"Young men are puttin' themselves six feet in the ground 'Cause all this damn country does is keep on kickin' them down" It's amazing how for all the supposed controversy over the political controversy of this song I don't think I saw anyone discuss its reference to the rising epidemic of suicide amongst young men.
Totally true what you said about music affecting those who visit Orthodox Liturgy. I went to my first liturgy this past sunday, and I had no idea such a small parish could make such beautiful music with only the voice. It was amazing to see how vibrantly everyone worshiped, and I certainly have a new perspective of Orthodoxy. I am going to visit that church more and learn more about Orthodoxy. There is definitely something Divine about the Orthodox Church.
You’re doing Gods work talking about these things Father. Truly I, even in my limited understanding, expect God to reward you greatly for your daily talks and homilies to us. Talking about the daily developments of the modern world and speaking of the issues that affect orthodox and non-orthodox alike from the standpoint of the church, spending your time to speak to whomsoever will bother to listen, I find it hard to believe God won’t recognize the great and humble service you do for us. God bless you father☦️
I am truly grateful for the messages from Fr. Josiah Trenham! And, I am awed by your response here, written so eloquently, in the music of the words God also gives us to express a thought train in the natural flow of the symbolic sounds that convey the communication from the originating mind to those who hunger for the knowledge being "spoken," without breaking it up into discrete sound bites by interrupting-punctuation that dilutes the message; handicapping understanding by the perceiver. This handicapping has been deliberate; "dumbing-down" pupils in the early grades to sabotage reading comprehension, thereby, ensuring they will never reach their full potential. Thank you for your excellent illustration of the lessons in this Reflection! Your well-crafted response employing a classic complex sentence, is an exercise in using flowing words that are heard in the mind, evoking the sound of frequencies and vibrations that are integral to discernment, understanding and True knowledge. This concept can be studied by reading Scriptures, the writings of America's Founding Fathers, and, I presume, probably, of the Church Fathers. Interrupting the flow of words by creating short sentences stops the flow of comprehension, causing the reader to be unable to fully understand the overall concept. Thank you both, for an invaluable lesson!
@@Itasca1I didn’t think I said anything super eloquent other than just speaking from the heart you hit the nail on the head and really got to the root of the writing comprehension though nonetheless! God bless my friend☦️
@@lukeplaysdrums7007 It was the way your words flowed, conveying your thoughts from beginning to end in perfect use of the tools of English grammar; like Goldilocks found perfection in Baby Bear's "tools," while finding only discomfort and disappointment in Papa & Mama Bear's. It was the complex sentence that gave me pause; a rare tool to see in Modern Times; especially done correctly, it opened my mind to stop, and reread from the beginning, with deeper appreciation of the messenger, not just the message! I think what I discerned was your nous, if I understand the concept accurately! Imagine my surprise when I later noted your "handle;" I, too, am a drummer . . . so, I realized there was a connection in your disciplined flow of the multiple languages of communication: word-based, sound frequencies & vibrations, with the rhythm of numbers-in-action; All acting within Time's shepherding embrace to the end. The result here is a disciplined mind making communication look effortless, like when the ignorant observes a masterful drummer and says, "That doesn't look so hard; I could do that!" Thank you for the enlightening interlude.. God bless my friend ☦️
Thank you for reminding us of her. That is very noteworthy. What we put into our souls during years of being careless it will then be a bloody fight to get them out, and only with God's help. Purify the Nous.
I needed to hear this. I have a blessing from a hieromonk at St Anthony's to make "the new genre" and yet I've let other youtuber channels negatively affect my mind because they posted something how Orthodox shouldn't make music besides chant. I know deeply that good music can bring peace, tranquility and calm to the heart.
Thank you. Thank you. But, i must say, that as i just rewatched this.. which goes on to speak about music and Orthodox music., i also heard the song again and it grabbed me again.. it will run through my mind AGAIN as it always does, for several hours. When i was able to go to church and sing in the choir, i would find myself singing either Sunday's Cherubic Hymn or Anaphora, for days.. almost all week . This has a surprisingly similar affect. Lord, have mercy.. There is a reason why this has soared.
