Stephen absolutely speaks to how I feel. I am 62 and feel so far out of my depth in the world that I live in. I don’t like or enjoy most of what happens in it any more I feel no connection to the way people act or speak. I realise how lucky I was to be bought up in a gentle kind family who looked after each other and others. We were working class, Dad was on very low wages, we had enough and were perfectly happy. I think we have to go back to looking after each other in families in communities and hope the ripples spread. Most other stuff is too big to fathom let alone sort out.😻🙏❤️
In tears listening to Stephen speak with power and compassion to his tortured teenage self. Flooded back to my own broken hearted teenage-hood. Gay. Surrounded by brutality. Determined that somehow, somewhere, there was a place for me. And there was. My life has been filled with joy and pain and laughter and sorrow and above all, love. Glorious, endlessly complicated, magnificently simple love.
Listening to Stephen Fry speak is never anything less than a joy. His articulacy and insight on so many subjects is stimulating and like a balm for the... The bit of the mind that feels emotions... what's the word? Emotionarium?
its quite heartening to realise stephen feels so negative about the future. thats how i feel too. not happily so but as kurt vonnegut said "so it goes"
Only 25 mins in and HAD to say what excellent knowledge, what a great fellow Stephen is. Grammatically hazardous as my statement is, I'm his loyal acolyte. Top man.
Stephen's letter and response both resonated so deeply, especially as a queer person who is now wrestling with the "car keys and the pubs and the mortgages" at 30. It's wonderful and sad and hopeful all at once.
As someone said to me once you can only control the controllables, that doesn't mean you can't be concerned or worried about other things, but if you are not in a position to be able to change them then it can be an awful waste of energy and breath. As my mother once said to me " save your breath, you might need it one day".
I stopped watching you both and scrolled down during Stephen's reply to his young self to instantly write a reply. I'm still listening. frozen and in pause. Finally this beautiful memory having read. I can relate to everything and nothing he said. After all we are two different people. I will take away from this, and try the important exercise to write a letter. Too late to a future self but never too late to have a conversation with yourself. Thank you
It is wonderful to see Stephen looking so well, hearing his thoughts as his mind is as witty as ever and his insightful travels through life, For anyone who gets caught up with his reaction to an election at the commencement of a 70 minute video for only a minute or two, missed his point about dealing with emotions. Sorry to hear about the special people in your life Josh.
Wow. Josh Szeps' voice is so like his father's, actor Henri Szeps, that I had to check. The familiar Aussie mellifluousness - but also Josh's own style. 😉 Josh's surname helped me put the voice to the name. 😊
It is interesting to learn what Stephen has chosen to use his vast intellectl to learn about in more depth, and what he hasn't. Of course, as with all of us, the extent of his knowledge informs the conclusions he comes to.
I believe Stephen Fry is right about the illusory nature of power. The analogy I prefer to use to explain goes like this: A Pope, a President, and a Soldier are alone in a room. "Kill the Pope, Soldier,' says the President. "Do it for your country." The Pope turns on the Soldier. "For the love of God kill the President." Which among these three have the power. The Soldier, or the man he listens to? It cannot be the Soldier because he acts upon the will of another, yet it also cannot be anyone else because it is on account of some ineffable thing, some vestige of instinct, intellect, loyalty, or integrity, which lies within the Soldier that ultimately compels him to act. Power does not exist. It is a way in which individuals absolve themselves of responsibility over their actions by attributing agency to some external factor or condition. In the final analysis each of us it ultimately alone and we are what we choose to be regardless of whether that choice is arrived at through indifference or determination.
Thank you so much for this. It sings with logic and dream, which is almost impossible to explain. Yet you did, which gives me a feeling immense respect for your words.
