Every Renamed Station on the Bakerloo Line
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The Bakerloo Line is relatively simple. Relatively.
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Jago is one of the few people who make the sponsor ads as much fun as the videos. Only Jay Foreman can also do that. It must be a London trivia thing.
Caddicarus also makes entertaining sponsor skits. Perhaps the brits do have some freaky magic going on.
That green corridor at Embankment probably has the last line diagram that refers to the Jubilee stopping at Charing Cross, I hope they keep it around. I like the idea of tourists seeing it and being really confused by it.
Also at Embankment, Bakerloo maps were produced erroneously showing Willesden Junction as "Willesden Green, " which of course also used to be on the Bakerloo before 1979! At the last look, they were still there, but with the errors taped over!!
I was a huge Underground nerd when I was a kid - still am. We moved to London when I was 6 (in 1986) and I had the tube map memorised within a year, largely thanks to my mum and dad giving me a map that they put up on my bedroom wall when I was asleep the night before my birthday. Then I saw a map in a local sports centre (Lea Valley) with a Trafalgar Square station on it. I was desperate to know what had happened to that particular station.
It's only taken me thirty-four years to get round to finding out. Thanks for the video, Jago. You're amazing!
I moved to London in 1984 and I’m still a huge underground nerd as well !! The Bakerloo line is one of my favourite lines because it’s still got the old stock trains and it’s one of the less fashionable lines, if you get my meaning!! Glad to know that I’m not the only underground aficionado!!
Those who live in the area pronounce Wealdstone as it's written, not Wealdstun. However, nobody admits to actually living in Wealdstone- everybody who lives there says they live in Harrow.
As an aside, every book written about The Who, who regularly played at the Railway Hotel where Pete Townshend first smashed his guitar after accidentally poking it through the low ceiling, will call the area Harrow and Wealdstone. The pub itself was (sadly it was demolished some years ago, to be replaced by a block of flats called Moon Court- perhaps in memory of Keith Moon, who was born in Wembley) on the Harrow side of the tracks. Wealdstone gets its name from the sarsen stone outside what used to be the Red Lion pub a mile or so north of the town centre, though what used to be the Case is Altered pub (now Poundland) in Wealdstone High Street also has a similar stone outside it.
Great knowledge.
I was born in the same hospital as Keith Moon, albeit in 1986 when there was a maternity ward still there at Park Royal/Central Middlesex Hospital.
I like to believe the Alan Moore/ From Hell, linked ancient names and non coincidental/coincimental naming is deliberate. Time has an architecture, or however that line goes..
I look forward the the heavily padded waterloo and city line episode!
"business meeting"
When we were children our teacher read us a short story called "The Bakerloo Flea" and since then, not one of us from that class has dared travel on the Bakerloo line in case we encounter the gigantic flea in the tunnel which attacks trains!
The Christmas party... I mean business meeting joke was hilarious. 😂
There is nothing quite as enjoyable a highly padded Jago film.
I remember the first time I heard of Harrow and Wealdstone. It was a story about the awful accident in 1952, where a London bound Express from Perth, ran into the back of a stopping train from Tring at the station having passed through not one, but two signals at danger. Moments later, an Express bound for Manchester smashed into the wreckage. The result was the worst peace time tragedy on the railways, 112 people died and 340 injured, behind only Quintinshill in terms of death toll (in that accident, which occurred during WW1, 221 people, mostly soldiers, were killed when 3 trains collided just north of the Scottish border on what's today the West Coast Mainline)
Sounds like a lot of SPADS can you imagine the paperwork today
The down train was heading for Liverpool.
42389 was the tank engine in charge of the Tring local. 46242 City of Glasgow was the loco hauling the sleeper which passed through red signals. 46202 Princess Anne was in charge of the down Liverpool train. This had only been in service for about 2 months, having been rebuilt from the experimental Turbomotive. 45637 Windward Islands was also on the Liverpool train, as a stock movement.
46242 was "rebuilt" but used some parts from 46202.
Come for the videos. Stay for the patreon analogies.
Your rambling on is much appreciated 😊 it brings a smile to my face 😊 thank you Jago 👍🏽
That ad, which I have no idea refers to at all... **ahem** (LOL), is pure genius.
