I.managed to buy your exact Derwent mixed media pad. Today. Hobby craft have it ..also The Range..But H.craft..have it at half price!!! Now. .. A4 spiral exact same as your video..only £6.25..Now.. Helen..so maybe you can stock up !! I love it. As its more white. Than cotton paper.too..I. noticed the brighter white in your comparison video!! So thanks for tip. Do.you paint .Have any . animals video.??. Especially love cats & eyes..😁.. please!!
Mixed media paper has more sizing and a lot less (or no) cotton content. 100% cotton paper, though, is better for glazing, with Arches being the best, many say, for this technique. I like pure cotton better for dry (and wet granulating) texturing. I like mixed media for when I want my paint to float longer or when I’m tired. If I really want the colours to pop, I go with 100% cotton. I like both kinds of paper. It just depends on what I aim to be doing. Great vid showing the difference in behaviour of the papers. I’m sure it’ll help people make decisions.
I agree with the video maker. A true artist can create magic with a bed sheet and a peice of charcoal from a fire. Only half ass "artists" require the best of the best.
@@phillipstroll7385 As a half ass "artist," with vast experience in shopping for and organizing high end art materials but with little actual art to show for it, I heartily concur.
Interesting video! I have used mixed media paper a lot when trying out colors and techniques for practice, simply because the paper is less expensive. Now, I feel like I have "permission" to use this paper! Thanks for making this video!
Interesting difference. I actually started out doing mixed media, using the typical wire bound journals by Strathmore, Dina Wakley, Ranger etc. When I went to try my hand at watercolors (I'd typically been using acrylic paints, distress inks etc.), I didn't like using the mixed media paper as I felt like I had to work quickly or it'd look bad. I watched some videos on wet on wet watercolors, and heard about Arches paper. I got some Arches and using wet on wet for the larger areas, like sky backgrounds, my watercolor paint was much easier to work with and there was no anxiety to hurry before the paint dried and had lost its ability to be worked. So I'm staying with Arches for my watercolors ( it also makes the colors look brighter), and my mixed media journals for when I want to play with my acrylics, inks etc.
It’s interesting to see how each paper reacts to the paint. I use both arches cp and mm depending on my subject. I love them both but for different reasons. Thank you for your interesting comment x
Hello Helen, Thank you for your fantastic and informative tutorial. Your camera did show the difference perfectly; I far prefer the mixed media paper you demonstrated; the colours were sharper, didn't bleed, and the lift off was marvellous. I can't wait to try your recommendation. Xxx ❤
I see an additional benefit for me personally. I have this weird anxiety about wasting high quality art supplies so I imagine I will be able to practice more and be braver and have more fun if I'm just using mix media paper. Thank you! I'll try it right away!
I just bought a big pile of aquarel paper🙈 hope this summer to be making my own paper; because I spin yarn I have the fibers already in stock; now to study about the proportions to use
I've been using Strathmore Mixed Media paper (Visual Journal) for my first proper foray into watercolour. I've used Arches before, but felt I was wasting it with my novice abilities, so have switched to something more affordable that I can make a mess on :D
I think that visual journal is 100% cotton! I’m considering buying it for practice and random watercolor sketches. With your experience, do you think the paper absorbs water quickly? I like paper that allows for some working once the paint goes on.
@@krabfingers8473 Is it?? I never knew that, haha! Far more luxurious than I gave it credit for then :) I think the paper absorbs water yes, but you can still work with the paint for sure. I guess it depends on how wet you like to work. Ive had to get the hair dryer out because I'm super impatient!
The strathmore 500 mixed media paper is 100% cotton. It’s the same paper used in the strathmore mixed media journal. None of the other visual journals contain cotton paper. I’m using it in a drawing class and I’m mostly using it for pen&ink drawing but also a bit of work with watercolor pencils. After viewing this video I’ll have to experiment with adding real watercolor washes.
I thoroughly searched this paper out and for us in the US it's much less expensive to use cotton watercolor paper. I buy precut 5x7 30 pks for 5.99 and I paint on both sides. Canson is just 95lb 120gsm which is a good indication for why I don't like it but it's awesome for drawing 🎉 Thank you Rae for everything! See you around ❤
It’s great paper, but remember that it won’t be as robust as watercolour paper because it will start to disintegrate if you add too much water. It is, though, as mentioned in the video, really good for blending but go easy with it.
@@helencampbell I simply can't add it. In the USA it's VERY expensive. Cotton watercolor paper is far less. Amazon has it for 31.00 and 24.00 shipping! Thanks for going shopping with me ☺️
Daler Rowney being a British based company is probably cheaper for the mixed media paper. Unfortunately it is very expensive in Australia, and almost impossible to get. I have found a local cheaper watercolour paper that works more like this mixed media paper, and also have some Ohuhu paper that I like because it acts much like what I'm seeing with your mixed media paper. I like both of them more than arches for my style of painting. To me, arches is like trying to paint on blotting paper. Unfortunately Ohuhu only comes in one size, 14x10. I like A3 size, so use the local paper for that. I have splashed out and bought some Baohong paper which should arrive in the next week or so, and I'll see how I go with that. I did buy a different local brand watercolour paper which was on special and I bought 3 pads of it. Unfortunately it is horrible as it pills up if you put too much water on it, but I've found it is excellent for pastel pencils and a whole lot cheaper than ingres paper, so it won't go to waste. I must say I like Daler Rowney oil paint too, but then maybe I'm a bit biased as I was born in the town where it is made 🙂
Thank you for your comment. It’s funny isn’t it how we all have our favourites. When I started out I was painting on bockingford but now I dislike it. From there I went onto Saunders Waterford code press. Remember, it’s always what works best for you. X
With my style of painting, I really don't like Arches or 100% cotton paper. The colors look dull and the water soaks in too quickly. I wish people would stop saying it's the gold standard for everybody when it's not.
