That cut-out at the front is likely just meant to be a sleeker/angular version of the notch at the front of the Intrepid-class (sensor/secondary deflector/whatever) and basically bridge the visual look between the Intrepid and Pathfinder classes (the Pathfinder has an even deeper cut-out “lane” for its notch).
what sold me with the OG Voyager was not the then new 'radical' arrow shape of the main saucer section, but it was watching the actual physical movement of the folding warp nacelle pylons right before the ship engages to warp speed. And how about the almost overkill aesthetics of them external windows count from way back when, so seeing less of them prob. means more battle ready than just being a primary designated ship of exploration.
It is a conundrum with Star Trek the ships in the franchise would seem to have for the longest time had a longevity and elasticity and now that we're going further in time it seems like their life spans are getting shorter and shorter despite all the advancements my take its plotlines and story lines that are the result for condensing and overlap
We know that the Lamarr-class is roughly the same size as the Sovereign, but with a more scientific mission profile. Sharing parts, especially the Nacelles makes a lot of sense as the Sovereign would be in full production at this point.
I would love to see Starfleet create ships similar to 8472. Able to link together and deploy high energy beams that clearly out classed the Borg. Sadly that tech Used to defend against species 8472, can also be used to assimilate whole ships, or whole planets without ever deploying drones. Imagine a whole planet assimilated in less than an hour, with trillions of nanites. Too damn dangerous!
is a good looking ship and i cant wait to see it in action even if it proberply not going to last long there is a scene in trailer where it look like it gets blown up and it proberply does special with the voyager b confirmed in picard
maybe this Voyager will get to use its captains yacht. P.S. don't you find it a bit strange that Janeway's ship has all this armor. I always thought, the only armor Janeway ever required was Harry Kim!
The visual tie in to the intrepid class is realllly thin. like 0 fat milk thin. The large sensor area on top of saucer and the deflector is pretty much it. voyager looked like an exploratory science vessel. this looks like a warship.
The nacelles don't look all that long to me; the profile seems to still be that of the intrepid. Only its got the wide, flat pylons of the Protostar. - it does look like bussards are like those, typical of Sovereigns' nacelles. Aside from the absence of a deliberate secondary hull, and hull connection body; Sovereigns have the curved (or square) pylons that sweep back from the rear of the hull. The nacelles high over the impulse engine assembly. Maybe you're thrown off by the nacelles not being shoulder mounted on the hull of the origonal Voyager science refit? but thats not what makes an intrepid, an intrepid. - Its the unique saucer / secondary hull, as one module; and the way its saucer, and impulse cluster fits directly on the hull. This is a ship that can land on planet's, and yeah, tougher, better armed Voyager. - Intrepid was designed as a warship, y'see. Voyager was fitted as a long range science vessel, with a third deflector. Something Janeway made good use of, given Voyager got stuck in the Delta quatrant, with fewer weaponry it badly needed. I'm liking this Voyager, and thought the Protostar was pretty sexy. Good ships.
I'm still waiting for quantum torpedoes to impress me. But then photon torpedoes never impressed me either. Just a different special effect for when the phasers don't work. Torpedoes should be a kill shot, not just "cripple their ship". That's phasers with surgical precision. A torpedo is more of a killallaliens dumb bomb.
Did you actually say that the obvious windows are not windows... There is nothing in the history of Trek that suggests they are anything else. Do they make sense when it comes to scale? Do they make sense overall? Who knows, it's animation so therefore by definition are not alpha cannon in any way. Those white rectangles are clearly meant to be windows, period. I don't care what somebody told you after the fact to try to explain why nothing makes sense, and this is why animation is never canon.
I still dislike entire starship hull textures in this show, steel and chrome doesn't feel like Starfleet (I'm looking at you too Discovery). I doubt that it is an armor since why would thay have armor activated in spacedock and consequently in each shot of ship shown in trailer.
Still don't know why Voyager needs a suffix at all. I thought the Enterprise suffix's are to honor the original ship and it's crew for saving Earth, and the Federation several times over. Voyager was lost for years, and did nothing... I don't get it. Edit : Why not give this USS Voyager a new registry number then (for that matter a whole new name)? The original USS Defiant (in TOS) was NCC-1764. The USS Defiant was name twice in DS9 NX-74205 then NCC-75633 (São Paulo). Neither of the last 2 ships got suffix's. The USS Excalibar was NCC-1705 (in TOS) then was in TNG as NCC-26517(no suffix's). The USS Hood (in TOS) was NCC-1703 then in TNG was NCC-42296, no suffix. There is no correlation between name and registry number or succession, unless StarFleet purposely does so. The USS Enterprise 'A' was originally commission as the USS Ti-Ho (with it's own registry number), then was changed to honor the crew and the ship (thus the new name & suffix 'A'). If what you say is true every ship would eventually have a suffix, and that is just not demonstrably true. What has the Voyage done to be honored with a suffix?