"Stupid northern half, why can't you be more like the southern half..." Is a phrase that could be applied to London as a whole!🤣🤣
I'm sure there are plenty who would say it applies to England as a whole.
Controversial!
@@englishciderlover7347 And I'm pretty sure there are plenty of others who'd be inclined to put it the other way round.
@@philroberts7238 Definitely.
the length of villiers street is ( probably ) shorter than the distance between charing cross and embankment stations which surely deserves its own video / investigation thanks.
Are you suggesting our Jago be forced to walk the lenght of a street with 3 pubs (well, 2 pubs and Gordons)? Tsssk... imagine the slurring after one too many white ports.
@@camenbert5837: 😂 😂 😂
At Warwick Avenue, the route strip maps on the opening to the Southbound platform still show no interchange at Charing Cross, and Charing Cross and Embankment stations have their names on metal plates affixed to the sign. The same map for the Northbound platform shows every National Rail and Overground connection as "British Rail". These signs are of course set in the lighter weight of Johnston Sans that London Transport was using back then, and are set in "UPPER CASE" rather than "Title Case" as now.
Possibly better days!
Love that ad at the beginning Jago, very clever! You ramble on it's never irrelevant and your videos always cheer me up. Did miss the departing train at the end though as that always brings back memories of my time commuting.
Reassuring to know that despite all of Jago's ramblings, he doesn't stick to his briefs. 😉
If you’re going on long walks, you need good personal hygiene.
@@JagoHazzard Wise words Mr.H. You don't want to meet Betty Swollocks on a long walk.😁
I’ve heard Elephant & Castle called many things, but perfection…
It is of course, a corruption of Infante Castile.
Please forgive any spelling errors.
@@thomasburke2683 I thought that was a myth and that it was named after a pub with the old heraldic symbol of an elephant with a castle on its back on the sign. Or is that the myth?
@@ShedTV I have no idea where the name comes from, but TB's version seems the most plausible - the Infanta was like the Dauphin in France or the Prince of Wales here. I can't imagine why there would be a heraldic shield with an elephant and castle, unless it was created after the name of the area became common parlance.
@@rogink I just realised where I got that theory from, there's a whole Jago Hazzard video on the subject! th-cam.com/video/QvjgXxdhXw4/w-d-xo.html
Thank you, for me Bakerloo has always been a very significant tube line for me as my Mothers parents lived just around the corner from Lambeth North, they lived in ex Southern Railways flats called Campbell Buildings, so I was familiar with it from my very earliest years, till the late 1970's, I remember the old gated lifts where you could see the circular shaft sections through them, they were just like the train tunnel sections.
As a youngster in the 50's, I can remember the Bakerloo terminating at Watford Junction - near to where we lived. I always wondered why the terminus retrenched to Harrow.
How does he make so many videos?!?! Somehow Jago makes 3X as many videos that are twice the quality of professional youtubers, and I think he even has a regular job!
Rambling on, Mr H? Come, come! How can such perfectly focussed dissertations ever be justly described as 'rambling on'? No Sir, I beg to differ. Expatiating, expounding, or elaborating, perhaps. But 'rambling' never. And if others differ, then let us ramble in contented harmony. I remain, Sir, Simon T (well, I would, wouldn't I?)
He rambles along the underground network, both tube and sub-surface.
That surely qualifies as rambling on.
But he does also expound etc so as you suggest, we shall all ramble in harmony, at least until our tummies rumble, less harmoniously.
He rambled on through the Rotherhite Tunnel
Hope your *cough* "business meeting" went well, and your friend al dont find himself in Shropshire north lol.
He might end up exiled to Oswestry - let the punishment fit the crime, say I!
If his name is Al cue Paul Simon. 🎶😁 Business meeting / party. 😆
Did you know that if you type Bakerloo, it's not in the dictionary so it gets underlined? I should really add it to mine.
East Lane is the main road near to North Wembley Station, hence the original idea for the name.
Wembley Central is now underground under a shopping precinct and has been since the late Sixties, before that it was a canopied station under a bridge. The only parts of the original station that still exist, are the platforms and the staircases, one of which still has its windows, because it faces outwards. The Wembley For Sudbury name appeared on the original thirties building which was knocked downed to build the new hotel and flats, in the redevelopment of the Wembley Central shopping precinct. There is still an original thirties building on the other side of the road bridge outside the station, used by local businesses. There are also still the remains of tiles from the original station entrance, which had public telephone booths and noticed attached to them, on the wall of a building in the street, next to the current entrance.
