The Lost Appeal of Conception

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  • @12Flowers1
    @12Flowers1 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    Me and my husband are trying for a child, please pray for us 🙏🏻❤️

    • @LadyMaria
      @LadyMaria ปีที่แล้ว +2

      May it be blessed. 🙏

    • @ΓεώργιοςΝτέλμας
      @ΓεώργιοςΝτέλμας ปีที่แล้ว +6

      God willing I wish you have a child. Bring life to the world. In Jesus Christ's name. I wish you courage to you and your husband so the child walks in the way of Christ and that it is liked by God. Protect your child. I wish you are fruitful my sister

    • @leannewheeler5351
      @leannewheeler5351 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      May God bless your womb in the name of our Lord Jesus

  • @danieldefonce
    @danieldefonce ปีที่แล้ว +58

    For those of us not blessed with a marriage: Im learning even if we can’t or won’t physically have children, due to various life situations, we can parent/mentor young people, thereby having spiritual children, like celibate priests, monks, or nuns. And if we are members of the Church, we are eternally married to Christ our divine spouse.

  • @youngKOkid1
    @youngKOkid1 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    My wife is 1 month pregnant with our first child 🤗 pray for us and our baby.

    • @LadyMaria
      @LadyMaria ปีที่แล้ว +2

      God grant you both many years, youngKOkid1! ☦︎ 🤗

    • @LadyMaria
      @LadyMaria ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RussellSilver-tl6td This is an Orthodox channel. We do not recognize same sex unions. A child should have a mother and a father as Fr. Josiah has mentioned elsewhere on this channel.

    • @youngKOkid1
      @youngKOkid1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@LadyMaria Thank you, God bless.

    • @jawokenn8766
      @jawokenn8766 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      any update? God bless you and your family (:

    • @youngKOkid1
      @youngKOkid1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jawokenn8766 she is 36 weeks pregnant; mama and baby both healthy. Thank you, and God bless you too :)

  • @-ICXC-NIKA-
    @-ICXC-NIKA- ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Thank you for this uplifting message. My husband and I have 9 children and as I was having them, I really struggle with the response of everyone around me. Even people in the church. It was true that people don't embrace or support having many children, even in the church. I feel that there is not enough of this council to encourage and support having children. But as difficult as it is it really is a blessing. I just hope and pray I do a good job. But I still really struggle with society, I even pulled them out of public school and we took on the task to school them at home. God help us. Kirie Eleison.

    • @LadyMaria
      @LadyMaria ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It is also true that long time married couples who have no children through no fault of their own are looked at as lesser in the Church. That's how I feel. I'm lesser than the other women and my husband as lesser as a man. I do not believe this but feel that's how others look at us. That we're not a family, the two of us.

    • @John-rw9vm
      @John-rw9vm ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Keep praying that is tough. My wife’s cousin and wife tried for years, ivf all the treatments nothing. And then God blessed them with twin boys☦️

    • @LadyOneKC
      @LadyOneKC ปีที่แล้ว +1

      God bless you and your family.

  • @johnnguyentan2503
    @johnnguyentan2503 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Thank you Fr. Josiah for this teaching. The Church needs to speak more clearly on this issue. Many Orthodox believers are willfully ignorant on the practice of abortafacient birth control. God grant us mercy & courage. ✝

  • @gabrielleh4131
    @gabrielleh4131 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    My husband and I were blessed with our first child last year. It was a very long traumatic birth that ended in an emergency c-section. Without the intersessions of the Theotokos, both of us would have surely perished. It is truly a miracle that we both survived and recovered so well. Only God knows if we will have another child in the future but we are not planning on it (but would never prevent it of course) due to the very high risk nature of any future pregnancies. Some people were just not meant to have many children.

    • @jandenbiesen6559
      @jandenbiesen6559 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      May God bless your family 🙏 We had almost the same. Thanks to God, everything went well!🌹

  • @orthodoxensign
    @orthodoxensign ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Thank you so much for this edifying and encouraging teaching! Please, if you would, Father, please pray for us young people that we can find spouses who will be zealous in these necessary ideals.