I use both if using more than one media but I still prefer my cp 140lb Lanaquarelle for traditional watercolor. I can work faster and most mixed media including the featured brand just doesn’t work with floating the pigments the same. It takes a long time for it to soak in and I preprime my paper to make sure my pigment will just fill in the wet surface and then figuring the time I have to drop in color just doesn’t work the same and glazing is the heart of wc techniques and it just isn’t the same on multimedia paper due to the sizing. For straight painting that’s fine or as a sketchbook but it’s true everyone has their preferences. But I am very familiar with this paper. For those who just strictly would be going into wc work or college, they would want specific techniques to be shown and in this case I still would recommend the best wc paper one can afford. Out of that environment definitely do as you like.
Very helpful. I struggle with making my watercolor paintings look blended and I sometimes go back and try to correct areas and end up lifting the paper. I’m excited to use mixed media paper. Thank you!
I'm tempted to try.it..Love wet in.wet. painting..!! Is it cellulose. !? Does it stay wet. ??? For wet I. Wet..& cauliflower tech unique ...I love. !? ?..😍😁
I forgot to say Hobbycraft has this paper on sale right now. A3 10 pounds. A4 6.25 and exclusive 40 sheets. About to buy some so don't be greedy 😄 and subbed.
I think the main difference here is the sizing of paper (mixmedia vs watercolour) and wood cellulose vs cotton paper. I think it really depends on the technique you are after - I am mostly using wood cellulose watercolour paper exactly because the lifting and other effect techniques are showing much better on it than on a cotton one. I do practice on Mixmedia (smooth surface) and watercolour student grade (rough surface) depending on what I am doing.
Thank you!!! I'm so over everyone thinking cotton paper is "better." It's only better if you paint in a style where you need the paint to quickly absorb. Cotton paper absorbs the paint too quickly for me and it doesn't lift as easily as cellulose paper. The paint is also less vibrant on 100% cotton paper. That's my experience with Arches anyway. I'll take Strathmore or even Canson over Arches any day. I have a ton of Arches wasting away in my studio because I don't like it but I think it's going to be great to use for my journal or to gesso over and use for my acrylic paints.
Thank you Helen - a really useful tip, especially as my watercolour skills are in need of improving. I shall certainly try this paper instead of struggling with the cotton botanical paper, as I often get discouraged...
Thank you for the intersting video! After a long time I started to paint again, and I use the Clairfontaine Mixed Media Multi Techniques 250gr Paper, wich is very good, because I draw the figures with pencil, Fineliner and dry Aquarellpencils, and the Background with Watercolor. Good results!
@@helencampbell Wow, you are fast😀to reply! Thank you very much! I look right now your video Botanical Painting, this is amazing and will try next. It reminds me to Albrecht Dürer, he also paint botanical things. You are as same as good! I myself like and try to paint Fantasy, comic stuff, but I have big problems with portraits and figures...sorry my bad english🤣. All the best for you and greetings from germany! sharky
I agree with you. I have never been a fan of arches and I love bright white paper and am a huge fan of Hot Press as I think you get nicer marks. Cartridge paper was my go to before this came along but of course it was perfect. Bx
Thank you for this tutorial, it was really interesting. I bought a DR pad of mixed media paper when you mentioned it on another video and I have to say I really love using it and it’s so affordable for such great quality. Thanks again for all your tips and help x
Once again a lovely and practical video. As a complete beginner, I SO appreciate tips that build-in quicker "successes." Blending has been a bit frustrating. I'm going to give this a try. Thank you!
I found this paper one time on Amazon US and it was gone next day $6. I think I found some again for $10 but I needed to be sure. I just noticed watercolor paper in full sheets have doubled in price. Yikes
Do you think a cold pressed paper would be a more comparable paper? I only ask because as I understand it hot pressed tends to be used for illustration and worked using tiny details not much wet on wet etc. I'd be interested to hear your thoughts
Thank you. The simple answer is, sort of. It depends on the quality of the paper. I frequently use cold pressed paper in my tutorials because I prefer it and I rather like the effect, because you can build up stronger colours. I plan to do a different tutorial on this. So in short, I would recommend the mixed media paper for newcomers, and coldpressed is my go to for stringer colours. I hope that makes sense. You are right in saying that the hot press paper is used for finer details such as illustration. I am a botanical illustrator by profession, but I still prefer cold press paper when I’m working on illustration work.
Ah I see thank you, still pretty new to watercolours, been using oils for years and took a long break. So I have loved getting back to creating again, oils aren't practical anymore, I have nowhere to leave an easel up now. Watercolours are so different but having fun learning x
I tend to find that hot press is less forgiving. Another factor is sizing-whole subject in itself!! If you really want a challenge, try rough. Its like painting in a rowboat, but really gives some wonderful effects. 😁
Wonderful comparison. I find cotton watercolor paper is perfect when working wet on wet, or even for total water submerging before painting. It also works well for a larger size works. Thank you for this
Hi, it would, but not as well because you wouldn’t get that blur and you need to make sure that the paper isn’t too wet because the paint will just float. It’s better that you give it a minute or so to sink into the paper a little bit if you want to work, wet and wet on this paper.
I used to absolutely love Canson illustration board. I just didn’t like cutting it down. So much easier to wet and tear watercolor paper. I use 140 lb. I prefer hot press but lately I’m trying cold press. I use bee cotton for practice but am loving Arches, canson heritage, and fluid. Found some old illustration board in a drawer though, and not gonna lie, I’m tempted to go back. I hear the newer stock is different sadly.