Beauty. Music.. etc.. Dostoevsky's words that beauty will save the world, was deeply true. And, the LACK of it will destroy it. Those who have done that to our culture and schools have KNOWN what their goals were..
Father, the words you expressed, blessed by God have been shared and sent to many who are not Orthodox but support our community in Christ's love. They really appreciated your analysis. Thank you❤
Any prayer is appreciated, I am thinking about dedicating my bass guitar playing to God somehow and that I can keep working this many hours with the place actually liking my ogre self lol. I would love to visit this church and contribute a little to talk to a deacon or priest IF the Lord tarries my good fortune because I am literally from the gutter and not used to things going well. I'm leaving protestantism too. God bless You all! Christ is Risen!
Antiochian (Syrian) here During my journey in Orthodoxy, I always feel our traditional music & culture to be part of my journey I feel local culture & Orthodox spirit cannot be separated somehow
We are the music makers, And we are the dreamers of dreams, Wandering by lone sea-breakers, And sitting by desolate streams; - World-losers and world-forsakers, On whom the pale moon gleams: Yet we are the movers and shakers Of the world for ever, it seems.
His song brings the average people together. The rich, the people in government, and the elite can not have that. They need us divided in order to control us.
I always enjoy your comments and views, and this was no different. I feel it is directly from the spirit of God that the Lord speaks through you. Thank you very much for your encouraging words always
Fr. Josiah, some musicians have said that the master recordings of certain musical artists have incantations performed over them. I can’t prove this but you can imagine that it isn’t even necessary. Thank you for this. God bless.
Music is what led me to discover Orthodoxy. Growing up I would listen to sacred music from the medieval and Rennaissance west such as Gregorian chant and Sacred Motets. My favorite was Miserere Mei by Allegri. I wished so much that church music was still like that and being a Protestant there was no hope for me to enjoy this type of music in church especially since I rejected Roman Catholicism. When I discovered Byzantine chant, I knew that I wanted to be apart of the church where that music came from. I love the ancient and unchanging beauty of Orthodoxy. I never felt like I truly worshipped God before I attended my first Divine Litergy. I do not like modern contemporary Christian music. I was always made to feel bad in Protestantism for not liking it because that was the music that would bring more people to church. They wanted to reach the younger generation. Well, I am a part of gen Z so that argument didnt work for me. Even athiests acknowledge the beauty of Byzantine chant while cringing at Christian rock. What a tragedy that so many schools cut music out of their curriculum. Music is always the first to go before sports or anything else. I am a professional musician with a degree in Oboe Performance. I understand very well the power of music. It's not a coincidence that the band nerds happened to be the ones with the best grades in school. I am also in the Army and the 42R bandsmen tend to have the some of the highest ASVAB scores as well.
In the old world some tones are not allowed. Some are considered destructive to your spirit/soul. They can be found somewhat in genres like death metal. It’s an interesting study to look into.
@michaelbarber5633 where can one read up on this? I really think some computer "music" tones are doing that very thing in ads, they are so irritating. Thank you and God bless!
@@theskyizblue2day431 yeah ok lighten up there Francis. Diabolus in musica. The triad, tritone, diminished fifths, whatever, has been frowned upon in certain religious areas and not allowed in some older ones. Source - Theologian.
Has anyone any recommendations (a link) to a good message from Fr Trenham for a worldly hedonist whose mother just died suddenly. This 40 year old has (after meeting his mother the day after she died) has suddenly become “spiritual” and wants to devote his life to helping others. After visiting a number of different denomination churches & Buddhist shrines, thinks all religions are the same and they all have the same God and message. Which is to be kind to one another. Fr Trenham gave a great & relevant talk recently called “The Real God” (on Orthodox Sentinel Radio) which doesn’t seem to be available.
