After spending multiple days trying to make storm's edge not feel like trash, it's kind of demoralizing to see how you can't make song of flame bad even if you try. Edit: obv I'm talking about pve.
If what I heard is correct, the damage resistance for song of flame is around 90% for yourself and around 30% for allies. So if you plop down a touch of flame speaker turret and then use ur super whilst using the support frame auto, you basically have a better well that can still put in good damage as long as the nades can still hit
Just did Crota and nobody died during the final boss with my speakers build. It’s definitely better than playing well. You get to do dps and heal and give DR. I used to love the well but this healing build is just better for neutral gameplay and dps phases.
@@84coti I'm so glad we have something else that's WAY more fun to use than well, I mean we felt like we HAD to use well before, now we get a damage/combat super that's also supporting and SUPER fun to use lol
"We got a Well-lock?" "Don't need one any more." "Do you have Well?" "Yes but this is better for damage and heali..." "I don't care, put on Well." "But you'll live longer with this and deal mo..." "Ugh get out, we'll find a Well."
@@igloo6068I technically got kicked from a group while flying in. I’m not sure what happened to the op, but I’m pretty sure this is the reason I was kicked.
@@igloo6068 yes, unless you're running what is BELIEVED to be the meta, you can get kicked or at least shouted at quite easily, especially if it's been a long raid and people have been messing up before and it's taking 3, 4 hours to finish. You can do the raid in around an hour with a team that knows everything and has great DPS from everyone. 9/10 though you get annoyed people who want to be as quick as possible and if you aren't running what they perceive as quick or best or meta, they want you out.
If you use Touch of Flame the Restoration x2 from throwing the healing grenade works with the healing turret. So once the auto is fixed you can still get that buff
bruh that's just overkill at that point, although it's kinda funny that stacking all of this is actually better than well since you aren't stuck to the circle and can move, bungie has a funny way of nerfing things, i guess the trade-off is well was just a super whereas to match it you have to stack a lot of stuff, which is reasonable imo
@@dankerbell lets make well a more offensive option while giving you a better offensive option with song of flame, classic bungie, they should make well the defensive one with huge DR and healing and song with no DR and big damage buff
idk song is like 10x better for trials....its mobile allows you to have your weapons and a highly elevated variant of your neutral kit. on top of that you get a better DR for you and the team that can be brought with you around the .map..... well skating is another story which has its own niche in concept for speed running@@OthersideSparrow
Worth mentioning, this works for ranged boss fights as well if you just use celestial fire. I ran this for first boss on contest as the tractor player with apotheosis veil and it perma stunlocks for the entire damage phase.
I've been doing the same since I've gotten my hands on Speaker's Helm. After half a decade or so, I can finally play warlock the way I first thought the class was supposed to be. The call, No Hesitation, Tractor, Gally, Dragon's Breath have been my go to weapons for it. The Edge of Intent (Warlock Glaive) might be a good idea too, especially on double special loadouts.
well of radiance also does something pretty awewsome by generating 3 orbs on placement which give everyone max surges for DPS AND it starts regening a ssoonas you place it down which usually means you end the damage phase with like half of your well back if not more, i dunno i still think well is pretty strong i dont think song of flame is a 100% replacement but it is cool
@@Black2overlord ye i agree its cool i just think way to many people are jumping the gun on well and disregarding it after the nerfs weirdly enough for a version of the super with less range less uptime, higher cooldown, no healing, for 20% more DR (?) Well is still way better in most situations imo, including witness especially after the lingering radiant buff
never thought id see the day but this is litteraly a healer for dps. not just a throw down a well and back to beeing a dps. hope the titan players get to actually be tanks soon.
What they should have done was cut the healing in half, bring the dr against bosses down to 25 instead of 10, and then move the damage buff to phoenix protocol. Making the radiance longer upon leaving the well just means they literally moved bubbles functionality to well
Song of flames is the new Starfire Protocol but for the whole fireteam, when someone pops SOF everyone should start throwing their Grenades and Melee abilities while using weapons
With the final shape the changes made it so Warlocks have a clear team roll as support, hunters have a clear team roll as DPS, and titans have a clear roll of... Being a ball and chain.... Hopefully this gets fixed. Class identity matters.