Thank you for your comment. I’ve never used illustration board but I’ve heard many people talk about it. You probably already realise that I’m not a fan of halfprice caper, but everybody has their favourites I guess. I’m really into the rough surface paper at the moment simply because I bought them by accident but I really love it
Very interesting video! I have a big pad of that mixed media paper and I love it so much! Very economical, takes a decent amount of water without buckling. I like practicing on it because I don't feel like I'm throwing money away. I've been having trouble doing more finished work on it because the layers lift and blend in a way I don't want them to. Maybe I need to fork out for some cotton paper for more finished work. That stickiness might be just what I need. Thanks for showing the comparison.
My pleasure. You are right. It can be tricky to add too many layers but it’s great for blending. I use this paper for tutorials that I know need an easy way to blend but cold pressed for the ‘heavier’ work since it’s more robust and takes more layers. Thank you for your comments x
Hot press offsite is more difficult to use with watercolors, but wonderful for gouache❤️ I will try the mix media, although I love do layers and layers in Arches cold press ❤️
I’m just wondering how mixed media paper compares to cold pressed paper which is the most commonly used cotton paper for watercolour. I would only use hot pressed for botanicals because with the flat surface paint sinks in and isn’t easily blended or lifted. Thanks for the tutorial, I’d be interested in a comparison of mixed media paper and cold pressed. Thanks in advance. X
Hi. It’s very different in that it doesn’t have the absorbency of cold press paper. It’s a double edged sword really because it means that it takes the paint longer to soak into the paper but it also makes blending easier. If you’re a new to painting, then I highly recommend mixed media paper for this very reason
Good advice. I am still very new. This my New Year 2022 resolve!!!! I am going to keep practicing. I have never watercolor painted before but I have sketched plenty. Your work is amazing!!!! May I ask, how long have you been painting? if I painted like you.....I would Never stop!!!!
@@helencampbell Well...I am 67 and I am determined to go for it!!!!! Oh!!! My gosh..it might take me till I am 80 before I get good!!!! I always wanted to do this and always have been drawn to flowers, plants and birds. Now I am retired and I have the time. I just read a book on "Grandma Moses", an American folk painter , she didn't start until she was 76!!!! I got 10 years on her!!...lololo I just don't want it to be one of those..."I should of could of!!!" I tried your rosebud and wellllll I need to work on it!!! I'm asking Santa for some multi paper and some decent brushes. I've been looking for one of those spotter brushes. They seem to give a person more control. Thanks for sharing all of beautiful works and helps.
My pleasure. Have you joined our Facebook group Addie? We are such a lovely community and everyone is super helpful and supportive with tips etc. you can have free line drawings and reference photos to get you started with our tutorials too xx
@@helencampbell errrgh!!! I don't do Facebook...I don't like Zuckerberg lololol No...I just don't trust it and then I would be on there when I could be practicing painting. I love TH-cam...lots of info on there. I did email you and you sent 3 of my requests of line drawings...thanks. I think the main problem is and I don't mean this lightly, your work is SOOOOO perfect. I went on TH-cam today looking for somebody that isn't that good!!! More for a real beginner. You would probably die of laughter if you saw my take on your rosebud. My neighbor said it wasn't too bad. Then I showed her yours and she said, "well keep practicing!!!" I will!!!!
Hey we all start somewhere. You should have seen my earlier attempts lol. Okay well if you want any of the love drawings then email me and I’ll send them. Thank you for your kind words xxxx
What are your thoughts on Strathmore Mixed Media? It's the 400 series with 15 sheets. I just got some and I feel like I might have wasted my money lol it puddles with watercolor so badly, blends horribly and the water just sits there and takes forever to dry.
I'm going to buy a DR mixed media pad to try, looks very interesting. Also I have a question about paints. For some reason, I'm not at all keen on Winsor & Newton but like Sennelier and Schmincke. Some time ago, Schmincke had a limited edition floral set, which I still have and like. Considering that I enjoy pinks and purples probably more than I should, which other Schmincke colours could I get to experiment with?
Hi. I also have that floral set in mention but it was a limited edition. I use it quite a lot in my tutorials and I list the colour separately because you can buy them as separate paints. I’m not terribly keen on Windsor and newton either. That’s just personal choice. To be honest, you don’t need an awful lot of things because you kind of course water down Reds to make a lovely pink tone. One of the colours I’ve been really drawn to all the time but I don’t use it a lot on my videos, is piementite genuine by Daniel Smith. It is a lovely pinky purply Browntown and it’s just divine.
@@helencampbell Yes, the piemontite is off the charts. I used up my first 5ml tube, now waiting to get a 15ml one, since Jackson's wants £9.30 for 5ml and £18 for 15ml, so thrice the amount of paint for twice the price.
Great video! Thanks for showing this comparison. I have a question though…I don’t quite understand what you mean when you say that you “can feel the paint sticking to the paper”. I associate sticking with, for instance, syrup or glue. Thanks 🙏 and I love 💕 your content!! 😃
Thank you. What I mean by sticking is quite simply you can feel the paint being absorbed into the paper, rather than being on the surface of it. It makes the blending process slightly harder. I hope this makes sense
Would you still need to stretch mixed media paper the same as cold pressed? I've just bought a pad since I saw this tutorial but now I wonder if plunging a sheet of it into water will remove the sizing mixed media paper has. Thank you!
Has anyone found a comparable US mixed media paper? Would be interested to know. Have been struggling with Helen Campbell videos when it comes to the blending because I am using hot press being a detail person...... help set me free!!!