I never said song could be compared spiritually to the Psalms. Just is similar musically in its crying out to the Lord, it is the same kind of human activity. Why the song and performance resonated with millions and Father Josiah authored a sermon about a pop song. But people also triggered when James Caviezel said Trump like David, anointed by God. Problem is rhetoric no longer required to graduate high school, so many here do not understand use of similes. These same people easily triggered by words they don’t understand and act without critical thinking, quick to anger.
Really dig this brother! As a Protestant, we do have STRONG disagreements upon the sufficiency of the atonement and salvation, but with those EXTREMELY important disagreements, I must say, I was deeply encouraged to hear you speak on this matter. As a follower of The Way who is a singer-songwriter and a musician, I’ve been thirsty to hear more about what God is doing through the work of this man and I appreciate you taking the time to do so. However much I appreciate your argumentation, I don’t think that you have successfully made a case that music-not lyrics only, could be sinful against God or non beneficial to the listener. I would argue, that the CONTENT of one’s music can be sinful if it does not submit to what The Lord has deemed as true, beautiful and good (Phil.4), but nowhere have i found in scripture as my operating standard (which is the only Godly approach to understanding reality; starting from the Christian worldview) that the rhythm, melody or harmony can be intrinsically sinful; for the music is only the medium from which what is uttered is communicated (from within the song format). I do make a more precise argument if you’d like to take a look, but if not that’s cool too! Other than this, God bless you and I pray that you come to believe that we are saved through grace alone, by faith alone in Christ alone and that His work on the cross is a finished sufficient work unto man’s salvation not dependent upon repeating it over and over again. Thanks for posting brother!!! SOLI DEO GLORIA (To The Glory Of God Alone) Father, Son & Holy Spirit -Ronnie
Keep in mind...God's mind is not not ours... Keep in mind this is an Orthodox view! Which is a very old and ancient understanding older than the Reformation itself and its existence. Thank you for watching and opening your heart and mind to Orthodox perspectives. He is first shall be last, and he who is last will be first. Orthodox make no claims or suppositions of our place in God's kingdom. That will be the honor of God to do so. His outpouring of love unto mankind in our creation is evident today. His resurrected son Jesus Christ, his only begotten son, and the Holy Spirit work as one in bringing His power of love into the world. We are all servants, no better, we are all are under his protection and care to do only one thing...and this is the basis of Orthodoxy...to Love one another as He loves us. Thank you for your interesting post, I did reflect on your words deeply, in love go and find peace through the cross.
Can I ask about the use of the female voice ? Can it in any way be used for sacred music to lead others to Christs Kingdom or is this not possible at all because …. ? Should women be …silent ? As is also taught to Buddhist Nuns etc silence of voice …. Differences in religion …. Also in some Christian Gospel music etc and ‘New Age’ healing uses of ‘sound’ …. Should it be rebuked as a temptation . …if being tempted to false Worship for Jesus Christ ? Is that indeed possible ? I agree a lot with what your saying and I have experienced a situation with music I am working upon my understanding .
The world isn't falling because a few people choose to do evil; it is falling because all of us are sinners, and for the past 75 years have chosen comfort, materialism and entertainment over people and good works. All we need to do is choose to be servants, and live in the world but be not of it. All this wasted time on apologetics, philosophies, complex theologies... All vanity. Just serve others, and love the Lord. Stop worrying about tomorrow, get salty and let God handle the rest.