There is a lovely little park next to Embankment Station.
The Jubilee Line platforms at Charing Cross are still available in emergencies and can be reached when needed.
Jago references that Paul Simon song in every episode, come to think of it: "You are the -------- to my ---------". And, it's been a while since I was back, but don't ALL public telephones in London have notices of a somewhat personal nature attached to them - or has modern technology rendered such self-promotion obsolete?
If his name was Al (Paul Simon) then he'd have been sat on a station platform in the North of England writing a song about being headed home...
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Best Surfshark add so far!! Great video as always. Merry Christmas to you.
Bushey Station, which is on the now-abandoned section of the Bakerloo to Watford Junctjon, still served by the Overground and LNWR trains on the West Coast Main Line, used to be "Bushey & Oxhey." During WW2, when signs were commonly being painted out to make things .more difficult for potential spies party to an invasion, they blanked out the names but left the "&" uncovered. The station became known in railway circles as "Ampersand!!"
That no 10 joke at the start killed me 🤣
My grandfather lived in Harlesden and worked at Willesden (Acton Lane) power station. Always odd to us kids that he walked from Harlesden Gardens to Willesden Junction to get the train to Harlesden to work at Willesden power station. Small things…
I can't wait for the Waterloo and City version of this series
Well, it has had one name change...
@@JagoHazzard
lol...
Two things you're good at: rambling and making sponsor plugs.
The curious thing about Wembley Central is that although it's central to Wembley it's probably the furthest of 3 stations from Wembley! Wembley Stadium (rail) being nearest and Wembley Park after that.
There used to be an even nearer station to the stadium called Wembley Stadium The current Wembley Stadium station was called Wembley Hill. It was at the back of the old stadium, on a loop that allowed trains from Marylebone to return to Marylebone without reversing. A very efficient way of getting many passengers to and from the stadium quickly.
Always enjoy the bakerloo line, think it's the old trains and the fact it's deep level is what I really enjoy. Some of the lines like the metropolitan line don't always feel like the tube experience because it's a mix of above surface or just below. I remember visiting London as a kid and we'd only ever need to get the district line but it never felt the same.
Funny you should mention Charing Cross and its associated name changes as I did one of the Hidden London tours they do there, and they also talked about the slightly mad naming history of the stations along Strand.
I’d highly recommend those tours; they are fantastic.
That was not a business meeting you were going to, it was your friends Christmas Party I saw the picture in the paper.
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No it wasn’t! I left the party that didn’t happen early!
Come come my dear fellow.
If this was the case we would have photographic evidence of what Mr.Hazzard looks like. Since no such evidence exists (anywhere come to that) the only conclusion that can be reached is that Mr.Hazzard did not attend a party that did not happen.
Would it be too much to ask for the Conservatives to be a party that stops happening?
I'm telling you, I'm so funny I should have my own show.
Bloody hell, Jago, that was the very first time I watched an infomercial for the exact length of time! It’s a true pleasure to even see your narration about secret spilling Al, ending at Downing Street number 10!!!
Thanks! I like to have fun with the sponsorships.
Best pairing of B roll to ad read EVER.
After a hard week at work, what better way to see the weekend in, with a jago classic production.
When you state, 'combine the Bakerloo and Northern lines at Trafalgar Square', the Northern line station was called Strand.
So, Strand/Trafalgar Sq. were renamed Charing Cross when Jubilee line was added, making sense since it served directly into Charing Cross mainline BR station.
Enjoy your wine and cheese 😉
Enjoy the party errrr business meeting I mean of course
Dare I ask, is Elephant and Castle on a trunk line?
It has a lot of wrinkles and a great memory 😉
I once met someone who worked in an office across the street from the station, but he never liked to mention the room at the Elephant.
I remember my (ex) wife coming home one day and some chap had asked her for directions to the Elephant and Animal. She never called the Elephant and Castle anything else after that.
QI-style sirens for that knee-jerk quip.
That vertical garden on the side of Elephant and Castle is pretty impressive but I wouldn't like to be the person who gets the job of doing the mowing!