Thank you for the fascinating interview. With huge respect for Stephen Fry's erudition and admirable other talents, I'm surprised to find him so reductive. For example, how does he justify calling other human beings disgusting because they don't share his values? Isn't that like calling gays disgusting in an earlier era? The hoi poloi have always existed, as Mr. Fry knows, and they never took much heed of intellectual pursuits or cared for ruling elites. Until the internet opened a channel of expression for that class, they had no public voice. Now that they're screaming loud and proud, it must be moral and ethical to hear them out or, at least, refrain from denigrating them...? While it's the bottom of the Wheel of Fortune for Mr. Fry, it's the top of the wheel for the previously ignored lower classes. I completely understand him ignoring their voices but don't understand at all calling them ugly names.
I only got to watch a snippet of this during the premiere. I listened tonight and love Fry. There were parts that made me laugh, cry and think. Some of the answers were not as I expected. Brilliant work Josh. Like I have said before and another comeent also. I am amazed you don't have a bagillion followrs. I mostly listen on podcast. Now I need to check if im actually subscribed. Oops
“It’s a strange paradox, that the liberals are illiberal in their demand for liberality. They are exclusive in their demand for inclusivity. They are homogenous in their demand for heterogeneity. They are somehow un-diverse in their call for diversity - you can be diverse, but not diverse in your opinions and in your language and in your behaviour. And that’s a terrible pity." Stephen Fry. Great conversation. Thanks.
There's no objective evidence for the existence of God, the divinity of jesus and the veracity of the bible. Also protestantism is a fake religion anyway
I could never understand those who would bully or physically violent towards others because they are different but I also dislike intellectual snobbery. Stephen is an intelligent man and being an atheist why does he talk about the natural world being "cruel " . The universe just is and doesn't make judgements.
He didn't ascribe 'judgement' to the universe. The universe contains many horrors, not the least of which is that the innocent suffer. That suffering is not the result of judgement or punishment as those who believe in a creator god may claim, but of a universe that is completely indifferent to cause and effect, good and bad.
I, too, have become exhausted by the current state of things and desire to tune out from it all..... at least for a little while. It's not that I don't care about the world. In point of fact, my concern for humanity and the planet has never been greater! Rather, it's the realization of my vanishingly little power relative to the big scheme of things and the self-harm of letting forces beyond my control wear me down. There's no point in fretting and mulling about issues that one cannot change; it's better to step aside, take a deep breath, and come to terms with your own insignificance in the capricious and inexplicable cosmos!
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The book "The Subtle Art of Not Giving a f*ck" by Mark Manson is about exactly this.
On the wheel turning round and round. The book; 'Alkibiades' by Ilja Leonard Pfeijffer, is a very interesting and exciting book, also dealing with this issue.
I have never had any interest vin politics ,a very busy working like ,then I retired ,and started taking an interest , bad move ,🥴 I agree with Stephen its all fuck all useless , nothing to be gained 🤔
'Pastiche'. That is exactly how humans learn. From observing and copying others, we develop our perceptions and skills, and find their own style. Some people's own style can be flexible and evolve. Babies instinctively know what to copy, and try for themselves without copying, to develop. They copy speech, ,and eventually discover rolling to move themselves even if adults are not role modelling getting from A to B by rolling. I want to connect with that instinct, so I dan continue with the natural process of learning and evolving throughout my lifetime. It requires being wiilling to let go of some fix constructs that Ii use to organise an overwhelmingly vast sense of the whole of reality, and using other aspects of my perceived frameworks afoundational stability, or trellises to grow from,
i so support your view of what matters I have deleted every asepct of social media that relates to politics anywhere else in the world including the late night comedy shows Life is much better In wise relationship with just so
There is a useful Chinese saying about the wise man, who can live happily today and die happily tomorrow. Equanimity. What would you do if you knew the world would end six months from now: become morbidly depressed? or go to a party?
i instituted a complete news blackout the night of the election, the 2nd time in 8 years, for exactly that reason: me watching the ongoing fall of democracy will effectuate zero change on the situation, while causing me nothing but upset and worry. i'm too old now, time to be happy and concentrate on myself from now on
I absolutely love Mr. Fry. As one with no religion, just a belief in science, and a trans woman who had an absolute miserable time as a youth have great empathy for his youth too. We are the same age as well. I don't like to call myself an Atheist, which is a title I find annoying. There is not word for those who do not believe pigs fly so why is one needed for those who don't believe in grey haired men in clouds who controls everything.
