it's similar to that one video about how girls wanted men to 'fck off', and men did 'fck off' and went their own way leaving the girls. people were concerned that lifestyles and hobbies surrounding videogames was undesirable, so the gamers went against it and opted for better ways to keep what they love doing whilst proving everyone wrong. society asked for it, and here we are i guess.
People thought league players couldnt watch a 15 minute well made documentary but will watch worlds for 8 hours? Of course league players will watch content this awesome
back in 2019 i was rejected from all 4 branches of the military for my bad eye sight i was gold nova in csgo the military lost a good potential soldier that day
People don't seem to understand how insanely cheap it is to do a publicity stunt compared to offering services/salaries to thousands of people on a monthly basis.
@@zenderas1434 The point isnt that we should care about their money. Its that they care exclusively about their money and providing for their soldiers doesnt make them any
You'd be surprised what you can do when you put your mind to it. Not saying the military is the best or a good option, just saying you are more capable than you give yourself credit, I'm sure.
I’m crying lmao. Ex military here and Dong Huap is going in on all the right places.I never comment on TH-cam and you got me to speak. Well said and well done.
Eh idc I'm a gamer, im football player,wrestler,track,who's played since I was 6yrs old to 17 now I'm 19 and I have my mind set on the marines or army..
@@riskfactor5686 nah I will ...marines or army ,cause in navy airforce or national guard you have to be smart and nerdy 🤓 while the marines are for grunts like me
Honestly, the biggest part of why the military Is getting fewer recruits is because everyone knows how trash it is now. The availability of information and the ease of calling bullshit on all the promises recruiters give you is why many people see the army as a joke option. The only people who make it good in the army stay long term past the 4years and dip strategy most people do to get free college and other benefits. I myself have had to call/text at least 10 recruiters/bots to stop texting/calling me within the last few years. So you can tell they're getting desperate for people when they won't even unlist your number.
Everyone knows how trash everything is now. When I was younger I remember cartoons that celebrated cops, firefighters, the military, etc. as heroes, or someone to aspire to be. Rescue Heroes and GI Goe comes to mind, even if they were mainly there to sell toys. The only industry where I think any human optimism, inspiration, or wonder is left is outer space, NASA, etc. It's the only industry left that seems to really be about the betterment and advancement of humanity, and hasn't yet been shown to be irreparably corrupted by greed and corporatization.
I got out of the military a little over 10 years ago. I could see how terrible the management of the military was going. Everything was being "corporatized." From your chain of command acting like middle-managers to the move of retirement to more of a 401k matching. Who in their right-mind would want to be at a shitty company where you can't actually quit?
Unironically. If they showed the Clones from Star Wars the Clone Wars and said "You could have Brothers like these in the military". It would single handedly be the greatest ad for 2023. We're more alone than ever before, thanks to social media making us acutely aware of how lonely we are compared to other people. the sense of brotherhood would be the greatest seller.
The thing about gamers is...most of them have quite a bit of free time and have seen at least a couple of videos about how veterans get treated, they have also played enough videogames to know how easily a pawn NPC soldier dies, and being real life they will not be the main character, nor will they be able to respawn. So it's a hard no
I once heard someone say that since their 15 yo nephew is into CoD they suggest to him that he should join the army... like he doesn't know that games are made for entertainment and real life has real consequences
Forgot to also mention the 22 suicides a day the military sees. We are plagued by a even more serious issue than all those things but they definitely attribute. Lost a buddy to suicide 2 years ago. It's sad to think that he actually felt that trapped.
Military and suicide go hand in hand sadly and nobody is doing anything about it. God forbid you seek help, “oh you’re suicidal?” No more job opportunities, no more drivers licenses and say goodbye to owning a gun… it’s a joke
I’m a dietetics masters and dietetic intern studying to be a dietitian. There was a was a nutrition summit in DC for the first thing in like 30ish years. They talked about the obesity epidemic and malnutrition (yes, being obese is a form of malnutrition). Basically, the obesity epidemic is now a national security issue. Scary stuff.