  • @csizzle24377
    @csizzle24377 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you Father Josiah for an encouraging word to those who dare defy cultural ‘norms’ and ascetically struggle to raise children against the blowing winds of our fallen culture.

  • @MrsAngloOrtho
    @MrsAngloOrtho ปีที่แล้ว +8

    🎉 looking forward to Enduring Love!! Thank God someone is writing an Orthodox marriage prep book.

  • @byzantinephilosopher
    @byzantinephilosopher ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Father, thank you so much for everything you say.

  • @LadyOneKC
    @LadyOneKC ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please pray for me. My husband and I have been praying and trying for a child.

  • @БНетрек-о4д
    @БНетрек-о4д ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great Word, Father. Greetings from Ukraine 🎉

  • @emilyantiqua
    @emilyantiqua ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is so beautiful🩵 can’t wait to have kids

  • @DiverseKitty
    @DiverseKitty ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I NEED that premarital book, and soon! Please leave a link so this comment or make another video announcing it when it comes out! I will preorder it if I can!

  • @Whaat-in-the-world
    @Whaat-in-the-world ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was absolutely beautiful ❤

  • @ProtestantismLeftBehind
    @ProtestantismLeftBehind ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Christian life is one of struggle and celebration.

  • @HonkeyHero18
    @HonkeyHero18 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please pray for me. I want to be married so badly but the dating world in the place I live is so beyond miserable. I get so impatient and struggle with despondancy over it.
    All I ever want in life is a wife, and children.

  • @MajorMustang1117
    @MajorMustang1117 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    5th on the way. I hope they maintain the Faith and add to our beautiful community of believers.
    I never wanted many kids. My wife wanted NONE.😂.
    But why would we close ourselves to one of God's greatest gifts?

  • @angiepfeifer6898
    @angiepfeifer6898 ปีที่แล้ว

    I LOVE THIS!...and have learned alot from you lately. St Andrew church in Riverside is beautiful! I used to live in Temecula.
    Though I am born and raised Orthodox...I learned about Mother from the Roman Catholic Church, upon leaving the EV church.
    My Catholic husband and I, after returning to his Catholic faith, adopted 2 children from Russia. I learned so much from RCC...and was saved by her from Evangelical theological errors. I'm sad that all of my Orthodox friends became EV, never to return. I'm sad to hear the Orthodox attacks against the RCC on TH-cam and in books...even joining in with the Protestant persecution of the RCC. When I first heard you speak...I thought you're knowledge of church history was skewed, and not presented fairly as did Bishop Kalistos. The crime committed upon a sacred altar long ago was clearly a satanic ritual...though you blamed and shamed the entire RCC with your statement on youtube...hundreds of years later. How many people now will think that the entire Holy Roman Church, the successor of Peter...were responsible for raped nuns upon an altar. Did the world blame the Orthodox Church for the crimes of Stalin?
    I know plenty of evil doers that call themselves Orthodox. There are several Orthodox apologists and speakers that attack RCC as well.
    Such attacks by the Orthodox fuel unforgiving fires. It's so divisive in a time where unity is crucial amongst us. Why give the devil a foothold?....it's pride that devides us. Mary gave birth to one body.
    Peter and the Apostles (their successors) were given church authority...yet Emperors & Rulers have always tried to usurp Peter's
    God-given authority to lead the church. Peter was given the keys to the Kingdom. We must unite not divide.
    Now is the time to forgive, and be strong with the power of His love.
    We must not allow the dragon to sift Peter...while Mary cries for her children. I pray always for UNITY along with the Church...do the Orthodox pray for unity?
    My guess is they don't. It's time to be charitable towards the RCC. Teach this to your congregation...to love their brothers.
    It's time to swallow pride for the sake of our Lord.
    God Bless you 🙏

  • @mariavlahochristos7756
    @mariavlahochristos7756 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Glory to God

  • @263sparky3
    @263sparky3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have 3 children…
    We struggled to make them and doc told us we would have trouble making more )we were in denial of Christ at the time)
    Now back in church I wonder if we need to consult a Catholic doctor.
    I would like to make many more

    • @LadyMaria
      @LadyMaria ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What about an Orthodox doctor?