My favorite mixed media sketchbook is the Aquabee super deluxe. I've been using them for 25+ years, mostly for watercolor and mixed watermedia. Everything from finished paintings to color tests and doodles. I don't know how to compare it with the Daler Rowney, as I haven't seen it available in the US. Canson XL mixed media isn't bad, either, but the weights of these papers are only 150 gsm. Would love to try the DR.
Hi the arches is hot pressed I compared the mixed media to hot pressed On this occasion, simply because a lot of botanical work is done on hot press paper and some people find it difficult to handle
Thank you for an interesting and informative video. Hobbycraft UK has Daler Rowney mixed media paper in their sale at the moment (Jan 22) - it has the same packaging as that in your video.
Yes and no. It depends what you mean. Generally speaking, if you’re selling art, ideally, it wants to be archival quality and acid free. If you’re selling at a craft fair or things like that, the generally speaking, it’s absolutely fine but just bear in mind that it can fade in time.
👏👏👏 Wonderful demo, Helen!! Well done!! It really allowed us all to see the difference in the two different types of paper, so that we don't have to do this kind of testing ourselves!! THANK-YOU so much for sharing this ❤️❤️❤️🤗🤗🤗
Hi Helen. Thank you for the great video. I am a little confused though. I have found a DR Optima Mixed Media paper, but when I click your link to what you use, it goes to a DR Fine Grain, Heavyweight Cartridge Pad. No mention on it being "mixed media". Can you confirm that this is what you use? I'd love to try some out. Thank you again and Happy New Year!!
@@helencampbell Hi Helen. Sorry, I got so wrapped up in links, etc. that I didn't pay attention to your holding up (more than once - ha ha), the pad of DR Optima MM paper in your video. Sooooo, I think I may have answered my own question. Thank you so much for your really quick reply. But, do know that the one link you provided does still go to the DR Fine Grain Catridge Pad. Have a lovely rest of your day! :-)
@@helencampbell Thank you, and that is good to know. However, I wanted what YOU used (smile), so I ordered some this morning. Though it has to come "a ross the pond", I will look forward to trying it out. Take good care and thank you again for your help and for sharing your knowledge and expertise in your wonderful videos!!
You first stated that your Arches was hot pressed, which I do not recommend for beginners either. Whilst demonstrating, you stated that the Arches is cold pressed. I am confused now, sorry.
What’s your favourite watercolour paper?
Saunders Waterford. But I'm more relaxed to paint. On cheaper paper.
@@joyousruby2967 I love Saunders Waterford too
I.managed to buy your exact Derwent mixed media pad. Today. Hobby craft have it ..also The Range..But H.craft..have it at half price!!! Now. .. A4 spiral exact same as your video..only £6.25..Now.. Helen..so maybe you can stock up !! I love it. As its more white. Than cotton paper.too..I. noticed the brighter white in your comparison video!! So thanks for tip. Do.you paint .Have any . animals video.??. Especially love cats & eyes..😁.. please!!
Hi Ruby. It’s great paper isn’t it. I love it. Oh I have just the thing for you
th-cam.com/video/FqzhgesjLYU/w-d-xo.html
I really want to make my own papers as I used to, also papyrus might be fun 😊
Mixed media paper has more sizing and a lot less (or no) cotton content. 100% cotton paper, though, is better for glazing, with Arches being the best, many say, for this technique. I like pure cotton better for dry (and wet granulating) texturing. I like mixed media for when I want my paint to float longer or when I’m tired. If I really want the colours to pop, I go with 100% cotton. I like both kinds of paper. It just depends on what I aim to be doing. Great vid showing the difference in behaviour of the papers. I’m sure it’ll help people make decisions.
Thank you
I agree with the video maker. A true artist can create magic with a bed sheet and a peice of charcoal from a fire. Only half ass "artists" require the best of the best.
@@phillipstroll7385 well said Philip😀
@@phillipstroll7385 As a half ass "artist," with vast experience in shopping for and organizing high end art materials but with little actual art to show for it, I heartily concur.
Strathmore 500 mixed media is 100%cotton, good value for practice.
Interesting video! I have used mixed media paper a lot when trying out colors and techniques for practice, simply because the paper is less expensive. Now, I feel like I have "permission" to use this paper! Thanks for making this video!
My pleasure. Go for it! Xx
Interesting difference. I actually started out doing mixed media, using the typical wire bound journals by Strathmore, Dina Wakley, Ranger etc. When I went to try my hand at watercolors (I'd typically been using acrylic paints, distress inks etc.), I didn't like using the mixed media paper as I felt like I had to work quickly or it'd look bad. I watched some videos on wet on wet watercolors, and heard about Arches paper. I got some Arches and using wet on wet for the larger areas, like sky backgrounds, my watercolor paint was much easier to work with and there was no anxiety to hurry before the paint dried and had lost its ability to be worked. So I'm staying with Arches for my watercolors ( it also makes the colors look brighter), and my mixed media journals for when I want to play with my acrylics, inks etc.
It’s interesting to see how each paper reacts to the paint. I use both arches cp and mm depending on my subject. I love them both but for different reasons. Thank you for your interesting comment x
..absolutely Fiona! I found the same with mixed media paper, but everyone's experience is different I guess.
Hello Helen, Thank you for your fantastic and informative tutorial. Your camera did show the difference perfectly; I far prefer the mixed media paper you demonstrated; the colours were sharper, didn't bleed, and the lift off was marvellous. I can't wait to try your recommendation. Xxx ❤
Thank you very much. Glad you found it helpful x
I see an additional benefit for me personally. I have this weird anxiety about wasting high quality art supplies so I imagine I will be able to practice more and be braver and have more fun if I'm just using mix media paper. Thank you! I'll try it right away!
I’m the same with the ‘good’ paper sometimes. Let me know how you get on x
I have found the total opposite to this.