I think they’re trying to push Titans into providing DR to the team (overshields and woven mail) but they’re currently too limited in that regard. Here’s hoping they’re addressed soon!
Worth pointing out, enhanced physic giving restoration x 2 is not intended, it's only supposed to give x 1 for a longer duration (was mentioned a few twabs back)... doesn't move the needle much, but still
Don’t forget that while using Hellion aspect + Embers of Ashes and Benevolence, you can pretty much spam your class ability (rift or phoenix dive) during a boss damage phase and have infinite Solar buddy uptime.
Heat rises with touch of flame when using song of flame gives you the option to be a mobile well. You burst heal then give ×2 restoration every 2 seconds while at the same time making everyone radiant.
Also touch of flame speakers sight does grant rest x2 both to your healing grenade and to the healing turret of the edge of intent so potentially you can spam the battle field with rest x2 turrets it's actually a lot of fun
I really hope they continue down this path, maybe make titan lean towards a tanking role? But maybe with agro fragments, a spam able shield etc. The fact it has a skill game is so much better now
Keep in mind, enhanced physic was only supposed to make restoration last longer and only have x1. It’s a bugged they’re planning on fixing since enhanced gives x2 resto. (Which is not intended)
Try a 1-2 Punch Shotty, with a Apotheosis and Syntho class item. With Song of flame... the 1-2 Punch shotty Stacks with the Song of Flame Melee, on top of Radiant. The shotty Damage and the Melee damage boost is great, add Syntho for the melee boost, and Apotheosis to keep the melee loop going for a little longer after super ends. The combo works well, cause the time it takes to shoot the shotty and reload a shot, is enough time for the Song of Flame melee to charge back up. Having alot of fun with this build for damage.
I think Bungie may buff Well a little in the future, but that may be years from now. Maybe they'll do something more with reworking Well to better define Well of Radiance, as the Super for healer builds, and Song of Flame as the Super for support/buff/DPS builds. Hunters and Titans can be Supporters/Healers, but the best at that, would be Warlocks with their variety.
Glaives also gain scorch on the melee attack. 6 hits cause ignitions, been pairing it with winterbite to get ignitions and shatters at the same time. Does more damage then using just abilities during Song of Flame.
correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't song of flame make nearby allies radiant on its own? if true, this removes the need for ember of torches unless you enter damage without your super and need another way to apply radiant, and it lengthens your super overall because you aren't spending energy on melees.
sof last about as long as well 25s and 15/16s if spamming, you also get 90% dr and give 30% dr to teammates, and radiant is always active as long as sof is. The only thing WoR excels at is the AOE in which raidant gets applied bc of the diameter being wide, on top of being able to go outside of the diameter to have continued uptime. the dr suffers in comparison. you can't really move with it, and you can get resto on prismatic and solar.
A really interesting idea I had while watching this is using Lament + Song of Flame, does Lament apply scorch stacks too? It could be really interesting for sword DPS on bosses like Crota where you get a long, melee range damage phase, using two lights and one heavy already deals good damage, so adding scorch and ignitions to that + the 90% DR and the healing effects of a healing turret + Lament you should be pretty safe overall, this also made me think of the OG Demo rocket damage rotation what with all the grenade spam you can do with Song of Flame. I really wanna try out both
Wings of Sacred Dawn, microcosm, Permeability sidearm rocket, the supremacy sniper with rewind/K-Tremors, and use the super song of flame, phoenix dive, aspect hellion, fragments - ember of benevolence, singeing, empyrean, and solace. 100 resilience and high as possible intellect and I think this could be the next don't die at the witness DPS phase also just float in the air the whole time. Hellion stays up almost infinite I have phoenix dive back usually 5 seconds before it runs out also scout rifle Transfiguration with rewind and explosive never runs out of ammo so you could be a AC-130 The whole time lmao
Not only did they nerf well, but they gave us a cracked out version of it just without the healing… I definitely see them nerfing song of flame eventually
I don’t think you need Touch of Flame on this build, because the speaker turret will only give you 1x restoration with or without it. Could sub in Icarus for movement or Heat Rise for melee regen in the neutral game easily.
