Is the Grimsmo Norseman still relevant? (Deep dive review)
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I have a Norseman and mine doesn’t do that. The flipper tab could be a little larger. I like the design.
Now I don’t feel so bad I can’t afford a Norseman.
I just got my first Norseman, #546, so it's an older one, but mine has none the issues you mentioned. No double bounce, no play either direction. That said I didn't pay retail but I am happy with it and plan on carrying it to put it through my usual testing.
You keep saying “it’s made by a machine” like it doesn’t take hundreds of machining processes and months of development to get the CNC programmed. I’d rather have a CNC machined knife over a hand machined knife personally. 🤷🏻♂️
This review is garbage. I’m not biased at all. I have $30 knives and $1500 knives. The Norseman is still amoung the best ever.
You are entitled to your opinion brother, as are we all.
I really appreciate this honest review brother. I think it’s fair for all of us who love knives to get an honest review like this. Earned a sub here good sir!
My Norseman is from November 2021. Zero blade play horizontal or vertical from the maker and it has the signature drop shut action. No double bounce either.
This is kinda what I expected regarding these & some other high dollar folders. Full disclosure, I have never paid more than a quarter of that for a knife. So I just lost most of the audience & anyone left feels bad for me. If I pay $4-500 dollars for a knife I would expect perfection. Thanks for this video.
"What it's worth" is a ridiculous idea. John makes a product and charges what he does. If he can charge a lot and people still want it, good for him. It doesn't matter what these other knives feel like or cost because they're completely different products sold at different scales with different brands, different meaning etc etc etc. I feel like you're trying to slam JG for succeeding with a product that you don't particularly like, and it doesn't really matter how you feel about it. His success is a measure of what other people think about it.
Agreed!
I know what you’re trying to say, but it still reads as “if he can rip people off and get away with it, great!”
@@DWhite-el4ih If you're getting a product you enjoy at a price you are willing to pay then you're not getting "ripped off". You're not paying for the worlds most functional or best made knife, most owners will never even use theirs, what you're paying for is a collection piece. No one is forcing anyone to buy one...and yet they are clearly still in demand.
@@LizardHunter777 If you’re not paying for a knife made well enough to justify the cost then why are you buying it?
Couldn’t agree more. Supply/demand=success as a proof of performance.
I AIN'T shabazz enough to appreciate it, it's a pointless broken knife ;=[
Most of these knife prices is just getting stupid ridiculous. That full custom piece is awesome! Thanks for the review!
Information and absolutely honest review. Keep up great job! Subscribed.
Always appreciate someone taking the time to review a product, however this sounds more like a personal rant. Furthermore, taking the time to edit shots of JG's face in your video in such a crafty manner also makes this seem personal. I have a variety of makers in my collection which includes a 2021 Norseman that has none of the issues you have pointed out. Perhaps you should take advantage of the warranty and send the knife back to Grimsmo for inspection of the issues you speak of... It's the practical thing to do vs continuing to buy their knives and complain about it. From looking at their channel, I see nothing but transparency in their knife making process.
Nothing personal about it brother, I just called it like I saw given my own personal experiences.
Grimsmo's manufacturing methodology seems pretty bizarre to me. He's completely over done his equipment purchases, with the Kern mill being the height of absurdity. It's like buying a cruise missile to deal with the rats in your barn.
$960? Wow! That double-tap would drive me crazy.
Almost every person that's buying a thousand dollar knife is going to adjust the pivot. I don't think there's a single person buying $1000 knives, that you have to get picked in a lotto to buy, and aren't adjusting the pivot at the very least; while most are taking it apart.
Exactly, people who buy at that price point are knife nerds and want to tinker with them and care about small details.
Wow ...stumbled onto your channel by chance, and frankly was so refreshing to see someone speak real truth about all the EDC overpriced hype that seems to be popularized these days ...especially on YT, thank you. subbed, liked and shared !
Thank you so much, that means the world to me.