Thanks for the jibber jabber that added to the length of this video. You know that longer is always better, just ask your significant other...
The Bakeloo Charing Cross station probably should be renamed back to Trafalgar Square, as it's a long way from the mainline station or the Northern Line, but really convenient for Trafalgar Square!
Nobody can make rambling as interesting as you Jago so please "carry on rambling" hey that could be a good name for a film
Always interesting stuff, (padding tonnes included) . Hope your business meeting had some cheese and wine.
Until I started watching this channel I had no idea that so many Underground stations had changed their names. It's fascinating that management seem to have difficulty making up their minds, and why they thought changing names would increase revenue. One name change I'd like to see is Latimer Road: it's on Bramley Road and that should be its name, in my opinion.
Loved the opening advert!
Love the Partygate reference at the beginning.
I do hope your friend “Al” enjoyed his wine and cheese gathering and it didn’t in anyway affect his job 😆
Turns out all of Al's mates 'just happened to be passing' tired and emotional colleagues without noticing.
I remember Embankment being called Charing Cross. Do these people realise the subtle but powerful emotional forces at work when familiar landmarks change their identity..
Nothing makes me feel more old than people talking about Aldwych Station like it's sometime from the Neolithic. I used to use it!
Hi Jago, cheers for this, very interesting. I myself am born n Guernsey (a little island) but I have a London background. My father, his father and again his father (1863) were all born in London. Perhaps even further back, I dont know. Anyway, as a child and youth whenever we flew over to London (quite often actually - this was in the 1960s and 70s) we stayed at affordable guest houses with proper breakfast at Kensington Gardens (?). The tube station was "Edgeware Road"(Bakerloo Line). I remember at one end of the tube station there was a lift (which my mother hated). Wonder if it is still the same station? Havent been there since 1983 when I wanted to show my girlfriend from Berlin (now wife) around London and looked for accomodation there. It had changed at lot. Proprietors of most places were asian, i.e. Indian.
You could have put a spanner in the works and spoke about the old extension to Watford & Stanmore
The Stanmore extension is getting some attention in a video I have in the works for January...
Ah yes, I did wonder if Bushey and Carpenders Park might possibly get mentioned, but I suppose old extensions would get even more complex.....
Top man!, thank you for supplying such great content. Reminds me of my younger days when roaming around London
Yay, old timey pictures! I like looking for old time pictures of familiar places, then I go on google maps to see how the area's changed. I'm such a happy nerd(^-^)
Nice to see the London Eleanor Cross in the video 👍
Jago, with regard to rambling on irreverently, I'm sure my fellow subscribers would join me in encouraging you to employ recidivism to this tendency.
New ending credits screen. Very nice!
Having lived in places variously served by Liverpool Street, Euston, St Pancras, and Kings Cross, the Bakerloo has always been a very mysterious line for me, never having needed it despite visiting all kinds of places in London, One day I think I'll just ride on it to remove the mystery!
Jago, I suspect by the time you have finished going through the name changes, they will have changed and it will be time to start again. That's a beautifully designed London Bus. Instead of being a big square box, it has this retro softer, curved appearance. 01:52 Really, that bus does look beautiful.
Harrow & Wealdstone - two names that send shivers down the spines of those who have read the history and seen the photos of 1952. I first read about it as a teenager, in the 1970s from a book by O.S. Nock. Only the horror of Quintinshill and Armagh compare.
After viewing your past vignettes on the never ending name change goings on, I'm no longer surprised. Even if it is the bleeding obvious. Oh god, here it comes ..... 05:25
Thanks again Jago, you're gem.
"Only the horror of Quintinshill and Armagh compare."
I'd add Lewisham (1957) to that list. If the driver of the train approaching on the overhead bridge hadn't pulled up just in time .... The Tay Bridge collapse was pretty horrific too; only one survivor - the engine.
Or even the Infanta to my Castile?
Love your videos and your humour is exquisite
In 1915 when some stations were renamed, was that because surplus letters were needed for the war effort ?