@@shawnpatrick1877 the truth is God. He has been and always will be. He revealed Himself over 2000 years ago through the apostles and the Church Fathers. The Truth simply is. I've watched countless apologists and philosophers, and there's very little love of Christ; they just want to be correct. What we need are people living Christian lives, converting people by showing them a better way to live, not screaming on a street corner or into the abyss of the internet. Churches and monasteries used to serve the poor, build hospitals, care for orphans and widows. We need to go back to our roots
That is your humble opinion. God uses all for His good. Please bear that in mind. What you do in your own will.andvin your own mind or in the mind of an interpretive Preacher or pastor may not always be a message from God. Be cautious my friend, guard your words, your mind, and your ears, and your actions. You never know, you may be filled with something more than the Holy Spirit. There is only one path. Seek it out. I pray you find your salvation on the cross, through the love of Christ, and your peace. Now I know you will not understand that prayer I just bid you, but every Orthodox reading this will. The Orthodox Church is love. It saddens us, not weakens us to see this rejection of His love, through feeble attempts. We all view this as extremely sad, and our souls cry in sadness. Let's love another, and help one another. Be careful, please, for your own salvation, criticizing the body of Christ and if your reject that, your rejecting the Holy Spirit. Go and seek your peace only in His love and mercy. ❤
@@diananoonen2262 I am Orthodox. If you think the laity or clergy are above critique, I'm not sure what to tell you. The dogmas and deep theologies were established 1000 years ago. Nothing revolutionary is left to unearth, as God revealed Himself through the Church. Whether or not people receive those truths are of their own choosing.
I'm an 8th generation Appalachian. Unfortunately, our culture is virtually dead thanks to mass media, the expansion of the Interstate system, and the mass influx of Yankees and Floridians into rural Appalachia. Unfortunately, Anthony seems like an industry plant if anything.
IF he factually, actually Is an industry plant(wouldn't be a true shocker) , The Power of the Holy Spirit is not limited by the intentions and machinations of man. Either way it's a "I felt That!" song. Thank you, fr. Josiah for " keeping it real" . Doamne Ajuta! 🕊️🙏🌹
@@CosmicMystery7Industry plant for sure. No one is granted popularity and attention unless (((they))) allow it, let alone to this degree. People open their hearts to what he has to say, then he can insert poison like "diversity is our strength". Fake.
Not quite Fr Josiah. The playing of the harp only “worked” on Solomon temporarily. It’s not the music that has the power. It’s the words attached to them. Remember Solomon tried to slay David with javelins. It’s not until prophecy was attached to the harp that it actually worked. It’s important to be clear with scripture.
Something tells me you didn't come up with this pearl of understanding all on your own by watching Father's video and having this epiphany about this very specific moment in the video. You know, it is possible to watch a video for yourself and think your own thoughts and make your own original comments.
@@lucduchien of course it is. And what’s wrong with having the same feeling about something and then listening to someone else perfectly articulating it and then informing others if it ? Furthermore, who the Fx@& are you ? The referee ? The ultimate judge ? You sound very “look at me” very narcissistic. GTFO
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I am deeply moved every time we sing: “Holy God, Holy mighty, Holy immortal, have mercy on us” in the liturgy.
"Young men are puttin' themselves six feet in the ground
'Cause all this damn country does is keep on kickin' them down"
It's amazing how for all the supposed controversy over the political controversy of this song I don't think I saw anyone discuss its reference to the rising epidemic of suicide amongst young men.
The greatest amount of deaths in the U.S. is unborn infants and demoralized young men
All I need is Waylon, Willie, Cash & Orthodox chant.
Hope you're good brother 🙏
Check out Tennessee Ernie Ford, the Cathedrals and Georgian orrhodox music chant, the Country not the state. Howdy from TN.
@@TheDroc1990I got no complaints. Blessings in Christ. 🙏
@@dustinneely amen brother same here ☦️
My man!
Totally true what you said about music affecting those who visit Orthodox Liturgy. I went to my first liturgy this past sunday, and I had no idea such a small parish could make such beautiful music with only the voice. It was amazing to see how vibrantly everyone worshiped, and I certainly have a new perspective of Orthodoxy. I am going to visit that church more and learn more about Orthodoxy. There is definitely something Divine about the Orthodox Church.
You’re doing Gods work talking about these things Father. Truly I, even in my limited understanding, expect God to reward you greatly for your daily talks and homilies to us. Talking about the daily developments of the modern world and speaking of the issues that affect orthodox and non-orthodox alike from the standpoint of the church, spending your time to speak to whomsoever will bother to listen, I find it hard to believe God won’t recognize the great and humble service you do for us. God bless you father☦️
Beautifully explicated. Blessings!