Josh...When you start a sentence with 'yes but..' it means you've stopped listening at the point when you disagreed with who you were talking to, to formulate your counter response in your head. Maybe something you can be more mindful of when you're interviewing.
6:44 - "...the wicked will be punished by the nature of the cosmos."??? Does the concept of wickedness (or evil) exist anywhere else apart from the human brain?
I love Stephen Fry. He is a great man. But he is wrong about Joe Rogan. He would find a very welcoming, honest interviewer if he was willing. If Christopher Hitchens were still with us, he would have gone on JRE a million times. He would have smashed it and loved it.
@@kingy002 What a pointless reply. Of course it's my opinion. Who else's opinion would it be? Pointing out that an opinion is an opinion doesn't actually make any case either way.
@@kingy002 I'm not selling anything. And I haven't asserted anything as a fact. I'm posting a comment on TH-cam and you're so dumb that you think identifying it as an opinion is a worthwhile response. Is that correct? This is the kind of stupidity one might expect from a 13-year-old who thinks that saying "that's your opinion" is a terribly clever response despite having nothing to say themselves. You sound like an imbecile.
When you're famous you are more likely to be listened to than anyone else, in fact you have a following. It's unfair to say fame doesn't come with power. Maybe not political but social power and that's a lot
I like stephen fry, very intelligent amc eloquent mam, but his views on religion and position on society are not tested here and respectfully his views on religion haven't changed for years and the issue of no god because of children's health etc is long standing, intelligent people views evolve they don't look for more reasons to cement their original ones and the name calling albeit literary of trump is as bad as them
I love and admire Stephen Fry, but disappointed to hear a misanthropic streak come through here, and such easy dismissal ("dreadful people") of those whose passions and motivations perhaps seem alien or crass to him.
He has fuckin' good reason to dismiss those very people that you are talking about. Anyone with a good grasp of history knows exactly how this plays out when fascists get into power.
@@kingy002 As a grasper of history, I do hope you use that term carefully. Which of Elon Musk's political views do you see as aligning with fascism (I believe Musk was the target of Fry's "dreadful people" comment)? In any case, my point is that a wise person would be keenly interested in trying to understand why someone they instinctively dislike thinks the way they do, rather than simply throwing around careless pejoratives, or writing off half the population (or the entire population, per Fry's "infestation" comment).
@@EvanM_ I acknowledge that Fry used the comment referencing Musk. I don't believe Musk should be in the role that he has been given. When Trump was first in power the debt went up just over 7 trillion dollars. If they wish to drop it 2 trillion there are going to be a lot of jobs gone. It is some of Trump's other picks that I believe will be fascistic in their behavior. I believe that no good will come out of Trump's new rein in power. More so now that he controls the house as well. The vast mass of staff that worked under him last time used words like moron, and a complete idiot about his behaviour and attitudes to governing. And these people were strong committed Republicans.
@@kingy002 That's fair enough, there's a lot to dislike about Trump and some of his appointments. I suppose my concern is that the word fascist tends to get thrown around as an insult, which can have the effect of inhibiting analysis of actual policy (regardless of whether a given policy does or doesn't bear any resemblance to any of the the various and contradictory elements of fascism). Better that specific policies are argued on their merits, as you do above. Your comments about debt and jobs may be right. I did hear Musk say he thinks public servants who lose their jobs should be given 2 years free salary and assistance transitioning to other roles or sectors, so it may be less drastic than that.
@@EvanM_ You are correct regarding the over use of the term fascism. For my part I hope that I am wildly inaccurate with my thoughts on the matter, but sadly I don't think I am. Trump's appointments to date leave me with zero faith in the path ahead.
It's interesting the he used the word 'contaminated' when talking about Trumps team and the institutions because that is exactly the claim of the 'team' about the far left contamination of the institutions. Two sides see the same problem with the opposite conclusion.