@@RedwolfEDC > you are most welcome RW, i sincerely appreciate your honest perspective and willingness to call B.S. where you see it, frankly it is great to see a brave soul like yourself call it out for the benefit of us average peps who could simply use a break from the mega-hype-train & product marketing dishonesty , as too many supposed custom makers/edc product sellers/manufacturers are way out of control & seemingly looking to take advantage of people based off of the enormous growth/popularity of the knife collecting/EDC/bushcrafting & prepping culture. thanks again man, look forward to more vids from you going forward and will be going thru your vid archives as well ! all the best :)
To me the knife looks very ugly,the price tag is ridiculous
I've never seen a norseman with play, the drop shut has nothing to do with a loose pivot. Not sure where that one came from. I would say this is the first time I've seen anyone claim the drop shut is because of a loose pivot and a bunch of play. Do you honestly think they would have the amount of fans if poor QC was a hallmark of their brand regardless of their marketing? Its not logical.. Those guys are obsessive perfectionists who have constantly tweaked the norseman as well as the rask. I use my shit and definitely check blade play lock up etc.
Yes I do sir, I very much believe they would have the type of attention and fan base they do if they had QC issues. I literally have a Norseman in my hand, that I purchased with my own money and I am literally showing you the issues, instead of just telling you. Yet when presented with proof, evidence and something you can see with your own eyes, you immediately get defensive, which is exactly why these issues exist and they continue to exist.
At the end of the video I say it very clearly, “Honestly I don’t dislike this knife, I’ve bought four of them. With that being said though, as a unbiased reviewer, as all reviewers should be I cannot help but acknowledge all of the problems this knife has” this video is not an attack on you or your purchase brother, it’s just an honest, upfront, unbiased review of a product.
@@RedwolfEDC I don't even own one anymore im not a huge fan of the blade shape, but the point is claiming the drop shut action is only bc of a loose pivot is completely false, you are essentially implying every single knife leaves their shop with a loose pivot because everyone drops shut like that. Why would you buy four of a knife that has blade play unless you tighten the pivot to the point of not flipping, makes no sense. Also the evidence isn't "right in front of me" it's behind a youtube video.
I tried to illustrate it to the best of my ability brother, if I failed at properly proving and showing my point then I apologize for my failure.
@@faretheewell3711 cry more
Thanks for your honesty. I’d be pissed if I spent that much and it bounced on closing. Personally, I think it’s a rather ugly knife.
Mine has 0 play when tight and still drops shut. I appreciate the fact that it’s your opinion, I don’t agree but it’s your opinion. I do like my artisan knives, enough that I designed for them.
Brother i have so much respect for you, you approached this beautifully. Nearly everyone who disagreed with me did so with venom and vehemence. But you hit the nail on the head, everything I said is simply my experience and opinion, I am entitled to mine and you are absolutely entitled to yours.
Thank you for being so level headed brother, it means more then you know. 🙏
@@RedwolfEDC You should just go and see the heat that I get on my Emerson videos that I did on my channel… I’m not an Emerson knife fan and I 100% state it’s my opinion but my God do the fan boys try to tear me a new one
@@CrazySharp i shot you a sub and I am watching it now.
Oh stfu and get off your high horse
Got to handle one in a shop the other day and the only thing that went through my head was "Why am I not impressed right now?" Lol 🤷
I've had 2 and the only real problem for me, is that it needs more material. Just too light for me. I would only buy another if the color combo was and handle grinding was EXACTLY how I want it. $900+ is just too much for what you get. Too many little problems.
I owned Norseman, carried it for a bit and eventually sold it. I've had an itch to try it again becauseI did like the knife. However, for the money there are dozens of knives that I would rather carry, many of which can't be had ;( Thank you for reminding me that the Norseman isn't the best EDC knife and just in time because I was seriously contemplating buying another.
Great and honest breakdown. I couldn't understand the price for it being a production knife. So many badass customs you can get for way less
Custom knives for less than $950? Whose?
More like the Plymouth prowler, just not discontinued or rare..
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What about the rask? Should I buy a rask or the Holt knife that is similar?
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Great Vid Bro! I love your perspective on it. Did you make this in lumafusion? there are some great cuts in there!
Nope LumaFusion is confusing 😂, this is all on iMovie still 😂
It's a one hit wonder,but for me I am still wondering why.
