks
Thank you for the good work
RIP dude
38 years old bare knuckle boxing, bad idea man.
The fall was brutal, I really don't think the fact that they were not wearing gloves matter. The bigger spectacle is why they put a 1 and 11 fighter against a guy with a winning record who already beat him in the past
A good, and nuanced story doctor.
RIP to Mr. Thornton. Also, thank you for putting up a Morant jersey on. As a long-time Grizz fan, I'm ecstatic!
Gloves is more dangerous, power and will to know you’re hand is protected from breaking ( which still happens with gloves) but early UFC’s , prove bare hands are safer , hands break plus knuckles cut , stops way more fights , so gloves are more fan friendly , but more dangerous
Well, boxing is statistically one of the most dangerous sports, but being bareknuckle does anecdotally make it "safer" in that you can't hit as hard bare knuckle, it's just the knuckles twist skin so much that you get alot of cuts and tears. There's absolutely no evidence that it's safer, but seems to be a very common theme that they don't punch quite as hard
Bruh a bare knuckle sends much more force through someone's face than a boxing glove. Meaning the punches a harder not softer
I agree with you.
Bare knuckle boxing might be safer.
Yes, you can't go as wild with punches as extremely easy to break your metacarpal bones in your hand via connecting with the forehead.
Also, I'd imagine (though I don't know) that bare knuckle fights would end sooner via the opening up of cuts and facial wounds that may stop the fight sooner.
Ironically padding would stop the cuts forming but still allow damage to the brain.
I think the cost/benefit analysis with bareknuckle is bareknuckle is more facial scaring and more damage broken bones to the hand but probably overall healthier to the brain compared to regular boxing.
@@krazy-kavman59 bruh, have you ever punched anything without a boxing glove compared to with?
People don't hit as hard due to the increased risk of breaking your hand. KOs and brain issues went up after gloves were introduced due to being allowed to hit harder
@@joe94c every boxer ever will tell you it’s about 3 knockout punches with gloves on for every single bare knuckle blow that would’ve dropped someone. Now maybe all these guys that are professional know less than you and are lying, but I’ll take their personal experience over yours.
@@krazy-kavman59 I beg to differ. I believe the extra layer of padding in the boxing glove infact adds an extra layer of G-force that a bare knuckle punch simply wouldn't have, as the boxer now has to punch ferther+harder to reach his target with a glove on, and may not even feel that he hit that hard once his strike lands due to the padding also.
Wonderful video. R.I.P Justin
This was a great breakdown & thanks for making this. I watched the whole thing & was even surprised that the video is shorter than expected (the black at the end).
I personally love boxing, MMA, & hockey fights. Any physical activity has risk. There's even downhill Power Wheels ride-on vehicle competitions (check them out here on TH-cam) where adult riders tumble & it looks brutal. Yet clearly they're having fun.
Ultimately one has to outweigh the risks of an activity with how much a person enjoys it. People get outraged when someone dies of injuries whether it's bare knuckle combat or base jumping off a bridge. The important thing to know is that athletes do what they do because they love it. There's literally no other reason why they would do it.
There's no real difference from being hit with a gloves hand or a bare knuckle besides the cutting and tissue trauma of bareknuckle. Force is force. He could've been knocked out and fell like this in any combat sport.
@Yuna🤗 what the fuck?
Wtf then why does UFC and boxing wear gloves?
actually, the bigger and heavier the gloves, the harder and more spread out the impact is....bare knuckle cuts more, but doesnt cause as much CTE.
@@stevied2008 the only reason is because so they don't get cut. Knuckles cut you like crazy. Makes it hard to fight a 3-5rd fight when your leaking so much blood you can't see.
If you knew basic physics you wouldn't spew such bullshit. Go get educated
Joe rogan needs to have you on sometime
I understand this is a case by case basis, and this is an awesome breakdown of this situation.
Another great job Doc.
I honestly thought this would happen to Paige Van Zant. I think the fighters fall to the canvas was the main culprit here, more so than the sport itself.
this man could remove my appendix just by talking about it. powerful, intelligent, and consistent. attributes that only a god could holster
Dude that shit hurts lol
Very well said👍👍
Thats a refreshing take from a doctor. Completely agree, specifically with the roster pool they draw from. These are at risk fighters to begin with, so its not the sport as much as it is the phsyical condition of the fighters.
It's kind of crazy for boxing communities to condemn the safety of bare knuckle boxing. By far the most combat sports deaths come in gloved boxing
I agree with your conclusion. Its always been wild to me how in order to get a professional boxing license, all you need to do in most athletic commissions is just simply pass a physical. I've always wondered why their actual skills and abilities arent tested to some degree in order to see if they can even compete when the stakes are this high and a fighters life is literally at risk
Beautifully explained.
This could have happened in any combat sport.