I do still feel there is a place for well, especially in a place with suppression, or situations where a stomp scatters people might scatter the source of healing and now someone’s down, but it is nice having a more hands on more effective option, though i dont think it’ll be as clear to people, especially with how fast you can lose yr super depends on how much abilities you use
Song of flame with star eater apotheosis and tractor is so good. You do similar damage to teammates with swords on that first boss in SE and your running tractor.
I don't understand why you chose to include the 10% support frame buff in song of flame but not well? What stops you from using the support frame AR in well also?
Can you please test how much scorch you apply or how many ignitions or just how much damage you get if you use a caster frame polaris lance perk Ergo Sum with someone else providing wolfpack rounds to it? From this you've shown that each wolfpack round applies scorch and it SHOULD also accelerate the Polaris Lance trigger and possibly even apply scorch per DoT tick from the heavy attack. From a pure damage perspective it might even be worth running Dawn Chorus although obviously the Speaker Mask is better for team situations. Only downside there is you really want to play Prismatic for the boost while Transcendent on Ergo Sum.
From my testing is you would still want another Warlock on well if one is running SoF just to get those quick orbies and more buffs but if im the only warlock i run SoF unless they want well. But yeah i love SoF and has allowed me to LFG the GM to easy success. Speakers mask+SoF= Beast mode, and with SoF i can be mobile
I like Well. I think it’s super cool. I really wish Bungie could balance. Instead of saying “hey there’s 3 options for you to use here, but using anything other than this 1 right here is throwing the game.”
I just want Starfire back man. Hunters have the most forehead easy 7 mil load out with just a special weapon, the least Bungie could do is give me Starfire back, especially now that you really can't use well for it anymore
I haven't played final shape yet. Would running celestial fire make a difference for ranged fights while in song of flame? Incinerator snap still seems to have a lot of fall off even while juiced by the super. Or does the song of flame convert your melee ability??
It's automatically changes to snap in the super but it's upgraded. The range is slightly longer, the tracking is more aggressive, and it launches like twice as many projectiles
Been using necrotic grips and star eaters class item. Get super damage and my super melee spreads poison on top of it. Super potent. Use devour and arc slide melee and just poison everything and heal off of kills. Been in love since i have put it on.
been using this build though with a witherhoard and apex with demo so i could fire all my shots without ever needing to reload. Would using Gally do better damage then a apex demo to spam rockets during song of flame? thos woldpack rocket ignitions out pacing bait and switch apex with no reloads? if so, then cool, I can bring gally and not feel like I do zero damage lol. and i guess I can use the new area denial frame over witherhorde then
If you are not on G-horn you could also use Apex predator with demolitionist instead of reconstruct and just abuse the grenade Regen song of flame offers.
Just saying you can face tank the witness beam attacks during dps with max resilience and 3 solar surge mods and a well. Just jump over the big attack.
90% dr in song of flame, 30% for nearby teammates
Deadass?
@@Unforgivennseems like it
@@Unforgivenn yes sir
@@Unforgivennyea song is busted. Cant die if you are the casting warlock
After spending multiple days trying to make storm's edge not feel like trash, it's kind of demoralizing to see how you can't make song of flame bad even if you try.
Edit: obv I'm talking about pve.
If what I heard is correct, the damage resistance for song of flame is around 90% for yourself and around 30% for allies. So if you plop down a touch of flame speaker turret and then use ur super whilst using the support frame auto, you basically have a better well that can still put in good damage as long as the nades can still hit
this whole setup plus tractor is so fun. ultimate support role
Just did Crota and nobody died during the final boss with my speakers build. It’s definitely better than playing well. You get to do dps and heal and give DR. I used to love the well but this healing build is just better for neutral gameplay and dps phases.
@@84coti I'm so glad we have something else that's WAY more fun to use than well, I mean we felt like we HAD to use well before, now we get a damage/combat super that's also supporting and SUPER fun to use lol
"We got a Well-lock?" "Don't need one any more." "Do you have Well?" "Yes but this is better for damage and heali..." "I don't care, put on Well." "But you'll live longer with this and deal mo..." "Ugh get out, we'll find a Well."
did this really happen
@@igloo6068I technically got kicked from a group while flying in. I’m not sure what happened to the op, but I’m pretty sure this is the reason I was kicked.