Sadly we in the US, esp. the trans, gays, etc. won't have the luxury of sitting around sipping wine with our buds, but it's ours to try to fix, having fucked it up. But the Brits & Europeans have their own right-wing issues now. Oh, and I find I'm the same age as Stephen. No wonder his letter to his 15 yo self rang true, though my 15 yo self isn't to be envied in the least. No thanks!
I enjoy Stephen Fry but i wish he would do some more digging on people like RFK, Trump and Rogan. I think he'd actually like Rogan Stop being so bloody snobbish.
I've never really felt at odds with the delucious Mr Fry until his response to the forced pronouns was "Bless". I wanted to scream. I hope I've misread his intention. The pronoun issue is the merely tip of a horrendous iceberg that's deeply homophobic, lesbophobic and misogynistic and a clear and present danger to vulnerable and confused children. I *must* assume Stephen hasn't yet clearly understood this because to believe he is actually in sympathy with the 'iceberg' would be deeply troubling.
Josh Szeps is one of the reasons I stopped listening to ABC radio. He dismissed people like me, who don't want men competing in women's sports, or having access to women's spaces as 'conservatives'. Fugg off Josh.
- problem is that with tech the world has started to move incredibly fast - either u move with it or stay behind - simply one’s choice - there’s no other way to talk or think - more clearly consider talking and thinking differently - fyi i can’t stand Trump - so do the math bout what i’m saying here - be well -
I love listening to Stephen Fry. That will never change he's such an honest, intelligent and erudite man
I agree. He always makes me see life in a different, better light.
@@ksc743100% agree
Stephen absolutely speaks to how I feel. I am 62 and feel so far out of my depth in the world that I live in. I don’t like or enjoy most of what happens in it any more I feel no connection to the way people act or speak. I realise how lucky I was to be bought up in a gentle kind family who looked after each other and others. We were working class, Dad was on very low wages, we had enough and were perfectly happy. I think we have to go back to looking after each other in families in communities and hope the ripples spread. Most other stuff is too big to fathom let alone sort out.😻🙏❤️
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In tears listening to Stephen speak with power and compassion to his tortured teenage self.
Flooded back to my own broken hearted teenage-hood. Gay. Surrounded by brutality. Determined that somehow, somewhere, there was a place for me.
And there was. My life has been filled with joy and pain and laughter and sorrow and above all, love. Glorious, endlessly complicated, magnificently simple love.
Good on you mate.
Yes good for you. Choose thoughts wisely as they set the intention.
Oh my! It's the kind of interview you wish could go on for hours! What an absolute treat it was ❤
I adore him and never tire of listening to him.
"I recognise the buildings, but it's not the same world." is going to become my catch phrase from now on. ❤🧡💛💚💙💜
Me too I'll be using it often 😊
This is one of the best interviews I have ever seen. I sure hope the winds of change blow that wheel of fortune right back upside down.
I see Stephen fry - take a deep breath, take a sigh - I click.
Listening to Stephen Fry speak is never anything less than a joy. His articulacy and insight on so many subjects is stimulating and like a balm for the... The bit of the mind that feels emotions... what's the word? Emotionarium?
its quite heartening to realise stephen feels so negative about the future. thats how i feel too. not happily so but as kurt vonnegut said "so it goes"
Amongst the absolute finest talks with one of my 'heroes'. Thank you.
Change is temporary... it's always been the same...
Only 25 mins in and HAD to say what excellent knowledge, what a great fellow Stephen is. Grammatically hazardous as my statement is, I'm his loyal acolyte. Top man.
Fascinating!!!!
Stephen's letter and response both resonated so deeply, especially as a queer person who is now wrestling with the "car keys and the pubs and the mortgages" at 30. It's wonderful and sad and hopeful all at once.
It's SO GOOD to be able to listen to a reasonable voice these days. Thank you!
As someone said to me once you can only control the controllables, that doesn't mean you can't be concerned or worried about other things, but if you are not in a position to be able to change them then it can be an awful waste of energy and breath. As my mother once said to me " save your breath, you might need it one day".