They’ve got two on knifecenter right now for 1400 😂😂 yeah probably not lmao
I have had three Norseman and never experienced any on this.
I'm glad to hear that man but I cannot speak about the quality of all the knives they produce, only the ones I have directly handled and used.
I wanted one so bad. I live half an hour from where they’re made. So wanted to support a local maker. I had the opportunity to handle a friend’s and totally changed my mind. I could not believe how sloppy it was! The double tap on close is straight-up disgusting in my opinion. Thanks for the honest thoughts on this overrated POS. You have done a service to those is the knife community to counter the Shabazz effect 🖖
I’m just being honest brother and that is all I will ever be. Also if you want to support Canadian made then get a North Arms Skaha, because those are fantastic knives for a very fair price.
Thank you for your comment brother.
Im so glad I watched this….I just got an email to buy a citrus with blue accents one of these. Not anymore.
The Shabazz effect is disgusting to me as that double tap closing
To be fair in his last Norseman review shabazz did mention all of the same points Red did, he basically said in 2021 what you get doesn’t match the price point at all. But yes I agree about the shabazz effect.
What about people who don’t have it and don’t want it? Lol I don’t follow trends. I buy staples that been proven designs. I own a few XMs now but waited years to get one. Literally years and multiple generations to buy one. In fact when they came out and we’re all the hype and pulling insane secondary prices, I refused to even consider one. 6 months ago I got my first. Now I have 3. And they are on Teflon.
You can get amazing knives for this price, I think it looks cool but I'd NEVER buy one at 960
Great review definitely wouldn't mind having one
own around 10 norseman now (just really dig the design and different color pattern combinations), and yes the bounce can be annoying (i think it's due to the blade itself being too heavy, maybe), but no any other issus, and what I did to all my norseman is to simply tighten the pivot, I don't like the drop shut anyway, I find it works perfectly, the action of both deployment and shutting is still smooth as silk, love it even more then the drop shut. The price is definitely high, but for me, as long as I like it, as long as I want it, and as long as I can afford it, I really don't care about the price
As a watch enthusiast of many years, the Rolex comparison by Grimsmo is laughable. I don’t trust all of these new, hypey companies (Grimsmo, Oz, etc). Who knows if these companies will even be around in a couple years. Buy a used CRK or a Hinderer or a Shirogorov if you absolutely need a flipper.
Weird my 2019 model didn't have these issue.
I can only speak about what I have experienced first hand, nothing more and nothing less. I honestly hate putting out anything close to negative, I want every knife and every maker to be incredible.
I'm not sure it was ever worth it as a user, but it still has its place as a collector's item. I own a ton of knives ranging in value from $20 to $5000, and really I find the most utility from knives in the $50-$200 range. Above that you're just buying the joy you experience from adding it to your collection.
Don't get me wrong, the quality is very clear at the high end of that range. But that doesn't make it any more useful as a tool.
I can honestly say I didn’t like the Norseman and held out until 2 years ago. I thought to myself let me see what this ugly knife is all about and get one... easy to flip low risk! Ended up loving it despite what anyone says either way.
Your display of the pivot adjustment was sloppy in display and not convincing. I can also drop the blade without bouncing it on the stop pin. The flipper tab is great to me! Fits my hand great! And think it’s worth the price although I agree it’s on the higher end...
I think the lube and tool is great. Presentation means not only good marketing but an extra step towards custom care.
I completely disagree with almost everything you said .. I could film all your demonstration and spin it positively... so I’m not at all convinced 🤷♂️ big claim .. nice click bate but this one is biased and wrong on my opinion... not like that really matter s but it’s another comment 😂
I’ve literally have had the exact opposite experience with grimsmo 🤷♂️
Man people really need to look up the definition of click bait, because you and about 6 other people have all used the word incorrectly. You are aware that if the thumbnail matches the content of the video that it is the opposite of “click bait” right?
There are also about 50 comments in my video as well as in the comments of the different groups I posted in, saying the same thing. Are all of them also wrong? 🤔
Not to mention I have owned 4 Norseman and 3 of those were direct from Grimsmo, did the factory also tune it wrong?