@@stevenririe7183 dudeeee i’m sorry, there are good groups out there trust u just gotta find them 🙏🙏
This is what happens. They just aren't ready to listen to.Well is not great now.
@@igloo6068 yes, unless you're running what is BELIEVED to be the meta, you can get kicked or at least shouted at quite easily, especially if it's been a long raid and people have been messing up before and it's taking 3, 4 hours to finish. You can do the raid in around an hour with a team that knows everything and has great DPS from everyone. 9/10 though you get annoyed people who want to be as quick as possible and if you aren't running what they perceive as quick or best or meta, they want you out.
Only thing I will say about the auto is that the restoration x2 is a bug they addressed. It's supposed to only give resto x1 with increased duration.
shouldnt. even be a bug its a "supprt frame" but i guess nerfagreppo and the pvp retards wanted it nerfed anyways
where did they say that?
@@zynxrs From the June 13th TWAB known issues: "Enhanced Physic incorrectly grants Restoration x2 instead of lengthening Restoration."
@@YaBoiLuuuke ah i see, thanks
I reeeeeally hope they rethink the change. I doubt it, but hey bugs have become features before!
If you use Touch of Flame the Restoration x2 from throwing the healing grenade works with the healing turret. So once the auto is fixed you can still get that buff
It only applies to the user, it does not apply to the allies.
It only gives restoration x1 to allies, though
@@Leo_actualmakes sense. its kinda brokern rn
Alyx loves spreading misinformation
@@JISHBOSIN it’s my favorite thing on the internet
Song of flame is just more fun than well. Your genuinely lethal while still have survivability.
Add a slice in the kinetic and you’ll help your team stay alive all the more.
Not a bad idea, especially considering the scorch buff doesn't seem to work for kinetics anyways.
You right
Great idea
bruh that's just overkill at that point, although it's kinda funny that stacking all of this is actually better than well since you aren't stuck to the circle and can move, bungie has a funny way of nerfing things, i guess the trade-off is well was just a super whereas to match it you have to stack a lot of stuff, which is reasonable imo
@@dankerbell lets make well a more offensive option while giving you a better offensive option with song of flame, classic bungie, they should make well the defensive one with huge DR and healing and song with no DR and big damage buff
Song of flame just honestly feels the best on solar or prismatic, and so good with demo rockets
It is not good with demo rockets. DB is good
It is more fun than I thought it would be when they first showed us the new super. Now it’s my favorite in the game it feels so satisfying
Only valid reasons to keep well is for Trials and to Well-Skate
idk song is like 10x better for trials....its mobile allows you to have your weapons and a highly elevated variant of your neutral kit. on top of that you get a better DR for you and the team that can be brought with you around the .map..... well skating is another story which has its own niche in concept for speed running@@OthersideSparrow
SoF feels the best on solar and prismatic because that’s the only 2 subclasses you can use it on..
Worth mentioning, this works for ranged boss fights as well if you just use celestial fire.
I ran this for first boss on contest as the tractor player with apotheosis veil and it perma stunlocks for the entire damage phase.
I've been doing the same since I've gotten my hands on Speaker's Helm. After half a decade or so, I can finally play warlock the way I first thought the class was supposed to be.
The call, No Hesitation, Tractor, Gally, Dragon's Breath have been my go to weapons for it. The Edge of Intent (Warlock Glaive) might be a good idea too, especially on double special loadouts.
well of radiance also does something pretty awewsome by generating 3 orbs on placement which give everyone max surges for DPS
AND it starts regening a ssoonas you place it down which usually means you end the damage phase with like half of your well back if not more, i dunno i still think well is pretty strong i dont think song of flame is a 100% replacement but it is cool
It gives diversity in playstyle and it depends on what you feel like using. Which is solid imo
@@Black2overlordexactly. Also, well isn’t the best for fights like the witness where you have to move. Well is laughable in prophecy as well
cope
@@Black2overlord ye i agree its cool i just think way to many people are jumping the gun on well and disregarding it after the nerfs weirdly enough for a version of the super with less range less uptime, higher cooldown, no healing, for 20% more DR (?)
Well is still way better in most situations imo, including witness especially after the lingering radiant buff
There's a helmet mod that gives friendly armor charge on super cast, too :D
Stacking this with other elemental buffs and artifacts mods on prismatic is nutty
Apex with Demo and Bipod. Fire two rockets to trigger the ignition as stated. Toss a super nade to reload two rockets. Loop.