Wise words
I stopped watching you both and scrolled down during Stephen's reply to his young self to instantly write a reply. I'm still listening. frozen and in pause. Finally this beautiful memory having read. I can relate to everything and nothing he said. After all we are two different people. I will take away from this, and try the important exercise to write a letter. Too late to a future self but never too late to have a conversation with yourself. Thank you
My condolences to you, Josh. It's never easy losing someone you love, let alone three of them in quick sucession.
I’m 71yrs old and I respect Stephen Fry and REN. I think I maybe okay.
The two people I admire most also. ❤😊
He is younger but I have seen him surpassing me - I'll not say how long ago - but I still keep wishing he lived next door. So clever and honest. 😎
Stephen wears his heart on his sleeve and I adore him for it. Above all else he is a good person.
It is wonderful to see Stephen looking so well, hearing his thoughts as his mind is as witty as ever and his insightful travels through life, For anyone who gets caught up with his reaction to an election at the commencement of a 70 minute video for only a minute or two, missed his point about dealing with emotions. Sorry to hear about the special people in your life Josh.
Wow. Josh Szeps' voice is so like his father's, actor Henri Szeps, that I had to check. The familiar Aussie mellifluousness - but also Josh's own style. 😉 Josh's surname helped me put the voice to the name. 😊
I learn something new each time I listen to Stephen speak.
Great entertainment Thankyou and a wonderful listen I am so glad l found it
My, but how Stephen Fry can write!
It's always wonderful to listen the great Stephen Fry.
You’re getting some great guests, amazing that you don’t have more subs. They will come - keep it up 🙏
TH-cam isn’t the only channel you know…
It is interesting to learn what Stephen has chosen to use his vast intellectl to learn about in more depth, and what he hasn't. Of course, as with all of us, the extent of his knowledge informs the conclusions he comes to.
Great conversation Josh, thoroughly enjoyed it.
I believe Stephen Fry is right about the illusory nature of power. The analogy I prefer to use to explain goes like this: A Pope, a President, and a Soldier are alone in a room. "Kill the Pope, Soldier,' says the President. "Do it for your country." The Pope turns on the Soldier. "For the love of God kill the President." Which among these three have the power. The Soldier, or the man he listens to? It cannot be the Soldier because he acts upon the will of another, yet it also cannot be anyone else because it is on account of some ineffable thing, some vestige of instinct, intellect, loyalty, or integrity, which lies within the Soldier that ultimately compels him to act.
Power does not exist. It is a way in which individuals absolve themselves of responsibility over their actions by attributing agency to some external factor or condition. In the final analysis each of us it ultimately alone and we are what we choose to be regardless of whether that choice is arrived at through indifference or determination.
Thank you so much for this. It sings with logic and dream, which is almost impossible to explain. Yet you did, which gives me a feeling immense respect for your words.
"An artist is a servant of no one."
Thank you for the fascinating interview. With huge respect for Stephen Fry's erudition and admirable other talents, I'm surprised to find him so reductive. For example, how does he justify calling other human beings disgusting because they don't share his values? Isn't that like calling gays disgusting in an earlier era? The hoi poloi have always existed, as Mr. Fry knows, and they never took much heed of intellectual pursuits or cared for ruling elites. Until the internet opened a channel of expression for that class, they had no public voice. Now that they're screaming loud and proud, it must be moral and ethical to hear them out or, at least, refrain from denigrating them...? While it's the bottom of the Wheel of Fortune for Mr. Fry, it's the top of the wheel for the previously ignored lower classes. I completely understand him ignoring their voices but don't understand at all calling them ugly names.
I only got to watch a snippet of this during the premiere. I listened tonight and love Fry. There were parts that made me laugh, cry and think. Some of the answers were not as I expected. Brilliant work Josh. Like I have said before and another comeent also. I am amazed you don't have a bagillion followrs. I mostly listen on podcast.
Now I need to check if im actually subscribed. Oops
God I love Steven Fry.