That's not how they work. Each ship in succession is name changing its registry. Often the registry starts without a letter and then gets added with the next ship to take the name/registry. Voyager, then Voyager-A and so on. It doesn't have to do with heroics or success.
@@famseymour Why not give this USS Voyager a new registry number then (for that matter a whole new name)? The original USS Defiant (in TOS) was NCC-1764. The USS Defiant was name twice in DS9 NX-74205 then NCC-75633 (São Paulo). Neither of the last 2 ships got suffix's. The USS Excalibar was NCC-1664 (in TOS) then was in TNG as NCC-26517(no suffix's). The USS Hood (in TOS) was NCC-1703 then in TNG was NCC-42296, no suffix. There is no correlation between name and registry number or succession, unless StarFleet purposely does so. The USS Enterprise A was originally commission as the USS Ti-Ho (with it's own registry number), then was changed to honor the crew and the ship (thus the new name & suffix 'A'). If what you say is true every ship would eventually have a suffix, and that is just not demonstrably true. What has the Voyage done to be honored with a suffix?
The registry number is a unique number, two ships can't have the same one, so when a ship is replaced with the same name and number, a suffix is used to differentiate them. It's no more complex than that.
@@famseymour Why not give this USS Voyager a new registry number then (for that matter a whole new name)? The original USS Defiant (in TOS) was NCC-1764. The USS Defiant was name twice in DS9 NX-74205 then NCC-75633 (São Paulo). Neither of the last 2 ships got suffix's. The USS Excalibar was NCC-1664 (in TOS) then was in TNG as NCC-26517(no suffix's). The USS Hood (in TOS) was NCC-1703 then in TNG was NCC-42296, no suffix. There is no correlation between name and registry number or succession, unless StarFleet purposely does so. The USS Enterprise A was originally commission as the USS Ti-Ho (with it's own registry number), then was changed to honor the crew and the ship (thus the new name & suffix 'A'). If what you say is true every ship would eventually have a suffix, and that is just not demonstrably true. What has the Voyage done to be honored with a suffix?
@@AdamArmstrong My larger point is why does the Voyager need a suffix? The ship could be name Voyager but with a different registry number. The USS Defiant, Hood, and Excalibar all names assigned to different ships with different registry. The USS Enterprise 'A' was originally commission as the USS Ti-Ho (with it's own registry number), then was changed to honor the crew and the ship (thus a new name & suffix 'A'). What has the Voyager done to deserve that honor?
Not a fan. This is a Sovereign ripoff 100%. Uncreative. Then again, I don’t consider any of the cartoon shows canon. Just too different than the live action shows and movies.
The ship is nice until you hit the bridge.. What a mistake that was. It ruins the scale of the interior of the ship. And its not Star Trek coherent. Plus the show is horrible, as bad as Discovery, the show no one asked for. Modern Trek is in its dark phase for sure.. Neo-Constitution? LOL.. FO already.. It should have been the proper luna class.
Honestly, it looks like a kit bash of parts from Star Trek Online. A saucer section that is the precursor to the pathfinder Class…a secondary hull that looks like the Bellerophon Class without the QSD…pylons from the Bellerophon…and Sovereign style warp nacelles. Not a huge fan. The Bellerophon Class straight up would have made more sense for a Voyager-A in my opinion.
“I hate when a ship goes in for repairs and comes out looking all Sovereign Class" - Captain Carol Freeman 😊
She should of just said a refit because repair is not a accurate term
The credits roll with the different ships. A great way to honor contributors.
That cut-out at the front is likely just meant to be a sleeker/angular version of the notch at the front of the Intrepid-class (sensor/secondary deflector/whatever) and basically bridge the visual look between the Intrepid and Pathfinder classes (the Pathfinder has an even deeper cut-out “lane” for its notch).
Can't wait to see more of her in season 2. Looks a lot better than the Voyager B from what they have shown us.
As someone whose seen S2 in its entirety there's def some beautiful shots of the ship.
what sold me with the OG Voyager was not the then new 'radical' arrow shape of the main saucer section, but it was watching the actual physical movement of the folding warp nacelle pylons right before the ship engages to warp speed. And how about the almost overkill aesthetics of them external windows count from way back when, so seeing less of them prob. means more battle ready than just being a primary designated ship of exploration.
I'm so in love with Voyager-A!
Shame this beauty is only active for at most, 16 years considering the Voyager-B was revealed in Picard S3 in 2401.