Do you use the melee in the combo at all or just nades?
never thought id see the day but this is litteraly a healer for dps. not just a throw down a well and back to beeing a dps. hope the titan players get to actually be tanks soon.
Another thing song of flame does is increase your ally ability regen. This can add up to a lot if your team is running demo on solar rockets.
Video output is insane
What they should have done was cut the healing in half, bring the dr against bosses down to 25 instead of 10, and then move the damage buff to phoenix protocol. Making the radiance longer upon leaving the well just means they literally moved bubbles functionality to well
If well lost the dmg buff then nobody would use it for raid
Song of flames is the new Starfire Protocol but for the whole fireteam, when someone pops SOF everyone should start throwing their Grenades and Melee abilities while using weapons
Born to Nova, free from well
With the final shape the changes made it so Warlocks have a clear team roll as support, hunters have a clear team roll as DPS, and titans have a clear roll of... Being a ball and chain.... Hopefully this gets fixed. Class identity matters.
Know your roll
I think they’re trying to push Titans into providing DR to the team (overshields and woven mail) but they’re currently too limited in that regard. Here’s hoping they’re addressed soon!
That fucking sucks for warlock players though.
@@masonwillms2542 Nah, Warlock are very fun and have plenty of options for builds, not just support. but even the support build is more fun, now.
titans are and have been tanks bruh 😂💀
Worth pointing out, enhanced physic giving restoration x 2 is not intended, it's only supposed to give x 1 for a longer duration (was mentioned a few twabs back)... doesn't move the needle much, but still
Can’t wait to get that polaris caster frame, with this setup on prismatic its gonna nuke bosses
Don’t forget that while using Hellion aspect + Embers of Ashes and Benevolence, you can pretty much spam your class ability (rift or phoenix dive) during a boss damage phase and have infinite Solar buddy uptime.
Well you don't really need to spam it anyways, most phases aren't that long so it only takes like 2 casts to keep up helion
Heat rises with touch of flame when using song of flame gives you the option to be a mobile well. You burst heal then give ×2 restoration every 2 seconds while at the same time making everyone radiant.
star eater bond + tractor + radiance is fun
The more things change, the more they stay the same. The shackles of supportlock have not been undone.
Also touch of flame speakers sight does grant rest x2 both to your healing grenade and to the healing turret of the edge of intent so potentially you can spam the battle field with rest x2 turrets it's actually a lot of fun
Song of flame feels amazing to play. Praise the sun!
goes absolutely bonkers in momentum control.
I really hope they continue down this path, maybe make titan lean towards a tanking role? But maybe with agro fragments, a spam able shield etc.
The fact it has a skill game is so much better now
Keep in mind, enhanced physic was only supposed to make restoration last longer and only have x1.
It’s a bugged they’re planning on fixing since enhanced gives x2 resto. (Which is not intended)
did they say that anywhere because i haven't heard anything saying its a bug. was it in a twab or something?
@@gavinlambert2896yeah, in the known bugs
Much appreciated observation my dude, thank you very much!
dragons breath, song of flame has been my build all szn
Try a 1-2 Punch Shotty, with a Apotheosis and Syntho class item. With Song of flame... the 1-2 Punch shotty Stacks with the Song of Flame Melee, on top of Radiant. The shotty Damage and the Melee damage boost is great, add Syntho for the melee boost, and Apotheosis to keep the melee loop going for a little longer after super ends. The combo works well, cause the time it takes to shoot the shotty and reload a shot, is enough time for the Song of Flame melee to charge back up.
Having alot of fun with this build for damage.
I think Bungie may buff Well a little in the future, but that may be years from now. Maybe they'll do something more with reworking Well to better define Well of Radiance, as the Super for healer builds, and Song of Flame as the Super for support/buff/DPS builds. Hunters and Titans can be Supporters/Healers, but the best at that, would be Warlocks with their variety.
This is Paul Tassi talking and you can't tell me otherwise
lol I like Paul but he got nothing on this guy
Glaives also gain scorch on the melee attack. 6 hits cause ignitions, been pairing it with winterbite to get ignitions and shatters at the same time. Does more damage then using just abilities during Song of Flame.