I am truly grateful for the messages from Fr. Josiah Trenham! And, I am awed by your response here, written so eloquently, in the music of the words God also gives us to express a thought train in the natural flow of the symbolic sounds that convey the communication from the originating mind to those who hunger for the knowledge being "spoken," without breaking it up into discrete sound bites by interrupting-punctuation that dilutes the message; handicapping understanding by the perceiver. This handicapping has been deliberate; "dumbing-down" pupils in the early grades to sabotage reading comprehension, thereby, ensuring they will never reach their full potential. Thank you for your excellent illustration of the lessons in this Reflection! Your well-crafted response employing a classic complex sentence, is an exercise in using flowing words that are heard in the mind, evoking the sound of frequencies and vibrations that are integral to discernment, understanding and True knowledge. This concept can be studied by reading Scriptures, the writings of America's Founding Fathers, and, I presume, probably, of the Church Fathers. Interrupting the flow of words by creating short sentences stops the flow of comprehension, causing the reader to be unable to fully understand the overall concept.
Thank you both, for an invaluable lesson!
@@Itasca1I didn’t think I said anything super eloquent other than just speaking from the heart you hit the nail on the head and really got to the root of the writing comprehension though nonetheless! God bless my friend☦️
@@lukeplaysdrums7007 It was the way your words flowed, conveying your thoughts from beginning to end in perfect use of the tools of English grammar; like Goldilocks found perfection in Baby Bear's "tools," while finding only discomfort and disappointment in Papa & Mama Bear's. It was the complex sentence that gave me pause; a rare tool to see in Modern Times; especially done correctly, it opened my mind to stop, and reread from the beginning, with deeper appreciation of the messenger, not just the message! I think what I discerned was your nous, if I understand the concept accurately! Imagine my surprise when I later noted your "handle;" I, too, am a drummer . . . so, I realized there was a connection in your disciplined flow of the multiple languages of communication: word-based, sound frequencies & vibrations, with the rhythm of numbers-in-action; All acting within Time's shepherding embrace to the end. The result here is a disciplined mind making communication look effortless, like when the ignorant observes a masterful drummer and says, "That doesn't look so hard; I could do that!" Thank you for the enlightening interlude.. God bless my friend ☦️
Can you interview him maybe? It would be very very very interesting to hear you two talk.
Pure truth, which is needed today.
That’s why I like Gregorian chants. Elevates the heart even though I don’t understand the words.
I think of the life of Saint Mary of Egypt fighting against remembering secular music
Thank you for reminding us of her. That is very noteworthy. What we put into our souls during years of being careless it will then be a bloody fight to get them out, and only with God's help. Purify the Nous.
@@Death2Compromisein what way is it degenerate?
I needed to hear this. I have a blessing from a hieromonk at St Anthony's to make "the new genre" and yet I've let other youtuber channels negatively affect my mind because they posted something how Orthodox shouldn't make music besides chant. I know deeply that good music can bring peace, tranquility and calm to the heart.
Thank you. Thank you. But, i must say, that as i just rewatched this.. which goes on to speak about music and Orthodox music., i also heard the song again and it grabbed me again.. it will run through my mind AGAIN as it always does, for several hours.
When i was able to go to church and sing in the choir, i would find myself singing either Sunday's Cherubic Hymn or Anaphora, for days.. almost all week .
This has a surprisingly similar affect.
Lord, have mercy.. There is a reason why this has soared.
Beauty. Music.. etc.. Dostoevsky's words that beauty will save the world, was deeply true. And, the LACK of it will destroy it. Those who have done that to our culture and schools have KNOWN what their goals were..
Father, the words you expressed, blessed by God have been shared and sent to many who are not Orthodox but support our community in Christ's love. They really appreciated your analysis. Thank you❤
Guard yourself! And your children! It's a real challenge in this time.
The medium is the message.
Im glad you are talking about this fr.Josiah, more men of God should talk about these issues that need to be addressed and not irrelavant topics
Any prayer is appreciated, I am thinking about dedicating my bass guitar playing to God somehow and that I can keep working this many hours with the place actually liking my ogre self lol.