It is a conundrum with Star Trek the ships in the franchise would seem to have for the longest time had a longevity and elasticity and now that we're going further in time it seems like their life spans are getting shorter and shorter despite all the advancements my take its plotlines and story lines that are the result for condensing and overlap
Looks like they stumbled upon a transwarp tunnel, Canadian Goose 🪿 crossing. 🤣 🤣
I can't wait for season 2.
We know that the Lamarr-class is roughly the same size as the Sovereign, but with a more scientific mission profile. Sharing parts, especially the Nacelles makes a lot of sense as the Sovereign would be in full production at this point.
I would love to see Starfleet create ships similar to 8472. Able to link together and deploy high energy beams that clearly out classed the Borg. Sadly that tech Used to defend against species 8472, can also be used to assimilate whole ships, or whole planets without ever deploying drones. Imagine a whole planet assimilated in less than an hour, with trillions of nanites. Too damn dangerous!
How are the animated shows so much better at feeling like canon vs the live action shows?? Ship looks great!
they're not run by star wars fans?
is a good looking ship and i cant wait to see it in action even if it proberply not going to last long there is a scene in trailer where it look like it gets blown up and it proberply does special with the voyager b confirmed in picard
I know someone made lyrics for DS9 theme , but was there one for Voyager ?
I like the Lamar class but it would have been nice if the Voyager A was a Belerophon class.
So do we look forward to a look at episode 13 klingon bird of prey? Keep up the good work
The next perfect slingshot ammo for a Caretaker.
I think you meant _dementor_ rather than death eater.
maybe this Voyager will get to use its captains yacht.
P.S.
don't you find it a bit strange that Janeway's ship has all this armor. I always thought, the only armor Janeway ever required was Harry Kim!
Its feels more like a avenger mix than a sarvrean build
The visual tie in to the intrepid class is realllly thin. like 0 fat milk thin. The large sensor area on top of saucer and the deflector is pretty much it. voyager looked like an exploratory science vessel. this looks like a warship.
Hm, "alien species that lives in the transwarp tunnel" gives me unknown aggressor vibes from "The Expanse".
The nacelles don't look all that long to me; the profile seems to still be that of the intrepid. Only its got the wide, flat pylons of the Protostar. - it does look like bussards are like those, typical of Sovereigns' nacelles.
Aside from the absence of a deliberate secondary hull, and hull connection body; Sovereigns have the curved (or square) pylons that sweep back from the rear of the hull. The nacelles high over the impulse engine assembly.
Maybe you're thrown off by the nacelles not being shoulder mounted on the hull of the origonal Voyager science refit? but thats not what makes an intrepid, an intrepid. - Its the unique saucer / secondary hull, as one module; and the way its saucer, and impulse cluster fits directly on the hull.
This is a ship that can land on planet's, and yeah, tougher, better armed Voyager. - Intrepid was designed as a warship, y'see. Voyager was fitted as a long range science vessel, with a third deflector. Something Janeway made good use of, given Voyager got stuck in the Delta quatrant, with fewer weaponry it badly needed.
I'm liking this Voyager, and thought the Protostar was pretty sexy. Good ships.
Computer...show me the Voyager. No bloody A, B, D....orrrrr J.
I ❤️ the new uss voyager a 😊
I'm still waiting for quantum torpedoes to impress me. But then photon torpedoes never impressed me either. Just a different special effect for when the phasers don't work.
Torpedoes should be a kill shot, not just "cripple their ship". That's phasers with surgical precision. A torpedo is more of a killallaliens dumb bomb.
The deflector is very Intrepid like.
Did you actually say that the obvious windows are not windows...
There is nothing in the history of Trek that suggests they are anything else.
Do they make sense when it comes to scale? Do they make sense overall?
Who knows, it's animation so therefore by definition are not alpha cannon in any way.
Those white rectangles are clearly meant to be windows, period.
I don't care what somebody told you after the fact to try to explain why nothing makes sense, and this is why animation is never canon.
I hope they dont make my all time favourite ship unrecognisable..
In STO the cut out is the secondary deflector
I still dislike entire starship hull textures in this show, steel and chrome doesn't feel like Starfleet (I'm looking at you too Discovery). I doubt that it is an armor since why would thay have armor activated in spacedock and consequently in each shot of ship shown in trailer.
Because armor doesn’t always need to be activated, as seen in the ablative armor used by The Defiant.
@@AaronWaltke Ablative armor is something different altogether.
@@sw-gs My point is that Voyager-A’s armor doesn’t necessarily need to be “activated,” similar to the Defiant’s.
Still don't know why Voyager needs a suffix at all. I thought the Enterprise suffix's are to honor the original ship and it's crew for saving Earth, and the Federation several times over. Voyager was lost for years, and did nothing... I don't get it.