I just bought a big pile of aquarel paper🙈 hope this summer to be making my own paper; because I spin yarn I have the fibers already in stock; now to study about the proportions to use
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I've been using Strathmore Mixed Media paper (Visual Journal) for my first proper foray into watercolour. I've used Arches before, but felt I was wasting it with my novice abilities, so have switched to something more affordable that I can make a mess on :D
I haven’t tried Strathmore but I’ve heard a lot about it. May give it a go
I think that visual journal is 100% cotton! I’m considering buying it for practice and random watercolor sketches. With your experience, do you think the paper absorbs water quickly? I like paper that allows for some working once the paint goes on.
@@krabfingers8473 Is it?? I never knew that, haha! Far more luxurious than I gave it credit for then :) I think the paper absorbs water yes, but you can still work with the paint for sure. I guess it depends on how wet you like to work. Ive had to get the hair dryer out because I'm super impatient!
The strathmore 500 mixed media paper is 100% cotton. It’s the same paper used in the strathmore mixed media journal. None of the other visual journals contain cotton paper. I’m using it in a drawing class and I’m mostly using it for pen&ink drawing but also a bit of work with watercolor pencils. After viewing this video I’ll have to experiment with adding real watercolor washes.
This is so so helpful. I have been enamored of 100% cotton paper for so lomg but now I see the advantage of mixed media paper.
Many thanks x
I thoroughly searched this paper out and for us in the US it's much less expensive to use cotton watercolor paper. I buy precut 5x7 30 pks for 5.99 and I paint on both sides. Canson is just 95lb 120gsm which is a good indication for why I don't like it but it's awesome for drawing 🎉 Thank you Rae for everything! See you around ❤
It’s great paper, but remember that it won’t be as robust as watercolour paper because it will start to disintegrate if you add too much water. It is, though, as mentioned in the video, really good for blending but go easy with it.
@@helencampbell I simply can't add it. In the USA it's VERY expensive. Cotton watercolor paper is far less. Amazon has it for 31.00 and 24.00 shipping! Thanks for going shopping with me ☺️
Daler Rowney being a British based company is probably cheaper for the mixed media paper. Unfortunately it is very expensive in Australia, and almost impossible to get. I have found a local cheaper watercolour paper that works more like this mixed media paper, and also have some Ohuhu paper that I like because it acts much like what I'm seeing with your mixed media paper. I like both of them more than arches for my style of painting. To me, arches is like trying to paint on blotting paper. Unfortunately Ohuhu only comes in one size, 14x10. I like A3 size, so use the local paper for that. I have splashed out and bought some Baohong paper which should arrive in the next week or so, and I'll see how I go with that. I did buy a different local brand watercolour paper which was on special and I bought 3 pads of it. Unfortunately it is horrible as it pills up if you put too much water on it, but I've found it is excellent for pastel pencils and a whole lot cheaper than ingres paper, so it won't go to waste.
I must say I like Daler Rowney oil paint too, but then maybe I'm a bit biased as I was born in the town where it is made 🙂
Thank you for your comment. It’s funny isn’t it how we all have our favourites. When I started out I was painting on bockingford but now I dislike it. From there I went onto Saunders Waterford code press. Remember, it’s always what works best for you. X
With my style of painting, I really don't like Arches or 100% cotton paper. The colors look dull and the water soaks in too quickly. I wish people would stop saying it's the gold standard for everybody when it's not.
Everyone has their favourites I guess. It’s important to use what works for us 🌸
I use both if using more than one media but I still prefer my cp 140lb Lanaquarelle for traditional watercolor. I can work faster and most mixed media including the featured brand just doesn’t work with floating the pigments the same. It takes a long time for it to soak in and I preprime my paper to make sure my pigment will just fill in the wet surface and then figuring the time I have to drop in color just doesn’t work the same and glazing is the heart of wc techniques and it just isn’t the same on multimedia paper due to the sizing. For straight painting that’s fine or as a sketchbook but it’s true everyone has their preferences. But I am very familiar with this paper. For those who just strictly would be going into wc work or college, they would want specific techniques to be shown and in this case I still would recommend the best wc paper one can afford. Out of that environment definitely do as you like.
so should mixed media paper be stretched first if you're using watercolor on it? I hate buckling
Hi. No. It will buckle but should flatten when dry. But I don’t stretch watercolor paper either
Very helpful. I struggle with making my watercolor paintings look blended and I sometimes go back and try to correct areas and end up lifting the paper. I’m excited to use mixed media paper. Thank you!
My pleasure. Let me know how you get on but go easy with blending. Too much pressure and the paper could break down a bit
I'm tempted to try.it..Love wet in.wet. painting..!! Is it cellulose. !? Does it stay wet. ??? For wet I. Wet..& cauliflower tech unique ...I love. !?
?..😍😁
Gosh I’m not sure. It’s just acid free mixed media
HI Helen, would you recommend Faber-Castell Creative Studio Mixed Media Pad for beginner? Jacksons don't seem to have this now
I haven’t used that brand but generally Faber are very good so should be great
@@helencampbell thx, now back to the tuts :)
I forgot to say Hobbycraft has this paper on sale right now. A3 10 pounds. A4 6.25 and exclusive 40 sheets. About to buy some so don't be greedy 😄 and subbed.
Thank you😀. I actually need more so I’ll go tomorrow but me going to hobbycraft to get just one thing? 🤔. Hmmm 😂. I’d better take cash lol
@@helencampbell 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I think the main difference here is the sizing of paper (mixmedia vs watercolour) and wood cellulose vs cotton paper. I think it really depends on the technique you are after - I am mostly using wood cellulose watercolour paper exactly because the lifting and other effect techniques are showing much better on it than on a cotton one. I do practice on Mixmedia (smooth surface) and watercolour student grade (rough surface) depending on what I am doing.