2:48 This is a confirmed bug. "Enhanced Physic incorrectly grants Restoration x2 instead of lengthening Restoration."
correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't song of flame make nearby allies radiant on its own? if true, this removes the need for ember of torches unless you enter damage without your super and need another way to apply radiant, and it lengthens your super overall because you aren't spending energy on melees.
No, it only gives u radiant + 90% DR and 30% DR for your teammates.
sof last about as long as well 25s and 15/16s if spamming, you also get 90% dr and give 30% dr to teammates, and radiant is always active as long as sof is. The only thing WoR excels at is the AOE in which raidant gets applied bc of the diameter being wide, on top of being able to go outside of the diameter to have continued uptime. the dr suffers in comparison. you can't really move with it, and you can get resto on prismatic and solar.
Honestly I thought the only way to kill well was to bring back self rez but here I am at awe about this super I fucking love radiance it’s so good
A really interesting idea I had while watching this is using Lament + Song of Flame, does Lament apply scorch stacks too? It could be really interesting for sword DPS on bosses like Crota where you get a long, melee range damage phase, using two lights and one heavy already deals good damage, so adding scorch and ignitions to that + the 90% DR and the healing effects of a healing turret + Lament you should be pretty safe overall, this also made me think of the OG Demo rocket damage rotation what with all the grenade spam you can do with Song of Flame. I really wanna try out both
Wings of Sacred Dawn, microcosm, Permeability sidearm rocket, the supremacy sniper with rewind/K-Tremors, and use the super song of flame, phoenix dive, aspect hellion, fragments - ember of benevolence, singeing, empyrean, and solace. 100 resilience and high as possible intellect and I think this could be the next don't die at the witness DPS phase also just float in the air the whole time. Hellion stays up almost infinite I have phoenix dive back usually 5 seconds before it runs out also scout rifle Transfiguration with rewind and explosive never runs out of ammo so you could be a AC-130 The whole time lmao
Not only did they nerf well, but they gave us a cracked out version of it just without the healing… I definitely see them nerfing song of flame eventually
Born to nova, forced to well no longer
I don’t think you need Touch of Flame on this build, because the speaker turret will only give you 1x restoration with or without it. Could sub in Icarus for movement or Heat Rise for melee regen in the neutral game easily.
Song of Flame / tractor is so fucken great I love it
I do still feel there is a place for well, especially in a place with suppression, or situations where a stomp scatters people might scatter the source of healing and now someone’s down, but it is nice having a more hands on more effective option, though i dont think it’ll be as clear to people, especially with how fast you can lose yr super depends on how much abilities you use
You're basically a walking well
Lol describing how ember of torches works in 2024
Song of flame with star eater apotheosis and tractor is so good. You do similar damage to teammates with swords on that first boss in SE and your running tractor.
Honestly, I’m glad well is nerfed. I knew song was gonna slap when I realized they brought back the D1 super
the enhanced perk isnt supposed to give resto x2. bungie already said they will be changing it to give x1 for a longer time. instead of x2
If you have apex with reconstruction with the timing down you can do your abilities on any boss.phase and still get nearly all your rockets off
or just use Demo
I don't understand why you chose to include the 10% support frame buff in song of flame but not well? What stops you from using the support frame AR in well also?
Shout out to my lfg warlocks. You guys crush the glass way.
didnt bungie say the restorationx2 on the AR is a mistake and are changing it to Restoration 1 but longer when enhanced?
Did I miss where you talked about the bug where physic is incorrectly applying restoration x2 instead of giving restoration x1 for a longer duration?
Can you please test how much scorch you apply or how many ignitions or just how much damage you get if you use a caster frame polaris lance perk Ergo Sum with someone else providing wolfpack rounds to it? From this you've shown that each wolfpack round applies scorch and it SHOULD also accelerate the Polaris Lance trigger and possibly even apply scorch per DoT tick from the heavy attack. From a pure damage perspective it might even be worth running Dawn Chorus although obviously the Speaker Mask is better for team situations.
Only downside there is you really want to play Prismatic for the boost while Transcendent on Ergo Sum.