You are entitled to your opinion brother, but a problem arrises when presented with increasing evidence and you simply ignore the issues.
I’m glad you like your knife, brother, to be fair the majority of the people who have been agreeing with me have 2020 and 2021 labeled Norsemans, so perhaps there are recent QC issues that everyone is choosing to ignore. What I can tell you is I am not biased in the least and I have proven that time and time again, you and many others praise me for my honesty and integrity until it no longer suits your narrative and then you dismiss it as click bait.
Here are a few facts about me that I have demonstrated time and time again, #1. I do not care in the least if I grow, this isn’t about subscribers or views man, I could give a fuck about any of that. If you like I can link you to my old travel, cigar and blog channel where I had 328k subs and I killed it all because it became a job and my love for the hobby died. #2. Everything I do, I do out of love and loyalty for this community and believe me I think long and hard before I put something like this out because John Grimsmo and his employees are apart of this community. #3. I have seen you comment on my videos and such before so obviously you have seen who I actually am and what I represent and that fact that you genuinely believe I would hurt this community for views or “click bait” genuinely hurts the hell out of my feelings man.
If you want to have an actual intelligent conversation then my social media is linked in the description.
Take care
@@RedwolfEDC I called it Clickbait it’s not a correct representation of the product.. It’s a controversial statement made of course it’s going to get a lot of hits. I’m not necessarily saying that’s what your videos all about. I am saying that I completely disagree with it and I don’t think it was a fair representation. I think you’re a pretty smart guy and you seem to know your stuff pretty well so I don’t think I have to say much more. I’m not being negative just to be negative. I think if anything most reviewer‘s have become way too critical on these products after all they are knives and they do cut very well. You said grimsmo never innovates.. i’m all about that if it ain’t broke don’t fix it attitude. Personally I don’t really see many needs for improvement... maybe just a new model. They’re constantly upgrading their equipment, I know a couple years ago they upgraded to cryo-he treats. So improvement seems to be some thing that they are doing. Everything I know about this brand contradicts what you said. I still respect your opinion and very much like the way you made your presentation. Just is a misrepresentation IMO.
@@Watchandcutgearchannel yes, perhaps In Your Opinion its a misrepresentation and you've had different experiences but as Red Wolf properly stated... it's not clickbait because the content absolutely matches the title...that's a fact!
I have no skin in the game. just my observation. Both of you are entitled to whatever the hell opinion you want to form
Cheers
I bought a rep version of it for around 150. Thats what that knife is really worth. You can't tell the difference between the two other than the knife steel used (rep uses m390) . Same titanium and same everything else. IF I put them sided by side you wouldn't be able to tell which is which. I feel anything over 200 for a knife is ridiculous unless its made of some sort of precious metal.
I sold the original and use the rep without the worry of damaging it. Im very happy with it. I would not recommend anyone spending 1000 for a norseman. He started making these at 450- then 500 then 900 now over 1K. Sorry production costs are supposed to go down not up. Yes he bought some impressive equipment that he probably didn't have to. I find it hard to believe that all his business is strictly knives. He must be manufacturing other parts / contract work to sustain the business .
It appears you have no idea how to tune a knife.
It appears you have no idea how editing a video works, would you like to watch me make 50 micro adjustments, does that excite you? No of course not so as I say in the video I have adjusted the pivot accordingly and all done one extreme to another. All you see is the edited product to keep the pace of the video brisk.
Also if you read the comments you would see that I have probably addressed this dozens of times already.
so much more better off with a Chris Reeve Sebenza ...When these Norseman knives first came out & they were $450 they might have been worth it I had 2 of them bought them direct in 2014 & 2015 in that one year the price went from $450 to $650 & had continued to go up just off hype definitely not worth the $900 & up price I don't think I would buy one for the $450 now the industry has innovated you can get much better for a fraction of the price .