No, it was to confuse the Germans, if they invaded.😎
@@henrybest4057 That was the Great Western , adding Road to every location (Did Jago ever suss that even Edgware Road falls into that category). If Boris was so keen on Classics why did he not rename every station with its latin name - Stane Street, for example for Tooting Broadway , Watling Street for Edgware Road
Thanks Jago Nice one 👍
A “business meeting” at number 10 😂
I do hope this “business” meeting wasn’t held over cheese and wine festivities at number 10… I forget the rest of the address
Number 10 Downing... Stroot. Yeah, that’s it.
Excellent SurfShark ad at the beginning. My regards to your friend Al, if he's still in his job by the time you read this.
Glad to learn after all these years that I wasn’t alone in finding the name Bakerloo to be decidedly downmarket.
Ooh. I "did" the entire Bakerloo Line on Monday, having travelled to H&W on the Overground. It's a bit like TfLs own heritage railway, really.
Being good at rambling on irrelevantly seems like a very useful skill if you're spending time at 10 Downing Street.
I like the joke at the start of the video, for Surfshark. Going into number 10.
Well, it could be much worse than just Paddington being named "Great Western!" Could you imagine Victoria being named "London, Brighton & South Coast and London, Chatham & Dover???" lol
At my school in the 1950s, some of us chose to pronounce Wealdstone as Feldstein (fieldstone), as we had travelled to de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steinfeld_(Oldenburg)#St%C3%A4dtepartnerschaften on a couple of school trips to Europe, 1954 & 1956, IIRC?
You've changed the 'end bit'. Nice, but I prefer the departing tube train, xxx
It may return. I’m experimenting.
Because Kennington Road was a fair hike from Kennington.
Err, I think Edgware Road vs Edgware Road vs Edgware beats that...
I've done the Bakerloo from Elephant & Castle up to Paddington, and technically I've done Willesden Jn to Harrow & Wealdstone, but I did those on the overground so I can't really count it. I really like the interiors of the bakerloo stock, the brown version of the moquette plus the leather is awesome, plus the transverse seating unique to that stock is nice. Except the exteriors are really getting worn down...
I just walked from Willesden Junction to Willesden Green for another video, that’s a trudge.
Yea I get the 159 alot and there is quite a few stops between Kennington and Kennington Road/Imperial War Museum (basically Lambeth North next to Lower Marsh/Waterloo)
I like hearing Jago "rambling on." Soothing..
You ramble beautifully, Jago!
Despite whatever the developers want to do, we ill always name that crossroads 'The Elephant and Castle'. We will always name it with a smile, for we know its history, we know the pub and we know the people who make it special. You may take London's buildings but you will never take its people or its stories and traditions. Long live the Elephant.
come on Jago! I am getting Yerkes withdrawal...When you said "too American" I thought Yippee..but then disappointment...
A new credits clip cool
Blimey! Not every day that you have a subtle George Benson lyric sound out on a tube video! 😜
Brilliant 🤣😂😅
ooooh ! Hazzardous Productions . i like it
I see Paddington couldn't bear to change its name................
If you call Harrow & Wealdstone “Harold Wilson”, it’s exactly the same.
Ramble on sir!
Love the reference to Boris Johnson
Great video sir!
I love the advert. You don't perchance have friends in high places; such as Private Eye?
Alas no. I’m a rogue agent.
Just curious, when did Black Friday sales become a thing in the UK?
You can call me Al
As a child I thought it was Mary Le Bone.
Like an English girl with a vaguely French name.
When are you going to do the name changes on the Waterloo and City line? Perhaps a video for the beginning of the 4th month next annum? (edit: Corrected line name)
Well, it has had at least one name change.
Don’t forget the numerous W&C ghost stations for that video at the beginning of April 😉
Surely if you start at the other end it becomes the City and Waterloo Line?
The trains always look so clean ,are there no graffiti painters on the underground ?
Who else was shook about the bakerloo line name change was just shortened bakertreet and Waterloo
I am from Wembley and Wembley Central is my home station!
Thanks Jago for another interesting vid. I'm surprised it's still called a tube train.
you dont need to bake a loo, it's sufficient to put it in the microwave for 2 minutes. Toasty.
How did the part…. Business meeting go 😂 great video
Jago, while the way you ramble on about the railway system, if you went rambling in the countryside you'd go for a walk from Rainham to Grays and end up in North Berwick before you stopped wandering around.
A another piece of interesting story 🦋🦋🦋 thanks 🦋🦋🦋