The 443 HP AWD Droptop: 2020 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S
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- MotoMan drives the convertible version of the Porsche 992. This Porsche 911 is the 443 HP all wheel drive Carrera S and he is drives this Porsche aggressively to determine if the almost 10% weight penalty in making this Porsche 911 Carrera 4 S a convertible impacts the driving performance. Then, in a short round of our famous #OptionsGame, we learn color makes all the difference in the world on this Porsche NeunElf . . .
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I live out in Hawaii. Had a 991.1 S cab and a 991.1 GTS cab. Targa is beautiful, but the cab simply had a much more open feel and didn’t suffer from wind buffering issues.
The 992 is just so good looking. Every trim level from the standard to the turbo and the Targa , very well done. Retro and modern.
Agree! Even the 997 looked kind of lame in a non-Turbo trim. But now the normal "narrow" cars are almost the best looking. Targa beeing my fav :P
Devon, England. All about the cabriolet here. The Targa looks great but the stories of wind buffering in the cab at 80mph and the fact you have to be at a stop to change the roof put me off. 👍
Great review. To answer your question, a targa doesn’t have the same open air feel as a cabriolet. I’ve had both. And you have to manually store a targa too which eats all your storage space. I think the cabriolet looks better as well.
I'm in Canada and I was converted to convertibles over 10 years ago. Previous car was a BMW 335i Cabriolet, now driving an AMG C43 Cabriolet 4Matic. Why in such a climate (worse than London)? Simple. When talking about modern convertibles/cabriolets, you honestly cannot feel the difference between a coupe and cab when the top is up, even body flex in modern cabs is barely noticeable in normal enthusiast driving (not track). So the 40% of the time when the weather allows it, I'm so glad I went with the convertible. The only other short-coming would be styling when the top is up, which is getting less and less of an issue with modern vehicles, as the undisturbed lines of this beautiful 992 reviewed here demonstrates. In fact, my C43 looks way better to my eyes in convertible form than coupe form, as does the AMG GTC Roadster you reviewed a while back ... a car I pray to be an owner of one day, even though it's rear-wheel-drive only ... and I live in Canada ... totally another story altogether!
Ash You really need friends, but cool story, bro.
You have the best videos!
911's are all great in their own way. Whats not to love about a convertible, especially when the quality of their roof is so great. That delicious sound and the open air cant be beat in a convertible. That's the feeling of a true sports car. How was that feeling on your test drive when you said... This is a beautiful day! My 2004 C4s convertible still runs fantastic, is plenty fast, looks beautiful, and comes in under budget. Loving life down the coast in HB.
If/when I do purchase a Porsche one day, it'll be a 911 Targa 4S... Not going to settle for anything less. Thanks for the video and glad to see you doing well George. Take care and can't wait for the 992 Targa video.
I would LOVE that production tracking app! My last few cars have taken 12-15 months to be delivered with almost zero updates available from the factories. Very cool.
That color is gorgeous
First, love your channel.
Second, I’d go with the convertible to enjoy the Seattle sky without the buffering that targas can have.
Thanks for sharing.
I truly appreciate the breadth and depth of knowledge you bring to each review, and am anxiously looking forward to your first look at the the 992 Targa. This might be the year to pull the trigger on one. I hail from San Diego.
Thank you, sir!
Great review. I am a sucker for the Cabriolet, so that’s what I’d personally go for over the Targa. Although, I’m in Texas and it’s 96 degrees outside today so there is a little more limited time weather wise to enjoy open air driving in my area of the country.
I appreciate your review on the 991.2 Targa 4S and consequently found and purchased a 2017 with 12k miles. GT Silver w/blue leather/blue top, and black 5 spokes. I love this car and thanks for the best review on You Tube of it; you certainly convinced me!
VERY good color combo . . . Congrats!
@@MotoManTV Thanks. The original owner did a great job down to the calipers in silver instead of red. It's sharp and I'm in love!
I have a 2021 C2 992 in transit. Convertible. 7 speed. Couldn’t get a Targa allocation for BTO. But fully open beats sort of open anywhere. I ran my 981 GTS with the electric seats on full and the heater on in 30f sunny weather. Splendid.