It really has a bearing. The paper. I suppose we all have our favourite ones and our own way of working. X
Thank you!!! I'm so over everyone thinking cotton paper is "better." It's only better if you paint in a style where you need the paint to quickly absorb. Cotton paper absorbs the paint too quickly for me and it doesn't lift as easily as cellulose paper. The paint is also less vibrant on 100% cotton paper. That's my experience with Arches anyway. I'll take Strathmore or even Canson over Arches any day. I have a ton of Arches wasting away in my studio because I don't like it but I think it's going to be great to use for my journal or to gesso over and use for my acrylic paints.
My absolute pleasure. It what works for you. Happy new year x
Do you stretch the mixed media paper as you would with watercolor paper?
Hi. No, but I never stretch my watercolour paper to be honest.
Thank you Helen - a really useful tip, especially as my watercolour skills are in need of improving. I shall certainly try this paper instead of struggling with the cotton botanical
paper, as I often get discouraged...
Thank you. Let me know how you get on
I think since you're not using a lot of water it works well. Going to try this. Thank you
Let me know how you get on
I think cold press paper is better for watercolour medium
I love cold pressed too
Great video!! May ask, do you stretch the mixed media paper like you would watercolor paper?
Hi. Thank you. No. No need. Mm paper won’t take large washes well but it’s great for this type of work
@@helencampbell ok thanks for your quick reply, I appreciate it
Just a heads up for people watching in the US: this paper is hard to find!
Thanks. There’s a ton of mixed media paper available and I’m pretty sure there’s a close alternative that will work just as well
Thank you for the intersting video! After a long time I started to paint again, and I use the Clairfontaine Mixed Media Multi Techniques 250gr Paper, wich is very good,
because I draw the figures with pencil, Fineliner and dry Aquarellpencils, and the Background with Watercolor. Good results!
Thank you. I haven’t used it for a while. Definitely need to revisit
@@helencampbell Wow, you are fast😀to reply! Thank you very much! I look right now your video Botanical Painting, this is amazing and will try next. It reminds me to Albrecht Dürer, he also paint botanical things. You are as same as good! I myself like and try to paint Fantasy, comic stuff, but I have big problems with portraits and figures...sorry my bad english🤣. All the best for you and greetings from germany! sharky
@@sharky9493
Thank you.
And it’s my absolute pleasure
@@helencampbell 😘Thanks you, made a abo!
Thanks for this side by side comparison. I like the look of the mixed media better too.
Thank you
My preferred is mixed media but I didn’t know why. Thanks for that.
You’re welcome
I agree with you. I have never been a fan of arches and I love bright white paper and am a huge fan of Hot Press as I think you get nicer marks. Cartridge paper was my go to before this came along but of course it was perfect. Bx
Merry Christmas, Helen!
Here is a video just for you
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In kindred spirit
Eliza
Australia x
Thank you for this tutorial, it was really interesting. I bought a DR pad of mixed media paper when you mentioned it on another video and I have to say I really love using it and it’s so affordable for such great quality. Thanks again for all your tips and help x
My pleasure. It’s really great paper and as you say, really affordable. Xx
Once again a lovely and practical video. As a complete beginner, I SO appreciate tips that build-in quicker "successes." Blending has been a bit frustrating. I'm going to give this a try. Thank you!
Thank you xx
Is the dalwer Rowley mixed media paper cold or hot pressed?
This one is cold
I found this paper one time on Amazon US and it was gone next day $6. I think I found some again for $10 but I needed to be sure. I just noticed watercolor paper in full sheets have doubled in price. Yikes
A very interesting video. Thanks 💜🌹
My pleasure x
Thankyou
Do you think a cold pressed paper would be a more comparable paper? I only ask because as I understand it hot pressed tends to be used for illustration and worked using tiny details not much wet on wet etc. I'd be interested to hear your thoughts
Thank you. The simple answer is, sort of. It depends on the quality of the paper. I frequently use cold pressed paper in my tutorials because I prefer it and I rather like the effect, because you can build up stronger colours. I plan to do a different tutorial on this. So in short, I would recommend the mixed media paper for newcomers, and coldpressed is my go to for stringer colours. I hope that makes sense. You are right in saying that the hot press paper is used for finer details such as illustration. I am a botanical illustrator by profession, but I still prefer cold press paper when I’m working on illustration work.
Ah I see thank you, still pretty new to watercolours, been using oils for years and took a long break. So I have loved getting back to creating again, oils aren't practical anymore, I have nowhere to leave an easel up now. Watercolours are so different but having fun learning x
@@artatjules once you get used to watercolour it’s such an incredible medium to work with. I’m sure you’ll love it
I tend to find that hot press is less forgiving. Another factor is sizing-whole subject in itself!!
If you really want a challenge, try rough. Its like painting in a rowboat, but really gives some wonderful effects. 😁
I completely agree with you. I’ve started using rough recently and I love it. And as for hot press. Arrgggggghhh
Wonderful comparison. I find cotton watercolor paper is perfect when working wet on wet, or even for total water submerging before painting. It also works well for a larger size works. Thank you for this
My pleasure x
Would wet on wet still work
Hi, it would, but not as well because you wouldn’t get that blur and you need to make sure that the paper isn’t too wet because the paint will just float. It’s better that you give it a minute or so to sink into the paper a little bit if you want to work, wet and wet on this paper.
I used to absolutely love Canson illustration board. I just didn’t like cutting it down. So much easier to wet and tear watercolor paper. I use 140 lb. I prefer hot press but lately I’m trying cold press. I use bee cotton for practice but am loving Arches, canson heritage, and fluid. Found some old illustration board in a drawer though, and not gonna lie, I’m tempted to go back. I hear the newer stock is different sadly.