If you love him that much you should put the ph in his name😁
“It’s a strange paradox, that the liberals are illiberal in their demand for liberality. They are exclusive in their demand for inclusivity. They are homogenous in their demand for heterogeneity. They are somehow un-diverse in their call for diversity - you can be diverse, but not diverse in your opinions and in your language and in your behaviour. And that’s a terrible pity." Stephen Fry. Great conversation. Thanks.
Brilliant and honest intellectual confrontation with his own gay teen angst. Whst a shame young Stephen could not be comforted by his future self.
I'd like to see Stephen Fry on Joe Rogan. That would be a fun conversation
@ksc743 if people only speak to people they have things in common with the world is doomed
At once, depressing and uplifting. Fantastic!
no, just a wet liberal nowadays, shame what has happened to him.
Like a gorgeous sermon on the book of Ecclesiastes from my favourite minister….
There's no objective evidence for the existence of God, the divinity of jesus and the veracity of the bible. Also protestantism is a fake religion anyway
Yuck
I could never understand those who would bully or physically violent towards others because they are different but I also dislike intellectual snobbery. Stephen is an intelligent man and being an atheist why does he talk about the natural world being "cruel " . The universe just is and doesn't make judgements.
He didn't ascribe 'judgement' to the universe. The universe contains many horrors, not the least of which is that the innocent suffer. That suffering is not the result of judgement or punishment as those who believe in a creator god may claim, but of a universe that is completely indifferent to cause and effect, good and bad.
I, too, have become exhausted by the current state of things and desire to tune out from it all..... at least for a little while. It's not that I don't care about the world. In point of fact, my concern for humanity and the planet has never been greater! Rather, it's the realization of my vanishingly little power relative to the big scheme of things and the self-harm of letting forces beyond my control wear me down. There's no point in fretting and mulling about issues that one cannot change; it's better to step aside, take a deep breath, and come to terms with your own insignificance in the capricious and inexplicable cosmos!
The book "The Subtle Art of Not Giving a f*ck" by Mark Manson is about exactly this.
On the wheel turning round and round. The book; 'Alkibiades' by Ilja Leonard Pfeijffer, is a very interesting and exciting book, also dealing with this issue.
What a fabulous conversation.
I have never had any interest vin politics ,a very busy working like ,then I retired ,and started taking an interest , bad move ,🥴 I agree with Stephen its all fuck all useless , nothing to be gained 🤔
Stephen is full of bs,why can't you see it.
Still watching the divvy box being spoon fed bs that's why.
Stephen Fry brought me here but I’ll subscribe.
I wonder when the first original thought/idea was. Maybe it was the last one too?
'Pastiche'. That is exactly how humans learn. From observing and copying others, we develop our perceptions and skills, and find their own style. Some people's own style can be flexible and evolve.
Babies instinctively know what to copy, and try for themselves without copying, to develop. They copy speech, ,and eventually discover rolling to move themselves even if adults are not role modelling getting from A to B by rolling.
I want to connect with that instinct, so I dan continue with the natural process of learning and evolving throughout my lifetime. It requires being wiilling to let go of some fix constructs that Ii use to organise an overwhelmingly vast sense of the whole of reality, and using other aspects of my perceived frameworks afoundational stability, or trellises to grow from,
Brilliant Stephen. I wish that microphone was not covering his face
i so support your view of what matters I have deleted every asepct of social media that relates to politics anywhere else in the world including the late night comedy shows Life is much better In wise relationship with just so
There is a useful Chinese saying about the wise man, who can live happily today and die happily tomorrow.
Equanimity. What would you do if you knew the world would end six months from now: become morbidly depressed? or go to a party?
It's easier to be patient when you're older...??? Hmm.... let me think. Is that before, during, or after HRT?
he was ayr above me in a different school , but i lived next door to MR ket his primary 2ndry headmaster [ Boy the tales he had on you mr Fry!!!lmao
Good thing 1 of you learnt to spell.