I just bought an Adventurine Green Cabriolet 992. I love the way the Targa looks, maybe more than the Cabriolet. However, the Targa in the 991.2 had wind buffeting. You could feel it swirling around you. Also, on LA freeways you would have to pull over and stop to put top up on a Targa. The cabriolet will do it at 40 mph and I’ve found on a hot day in traffic when the traffic slows that’s when it can get hot and it’s easy to put top up on the cabriolet. The Targa has to be completely stopped. That’s a deal breaker for me. Great review and look forward to your review of the Targa!
Motoman! Curious to hear more about your background in tech and your experiences living in Germany, London, and Los Angeles
There's a little bit here . . . mainly from a financial perspective. th-cam.com/video/VKfNA_jA4HE/w-d-xo.html
Great color combination!
I have to add, your app is epic!!
Thank you! Big thanks goto Open Path Products who did the heavy lifting.
This is the color I I would get. Watching from Kansas City
Fun fact: the 992 convertible has more headroom than the coupe. Tried it myself (coupe without sunroof). Usually convertibles always have less headroom than other variants. If you‘re very tall and looking for a convertible, the 992 is the best choice I‘ve found so far.
Wasn't aware. Incredibly good point.
Yep! I’m 6’ 8” and have a few inches of headroom in the cabriolet, more than I do in the Coupe
I’m blessed! Own 991.2 manual Cabriolet, my coupe is a 2018 GT3, and yes also a 2019 Targa with PDK. Folks ask me all the time, “Why would you buy the same expensive car in three different colors?” Answer, “Because they are not even close to being the same car.”😉
Canada. Nothing better than the convertible for four months in the summer
If I was picking between Targa and vert. I would pick the vert, the way they designed the top of the 992, it mimics the body lines of the coupe very well. Of course I would rather just have the coupe.
From the terribly red state of GA
Well, you asked the question: Why the Cabriolet? I'll try to answer, but bear in mind this is just my and my wife's preferences. {Btw.: mine is with me for a couple of weeks, an I'm loving it (Carrera S, not 4 S, because this is more fun) Aventurine Green. Inside: Iceland Green, black dashboard)}. So, why the Cab? I love to drive open, my wife loves it even more. We are living in Vienna, Austria. One hour drive to real mountains, two hours drive to real s e r i o u s mountains - and mountain roads! Winter - at least until recently - with real snow, even in town. Real snow in the mountains for sure. And I must say, I'm driving the car 80 to 90 percent open, because I love the wind in my remaining hair (I'm approaching 60 now). I only close the top when a) it is too hot - some days in August maybe, b) I drive some longer stretches on the Autobahn - especially beyond the border in Germany and c) if it is pouring rain. A drizzle is no reason to close the top. And why not the Targa? To me the Targa is neither fish nor meat. I do not see a single advantage -- oh sorry, there is a single adavantage of the Targa compared to the Cabriolet: the view back is much better. It the roof is closed in the Cabriolet, you don't see much looking back - but there is a camera, so why bother? And why close the roof except when a, b, or c (see above) is happening. I also think the Cabrio it the prettiest of the three - but this is just my taste - and my wife's. And this is what counts for us, doesn't it?
looking forward to seing you getting into a 992 Targa. ☺
Was thinking exactly the same thing
Honestly the I prefer the 997 Targa
Greetings from Chicago! Our daily driver is a 2012 Panamera 4. I would choose a Targa ...too iconic to resist. That reminds me, time to talk to The Mrs. about a summer car. Cheers!
I can't choose the Cabrio over the Targa. The Targa is love, Targa is life lol.
Now if only Porsche build a GT3 touring ... Targa or "mass produce" the Speedster.
As always, excellent work M.
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Thank you George - you made my Saturday - the combination of "Motoman and Porsche" is the best. Yeah cars are getting heavier - not only due to electronics and security. I brought my Porsche to the service last month, there was a 84`911 parked between a Panamera and a 992 - and it way like toy that tiny. That is why are cars that much heavier, they are that much bigger! We want more security and more luxury - that's the way.
84 . . . Lovely car . . . Pre the easy to use clutch . . .
The app is probably connected to an SAP module in the back end, perhaps the Production Planning module. With SAP seriously wanting into the mobile app space, I wouldn't be surprised that VW Group is working with them on various POC's, which might include this new tracking app. Based on your background, I'm pretty sure you know what I'm talking about George.