I’m sure the fact that our medical system is more focused on “fix the problem” instead of “address the cause” and more in line with what they can make to sell drugs doesn’t help
But why make it an issue of national concern when they can spin it as body positivity and make it a good thing instead? Yeah let's go with that! hehe yeah boiii body positivity
Reminds me of how in about 2011 they had a game you could play at state fairs that if you did well you got a card that told you how much value you had to the military.
One of the main reasons recruiting is in the tank is because of transparency. The once mythical image the military had is gone. People know the score. It's just another job.
If the military paid 6 figures, I'd actually be forced to consider it heavily despite being a low income gamer working a minimum wage job who doesn't want to die. That's just too much money (that I don't need a degree and years of experience for) to ignore. And that says volumes about how well that tactic would work for recruitment
It would work really well but the problem is that America already spends more then any other country on its military and a big part of that is salaries which are a constant no matter what . Increasing that is not easy to do for political reasons. Compared to other countries US servicemen are payed very well.
@@ScaryClown338 nah. Bulk of it goes to military contracts for shit the military doesn’t even want/use. Do some research into this topic. It’s pretty Fucking gross
@@thewildcardperson which country are you talking about cuz it's not a thing in most of the countries as far as I can remember. edit: I researched and found out that only about 11 countries in the world Where Military Services Are Compulsory so yeah your take is wrong, most countries rely on voluntary service.
Funny thing is that as far as my recent experiences go, the coast guard instructors absolutely yell at you non-stop, even while you eat your lunch in the mess.
One of my friends is in the army. He said it's important to yell all the time and you impress your superiors. You have to get used to the yelling from the start. If I'm not mistaken they train you to yell so later when you're in the field it's hard to understand the others if they don't yell. Imagine how loud you have to be to cover explosions and gunfire.
I forget but i think i read somewhere that drill sargeants will treat people alot harsher than anything shown on camera, that they play their behaviour down for the camera lol.
12 years army. I was in the army eSports server at the very start. Like before it was even made I had made contact with the NCOIC that had made the post on Reddit. Everything you said was true. Also I heard many people suggest that the army eSports tryouts was rigged. The army doesn't care about you being a gamer. Overseas your signal will be shit. I had 300 ping while deployed. Even when not deployed barracks wifi is trash. Unplayable.
@@localhobo5362 also, it was just a survey of about 1400 across 61 countries and participants were "esports players" whatever the hell that is. A kind of broad survey that at best serves to indicate further research may be necessary but hardly worth citation. Just an unnecessary speculation kinda. The US population is unhealthy and crap food is dumped on them for cheap and the military is desperate for recruits from anywhere they can get them.
My sister joined the Navy by her own decision. 2 weeks later she wanted out. It was until she broke her arm after being blasted by an F18, she got the OK to be dismissed. She told me as word got around her aircraft carrier, she'd see people lining up behind jets.
"Gamers have no attention span." Bruh, how comes they can pay way too much attention to games? Good thing you didn't listen to those people, because these videos are honestly interesting and entertaining to watch - and that's how you grab somebody's attention. It isn't all just short tiktoks.
"Gamers have ruined attention span" is from the same propaganda book that gave us "Videogames create school shooters" Claims with only correlations instead of provable causes. The gamer community has on average more ADD, ADHD and autistic people than other hobbies. That's why it seems they have low attention rates while its actually just more people with predespositions that cause lower attention spans. They have found a videogame at a shooters house and instead of looking into all plausible causes they hyperfixated onto video games and made it their strawman.
@@Stachelbeeerchen "Video games create school shooters" BUT the school shooters all have a few things in common. Drug usage, depression, broken families, and DONT FORGET the fbi cia alphabet soup people have these people on a watch list as they tend to have a history of sus stuff going well before the shooting goes on. So in theeeoory they shoooould be able to get a response team or sooooomething done about it riiiiight? Plus incompetent slow ass police responses to the shooting, which could probably helped if there were teachers/security people TRAINED on how to deal with these situations. Because 5 minutes for the police to get there is 5 minutes for the shooter to go on a killing spree. Every damn minute and second is what can make the difference between life and death. But I mean blanket blaming VIDEO GAMES, HA, for school shootings is retarded and ignorant. How come we never hear about the other more probable cause of these incidents. Improper parenting, drug abuse, broken families, depression, etc. On another conspiracy theory note, its kinda weird that a bit of mass shooters tend to convert to Islam hmm?