Norseman owner. Some truth here but also more than a hint of bias. You claim no innovation from Grimsmo but you seem uninformed. John is constantly tweaking almost every facet of this knife and refining the machining process down to the smallest of it's parts and continually refining the Norseman. This has been happening from the beginning. For example, he's currently tweaking a lockbar insert which is soon to be introduced into Norseman production. This knife is continually, albeit slowly, evolving. I can take any of my knives including Holt, Shiro's or Koenigs and over tighten or loosen the pivot to the point to achieve the exact issues you've tried to display as a fault and is somewhat deceptive. Any pivot has to be adjusted 'properly'. It's not a difficult task once you have some experience and often involves more than just the pivot screw. Is this knife perfect... nope. Is any knife perfect... nope. I agree the knife is somewhat overpriced for the end product, particularly given the choice of steel, but it's still a 'great' knife.
What you said is all true, they are way overpriced for what they are. The double bounce is annoying, the flipper tab could be better designed. But the part about it having blade play to get drop shut action or no blade play and then it wont drop shut is not true. I have owned 3 thoughout the years. I only have 1 currently. All mine could be tightened down and they have zero side to side or back and fourth blade play. I mean zero, and they drop shut like crazy. I dont know why yours does that. The Norseman I have now has absolutely no blade play in any direction and drops shut. But like I said I do think they are way overpriced. Some things could be designed better. They are not worth the 900 bucks in 2021...
I don't understand the reasoning behind why people think hand made knives could ever match a CNC made knife. That being said the knife is only as good as the person designing and making it in the machine. This is why Ive never bought one of the grimsmo knives as they are overpriced for what your getting and if you watch what John does when making improvements to the knives it's usually things that don't really improve quality such as setting ridiculous surface finish tolerances or making a part overly precise. Always seemed gimmicky tbh
I seen a set of his pm2 scales on ebay auction about 2 years ago..they were at 1200$ or so with a few days left before the final bids..must be a cult of followers out there..they were honeycomb blue ano..looked nice but ..damn $1200+.??
Thanks for your honesty. You don't see this very often.
I freaking love these videos brother. Thank you you and more of these❗👍😊
I thought they were great until I found out they put the random date of manufacture on the knife and that the cages for the bearings are made from "high quality" PLASTIC.
Interesting to see some controversial opinions, could use some more of these.
I do have one and enjoy mine a lot, but it's not a grail because a grail should be something that's always out of your reach, I got mine from the second hand marked for a lot less than a new one, I don't have any blade play one mine, it flips and closes as it should, no double bounce eighter (the pivot is fully tightend too) , maybe i was lucky maybe you where unlucky I don't know about that and yea its not on the lvl of any of my customes i have
Great review!
I really don't see all the hype about several knives.
You may not feel the quality is worth the price, but make no mistake the process he uses definitely make is so he needs to charge that much. He’s not tricking people, he has over a million in equipment. 🙄
Sucks if this is your grail knife…lol!
Those guys probably have an INSANE M-tech collection..
I don’t even like the Norseman but you straight up weren’t being fair man. When you were ‘demonstrating’ the action and ‘double click’, you were purposely not applying enough pressure to make your point. Then you applied more pressure to make your other point.. jerking it shut to make the detent bounce. You did that on purpose. There is obviously a theme to this video. I make and mod knives and I’ve handled over 20 Norsemans. So there is absolutely no bias to my comments. I don’t like it. But it’s most certainly not as bad as you make it out to be for this video..
I'd rather spend my money on several knives (like a new Spyderco, Half Face Blades, and/or a Randall).
I never understood the Norseman I do not see the appeal nor do I see the Quality! I never liked anything about this knife and the price is absolutely outrageous!
I like the design and some of the colors but for 1k I feel like something should be hand made not all machine made.
My pivot is tight. The knife deploys and drops shut on it's own, no double bounce. I like mine and carry it a couple of times a week.
This will probably ruffle some feathers but it’s great to see a difference of opinion. A lot of other reviewers just co-sign to what the higher up reviewers say. It’s good to see a giant ginger come through and wreck shop! Love and respect the honesty, as always.
Oh it definitely has
Hey man! First of all thanks for the vids. I appreciate honest reviews and opinions. With that being i have few questions.
#1. Why would you have bought 4 norseman if you feel scammed for that price? Why giving your money to a guy who’s falsely advertising the quality of his products when it’s "obviously" not the case at all?