I got the Cabriolet because when closed is just as comfortable as the coupe (The roof is in magnesium so it's not a soft top ) it opens and closes in 12 seconds at speeds of 6o Km/h, unless you are a race pilot, you won't notice any difference in driving from the coup, and when it is a beautiful day you just drive without a roof! Last but not least you have very little wind noise even at high speed, in the cabriolet in comparison to the Targa!
How's the recovery from the accident you suffered from the testla?
love the 992 Cabriolet. Jamaica.
This is in Palos Verdes. I could tell right away.
Do you think this car is enough better than the M4 Comp convertible to justify the price increase? I saw your review of that car and you really liked it. I’m sure this is better - but *how* much better? Thx!
I'm in Colorado and I still want the drop top 🥶
Great Video Thank you. Just can't bring myself to spending that kind of money on a car.
Perfekt allein ist gut genug: Handschaltung & frei saugender Motor.
Would people choose the Cabriolet over the Targa due to a rumored increase in noise with the open roof?
I have the Targa all day long! Let’s see if the buffeting is less this time!
It has it’s weight against it...
More Motor to love. Our auto is a Dark Naval Blue w slate and charcoal. Those Zuf qualities had us revisiting the launch demo Aston Db9 2015. w chainmail and blue stitch..schwarze Farbe for a drop tops decent..Agree on personal pref if you had a Burgundy top w a similar interior Om not sure if you match your belt to your shoes or man purse the same as an auto calipers to a trim on a configuration as nice touches. If you ever saw the Q Mint and pink DBS or Paris Hilton pink Bentley GT some things so radical. 44.9975° N, 91.7271° W is not as friendly to the topless look..seasonally blessed by the sun...but nothing like a Cruise near the Naval areas in Diego San.. So You think Miami and droptops year around.
Like fine wine, the 911 gets better looking with time..too many frivilous options on that list though, I think I can knock about $10-12K off of it
Is wireless CarPlay connection reliable? Does your phone get hot when wireless charging at same time ? Thanks
In the Porsches, generally. Sometimes takes a longer than usual to pair once you start the car. In BMWs, it can be hit and miss. Sometimes pairs. Sometimes not. Although, I have noticed that issue is becoming less apparent over the past year with newer builds of the system. And yes, the phone does get hot. VERY hot in BMWs. To the point that at least with my Xs MAX, it impacts call quality.
Beautiful car, lots of horsepower, probably sufficient but for the money I would think a little more hp. Just bought an 04 911 base, wanted a turbo but you only really get like 100 more hp. i plan to just supercharge it.
Looking forward to a 992.2 hybrid with manual.
How to shift with manual with a bottle in the cup holder?
I can't wait for the targa version of this good looking Porsche 992. Or should I say Targa GTS?! Would I buy a convertible 992 over the coupe? Well maybe but just for those rides along the Croatian coastline on the old road, which is awesome. I live near Croatia and near Trieste, Italy and there are some roads where I imagine myself driving a convertible.
This was shot in Trieste and the surrounding region: th-cam.com/video/YVqm06HWQVU/w-d-xo.html
@@MotoManTV I remember that episode. It was partly shot in Slovenia. The road from Bovec to Kranjska Gora is a bucket list road! www.google.lv/maps/dir/46.3375899,13.5600924/Ski+Kranjska+Gora/@46.443589,13.5335824,49350m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m10!4m9!1m0!1m5!1m1!1s0x477a7cee6f7d09d7:0x6875447fa1c2db2c!2m2!1d13.7794784!2d46.4849533!3e0!5i1
I like the cab because my kids in the back like to stick their hands up in the air as if they are in a roller coaster at speed. Can’t do that with a Targa as there’s glass and a roll hoop there. Also, with the wind blocker up in the cab, much less wind buffeting than in the Targa. Targa also less feel of openness than the cab.
Lovely car! Buuuuuut I'd rather have the C8 convertible whenever that drops.
I’d choose the convertible only if I’m feeling adventurous with my money. Unless I have serious performance concerns & just looking for an expensive toy to look good in while vibing,then I’m sold.