I'm not sure if this is another factor, but a good other reason I was discouraged from the military due to my JROTC class. I was forced into it by my stepfather, but while the Staff Sargent was wonderful, the other students left a sour taste in my mouth due to how an overwhelming amount of the other students were people I would rather not have in the military. Some of them were absolutely convinced that the second they join the Army, they will become these super elite soldiers from Call of Duty and won't need to put in much effort to do so, while others had an adverseness with authority that made it exceedingly difficult for them to cooperate either with anyone else, equal or superior or otherwise. It was so bad that on Veteran's Day when we should have done a march and ceremony to honor the Veterans, 90% of the JROTC class couldn't even march in a straight line, and also most of them didn't care enough to bring their uniform. I felt embarrassed just being around them. Then there is the fact that one of the most memorable students was a lifelong bully who even in JROTC continued to try to pick on and beat the shit out of people simply for a laugh, and would go out of his way to cause trouble anytime the Staff Sargent was not looking. Honestly, the only reason I didn't get picked on much in JROTC by him was that I informed the 4th year students, who actually gave a shit about the class, and they stuck up for me. And I thank them for that. Though ultimately, pay and mental health aside, my two main reasons for not joining the military were that my views didn't align with the military's... that and the fact that I am actually autistic to the point that communication is an issue for me.
I’ve noticed that JROTC and the military disproportionately target people on the autism spectrum. I’m also autistic and was constantly pestered about it by recruiters and older members at my school. It always struck me as creepy/predatory, like maybe they had good intentions but maybe they also knew that my autism made me more susceptible to a military lifestyle and wanted to take advantage of that. Either way it’s fuckin weird
@@WastePlace I never noticed the Autism targeting, though that may be because what put me in JROTC was my stepfather, who was unaffiliated with the military. The closest to affiliation was a biological abusive father who was in the military but tended to beat him with a belt when not on deployment over otherwise minor things, which in turn translated to the said stepfather of mine having a hair trigger for anger and several times wanting to devolve to the "beat kid to teach lesson" mindset. I think the only reason he didn't was that my biological mom was right there and had zero patience for laying a finger on me. That didn't stop him from degrading me every chance he got. My Staff Sargent was also very well aware of my autism. To the point that in various meetings regarding my autism and the counseling I was going through to be able to better cope with NT people, he was frequently called in to give his own input. I don't know if he was actually trying to get me to join outright. But coming to think of it, he almost never attempted to encourage me to join the military, despite me being the one he interacted with the most in that class. So I wonder if as a result, he knew better than to attempt to recruit someone with as many problems as I do into the military. As for pestering outside of that class, I was a lot, but I wound up dismissing it because it was not just Autistic people, but EVERYONE was pestered to join the military. To the point that at least once a year in high school, I went to a mandatory event at an auditorium or a variant of those recruitment trailers to listen to those recruiters try to convince us to join the military before prying our phone number and info out of us. Usually with a dose of the pre-"woke" ads and boasting followed by going on about friends, adventure, life, how forgiving the military is in reality to new recruits, and the salary and benefits of being in the military.
I know who it was that got Basic Training in Fort Benning’s Basic Training/OSUT recruit cycles to change to what it is now. It was once and traditionally a Hell Week type atmosphere at Fort Benning that was a carryover from the Draft Era of the Army. Abuse was rampant and new recruits often got to their new units with a lot of distrust and fear of Non-Commissioned officers. Leading to distrust and violence towards those NCO’s. The person who spearheaded the “First 100 yards” concept for OSUT training, and then the rest of Army recruit training, was a former Drill Sargeant of mine. He was notoriously hateful, vindictive, and unfair. He stood out amongst the other Drill Sargeants who were also tough but not unfair. He tormented a few recruits into quitting and getting ELS’d because of his flawed concept of not wanting what he perceived as weakness in his cycles. If you appeared weak he targeted you and he did it to a particular recruit the most. Constantly he targeted the guy and when the time came for the Live Fire Night Infiltration course that guy fired his weapon at him. If the guy was a better shot he would’ve killed the Drill Sargeant that night. I’m sure he’s had a long time to think about that and in turn he did become a good, fair, and caring leader and when he got to a TRADOC command billet he proposed a study and found out that recruits from Fort Benning left with distrust of leadership because of disproportionately unfair practices that developed from the old culture of doing things. He was lambasted for it by the veteran community but if only they were there to see the catalyst of it all.