#2 how did you adjust the action? Because on every knife that i own i need to adjust the pivot with micro turns to find the sweet spot(only exception is my sebenza because of its bushing) it’s seems that you’re screwing it way to much at the time from what i’ve seen. I don’t have a norseman(and would never because I don’t like the look at all) but i had the chance to handle few and the action was perfect in every way. No blade play of any kind and drop shut with the rebound(which i like strangely lol)
#3 why bashing on shabazz? The reason i like him is exactly because he is critical and is not afraid to say what he likes or not on a knife.
Im just curious man there’s no harm in any ways. I’m just really surprised because it’s the first time i hear that kind of review about Grimsmo. I have a rask tho and it’s literally perfect in every way. I can’t find anything on it and i’m REALLY picky. Thanks again!
I bought 4 because I was honestly convinced I got a dud but after having 4 different ones and them all being the same I decided to release a video.
I adjusted the pivot over and over again but if I showed all that the video would be 15 minutes longer and drag like crazy. Also after I posted this video I got tons and tons of people saying they had similar issues with theirs. My main issue with grimsmo is the dishonesty of the company and all the crazy markets salesman stuff. Beyond that if you go to a show and grab any of their knives they will be perfect but that's not a accurate representation of what you get if you order one online because the QC really is all over the place. I also have a friend who works for grimsmo and there is some shady shit that goes on that I won't speak about cause it would involve breaking confidence and hurting my friend but if he ever quits and gives me permission i will release that video and you can watch their market share die.
I really appreciate your comment and how respectful you were with your questions.
Have a good day brother.
I hope my Chinese Hilberg $160 Norseman is better than this one, thanks for the review.
It very well might be.
Feeling before facts and logic is the New normal
The grimsmo has had some major ups but the downs are bad John unfortunately has ruined the knife at first it was a $600 knife semi hard to get wich drove the price up so people started paying $1000 plus for them but know he is what 6000 deep and has raised the price to $920 there for the secondary has tanked and now they are pretty much an expensive production knife like a rockstead but the rockstead is light years better in my opinion I still have a norseman but I’d also put my ruebens ti Rone at a better action and around the same in the machining plus the blade steal RWL34 or cpm154 come on even a s35vn or he should be using high end production type steals like 20cv any way he needs to stop production and come up with some new designs 2 designs since 2012/2013 is terrible
Man rocksteads are so much better in my opinion and I have never owned a rone but I have handled one at a show and it felt fantastic
I have my pivot dialed. Drop shut. No double bounce. Haters gonna hate
rolex...innovate? nah. ferrari and lambo yes
Garbage review. And I sold mine but it wasn't for a quality issue.
Only what I have seen first hand and what I genuinely tried to illustrate in the video.
You are 100% entitled to your own opinion though brother, thank you for sharing.
finally someone said it. in marketing it is el torro poo poo and that thump thump bouncing on the closure
Very good conversation. I thought it was fair, honest, precise, funny and not overly negative. I got into modern knives and after a while started to wonder if people are buying $1000 knives just to open the boxes of new knives they got because they aren't really happy with the $1000 pocket knife they bought. So now I'm back to carrying a $50 American made Buck 112 in my back pocket, like I did as a kid. Built like a tank and cuts like a beast. Have you felt a 112 in your hand recently? Fills the hand with a perfect thumb rest and no concept of a hot spot. And a super cool patina to boot. If I get the urge to play with something, I take out my Slysz Bowie or PM2 and after I flick for awhile, they go back in the fancy knife case and the 112 goes in my back pocket and off I go.
Honestly I've never had a custom that didn't have wonky edge grinds unless they're edge ground by a machine and not by hand. I'm actually at the point that I've gotten sick of wasting money on customs to just end up carrying a production knife so I don't screw up the expensive customs. But I also love my Norsemen but they never got used because there's no way in hell I'll ever be able to sharpen them. Mid tech and production knives are the way to go in my opinion especially if it's a Demko knife.
I want a Demko so freaking bad
Don’t have those issues with my Norseman from 2021. I believe my Norseman I previously had in 2018 had those issues though.
Hopefully they have improved their quality control
Always amazed how they sell this POS at 1000 $...