    • @jacobkeltz3584
      @jacobkeltz3584 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​@@LadyMariaan orthodoxtor?

  • @mrjkstark
    @mrjkstark ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is a point of contention at home. We have 2 lovely girls (oldest is 3) but my wife has no desire for any more children. I’m not so sure God has released us yet from the duty of having children.

    • @bordeauxhouse
      @bordeauxhouse ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Father Josiah tells couples in our parish to try at least to have four children. Our children are the greatest treasure of our parish with approximately half our number being under the age of 18. I regret having only two children, wonderful as they are.

    • @LadyMaria
      @LadyMaria ปีที่แล้ว

      If God wills it, you will. 🤗

    • @lizmcatee3385
      @lizmcatee3385 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Your oldest is only 3, there is time for feelings to change. I have 5 kids: 2 year gap, 3 year gap, 2 year gap, 3 year gap.

    • @mrjkstark
      @mrjkstark ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lizmcatee3385 I hope so. We’re in our mid 30s

    • @leannewheeler5351
      @leannewheeler5351 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'd would have liked to have had at least 1 more. I came down with a medical condition and can no longer bare children. I have 2 sons, I thank God.

  • @Loren.C
    @Loren.C ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We tried to have children and could not. After quite some time, we stopped.

  • @brianbrownell689
    @brianbrownell689 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good

  • @NightDangerRPG
    @NightDangerRPG ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fr. please in your charity pray for Bede and Maria, who have lost 2 children consecutively in stillbirth

    • @Tomswifebobbi
      @Tomswifebobbi ปีที่แล้ว

      Lord have mercy. I'm so sorry.

    • @leannewheeler5351
      @leannewheeler5351 ปีที่แล้ว

      May our God bring healing and restoration. 🩵

  • @seeker2219
    @seeker2219 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Got 4.
    Would've loved to have more, but the world works overtime to reduce population to around 15%of what it is today.
    It is all good to have kidz, but being able to finance it is not easy atall.

  • @d0ksa
    @d0ksa ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ☦️

  • @LadyMaria
    @LadyMaria ปีที่แล้ว +4

    We most likely will never have children but my husband wrangles the wandering kids at Liturgy so they don't wander too far and people leave their kids with him. He's pretty good with kids. They like him too.

    • @angiepfeifer6898
      @angiepfeifer6898 ปีที่แล้ว

      My husband and I adopted from Russia yrs ago...a toddler from Moscow ( girl), and a little boy from Perm near Siberia. Best thing we ever did. We felt Mary's presence during the entire adoption💕

    • @Tomswifebobbi
      @Tomswifebobbi ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@angiepfeifer6898 can you please share how you went about this?

    • @angiepfeifer6898
      @angiepfeifer6898 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Tomswifebobbi We chose a faith based organization, International Christian Adoption ( ICA). They were in Southern Calif ( Temecula). I don't recall all the countries they went into...maybe
      Korea, Romania, Ukraine? Russia is no longer open to U.S. anymore. I was older then...going on 40, so age was not a big issue in Russia. We went to court with translator, agent in Russia walks you thru all necessary steps. Best to do "foster to adopt" program here in U.S. since the world has become hostile with wars looming. Foreign adoption takes approx 9 mos. We had to travel there twice for our daughter, so it gets costly. Travel is most expensive part...cuz 2nd trip required a 10 day stay (law) b4 leaving country. Don't seek intl unless the country has a beaten path. I'm of Serbian decent, but Serbia had no beaten path to adoption, (so you could find yourself in a baby buying situation if you're not careful.) God Bless you.

    • @LadyMaria
      @LadyMaria ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@angiepfeifer6898I believe that if we can't have children naturally that it's just not our vocation to be parents. Adoption is too expensive as well.