I would love to visit this church and contribute a little to talk to a deacon or priest IF the Lord tarries my good fortune because I am literally from the gutter and not used to things going well.
I'm leaving protestantism too.
God bless You all!
Christ is Risen!
Trully He is Risen
Indeed He is Risen!
Thank you for this deeply insightful video about the spiritual power of music.
Antiochian (Syrian) here
During my journey in Orthodoxy, I always feel our traditional music & culture to be part of my journey
I feel local culture & Orthodox spirit cannot be separated somehow
We are the music makers,
And we are the dreamers of dreams,
Wandering by lone sea-breakers,
And sitting by desolate streams; -
World-losers and world-forsakers,
On whom the pale moon gleams:
Yet we are the movers and shakers
Of the world for ever, it seems.
His song brings the average people together. The rich, the people in government, and the elite can not have that. They need us divided in order to control us.
I always enjoy your comments and views, and this was no different. I feel it is directly from the spirit of God that the Lord speaks through you. Thank you very much for your encouraging words always
As a singer-song writer, I deeply appreciate this reflection. Thank you Fr Josiah!
Part of the reason I reached Orthodoxy was the Valaam chants, so I can only underline what Fr. Josiah said.
Thank you Father your insight in genuinely appreciated.
Peace for Israel! 🙏🙏🙏🌏
The Words matters not the strumming nor the music itself.
Fr. Josiah, some musicians have said that the master recordings of certain musical artists have incantations performed over them. I can’t prove this but you can imagine that it isn’t even necessary. Thank you for this. God bless.
It’s true. Hollywood, which is named after the wood to make magical wands, is full of sorcery. It’s also the nesting place for the synagogue of satan.
Thank you , excellent .
Music is what led me to discover Orthodoxy. Growing up I would listen to sacred music from the medieval and Rennaissance west such as Gregorian chant and Sacred Motets. My favorite was Miserere Mei by Allegri. I wished so much that church music was still like that and being a Protestant there was no hope for me to enjoy this type of music in church especially since I rejected Roman Catholicism. When I discovered Byzantine chant, I knew that I wanted to be apart of the church where that music came from. I love the ancient and unchanging beauty of Orthodoxy. I never felt like I truly worshipped God before I attended my first Divine Litergy. I do not like modern contemporary Christian music. I was always made to feel bad in Protestantism for not liking it because that was the music that would bring more people to church. They wanted to reach the younger generation. Well, I am a part of gen Z so that argument didnt work for me. Even athiests acknowledge the beauty of Byzantine chant while cringing at Christian rock.
What a tragedy that so many schools cut music out of their curriculum. Music is always the first to go before sports or anything else. I am a professional musician with a degree in Oboe Performance. I understand very well the power of music. It's not a coincidence that the band nerds happened to be the ones with the best grades in school. I am also in the Army and the 42R bandsmen tend to have the some of the highest ASVAB scores as well.
Thank you father
absolutely needed to hear this. thank you so much. God bless you.
In the old world some tones are not allowed. Some are considered destructive to your spirit/soul. They can be found somewhat in genres like death metal. It’s an interesting study to look into.
@michaelbarber5633 where can one read up on this? I really think some computer "music" tones are doing that very thing in ads, they are so irritating. Thank you and God bless!
This isn’t true, stop spreading misinformation. No church of any sect ever banned any interval. They used all of them. Source- musician.
@@theskyizblue2day431 yeah ok lighten up there Francis. Diabolus in musica. The triad, tritone, diminished fifths, whatever, has been frowned upon in certain religious areas and not allowed in some older ones. Source - Theologian.
Congratulations! Good blessy orthodox cant! 🙏 Thank you and video! 🙏 🙏 🙏 Pace and Israel 🌎
Peace for Israel! 🙏 🙏 🙏 🌎
Thank you for taking the time to make this
Psalm 9 by Trouble would be great to plug into a liturgy. Change my mind.