I'm a massive fan of combat sports and BKFC isn't my thing because of this factor. It's like demolition Derby of combat sports. Put old wrecked cars into a pit and watch them crash and burn. Not my thing. I prefer to watch the cleaner spots, on a track with actual tactics.
This was a freak accident and had nothing to do with the lack of gloves though....they honestly just shouldnt have put this older bloke in the ring. He had too many previous KOs. But fair point, you can def say bkfc is less tactical and more brute violence.
Gotta love those midwest/deep south athletic commissions. "You have at least one arm? Check. You have at least one leg? Check. Alright, you're cleared to fight. Good luck out there, champ!"
The world needs more people like u… the woke saw an opportunity to sound off about something and u just silenced them u are a gentleman and a scholar! 👊🏼👏🏼🙏🏼❣️
Fighters know the risks. Knowing the potential consequences, accepting the fact they could die in combat and fighting anyway because of their dedication to the sport is what makes men like Thornton a warrior. RIP. I hope this doesn't hurt BKFC as a brand because to me it's a purified version of combat sport.
There are no rules that would have changed the way he fell. It was an accident. It sucks and I have nothing but sympathy for his family, but shit happens.
The show must go on.
Your thoughts on this Gypsy bare knuckle fight best of 2021: th-cam.com/video/G-CoLOXCESU/w-d-xo.html
In my view a very good video with very good points made.
I hope celebrities watch this and stop trying to jump in combat sports for the clicks.
LOL nah after JOKE Paul gets dealt, we can worry about that!
What? Please celebrities jump in.
Ufc really takes care of it's athletes. Sad athletes move from ufc to these more dangerous organizations
Thank u Doctor for information 🙏🧡🙏
Ayy doc good to see you man
As an anatomy mnemonic goes: C3, 4 & 5 keep the diaphragm alive. And so, the phrenic nerve goes out the window. Bare knuckle fighting is dangerous but so is judo where people get thrown on their heads all the time. Here, I think it was unfortunate bc he was unconscious. Great video, doc.
Impressive this man has time to be a doctor and run a successful TH-cam channel. Much respect sir.
I agree anyhow he Died like a true warrior true R.I.P my condolences go out to the family/friends and his opponent and coaches who probably feels terrible.
I love this channel!
I haven't seen many comments about the other guy. I hope he's doing ok and not mentally traumatised by what happened. Man combat sports is brutal sometimes. RIP...
Well positioned doc!
RIP JUSTIN 🙏 🕊 FLY HIGH BROTHER 💙
Pretty dangerous stuff hey Brian, there's a video about some poor kid a couple years back in the amateurs kickboxing and no one was paying attention to the kid and he eventually ended up dying.
So sad. But I appreciate your input. I'm no medical professional but the fall looked more damaging than the punch for sure.
In the Army we are supposed to have a baseline study done involving reaction time among many other things prior to deployment in a combat zone. When exposed to a blast or some other trauma the same test is supposed to be done after the exposure. In the early days of our recent wars a baseline was never really established, i noticed being slower after an incident but not having the baseline it was always my word against the military. I was a combat medic for 21 years and am glad we started tracking the unseen injuries to help protect our brothers and sisters, I could 100% see this happening in sports if it isn't already. We have to watch out for each other, I'm all for competition, ass kicking's, bare knuckle and so on but I don't wish permanent injury that could have been monitored with something like a before and after TBI screening, RIP Sir and to all my fighters out there along with all the other sports, duties and so on, keep up the great work but watch out for your health when possible ❤
R.I.P Justin Thorton Prayers For Him And His Family And Friends❤❤❤
I agree wholeheartedly about the need to standardize performance and overall health criteria for combat sports. It will serve to protect athletes while leveling the playing field between states. It will also serve to help protect financial investors and promoters of combat sports, both of which are essential producers of this form of entertainment. I hope that some fairly strict criteria will be employed. We consumers and participants of martial art combat deserve no less.
I think there needs to be a more general discussion on the medical treatment athletes receive. I'd love to hear Dr. Sutterer's opinion on the ongoing scandal in the nhl with the un-prescribed used of highly addictive painkillers and otherwise medical malpractice. In general it seems that the player is viewed as an asset, not a person
Vancouver Grizzlies Forever!!!!! I remember their inaugural season when they were giving free (mullet) haircuts to kids at GM Place so they could look like the star player “Big Country”. Good times.
Hey Doctor! Do you think you could do a video on the effects of cutting weight and “same day weigh ins” vs “day before weigh ins”?
Your voice is perfectly clear. What microphone are you using, it's a good one.
We need a designated role in these events for running in and preventing extra trauma to the head. I think a lot of these serious injuries do come from the secondary blows, be it hitting the ground with all the momentum of a fall or the extra follow up blows fighters sometimes inflict.