Thank you for your comment. I’ve never used illustration board but I’ve heard many people talk about it. You probably already realise that I’m not a fan of halfprice caper, but everybody has their favourites I guess. I’m really into the rough surface paper at the moment simply because I bought them by accident but I really love it
Very interesting video! I have a big pad of that mixed media paper and I love it so much! Very economical, takes a decent amount of water without buckling. I like practicing on it because I don't feel like I'm throwing money away. I've been having trouble doing more finished work on it because the layers lift and blend in a way I don't want them to. Maybe I need to fork out for some cotton paper for more finished work. That stickiness might be just what I need.
Thanks for showing the comparison.
My pleasure. You are right. It can be tricky to add too many layers but it’s great for blending. I use this paper for tutorials that I know need an easy way to blend but cold pressed for the ‘heavier’ work since it’s more robust and takes more layers. Thank you for your comments x
Hot press offsite is more difficult to use with watercolors, but wonderful for gouache❤️ I will try the mix media, although I love do layers and layers in Arches cold press ❤️
I also love arches cold press. It’s great for building darker colours too 😘
I’m just wondering how mixed media paper compares to cold pressed paper which is the most commonly used cotton paper for watercolour. I would only use hot pressed for botanicals because with the flat surface paint sinks in and isn’t easily blended or lifted. Thanks for the tutorial, I’d be interested in a comparison of mixed media paper and cold pressed. Thanks in advance. X
Hi. It’s very different in that it doesn’t have the absorbency of cold press paper.
It’s a double edged sword really because it means that it takes the paint longer to soak into the paper but it also makes blending easier. If you’re a new to painting, then I highly recommend mixed media paper for this very reason
Good advice. I am still very new. This my New Year 2022 resolve!!!! I am going to keep practicing. I have never watercolor painted before but I have sketched plenty. Your work is amazing!!!! May I ask, how long have you been painting? if I painted like you.....I would Never stop!!!!
That’s very kind. I’m 57 and started 12 years ago. I’m self taught and have been teaching art for ten years. Go for it x
@@helencampbell Well...I am 67 and I am determined to go for it!!!!! Oh!!! My gosh..it might take me till I am 80 before I get good!!!! I always wanted to do this and always have been drawn to flowers, plants and birds. Now I am retired and I have the time. I just read a book on "Grandma Moses", an American folk painter , she didn't start until she was 76!!!! I got 10 years on her!!...lololo I just don't want it to be one of those..."I should of could of!!!" I tried your rosebud and wellllll I need to work on it!!! I'm asking Santa for some multi paper and some decent brushes. I've been looking for one of those spotter brushes. They seem to give a person more control. Thanks for sharing all of beautiful works and helps.
My pleasure. Have you joined our Facebook group Addie? We are such a lovely community and everyone is super helpful and supportive with tips etc. you can have free line drawings and reference photos to get you started with our tutorials too xx
@@helencampbell errrgh!!! I don't do Facebook...I don't like Zuckerberg lololol No...I just don't trust it and then I would be on there when I could be practicing painting. I love TH-cam...lots of info on there. I did email you and you sent 3 of my requests of line drawings...thanks. I think the main problem is and I don't mean this lightly, your work is SOOOOO perfect. I went on TH-cam today looking for somebody that isn't that good!!! More for a real beginner. You would probably die of laughter if you saw my take on your rosebud. My neighbor said it wasn't too bad. Then I showed her yours and she said, "well keep practicing!!!" I will!!!!
Hey we all start somewhere. You should have seen my earlier attempts lol. Okay well if you want any of the love drawings then email me and I’ll send them. Thank you for your kind words xxxx
Thanks for the video. I like your art style very much! It would be nice if you can recommend a brand that is more available on the US market.
Thank you. You should be able to get this brand in the US. Blick have quite a few different brands. Strathmore are good
Ok so in essence, you cotton paper absorbs much much quicker so it's less forgiving
Exactly
Is it hot pressed or cold pressed watercolor paper, you have said it is both in the tutorial.thank you
Sorry it’s hot pressed
What are your thoughts on Strathmore Mixed Media? It's the 400 series with 15 sheets. I just got some and I feel like I might have wasted my money lol it puddles with watercolor so badly, blends horribly and the water just sits there and takes forever to dry.
I haven’t used that brand I’m afraid. What I will say about mm paper is that you don’t need too much water and use a light touch when you blend x
@@helencampbell I shall try. I failed hard on this iris I tried to do lol my grandmother loves them though so I will persevere.
They sell the mixed media paper you like at The Range and Hobbycraft.
Thank you Josie
Hobbycraft is selling this mixed media paper. Just in case you are interested 😊
Thank you
Hobbycraft sell the Daler Rowney mixed media paper
Thank you
I'm going to buy a DR mixed media pad to try, looks very interesting.
Also I have a question about paints. For some reason, I'm not at all keen on Winsor & Newton but like Sennelier and Schmincke. Some time ago, Schmincke had a limited edition floral set, which I still have and like. Considering that I enjoy pinks and purples probably more than I should, which other Schmincke colours could I get to experiment with?
Hi. I also have that floral set in mention but it was a limited edition. I use it quite a lot in my tutorials and I list the colour separately because you can buy them as separate paints. I’m not terribly keen on Windsor and newton either. That’s just personal choice. To be honest, you don’t need an awful lot of things because you kind of course water down Reds to make a lovely pink tone. One of the colours I’ve been really drawn to all the time but I don’t use it a lot on my videos, is piementite genuine by Daniel Smith. It is a lovely pinky purply Browntown and it’s just divine.