Really great video. Would love to hear more on this subject.
Has anyone any recommendations (a link) to a good message from Fr Trenham for a worldly hedonist whose mother just died suddenly. This 40 year old has (after meeting his mother the day after she died) has suddenly become “spiritual” and wants to devote his life to helping others. After visiting a number of different denomination churches & Buddhist shrines, thinks all religions are the same and they all have the same God and message. Which is to be kind to one another. Fr Trenham gave a great & relevant talk recently called “The Real God” (on Orthodox Sentinel Radio) which doesn’t seem to be available.
Thank you Father☦️
This is world wide
Why is it the internet lets him say, " Dame shame, " and the other words?
One of Satins great deceptions on the youth is that they are travelling to a safe place following others. The opposite is always true.
Frequency of the music
The song is very much like a modern day Psalm.
Cannot be compared to the Psalms, I respectfully disagree....
I never said song could be compared spiritually to the Psalms. Just is similar musically in its crying out to the Lord, it is the same kind of human activity. Why the song and performance resonated with millions and Father Josiah authored a sermon about a pop song. But people also triggered when James Caviezel said Trump like David, anointed by God. Problem is rhetoric no longer required to graduate high school, so many here do not understand use of similes. These same people easily triggered by words they don’t understand and act without critical thinking, quick to anger.
Really dig this brother! As a Protestant, we do have STRONG disagreements upon the sufficiency of the atonement and salvation, but with those EXTREMELY important disagreements, I must say, I was deeply encouraged to hear you speak on this matter. As a follower of The Way who is a singer-songwriter and a musician, I’ve been thirsty to hear more about what God is doing through the work of this man and I appreciate you taking the time to do so. However much I appreciate your argumentation, I don’t think that you have successfully made a case that music-not lyrics only, could be sinful against God or non beneficial to the listener. I would argue, that the CONTENT of one’s music can be sinful if it does not submit to what The Lord has deemed as true, beautiful and good (Phil.4), but nowhere have i found in scripture as my operating standard (which is the only Godly approach to understanding reality; starting from the Christian worldview) that the rhythm, melody or harmony can be intrinsically sinful; for the music is only the medium from which what is uttered is communicated (from within the song format). I do make a more precise argument if you’d like to take a look, but if not that’s cool too! Other than this, God bless you and I pray that you come to believe that we are saved through grace alone, by faith alone in Christ alone and that His work on the cross is a finished sufficient work unto man’s salvation not dependent upon repeating it over and over again. Thanks for posting brother!!!
SOLI DEO GLORIA
(To The Glory Of God Alone)
Father, Son & Holy Spirit
-Ronnie
Keep in mind...God's mind is not not ours...
Keep in mind this is an Orthodox view! Which is a very old and ancient understanding older than the Reformation itself and its existence. Thank you for watching and opening your heart and mind to Orthodox perspectives. He is first shall be last, and he who is last will be first. Orthodox make no claims or suppositions of our place in God's kingdom. That will be the honor of God to do so. His outpouring of love unto mankind in our creation is evident today. His resurrected son Jesus Christ, his only begotten son, and the Holy Spirit work as one in bringing His power of love into the world. We are all servants, no better, we are all are under his protection and care to do only one thing...and this is the basis of Orthodoxy...to Love one another as He loves us.
Thank you for your interesting post, I did reflect on your words deeply, in love go and find peace through the cross.
He became a Christian a month before his meteoric rise
deadass?
That is no mistake! That is God's perfect plan. Let us pray.❤
Is "oliver Anthony " orthodox?
No, Protestant.
@@Death2Compromise I don't think so.
Can I ask about the use of the female voice ? Can it in any way be used for sacred music to lead others to Christs Kingdom or is this not possible at all because …. ? Should women be …silent ? As is also taught to Buddhist Nuns etc silence of voice …. Differences in religion …. Also in some Christian Gospel music etc and ‘New Age’ healing uses of ‘sound’ …. Should it be rebuked as a temptation . …if being tempted to false Worship for Jesus Christ ? Is that indeed possible ? I agree a lot with what your saying and I have experienced a situation with music I am working upon my understanding .
