Yeah, I was stoked he felt comfortable enough with my driving that he handed me the keys--if you mess up the aero on this car you probably can't even buy replacement parts for certain things...he knows I respect everyone's builds and even on this small track I didn't put so much as a tire off (though we went right up to the edge on the last corner once or twice!)
Great question...I'm actually thinking of making a comparison video on IRL 86 vs Sim 86, so I'll give you my work-in-progress thoughts on that: It's fairly close in a lot of ways! The traction balance and power output is actually really close, but it's important to note that this IRL 86 has small 15's with probably 205 or 215 size tires...if it was running bigger & heavier wheels or wider/stickier tires then a real 86 would be way harder to slide due to lack of power. Also, real 86's tend to grip just fine and then slip into oversteer if you push too hard, but the WDTS cars (and many drift packs I've tried in general) seem to understeer pretty badly when trying to grip drive them and be pretty slow in grip, such that they're actually a little faster when intentionally sliding them. This is opposite in IRL cars, they're pretty much universally faster when grip driving them, even if they're set up to drift. That said, the WDTS 86 is the least "grip understeery" of all the cars in the pack, but real AE's grip even better and almost never have a hint of understeer once set up. One of the biggest things missing from the WDTS 86 (and any 86 in sim) is the lack of clunking noises and vibrations as the car scoots around the track. Especially with no interior, drifting an AE86 on track sounds like a bunch of plastic and metal scraps being cycled through a clothes dryer 😂😂😂 The steering is heavier and jerkier than "newer" old cars too, with great feedback. I'd say a DD wheel would best simulate an AE86 even with a power steering rack, whereas I feel like a belt drive wheel can do a pretty solid job simulating more refined power steering chassis like silvias.
@@KameTrick i love that clunking sounds xD maybe you can replicate that with bass shakers xD Anyways thank you for the response, your videos helped me started in sim drifting way back. Keep it up!
This track is a gem we call “Mac Park” because of the road it’s located on…it used to be a go kart track but it’s basically fallen into disuse aside from the occasional drift event.
I’m not sure if someone has made one or not. Personally I find it more enjoyable to sim drive tracks I don’t have IRL experience on…I tend to find my shift points, gearing and braking points in sim conflict with what works don’t in reality. Not sure if it’s a problem with tire implementation, sim car physics, or the track design/sizing, but as a result I don’t usually drive tracks I know really well IRL😅
My USA home tracks are OMC and Max Park in OK, the first track I ever drifted was Kil-Kare in OH, and my Japanese “home track” was Sportsland Yamanashi (by proximity, but I didn’t have a car myself in Japan so I only rode with others in it…would love to link that track a few times before I kick the bucket)
@@KameTrick I'm gonna come check it out. I used to fly Rc's across the street from Mac park, I've had many crash on that track. I have a manual turbo gs..
Really every car trains the driver, just in what way, right? Low power cars train certain tendencies about conserving momentum and balancing a drift with less than “gangster angle” which is a useful skill. High power cars may lead to certain bad habits, but are also the only way to learn other skills, etc etc. same for long vs short wheelbase and light coupes vs heavy 4 doors. For cars specifically similar to the AE86, you’d be looking at N/A Miata’s and Lexus IS300/Altezzas running Beams motors. Also cars running stock boost SRs, RB20s, and N/A KA’s or Beams swapped cars imho ✌🏻
@@KameTrick I have a rx7 fd I’m building and I was curious if the tendencies of the ae86 may follow in a low power fd. But the double wish bone suspension and wider track makes me believe maybe not so much.
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What a ripper! Take a closer look at this AE86 in my "Drift Car Tour" th-cam.com/video/veLoIDavNww/w-d-xo.html
Awesome video! The owner is definitely a real one!
Yeah, I was stoked he felt comfortable enough with my driving that he handed me the keys--if you mess up the aero on this car you probably can't even buy replacement parts for certain things...he knows I respect everyone's builds and even on this small track I didn't put so much as a tire off (though we went right up to the edge on the last corner once or twice!)
What a wonderful weapon! A delight to watch Ben 👍
It really was awesome. As rad in drift as my build was in grip 🔥
Looks like a ton of fun on that tight course
The AE86 is a perfect fit for it, absolutely
Bruh the VO at the beginning I can't tell if that's you or not. That was mad good. Also it's always nice to an 86 on the track
Haha yeah I sound a little different on a podcasting mic setup vs a GoPro on a windy track day 😆
Car looks incredibly fun. Loved getting more helmet cam footy from you! Your driving is always fun to watch.