  • @acekoala457
    @acekoala457 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't want to be married anymore. I'll never have those feelings for anyone ever again.

  • @nicksalvador9729
    @nicksalvador9729 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I've tired using this reasoning as an encouragement. Many post modernists, cultural marxists, libertines, or whatever euphemism you'd like to use, seem to take pride in their anti-natalism and climate catastrophe moping. So long as us Christians have healthy families whom we raise with Godly virtues and education, it seems like we will "win" this culture debacle simply by behaving in a sane manner. I find it ironic that people who would be self proclaimed believers in evolution would be the ones that would lose the evolutionary race by removing themselves from the gene pool. Oh well. God is good, our King is already victorious.

    • @timothywilliamson8901
      @timothywilliamson8901 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      🗣️☦️☦️☦️🙏🎉😃

    • @HappyCupsInc
      @HappyCupsInc ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A very important thing now is to make sure Christian children aren’t corrupted by these suicidal ideologies. Keep them out of public schools, teach them right. If we are to outlast them, we must not let our children fall.

  • @KazX37
    @KazX37 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What about those who don't feel their marriage is stable enough for children, especially due to healing traumas and mental health concerns?

    • @tracycameron5099
      @tracycameron5099 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I understand, pray and see what God says. Trust him to know the end from the present. I had 3 and thought I was in control, which is wrong, and I wish i had had more. God wants us to need him and to lean on him for everything. Children are a gift.

    • @KazX37
      @KazX37 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tracycameron5099 excellent point, prayer and listen.

    • @gigachad2221-g4n
      @gigachad2221-g4n 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      God opens and closes the womb. Period.
      He will not send more children they a couple can handle. Using contraception during sex is just treating the spouse as a means to an end, for one's own selfish pleasure. As for trauma and mental health issues, if one is not wanting to have children due to those issue, perhaps they shouldn't be thinking of getting married at the time those are ongoing issues.
      Really though, I think the healing that a couple is looking for in such circumstances would come about through the blessing of children.

  • @voxlknight2155
    @voxlknight2155 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's a great shame that today, when infant mortality is near extinct and so is child mortality (save for extreme illnesses, of course), people are having so few children. Something like this has not been seen since the time of the Emperor Augustus, when he implemented his marriage laws to combat the very same issue. Rome at the time was plagued by promiscuity. People lacked family values, and weren't having children.
    What a shame that _this_ is the aspect of Rome we copy. Not it's beautiful architecture or it's resilient infrastructure (Roman roads still exist today and show so signs of needing repairs anytime soon. Our modern roads need maintenance every few years), not the praise worthy parts of it's culture, we don't imitate that. No, we imitate it's decadence. And we have the gall to call ourselves the most advanced people in history.

  • @eglaham
    @eglaham ปีที่แล้ว

    clergy symposium, please?

  • @gewissj
    @gewissj ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the reference to the quote? I can’t find it.

  • @Gustavo-so7zk
    @Gustavo-so7zk ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love the thing he does with his hand at the beginning it kind of looks like a gang sign but cleaner and holy plus I would definitely join Father Josiah's gang that would be so tough

    • @Football0Lover
      @Football0Lover ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That is a blessing, what are you even talking about...

    • @Gustavo-so7zk
      @Gustavo-so7zk ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Football0Loveryeah the thing he does with his hands at the beginning it’s dope, Fr Josiah is invited to the cookout fs

    • @fantasizer8473
      @fantasizer8473 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have made your mistake and mocked jesus and the church and I ended up on my knees begging forgiveness for my stupidity from the Lord. Wake up.

    • @Gustavo-so7zk
      @Gustavo-so7zk ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fantasizer8473 I’m not sure I believe you’ve made that mistake

    • @andys3035
      @andys3035 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's using his hand to spell out Jesus Christ in Greek or IC XC and bless others. Everything we do with our bodies is used to glorify God.