The Monk did a video on your video. Lol
The world isn't falling because a few people choose to do evil; it is falling because all of us are sinners, and for the past 75 years have chosen comfort, materialism and entertainment over people and good works. All we need to do is choose to be servants, and live in the world but be not of it. All this wasted time on apologetics, philosophies, complex theologies... All vanity. Just serve others, and love the Lord. Stop worrying about tomorrow, get salty and let God handle the rest.
@@shawnpatrick1877 the truth is God. He has been and always will be. He revealed Himself over 2000 years ago through the apostles and the Church Fathers. The Truth simply is. I've watched countless apologists and philosophers, and there's very little love of Christ; they just want to be correct. What we need are people living Christian lives, converting people by showing them a better way to live, not screaming on a street corner or into the abyss of the internet. Churches and monasteries used to serve the poor, build hospitals, care for orphans and widows. We need to go back to our roots
That is your humble opinion.
God uses all for His good.
Please bear that in mind.
What you do in your own will.andvin your own mind or in the mind of an interpretive Preacher or pastor may not always be a message from God.
Be cautious my friend, guard your words, your mind, and your ears, and your actions. You never know, you may be filled with something more than the Holy Spirit.
There is only one path. Seek it out. I pray you find your salvation on the cross, through the love of Christ, and your peace.
Now I know you will not understand that prayer I just bid you, but every Orthodox reading this will.
The Orthodox Church is love. It saddens us, not weakens us to see this rejection of His love, through feeble attempts. We all view this as extremely sad, and our souls cry in sadness. Let's love another, and help one another.
Be careful, please, for your own salvation, criticizing the body of Christ and if your reject that, your rejecting the Holy Spirit. Go and seek your peace only in His love and mercy. ❤
@@diananoonen2262 I am Orthodox. If you think the laity or clergy are above critique, I'm not sure what to tell you. The dogmas and deep theologies were established 1000 years ago. Nothing revolutionary is left to unearth, as God revealed Himself through the Church. Whether or not people receive those truths are of their own choosing.
All I need are Black Sabbath and Slayer for music
It's Appalachian folk music. The forgotten people of America. The poorest people in America.
I'm an 8th generation Appalachian. Unfortunately, our culture is virtually dead thanks to mass media, the expansion of the Interstate system, and the mass influx of Yankees and Floridians into rural Appalachia.
Unfortunately, Anthony seems like an industry plant if anything.
IF he factually, actually Is an industry plant(wouldn't be a true shocker) , The Power of the Holy Spirit is not limited by the intentions and machinations of man. Either way it's a "I felt That!" song. Thank you, fr. Josiah for " keeping it real" . Doamne Ajuta! 🕊️🙏🌹
@@CosmicMystery7Industry plant for sure. No one is granted popularity and attention unless (((they))) allow it, let alone to this degree. People open their hearts to what he has to say, then he can insert poison like "diversity is our strength". Fake.
Oh what a rich culture it is...being from Virginia, it's a different world.
Not quite Fr Josiah. The playing of the harp only “worked” on Solomon temporarily. It’s not the music that has the power. It’s the words attached to them. Remember Solomon tried to slay David with javelins. It’s not until prophecy was attached to the harp that it actually worked. It’s important to be clear with scripture.
Something tells me you didn't come up with this pearl of understanding all on your own by watching Father's video and having this epiphany about this very specific moment in the video. You know, it is possible to watch a video for yourself and think your own thoughts and make your own original comments.
@@lucduchien of course it is. And what’s wrong with having the same feeling about something and then listening to someone else perfectly articulating it and then informing others if it ? Furthermore, who the Fx@& are you ? The referee ? The ultimate judge ? You sound very “look at me” very narcissistic. GTFO
You mean Saul tried to kill David, not Solomon.
@@TedNebraskiyes Saul
Can you interview him maybe? It would be very very very interesting to hear you two talk.