Edit : Why not give this USS Voyager a new registry number then (for that matter a whole new name)? The original USS Defiant (in TOS) was NCC-1764. The USS Defiant was name twice in DS9 NX-74205 then NCC-75633 (São Paulo). Neither of the last 2 ships got suffix's. The USS Excalibar was NCC-1705 (in TOS) then was in TNG as NCC-26517(no suffix's). The USS Hood (in TOS) was NCC-1703 then in TNG was NCC-42296, no suffix. There is no correlation between name and registry number or succession, unless StarFleet purposely does so. The USS Enterprise 'A' was originally commission as the USS Ti-Ho (with it's own registry number), then was changed to honor the crew and the ship (thus the new name & suffix 'A'). If what you say is true every ship would eventually have a suffix, and that is just not demonstrably true. What has the Voyage done to be honored with a suffix?
That's not how they work. Each ship in succession is name changing its registry. Often the registry starts without a letter and then gets added with the next ship to take the name/registry. Voyager, then Voyager-A and so on. It doesn't have to do with heroics or success.
@@famseymour Why not give this USS Voyager a new registry number then (for that matter a whole new name)? The original USS Defiant (in TOS) was NCC-1764. The USS Defiant was name twice in DS9 NX-74205 then NCC-75633 (São Paulo). Neither of the last 2 ships got suffix's. The USS Excalibar was NCC-1664 (in TOS) then was in TNG as NCC-26517(no suffix's). The USS Hood (in TOS) was NCC-1703 then in TNG was NCC-42296, no suffix. There is no correlation between name and registry number or succession, unless StarFleet purposely does so. The USS Enterprise A was originally commission as the USS Ti-Ho (with it's own registry number), then was changed to honor the crew and the ship (thus the new name & suffix 'A'). If what you say is true every ship would eventually have a suffix, and that is just not demonstrably true. What has the Voyage done to be honored with a suffix?
The registry number is a unique number, two ships can't have the same one, so when a ship is replaced with the same name and number, a suffix is used to differentiate them.
It's no more complex than that.
@@famseymour Why not give this USS Voyager a new registry number then (for that matter a whole new name)? The original USS Defiant (in TOS) was NCC-1764. The USS Defiant was name twice in DS9 NX-74205 then NCC-75633 (São Paulo). Neither of the last 2 ships got suffix's. The USS Excalibar was NCC-1664 (in TOS) then was in TNG as NCC-26517(no suffix's). The USS Hood (in TOS) was NCC-1703 then in TNG was NCC-42296, no suffix. There is no correlation between name and registry number or succession, unless StarFleet purposely does so. The USS Enterprise A was originally commission as the USS Ti-Ho (with it's own registry number), then was changed to honor the crew and the ship (thus the new name & suffix 'A'). If what you say is true every ship would eventually have a suffix, and that is just not demonstrably true. What has the Voyage done to be honored with a suffix?
@@AdamArmstrong My larger point is why does the Voyager need a suffix? The ship could be name Voyager but with a different registry number. The USS Defiant, Hood, and Excalibar all names assigned to different ships with different registry. The USS Enterprise 'A' was originally commission as the USS Ti-Ho (with it's own registry number), then was changed to honor the crew and the ship (thus a new name & suffix 'A'). What has the Voyager done to deserve that honor?
Frankly way too early for a voager A. The og is at most 10 years old. Way too young to be decomissioned
Looks clunky
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Not a fan. This is a Sovereign ripoff 100%. Uncreative.
Then again, I don’t consider any of the cartoon shows canon. Just too different than the live action shows and movies.
The ship is nice until you hit the bridge.. What a mistake that was. It ruins the scale of the interior of the ship. And its not Star Trek coherent. Plus the show is horrible, as bad as Discovery, the show no one asked for. Modern Trek is in its dark phase for sure.. Neo-Constitution? LOL.. FO already.. It should have been the proper luna class.
Prodigy is the best of the nu trek feels more trek minus the cheesy kids part
@@paulrasmussen8953 you are a bot.. you cannot be serious.
@@jimest4602 nope. It actually feels.trek
@@paulrasmussen8953 Ok.. Sure.
@@jimest4602 it is. The rest is just garbage
Can they just not make decent trek anymore? Everything is a cartoon now
Honestly, it looks like a kit bash of parts from Star Trek Online. A saucer section that is the precursor to the pathfinder Class…a secondary hull that looks like the Bellerophon Class without the QSD…pylons from the Bellerophon…and Sovereign style warp nacelles. Not a huge fan. The Bellerophon Class straight up would have made more sense for a Voyager-A in my opinion.
Great. Can't wait for this to be a fucking gamble ship in STO. Instant turn off.