Thank you! This one was a really fun time, I definitely enjoyed it and was able to cross a chassis off my "drift bucket list" ❤
What a smooth ride! Great video, glad you got to tear it up.
Thanks, Zach!
I love dennis' AE86
He’s done a great job. Once I get a few more “car tour” vids done I should have someone do mine before I ruin it 🤣
He is so smooth
Not too bad for my first time driving it, anyway. I’d have gone a bit harder but I wanted to make sure I didn’t hurt the car 😅
Awesome.
super cool
Those ITBs sound sooo good haha
Amazing!, does it feel very close to WDTS' AE86?
Great question...I'm actually thinking of making a comparison video on IRL 86 vs Sim 86, so I'll give you my work-in-progress thoughts on that:
It's fairly close in a lot of ways! The traction balance and power output is actually really close, but it's important to note that this IRL 86 has small 15's with probably 205 or 215 size tires...if it was running bigger & heavier wheels or wider/stickier tires then a real 86 would be way harder to slide due to lack of power. Also, real 86's tend to grip just fine and then slip into oversteer if you push too hard, but the WDTS cars (and many drift packs I've tried in general) seem to understeer pretty badly when trying to grip drive them and be pretty slow in grip, such that they're actually a little faster when intentionally sliding them. This is opposite in IRL cars, they're pretty much universally faster when grip driving them, even if they're set up to drift. That said, the WDTS 86 is the least "grip understeery" of all the cars in the pack, but real AE's grip even better and almost never have a hint of understeer once set up.
One of the biggest things missing from the WDTS 86 (and any 86 in sim) is the lack of clunking noises and vibrations as the car scoots around the track. Especially with no interior, drifting an AE86 on track sounds like a bunch of plastic and metal scraps being cycled through a clothes dryer 😂😂😂 The steering is heavier and jerkier than "newer" old cars too, with great feedback. I'd say a DD wheel would best simulate an AE86 even with a power steering rack, whereas I feel like a belt drive wheel can do a pretty solid job simulating more refined power steering chassis like silvias.
@@KameTrick i love that clunking sounds xD maybe you can replicate that with bass shakers xD
Anyways thank you for the response, your videos helped me started in sim drifting way back.
Keep it up!
That looked like great fun. What track is that?
This track is a gem we call “Mac Park” because of the road it’s located on…it used to be a go kart track but it’s basically fallen into disuse aside from the occasional drift event.
@@KameTrick ok yeah I know Mac park. Not too far from where I live up on meridian. Wish someone could make it for AC. Thanks for the reply!
Is that a two stroke in the car or smth? 😂😂
Anyone have recommendations for small tracks like this one for assetto corsa?
Drift Playground 2021, Bihoku Highlands (has a large and small track) and Suzuka Twin are worth a look ✌🏻
Heyy, do we have this track on assetto?
I’m not sure if someone has made one or not. Personally I find it more enjoyable to sim drive tracks I don’t have IRL experience on…I tend to find my shift points, gearing and braking points in sim conflict with what works don’t in reality. Not sure if it’s a problem with tire implementation, sim car physics, or the track design/sizing, but as a result I don’t usually drive tracks I know really well IRL😅
@@KameTrick yeah makes sense tbh :D
So strange seeing one lefthandsteered!
I’m just glad they were sold here😅
Home track?
My USA home tracks are OMC and Max Park in OK, the first track I ever drifted was Kil-Kare in OH, and my Japanese “home track” was Sportsland Yamanashi (by proximity, but I didn’t have a car myself in Japan so I only rode with others in it…would love to link that track a few times before I kick the bucket)
@@KameTrick I'm gonna come check it out. I used to fly Rc's across the street from Mac park, I've had many crash on that track. I have a manual turbo gs..
What other cars train the driver
Really every car trains the driver, just in what way, right? Low power cars train certain tendencies about conserving momentum and balancing a drift with less than “gangster angle” which is a useful skill. High power cars may lead to certain bad habits, but are also the only way to learn other skills, etc etc. same for long vs short wheelbase and light coupes vs heavy 4 doors.
For cars specifically similar to the AE86, you’d be looking at N/A Miata’s and Lexus IS300/Altezzas running Beams motors. Also cars running stock boost SRs, RB20s, and N/A KA’s or Beams swapped cars imho ✌🏻
@@KameTrick I have a rx7 fd I’m building and I was curious if the tendencies of the ae86 may follow in a low power fd. But the double wish bone suspension and wider track makes me believe maybe not so much.