Don't care for it. Instead, look at the Viper Rhino from maniago Italy.
I love the look of the rask. Thanks for the review and for your take on the knife
I feel like maybe you havent heard of a torque wrench or how they are intended to be used. They are used specifically to prevent that mis-judgement you had in "tight" that causes the knife not to operate correctly. Having a torque window for that type of bearing is perfectly normal. Too much pressure and you begin to limit the fluid motion, requiring a stronger input force. And too loose, obviously you can have a loose assembly. Sure yours might have been too loose from factory. Stuff happens.
Where the community appreciates Grimsmo, is not in the flashiness of the product. Its because they appreciate all the time and energy that is shown in that product. People like to buy things where they can see how their made. Which is YES, marketing. Guitar players are more likely to pay top dollar to watch the luthier make their guitar online. Its special. Its unique. Its something people are willing to pay for.
I dont think people think Grimsmo knives are the most well engineered knife in existence. But I think people like to see what they get for their money by watching the process, knowing they are always looking for ways to improve their products, and knowing who their money is going to. You dont need the best product if you feel good about the transaction you made.
Some people will just never be happy with what they purchase, or fight back against community hype. People like the underdog, and when that underdog becomes the popular or mainstream guy... people who dont want to be part of the crowd walk away.
If you want the best knife for your money, maybe dont buy a Grimsmo knife. But if youre happy with your transaction, and you want to support the man making the product. Then give him your money.
You dont have to be the best to be on top. Sometimes, you can suck ass and still sell a lot of product (Cough, FORD).
Anyway, I sense a distain for the knife prior to your true assessment of the knife. So it makes it hard to trust this as a unbiased review. With that said, you have some good points that you were able to illustrate.
This is a product for a process enthusiast, and not a knife enthusiast. Good luck.
Brother i have a video about the flawed processes of the knife reviewer that I think you should watch.
Because in that video I state that i am forced to pick out all the little flaws, every issue that presents itself, even when in my humble opinion despite those issues I still enjoy the piece.
Disdain is a very incorrect way to express my feelings for the knife, the company or the man. I have bought multiples of this knife and while I very much enjoyed them, I didn't love them, but I did like them and I still do like them.
I think you need to tighten the pivot screw. Thats why you get a torx driver with it.
You sir are a genius, I never thought about that even though some guy who looks like me totally did that somewhere in this video. 😒 🤔
@@RedwolfEDC just saying, mine doesnt do that. So you either have a defect or you need to play with the screw. Even a rolex watch has to be repaired at times.
You actually see that exact issue with knives that run on the plastic washers and not bronze or bearings. I like that Knife it looks like a hard user. I just tried my Adamas and it has ZERO blade play any direction and butter smooth opening and drop. To be hand made and tested it shouldn’t have left with any issues I would think. I was reading on the RWL-34 and it apparently mimics cpm-154 and s30v is what owners of the Knife are saying. It just seems for the price it should be amazing and epic with every flip lol. I’ll stick with my Benchmade and cloth pouch mainly due to no way being able to afford a 1000 dollar knife. Stay safe my Friend
I couldn’t afford the knife, so I bought the pen!
I always wanted one of these and had so many opportunities to get one and now I'm glad I didn't thanks for the video
Well I must have got a good one,because mine has no blade play up or down or side to side ,also it has no bounce back when it closes,it actually has really good drop shot action. 💎
If you are willing to send it in and all of that is true I will happily make a video showcasing that brother. This wasn’t meant to cause controversy or to simply bash a brand, I have owned 4 of these, 3 direct from Grimsmo and the issues have been consistent in them all.
You notice no reply? It's a total RIP off of a knife... I have 200 dollar knives that will blow it out the water all day long... I have owned two of them
I have a Norseman (and a rask) and this video is misleading. I love it and carry it more than any other knife. And mine doesn’t do the double tap, and it has a perfect action.
John I don't know how to break this to you brother, but a broken clock is right twice a day, meaning even if something is completely broken that there will be times that despite it being broken, it still succeeds.