From my testing is you would still want another Warlock on well if one is running SoF just to get those quick orbies and more buffs but if im the only warlock i run SoF unless they want well. But yeah i love SoF and has allowed me to LFG the GM to easy success. Speakers mask+SoF= Beast mode, and with SoF i can be mobile
Spamming melee does more total damage with song of flame instead of alternating grenade and melee FYI
I just wish that at least Song of Flame was free for all players, to pick up at the bazaar with ikora along with the new aspect
So its more then worth to switch from well to song even in team based environment...but you'll probably need speakers+healing ar?
Ok but what gloves is his Warlock wearing ? I need to know, i must have the drip.
does eating the grenade with heat rises still create the healing turret? and does empowering rift stack with radiant?
I love song of flame with my necrotic & star eater class item. Great neutral play and great super boost
I like Well. I think it’s super cool. I really wish Bungie could balance. Instead of saying “hey there’s 3 options for you to use here, but using anything other than this 1 right here is throwing the game.”
Sadly, Bungo has proven time and again, for years, they cannot balance. When they did, it was purely by dumb luck.
Great gm build
Do you happen to know how many scotch stacks the melee and grenade give in the super? I’ve been trying to figure it out
The well is dead, long live the well!
didn't bungie say enhanced physic giving x2 resto is a bug and it's only supposed to be extended resto x1
I love dragons breath! Only thing is I usually run over the rocket charge and die.
I just want Starfire back man. Hunters have the most forehead easy 7 mil load out with just a special weapon, the least Bungie could do is give me Starfire back, especially now that you really can't use well for it anymore
Have you tried using a demo rocket in this cycle?
I haven't played final shape yet. Would running celestial fire make a difference for ranged fights while in song of flame? Incinerator snap still seems to have a lot of fall off even while juiced by the super. Or does the song of flame convert your melee ability??
It's automatically changes to snap in the super but it's upgraded. The range is slightly longer, the tracking is more aggressive, and it launches like twice as many projectiles
@@NosirrathOfficialonly on prismatic. On regular dawnblade it uses celestial fire if you have it equipped
Been using necrotic grips and star eaters class item. Get super damage and my super melee spreads poison on top of it. Super potent. Use devour and arc slide melee and just poison everything and heal off of kills. Been in love since i have put it on.
Song does not give radiant to allies though, right? Just DR?
The Beats of heat 🙏😤 🔥
kinda sucks they confirmed that the AR isn't supposed to get x2 restoration.
been using this build though with a witherhoard and apex with demo so i could fire all my shots without ever needing to reload. Would using Gally do better damage then a apex demo to spam rockets during song of flame? thos woldpack rocket ignitions out pacing bait and switch apex with no reloads? if so, then cool, I can bring gally and not feel like I do zero damage lol. and i guess I can use the new area denial frame over witherhorde then
Sure. But No Hesitation giving ResX2 is a bug.
Still this video was premo info! Thank you!
Been using this with star eaters and slice on the call to boost any light damaging supers using facet of courage
What was the percentage increase for the dragon's breath damage?
Iirc bungie stated that physic granting restoration x2 is a bug and that it should only be x1. Not sure if that applies to advanced though.
Isn’t the enhanced physic giving restoration x2 a bug?
@5:30 how does it work with cluster rocket? Does each cluster cause scorch?
i literally only use well because of well lines, it’s too important to me
Still though, this kinda feels like mostly what Well could do before the nerf but with extra steps...
I wonder if cluster bomb rockets apply scorch even faster?
Touch of flame doesn’t give restox2? I thought it would with healing turret
Appreciate this vid
counterpoint - you are going well :D (A hunter main)
If you are not on G-horn you could also use Apex predator with demolitionist instead of reconstruct and just abuse the grenade Regen song of flame offers.
Come guys every class stand together to get the wellocks their jobs back! What do we want?
Well is in a dmg phase still better, well skating and more dps, and longer
If you have Claw from the class ability it lets you spam melee in radiance.
I find speaker helm overkill, I much prefer Mantle of Battle Harmony for super uptime and dmg boost when super full
Does Dragons Breath nerf Song of Flame? In theory you would get more ignitions off during your super
Just saying you can face tank the witness beam attacks during dps with max resilience and 3 solar surge mods and a well. Just jump over the big attack.
I'm actually happy to not have to run well anymore, its so boring