I have a Vren deck for Arena and commander. In Arena, I recently used Blasphemous Edict to wipe clean the creatures in the field and then brought back Vren and friends in one fell swoop. Outrageous and fun.
I had a similar issue with my Glissa, Sunslayer deck as it had the capacity to shut down enchantment decks from the command zone. Rats are a cool creature type to build around but maybe something like Wick, the Whorled Mind as the commander would be less oppressive and draw less pre-game hate due to not shutting down someones game plan. That would also take some of the need away for playing a lot of removal which could lead to better matchups in a casual pod.
I have previously pulled apart decks and even sold them for being too unfair because i used to play mostly in a casual strong environment. Lately that hasn't been the case and i have regretted doing so because my LGS has grown in cedh players. Ive been planing on building Vren and Winter, Misanthropic 😅😅😅
I cracked the special showcase Vren, so decided to build around him with a whole bunch of forced sac stuff (accursed marauder etc.). My pod absolutely hates it and for good reason. He completely nullifies entire game plans like graveyard decks, so it limits the game before it even begins. Definitely going to pull it apart and probably throw the Vren in my (way more fun) Wick rat deck.
My opinion is that this deck is designed for medium to higher power casual decks. On the power level system probably a 7 to 8.5, probably mostly an 8. The new bracket system should place it in bracket 3, in my opinion. If this is the only deck you have in that powerful range, you should keep it or tune it with "Leyline of the Void" effect so that you can bord wipe and then cast your commander. But if you're meta is mostly less powerful or people are not entirely enjoying the decks they are playing against it, that is just a bad Mach up. This is one of your decks and you have played it a few times now. You should ask your play group if they want to make decks that can handle the disruptive nature of this deck. If everyone doesn't have any ideas of a decks to play agents it and nothing beats it, it's just not for that playgroup and maybe at that point take it apart if you don't enjoy seeking out games for it.
If you wipe the board with your commander in play, then doesn't that prevent his first trigger (exile creatures that die), and therefore, prevents his second trigger, even if you re-cast?
If they don't like Vren, they should run more interaction and get past him or stop him from entering. They see the card in the command zone. It's not an eminence ability so they have a chance to combat it. You're fine running this card at my table.
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I have a Vren deck for Arena and commander. In Arena, I recently used Blasphemous Edict to wipe clean the creatures in the field and then brought back Vren and friends in one fell swoop. Outrageous and fun.
I had a similar issue with my Glissa, Sunslayer deck as it had the capacity to shut down enchantment decks from the command zone.
Rats are a cool creature type to build around but maybe something like Wick, the Whorled Mind as the commander would be less oppressive and draw less pre-game hate due to not shutting down someones game plan. That would also take some of the need away for playing a lot of removal which could lead to better matchups in a casual pod.
I started playing this, it's actually fine when people understand how to go around it. Could be salty yes, I play edicts to maximize token generation
I have previously pulled apart decks and even sold them for being too unfair because i used to play mostly in a casual strong environment. Lately that hasn't been the case and i have regretted doing so because my LGS has grown in cedh players.
Ive been planing on building Vren and Winter, Misanthropic 😅😅😅
I cracked the special showcase Vren, so decided to build around him with a whole bunch of forced sac stuff (accursed marauder etc.). My pod absolutely hates it and for good reason. He completely nullifies entire game plans like graveyard decks, so it limits the game before it even begins. Definitely going to pull it apart and probably throw the Vren in my (way more fun) Wick rat deck.
I did the exact same. I was even given a very sweet handwritten letter as part of a birthday gift that had a PS: Please stop playing Vren.
@@Beanie24😂
My opinion is that this deck is designed for medium to higher power casual decks. On the power level system probably a 7 to 8.5, probably mostly an 8. The new bracket system should place it in bracket 3, in my opinion. If this is the only deck you have in that powerful range, you should keep it or tune it with "Leyline of the Void" effect so that you can bord wipe and then cast your commander. But if you're meta is mostly less powerful or people are not entirely enjoying the decks they are playing against it, that is just a bad Mach up. This is one of your decks and you have played it a few times now. You should ask your play group if they want to make decks that can handle the disruptive nature of this deck. If everyone doesn't have any ideas of a decks to play agents it and nothing beats it, it's just not for that playgroup and maybe at that point take it apart if you don't enjoy seeking out games for it.
Gonna kill everyone with it, I was in a pod with Norin the worried.... It was insane
If you wipe the board with your commander in play, then doesn't that prevent his first trigger (exile creatures that die), and therefore, prevents his second trigger, even if you re-cast?
He is on the field when he sees everything dying. Everything gets exiled.
Just call it your warm up deck
If they don't like Vren, they should run more interaction and get past him or stop him from entering. They see the card in the command zone. It's not an eminence ability so they have a chance to combat it. You're fine running this card at my table.
Just take things like the massacre wurm and other non rats out and it wont be so oppressive
I dont think you know what ippressive looke like.
Cutting people out of the game and stopping them even being able to play is pretty oppressive dude.