Seems you may have flunked out...😂
i instituted a complete news blackout the night of the election, the 2nd time in 8 years, for exactly that reason:
me watching the ongoing fall of democracy will effectuate zero change on the situation, while causing me nothing but upset and worry. i'm too old now, time to be happy and concentrate on myself from now on
Me too, and I don't miss it a bit. My last Give a F was years ago. I won't waste what time I have left on rot.
Musk as town cryer (sic!) 😢😢😢😢
Don't know about Madagascar, but it matters a lot to people of Ukraine.
Love it Josh and Stephen !!
I absolutely love Mr. Fry. As one with no religion, just a belief in science, and a trans woman who had an absolute miserable time as a youth have great empathy for his youth too. We are the same age as well. I don't like to call myself an Atheist, which is a title I find annoying. There is not word for those who do not believe pigs fly so why is one needed for those who don't believe in grey haired men in clouds who controls everything.
Is he still tweeting on diplodocus?
What does Stephen say after Margaret Thatcher?
Bodicea, an ancient British warrior queen.
@oldrabbit47 Thanks!
I never thought I'd have to say this to Stephen, but: okay, boomer.
Josh...When you start a sentence with 'yes but..' it means you've stopped listening at the point when you disagreed with who you were talking to, to formulate your counter response in your head. Maybe something you can be more mindful of when you're interviewing.
i love stephen very much
i use to, but he has become an intolerable wet liberal...quite unfortunate.
6:44 - "...the wicked will be punished by the nature of the cosmos."???
Does the concept of wickedness (or evil) exist anywhere else apart from the human brain?
I love Stephen Fry. He is a great man. But he is wrong about Joe Rogan.
He would find a very welcoming, honest interviewer if he was willing.
If Christopher Hitchens were still with us, he would have gone on JRE a million times. He would have smashed it and loved it.
In your opinion.
@@kingy002 What a pointless reply.
Of course it's my opinion. Who else's opinion would it be?
Pointing out that an opinion is an opinion doesn't actually make any case either way.
@@BigCatinBKK You are selling your statements as facts when they are merely opinions. Can you not grasp that?
@@kingy002 I'm not selling anything. And I haven't asserted anything as a fact.
I'm posting a comment on TH-cam and you're so dumb that you think identifying it as an opinion is a worthwhile response. Is that correct?
This is the kind of stupidity one might expect from a 13-year-old who thinks that saying "that's your opinion" is a terribly clever response despite having nothing to say themselves. You sound like an imbecile.
@@BigCatinBKK The penny drop did it!
When you're famous you are more likely to be listened to than anyone else, in fact you have a following. It's unfair to say fame doesn't come with power. Maybe not political but social power and that's a lot
The host talks over Mr. Fry. Not good.
He sounds wise....but weary and resigned....
I like stephen fry, very intelligent amc eloquent mam, but his views on religion and position on society are not tested here and respectfully his views on religion haven't changed for years and the issue of no god because of children's health etc is long standing, intelligent people views evolve they don't look for more reasons to cement their original ones and the name calling albeit literary of trump is as bad as them
I love and admire Stephen Fry, but disappointed to hear a misanthropic streak come through here, and such easy dismissal ("dreadful people") of those whose passions and motivations perhaps seem alien or crass to him.
He has fuckin' good reason to dismiss those very people that you are talking about. Anyone with a good grasp of history knows exactly how this plays out when fascists get into power.
@@kingy002 As a grasper of history, I do hope you use that term carefully. Which of Elon Musk's political views do you see as aligning with fascism (I believe Musk was the target of Fry's "dreadful people" comment)? In any case, my point is that a wise person would be keenly interested in trying to understand why someone they instinctively dislike thinks the way they do, rather than simply throwing around careless pejoratives, or writing off half the population (or the entire population, per Fry's "infestation" comment).
@@EvanM_ I acknowledge that Fry used the comment referencing Musk. I don't believe Musk should be in the role that he has been given. When Trump was first in power the debt went up just over 7 trillion dollars. If they wish to drop it 2 trillion there are going to be a lot of jobs gone. It is some of Trump's other picks that I believe will be fascistic in their behavior.