You may have good points. But what I've heard from boots on the ground is that Command is disconnected from reality and have their heads up each other's asses where they get ideas for implementation. That it has always been this way and that trying to be actually competent could get you kicked out because you make them look bad.
This is why i love your channel for all this years. Best YT Reporter i ever saw in my life, i a appreciate for the quality of the contented and how you handle documentary's. Small channel but great work mind.
@@curtisedwards9573 and still US has third largest Army in the World, while being third largest country by population. Considering how much more technologically advanced US army is, compared to the rest of the world, Uncle Sam has enough troops
One industry in which I think more automation and replacing people with robots would probably be a benefit. Eventually, instead of fighting with people, we can just have international Robot Wars competitions.
I came from a low income family and I was straight up told i would be stupid to try and make a career in the military, most of the ppl i know that went into the military joined for 1 term, got higher education and then either went into a good job in the civilian sector or went to work for a mercenary group like blackwater because they paid so much better than the us military
The only scenario where I can see gamers being particularly useful is with drones. Which is highly specialistic and not meant for masses. They are used to the most sedentary lifestyle one could have most of the time, they constantly seek quick dopamine rushes which makes them impatient and undisciplined... And being a gamer doesn't necessarily make you skilled
Almost just in time for the michigan shooting It's amazing how you can throw a dart at a calendar and it's always gonna land on a 7 day range from a similar incident in the US
@@kokorochacarero8003 💀💀💀 are you for real bruh. as a outsider i hear of these things like every month or so and i still think they are many you saying there are more than that
@@siliconhawk yeah, it's insane. It sounds insane to anybody from outside the US But what's more insane is that some americans consider them something normal. They think of it as "the price of muh freedom" There's even a medical tourniquet market for school children. Imagine sending your child to school and packing a tourniquet on their backpacks just in case somebody gets shot I don't even know how parents can live with that worry on the back of their minds. There's even training programs for teachers to learn how to deal with what they call "active shooters" It's THAT bad and it'll only get worse
"gamers don't have atention spam" dude! they really have no idea of how much you have to study and practice if your plaing RTS, RPG, and pretty much any competitive on-line game...
Yeah I joined about a year and a half ago and it was a nice experience at first but now it’s just always long hours and little money and I can’t quit :/ year and a half left all is well. It makes sense why recruiting is down so much because I want to get out for multiple reasons and not really many to stay in.
@@lordsusano7667 Thanks for that. I also should be more positive about the situation too. However if someone isn’t absolutely sure they don’t want to join then they shouldn’t 😅
Well I think the highest point to why gamers will never join the military, is that on average. Most nerds aren't like, hardcore right wingers who believe that being a solider is "honorable" we have all seen saving private Ryan. We all know being a trooper is being a pawn. Nobody wants to be a pawn anymore lol. I'm not throwing my life away for my government to treat me poorly 🤣🤣🤣
Right?! Gamers are min-maxers. We can measure the effort needed to invest into a career vs the payout of that effort. And we'd probably tolerate bodily injury up to a max of a papercut in an office job. MAYBE sputtering oil out of a fryer. Why tf would we ever take the tradeoff of bullets, bombs, and PTSD for... well, I honestly don't even know what the military offers as 'benefits', but it certainly can't be worth it, otherwise people would talk more about their benefits than how shitty VA is, etc.