They make thousands of norsemens, probably 10's of thousands and if 95% of them are great then that 5% is still an extremely high number and it doesn't change the fact that being in that minority sucks. Your positive experience doesn't make someone's negative experience "misleading" that is some extremist snowflake mentality.
Now to be clear I have owned 4 of these knives and 4 of them had the exact same action and the exact same problem, which means that those QC issues are either (A) much higher then normal or (B) I have shit luck and neither A or B make this video misleading because this video is about my personal experience.
I know not all of these knives are bad, but the fact remains my experience was bad and that's all I am talking about.
Imho there ok not great or grail worthy there just ok I’ve owned several and simply put there just outclassed by so many other makers ps Norseman blade hop is annoying to say the least
Always Loved the norseman, but wouldn't shell out the chedda for it.
Thanks for showcasing it though, I still Love the looks.
Be safe.
Such a strange design. I hate the machine lines on the blade.
The double-dribble when the blade drops shut would drive me completely insane at any price. Your Seraphim Yakuza however is a true grail for me 🍻
What $40 knife is that?
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Thanks
Hi , what is the name of the Front Flipper custom you are showing in the video please ?
Seraphim knives Yakuza.
I wanted one until i watched this video just from hearing hype about it. this review changed my mind. id rather get a Shiro or Koenig
It's a bullshit review, they don't go out the door with all this bladeplay, not sure what type of person would supposedly buy 4 of these if this was the only reason they dropped shut. There are plenty of other "honest" reviews out there. This guy is full of it, notice no one else on here mentions blade play. People have commented that it doesn't happen even people that don't like the knife, im one of those people. Click bait garbage.
Thanks for the review...don't want one now.
Happy to save you some money brother.
I totally disagree with some of the things mentioned in the video. I own a Norsman, I love it, no its not perfect, perhaps not even my favourite piece. The tightening on the Pivot u did early is just nonesense. U either overtightened it or left it too loose. For every knife there is a sweet spot where u don't have to compromise for action but still have no blade play. Comparing the QSP with the action of the Norseman is just kind of ridiculous tbh. There are "Budget knives" with a comparable action, such as the North Arm Skaha, but it doesn't surpass the action of the Norseman by any means. I have perfect fall shut action (which is not a QC issue considering they modified even the detent by flattening it so it doesn't have to overcome that extra detent when closing( which might make it easier for the blade to do the double tap)tighten it slightly then, action won't get any worse and it wont bounce) with absolutely no blade play whatsoever. Mentioning that the accessory's only cost pennies to make seems unnecessary and kind of just desperate to point out something negative. How many knives come with these accessories. Usually only the very high end ones do. (Also Nano oil is a GREAT knife oil, its not just fancy looking). I understand the sentiment that this knife is CNC made and not handmade. But, its all about tolerances and accuracy with knives such as the Grimsmos or the Koenigs. This doesn't make them "worth less". I also don't think John Grimsmo is so wrong about them being like the Rolex of the Knife world. The Grimsmos made the best action in 2016-2017. Nothing rlly compared. They innovated. Also: Rolex doesn't innovate much anymore, many of their products are reruns with slight changes. But people don't mind, because there products is nonetheless still great.
but the case... its so nice... it comes with oil... a free sticker!! thanks for the video lol
Just adjust right,,,,and you obviously paid the money and sound bitter,,I'm sure you can auction it off for what you want
Bud I make 260k a year plus bonuses that range from an additional 60k to 85k that que up twice a year. A thousand bucks is a drop in the bucket to me, no bitterness at all, back then or now
@@RedwolfEDC wow,,,lucky you....I'm just a dumb machinist
I never took a deep dive into this knife because that blade shape is wack! And for that kind of money it better be freaking perfect.
I'd rather get a Holt than a Norseman.
Well said. The Shabazz hype is part of the marketing machine. Secondary prices have been plummeting on these. They once charged $500 for these before they jacked up the price without improving the quality.
Talk ur shit bro.. teach the youth
The bounce is easily fixed by adjusting the pivot.
The pivot was adjusted both on and off camera.
Couldn't ever get over the donkey dong blade shape. That's a lot of $ for a far from perfect knife. Sounds like a Shiro is a much better deal. Also packaging means nothing to me. Thanks KYLE