I believe that no good will come out of Trump's new rein in power. More so now that he controls the house as well. The vast mass of staff that worked under him last time used words like moron, and a complete idiot about his behaviour and attitudes to governing. And these people were strong committed Republicans.
@@kingy002 That's fair enough, there's a lot to dislike about Trump and some of his appointments. I suppose my concern is that the word fascist tends to get thrown around as an insult, which can have the effect of inhibiting analysis of actual policy (regardless of whether a given policy does or doesn't bear any resemblance to any of the the various and contradictory elements of fascism). Better that specific policies are argued on their merits, as you do above. Your comments about debt and jobs may be right. I did hear Musk say he thinks public servants who lose their jobs should be given 2 years free salary and assistance transitioning to other roles or sectors, so it may be less drastic than that.
@@EvanM_ You are correct regarding the over use of the term fascism. For my part I hope that I am wildly inaccurate with my thoughts on the matter, but sadly I don't think I am. Trump's appointments to date leave me with zero faith in the path ahead.
What self absorbed creatures humans are! So full of ourselves. Everyone wants to rule their world 🌎.
It's interesting the he used the word 'contaminated' when talking about Trumps team and the institutions because that is exactly the claim of the 'team' about the far left contamination of the institutions. Two sides see the same problem with the opposite conclusion.
Josh trying to show off with his big words. So embarrassing.
Good grief. You have a very low bar in calling Stephen Fry a 'hero'.
I used to like Fry but the more I listen to him the more arrogant and pompous he seems. Insufferable now.
Stop referring to things!!!!
Sadly we in the US, esp. the trans, gays, etc. won't have the luxury of sitting around sipping wine with our buds, but it's ours to try to fix, having fucked it up. But the Brits & Europeans have their own right-wing issues now.
Oh, and I find I'm the same age as Stephen. No wonder his letter to his 15 yo self rang true, though my 15 yo self isn't to be envied in the least. No thanks!
Please don’t interrupt the shit one of this one.
I enjoy Stephen Fry but i wish he would do some more digging on people like RFK, Trump and Rogan. I think he'd actually like Rogan
Stop being so bloody snobbish.
I've never really felt at odds with the delucious Mr Fry until his response to the forced pronouns was "Bless".
I wanted to scream.
I hope I've misread his intention.
The pronoun issue is the merely tip of a horrendous iceberg that's deeply homophobic, lesbophobic and misogynistic and a clear and present danger to vulnerable and confused children.
I *must* assume Stephen hasn't yet clearly understood this because to believe he is actually in sympathy with the 'iceberg' would be deeply troubling.
Considering it’s a sit down interview why TF are you advertising mic stands ?
Move them out of the way of your people, if you have any respect.
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Fry's disdain of Rogan demonstrates how we all become bigoted and judgemental as we get old. Does he realise the old greek philosophers wrestled?
I am here listening to Josh after first hearing Josh on Rogans show. Fry barely knows who Rogan is...
@@tz250wktm8 He knows exactly who Rogan is. When you grow up you'll know too.
@@qgholway Fry called him Seth Rogan.
I am sad for you if that is all you get from this interview.
Rogan engages in post-truth populist narratives, and gives credit to certain people who should never be given such unrestrained influence.
Josh Szeps is one of the reasons I stopped listening to ABC radio. He dismissed people like me, who don't want men competing in women's sports, or having access to women's spaces as 'conservatives'. Fugg off Josh.
I've always enjoyed listening to Stephen Fry, but now I can't believe how out of touch he is now.
- problem is that with tech the world has started to move incredibly fast - either u move with it or stay behind - simply one’s choice - there’s no other way to talk or think - more clearly consider talking and thinking differently - fyi i can’t stand Trump - so do the math bout what i’m saying here - be well -
i used to like this guy , but what a pompous WET liberal he has become...begone FRY!!!
So glad Trump won.
yes Fry is a pompous liberal nowadays very unfortunate.