@@ddranimestyle brother i served 5 years in the marine corps and got out now making 35+/hr going into the military is the ultimate min max I deployed but never saw combat i was able to travel for free have experiences i would never dream of being able to afford while acquiring a reputable resume all while getting paid to do so for 5 years yeah life can be shitty at times but at least i had friends there with me some of which im still in contact with til this day yes the military is the bottom of the barrel at times and for lost cause but I've seen a lot of lost causes who were just wasted talent the military has a place for them too never forget man or ma'am literally when all else fails you can always join the military so the guys and gals there literally consider each other all they got deep down it's a family
@@ZachTheZenith i think a big problem too is peoples’ lack of exposure to the military. i come from an area with large military presence so it’s not too uncommon for ppl to join here, but i’ve noticed from a lot of ppl’s comments on this video and just what’s generally said online that many don’t really have an idea of what ppl ACTUALLY do in the military. so many ppl don’t realize that it’s just like another 9-5 and think that saving private ryan is an accurate depiction of the day to day life of the average service member. glad you were able to use your service to propel you to a good salary, currently using my TA to pursue my education and perhaps move on to other things 🤝🏽
Fun Fact: The GERMAN military has also been recruiting(or at least trying to) gamers at all kinds of gaming events/shows since they stopped having mandatory service. This resulted in some rather fun situations like the Military recruiting stand sitting next to one for an obvious cartoony childrens game XD
That too, but the main reason is that we have no reason to, if people can't loot and plunder, why bother? The salary isn't worth it, the life style isn't worth it, the rewards isn't worth it, people only join because we get to legally murder, but they banned the most crucial reason why men go to war, now we're an global police with an image to protect, the troops are completely unnatural in purposes and action, "you're telling to die and kill, like an mashine, but we can't even keep the ears of the people we killed?", doesn't it sound ridiculous? You can kill them, you can cripple them, but you can't keep any thing from the person you legally killed, it's like the death of someone is political, and doesn't matter in the least. back when war made sense, if you killed an womans husband/father/brother, you get to keep them, but now they are just left in ruins, with no one to support them, it’s like slaughter without an reason. If they allowed us to bring home war trophies and slaves, plenty of men will line up to join, since men join the military to get rights no normal civilans have.
I was raised in a more wealthy family & play lots of games. I joined the military because I wanted to learn a job instead of go to college first. I wanted to learn how to be an adult on my own :)
I think part of them trying to appeal to more left leaning demographics may be a long term plan. One of the issues the military has with recruitment is that people are way more likely to join if they have a member of the family or someone close in their community that has previously enlisted. I don't remember the statistics off hand but it's pretty high. So they keep pulling from these small pools of people which tend to lean rural and conservative.
I think I agree. More cities than not tend to lean more left wing, ironically that's where most people live. Many make fun of that 'Sarah and her two moms' ad but fail to realize is that it sympathizes with an ever growing demographic.
@@nushia7192 I mean, one never knows unless they try. I’ve seen a couple TH-camrs that took the risk to breakout of their niches, and they’ve gotten more successful from it.
You should do more of these, it's very refreshing to see you talking about something that isn't LoL related. I'm not from the US so I didn't know about any of this, pretty fucking interesting, and quality content once again, good job
You don't make less than flipping burgers, you make 2500 dollars a month in pure earnings, no housing, medical or food costs. So it's pure spending or saving money. Not that I would ever do it but it's not as bad as it sounds.
@@duitk Still not enough when you are expected to be called to war in case something happens. Why should you waste the best years of your life when instead you can go corporate and progress or go to college and there are many other options that will let you earn 6 figures by the time you are 35 if you start early enough even without much skill required at the beginning.
@@000petar000 most people never get to earn 35 dollars an hour, the average American household income, that is two working adults, is around 65k a year. You can do the math but most people never really make that much. I said I would still not go for the military but financially it's not as bad as it sounds, it's better than working retail since you get housing and food and healthcare covered while you are there. Honestly the problem is the physical and mental health risks, not just the danger of war but toxic culture and the host of PTSD people get from it.