Still like the 991 rear End more
Live in NY. When I turned 50, and thought I’d play with the cliche and get an open top 911-991.2 Euro delivery. Never was a fan of convertibles before, and this is my first. Really like the Targa in principle, but when pressed went with the convertible. First was concerned about the weight of the convertible over the coupe, and the Targa added even further weight. Also the Targa mechanism, while fascinating to watch, seemed a potential failure point, was slower, and required additional clearance and a full stop to activate. The Targa was only available as a 4 or 4S, and I thought the RWD would be more engaging and a little lighter. For this reason, went with an Carrera S Cab and 7-speed. Agree that 4 wheel steer and front axle lift are pretty much essential. And Night Blue is a lovely color. Enjoy the car perhaps more than I thought I would. Maybe there’s something to the cliches after all...
Any news about wheels weights/rigidity? Or is that a top secret I can't find that info anywhere? I'm kinda interested if they charge you extra 3500...but hey its Porsche ,a 150k supercar where you have to pay for sport exhaust loooooool
I live where it’s hot and humid all summer long and top down driving is maybe 4-6 weeks annually so convertible’s are nice but a waste of money.
convertible would be my last choice, at that is even in LA area. Targa for sure, or just get a 981/718 Spyder and an older 911 coupe. The convertible just doesn't have as good of lines as coupe or Targa. it looks too much like a rolling hot tub spa(which seems like a great idea by the way)
Cheshire oaks gave me a GTS 911 as a courtesy car. Hard top. Superb car, but it’s the convertible for me, even a base. The price keeps going up too fast! I have a Boxster which is great, but really want this car
The UK is the destination with the highest percentage of convertible cars.
When sunlight is scarce - people want to make the most of it.
Therefore - convertibles!
You have only 30k views on a Porsche video. Nobody is "emailing" you anything. Just be natural. We like honest and natural.
if I have 5 cars I would than get a convertible other than that not at all I would just get a continental gt and be happy in every situation. I live in Istanbul and currently have Audi a8lw12 if I had the money my next car will be urus if not I'm gonna continue to buy every next a8l when it comes out, the reason I don't have the current a8 is in turkey right now only the Diesel engines are avaliable for a8 but I would never get a diesel in any situation
Beautiful car, a bit pricey and it's "missing" the third pedal option. Free amber side marks?!
You should be seeing an episode of a 992 with three pedals in mid to late July.
Id choose the Convertible over the Targa because id also have a Taycan so i'd want the full drop top exp. However if i could only have just one id have the Targa but ALL would be 7MT. Well not the Taycan... Oooo they should do a Automatic Manual EV. Three peddles, a shifter, and just do it all electronically with the gearing and power delivery, with a section or button for automatic drive. That would be the sex.
All the Cabriolets are in California and Florida
Great video! But to answer your question...I’m English and I’ve ordered a Night Blue C2S convertible over a Targa because...I just want a proper convertible to tour Europe in the summer. And though the Targa does look utterly gorgeous and I was tempted, it does have wind-buffeting issues apparently and a daft roof mechanism that is prone to rattles...
Anyway who cares...I reckon all 992s are pretty special..!
Love the exterior color, not so much the interior color.
The dirty secret with the 992.1 is that it has gained weight to make room for future batteries and electric motors (most likely in the 992.2). So the .1 is hobbled with extra weight for no reason. SAD!
No matter the model or trim, hardtop or convertible, with powerkit or not, Porsche cannot make a “bad” 911 these days
Well, the car would be even heavier if it had RWS and axle lift as standard... and some people just don't need it.
Good point.
Portuguese Bend (aka Palos Verdes Dr S) has to be one of the worst maintained scenic drives in LA.
EXACTLY why it is perfect to serve as our top secret (sorta) torture chamber.
10:55 - I want to put my kids in the back seat, and have them experience the open-top. with the targa, they would be under glass. and the cab is more play-boy than the OG targa, so there’s that too.
the targa is so cool …… but not practical for my needs
I'll take the C8
80" Reach ... More like the equivalent of TWO C8’s from a financial perspective.
Buying a business first but when its been profitable for several months i want one of these but 7MT and Gentian blue with a blue roof dammit! Who does a black roof when you have 3 other options for free?!
8:49 orange peel
Finally confirmed, I knew you were a conservative when you mentioned Dave Ramsey.
Why does this matter?
@@JoeJacksonGT3 ^
So the AMG GTC has better ride quality.
Targa 🇦🇺🇦🇺
No body makes Coo-Coo clocks like the Germans! Tesla? They’ve put the iPhone 21 on wheels. ☺️
Geek
I take that as a compliment.
Em klat ot gniog uoy era
This car is ugly from every angle and always has been.