  • @benjoseph8275
    @benjoseph8275 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In answer to the question of would I rather witness and be aggrieved at the suffering, the horror, the abject hatred of God, the blatant transgression, the pride in sinfulness and twisted perversion, the mutilation of the innocent, the travesty of justice, the arrogance and defiance of the wicked, the diabolical onslaught against all that is good and holy, the lies, the deceptions, the silencing of the righteous voices, the flagrant and careless destruction of His creation, the heartless abuse of his creatures, and the impending, imminent, and irreversible coming of the burning wrath and fiery judgment of Almighty God about to be poured out upon all the earth, and struggle to barely live in the absolute meaninglessness, purposelessness, and hopelessness of that reality OR be dead? Honestly, if it were not against the Holy Will of Heaven, I would almost, almost, rather be dead. The only reason I choose not to be is because He forbids it. It is a hairsbreadth from me every waking moment. This world is too fast turning into absolute Hell. Unfortunately, neither monasticism nor marriage are options for me. I would stand condemned in both paths. So, I'm stuck in the middle without a solution. There is VERY little hope, if any at all, that remains in this world. Because the level of repentance necessary unto salvation extends SO far beyond what anyone would be willing to accept, I'm beginning to genuinely doubt that God will spare any more than a miniscule few of us who remain. But, yeah, if I had a choice in the matter, I would probably choose not to continue in this world that is in all regards bound for annihilation and damnation. Oh, and by the way, in the sense of any kind of established institution, there is no fully true church. There are and have been individuals. But there has never been, for the past two thousand years, nor is there currently any community that contains within it, the fullness of the True Faith. It did not survive beyond the first century.

  • @ArizonaTengu
    @ArizonaTengu ปีที่แล้ว +2

    While marriage is there for procreation. It’s primary purpose is to maintain chastity. To prevent us from falling into the sin of fornication. We should go back to this mentality of marrying people so they live a chaste life.
    The biggest irony is that we lost this attitude. That we deny marriage to the most vulnerable, which is the young, because we believe that somehow the secular world with its laws knows better on how to maintain sexual morality in society. Read 1 Corinthians 7:8-9 on how this is the case. Also St. John Chrysostom on the matter.
    Because if you look at the cultures that have big families. It’s the cultures that marry people, especially women, at a young age. Funny enough, being from a traditional Mexican community. The clergy have denied me marriage because my potential spouses are “to young” to marry. I find this very troubling since denying marriage is warned against in 1 Timothy 4.
    Coming from a guy who legit wants eight children FYI. :p

    • @ArizonaTengu
      @ArizonaTengu ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah pretty much the younger ones get no say in the matter. I’d go to a different priest, or parish, but everything I have is here. With nothing else being available where my family on my dad’s side lives in Mexico. Moving isn’t an option.
      So I pretty much decided just to be obedient until the point of failure. I lost a tooth so far from the struggle, but I doubt anybody can argue that I didn’t try. I’ll still bring her to Church. It just might not be ideal circumstances lol. I’m in God’s hands here on out.

  • @jmejmejme010101
    @jmejmejme010101 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    My wife is pregnant with our 8th child. I am Orthodox and she’s Catholic. If I had married an Orthodox woman I’d be lucky to have two children. I married the right woman, and her Catholic beliefs have enriched my life immeasurably.

    • @jmejmejme010101
      @jmejmejme010101 ปีที่แล้ว

      @ruralsquirrel5158 Orthodox aren’t even at replacement rates

    • @LadyMaria
      @LadyMaria ปีที่แล้ว

      Riiiight..

  • @annabanana2623
    @annabanana2623 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Marriages are falling apart.

  • @jorgletchler1980
    @jorgletchler1980 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    birth-control pills be banned, i mean damned 😉

  • @Gorthaur-Bauglir
    @Gorthaur-Bauglir ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm getting married in February and we don't plan on conceiving until we are ready :)

    • @seraphimwieber3893
      @seraphimwieber3893 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes. I would agree that procreation before marriage is a bad idea. Wait to conceive until February.