@@helencampbell Yes, the piemontite is off the charts. I used up my first 5ml tube, now waiting to get a 15ml one, since Jackson's wants £9.30 for 5ml and £18 for 15ml, so thrice the amount of paint for twice the price.
Will this paper stay flat if not taped down?hmm I could turn into block.
If working on a painting I’d tape to my watercolour board
Great video! Thanks for showing this comparison. I have a question though…I don’t quite understand what you mean when you say that you “can feel the paint sticking to the paper”. I associate sticking with, for instance, syrup or glue. Thanks 🙏 and I love 💕 your content!! 😃
Thank you.
What I mean by sticking is quite simply you can feel the paint being absorbed into the paper, rather than being on the surface of it. It makes the blending process slightly harder. I hope this makes sense
Some brand has mixed media for 100% cotton, like strathmore
Ah right. Thank you
This is so correct. I’m going to try the mixed media paper.
Would you still need to stretch mixed media paper the same as cold pressed? I've just bought a pad since I saw this tutorial but now I wonder if plunging a sheet of it into water will remove the sizing mixed media paper has. Thank you!
No. No need
@@helencampbell Thank you Helen!
The advantage that I find in lesser quality paper is is that it teaches not to fiddle which is highly beneficial when using high quality paper.
Exactly.
Most watercolorosts even say hot press is harder to,work,with than cold pressed.
I agree. I used to work on hot pressed all then time. Not cold pressed is one of my go to papers.
Has anyone found a comparable US mixed media paper? Would be interested to know. Have been struggling with Helen Campbell videos when it comes to the blending because I am using hot press being a detail person...... help set me free!!!
You could try any inexpensive watercolour paper. One of the ones that isn’t 100% cotton. That may work better
My favorite mixed media sketchbook is the Aquabee super deluxe. I've been using them for 25+ years, mostly for watercolor and mixed watermedia. Everything from finished paintings to color tests and doodles. I don't know how to compare it with the Daler Rowney, as I haven't seen it available in the US. Canson XL mixed media isn't bad, either, but the weights of these papers are only 150 gsm. Would love to try the DR.
Oh I have never heard if it. Another one I’d like to try. I’m always on the look out for new supplies. I just can’t help myself lol x
I would have rather seen a comparison to cold press paper not hot press watercolor paper.
Thank you. Noted
I thought you said the Arches paper was hot press. Is it important?
Hi the arches is hot pressed I compared the mixed media to hot pressed On this occasion, simply because a lot of botanical work is done on hot press paper and some people find it difficult to handle
wow, you made me a believer. TFS
Thank you for an interesting and informative video. Hobbycraft UK has Daler Rowney mixed media paper in their sale at the moment (Jan 22) - it has the same packaging as that in your video.
Thank you 😀
Thanks 😊
This is a very useful recommendation. Thank you Helen.
My pleasure
The mixed media seems to act like hot press watercolor paper? No?
Not really. But I guess it depends on the brand. The mm paper is far less absorbent which is why it’s easier to handle
Is mixed media paper ok for saleable art?
Yes and no. It depends what you mean. Generally speaking, if you’re selling art, ideally, it wants to be archival quality and acid free. If you’re selling at a craft fair or things like that, the generally speaking, it’s absolutely fine but just bear in mind that it can fade in time.
@@helencampbell is there such a thing as archival mixed media paper?
@stephengriffin2188 no. I don’t think so but if you were going down the print route you could get the work printed on archival paper
@@helencampbell Thanks for your advice. Much appreciated.
@@stephengriffin2188 no problem. Good luck with the sales x
I was taught to wet the entire cotton paper and let dry before ever starting any art.
Everybody has their own ways of working so you have to do what works best for you
👏👏👏 Wonderful demo, Helen!! Well done!! It really allowed us all to see the difference in the two different types of paper, so that we don't have to do this kind of testing ourselves!! THANK-YOU so much for sharing this ❤️❤️❤️🤗🤗🤗
My absolute pleasure. Thank you Dr Bee xxxx
That’s the paper I use it’s a nice weight as well 👍🏻
It’s great isn’t it ?😀
❤
Which is more prone to blooms?
It depends. Rather more importantly how you apply the paint.
Hi Helen. Thank you for the great video. I am a little confused though. I have found a DR Optima Mixed Media paper, but when I click your link to what you use, it goes to a DR Fine Grain, Heavyweight Cartridge Pad. No mention on it being "mixed media". Can you confirm that this is what you use? I'd love to try some out. Thank you again and Happy New Year!!
Gosh I’m sorry I’ll double check the link but it’s definitely DR optima mixed media paper x
@@helencampbell Hi Helen. Sorry, I got so wrapped up in links, etc. that I didn't pay attention to your holding up (more than once - ha ha), the pad of DR Optima MM paper in your video. Sooooo, I think I may have answered my own question. Thank you so much for your really quick reply. But, do know that the one link you provided does still go to the DR Fine Grain Catridge Pad. Have a lovely rest of your day! :-)
No problem. The one in the link is okay tho
@@helencampbell Thank you, and that is good to know. However, I wanted what YOU used (smile), so I ordered some this morning. Though it has to come "a ross the pond", I will look forward to trying it out. Take good care and thank you again for your help and for sharing your knowledge and expertise in your wonderful videos!!
Aww you’ll love it I’m sure
Great video. Thank you.
Thank you
Great to know!
Thank you
Thank you!!!!
Here’s the video I mentioned th-cam.com/video/cNzNFmh2paQ/w-d-xo.html
You first stated that your Arches was hot pressed, which I do not recommend for beginners either. Whilst demonstrating, you stated that the Arches is cold pressed. I am confused now, sorry.
My mistake. It’s hot pressed.