@@duitk That's because majority of the people don't attempt to learn any skill or go get higher education that is actually well paid. Military cuts out your options, I am not saying that everyone makes 100k+ but it just isn't possible for you to make that much in military. Do you think about mandatory draft? If US goes to war people with no training aren't going to need to risk their life and if the situation is very dire and you are forcefully enlisted at that time, you'll still be safe while you go though training. You are going to stay at a base where US army decides to send you, while you can make requests, they can always overrule them. It is required of you to do much more compared to average job and you live in the base. You can't visit your family or if you aren't married before going to the army, there's no way you would get a girlfriend or wife while serving. I know that there are options that you can apply and live off base but I don't know the requirements and this has to be approved, you may not get approved. PTSD,disabilities and no one really cares after you after you are discharged. As it was stated in the video, you defended the country yet said country lets you be homeless, this is completely unacceptable. There are countless reasons that I could spend literally hours writing here for you but I'll stop here. Sure you can say that you get free food and roof over your head but with all of this that you will have to put up with, its not really worth for almost any amount of money. I Wouldn't even go to the army for 100k+ even if I was making minimum wage, its much better to at least have some freedom in your life instead of having none.
@@duitk Can't u do 2.5k as a cronstruction worker? I mean if u join the military it'll be more than 12hours a day of work right? And not just regular work it's more like HARD HAAARRD work.
I've been watching your channel since the beginning, I love league of legends. And ironically I'm currently a homeless veteran. This episode hit different lol
While watching this video my mom said I could transfer to a different school and join the school elective that has military training and gun training lol
I've been in the army for 4 years now, before this I dropped out of high school and played video games non-stop for about 4 years while living at my mom's house. The army really doesn't treat you that bad especially if you choose a POG mos. If you aren't really sure what you want to do with your life or have always thought about joining as a kid I would recommend giving it a try. If you quit within the first 6 months you will get marked as a "failure to adapt" and you won't have any bad paperwork follow you like a dishonorable discharge would but they also won't let you join again (probably). It is a fun experience as long as you have the disipline to learn how to do stuff and you can play well with others. I got stationed in Germany my first contract so I've spent the last 3 years touring europe and now that my duty station is in the US we are deploying to eastern europe so I'll get to go back and spend even more time over there. It's not a job for everyone but it's probably the best job I can recommend to a testosterone filled 20 year old looking for an adventurous lifestyle. If you are thinking about joining my advice would be to study all of the creeds for the stuff you want to do, get in shape before you show up (actually very important if you don't want to recycle basic training), and don't let the recruiter convince you to get a job you don't want to do (unless you are just joining for money then just grab the fattest signing bonus you can).
Hilarious hearing this. I joined the navy straight out of high school. I got a 96 on my ASVAB and my recruiter told me to go nuke. I asked him before hand if my prior medical history would disqualify me from joining (a prior suicide attempt) and he said not to mention it to anyone and i would be fine. Turns out i wasnt. 2 weeks into basic i get pulled to the side and told in the most backhanded way "we know youve been diagnosed with these things in the past, and if you dont tell us where you were diagnosed youre going to be sent to federal prison." thats not what was said exactly but thats what they meant, me being 17 and not wanting to ruin my life for someone to meet their quota for people recruited, i told them exactly what they wanted to know and was told i wasnt "fit for duty" then i was immediately pulled out of training and sent to "Ship 5" AKA Separations or SEPS. This was the most depressing place to be in. there was black mold growing in the showers, 168 dudes at a time inside of one big room filled with racks, and the only time we left the room was to go eat sack meals with moldy food until someone wrote a letter to their parents about the living conditions and we finally got access to the chow halls that everyone in training had access to. The worst part about SEPS was that you never knew when you were going to leave. there was a kid who had been in there for a year because his case was still being processed, and many more who had been in there for months. We were treated like subhuman animals because in everyone elses eyes we were quitters. I had my 18th birthday in SEPS, and ill never forget how alone i felt in that moment. I was motivated during training, and i was so sure that my future would be in the military... but they had kicked me out because they were worried id be another negative statistic. that was when i realized the government wasnt meant to protect its people, but themselves.
I'm an engineer, not a gamer, but I too get very engrossed in what I am doing. When you said gamers are thin because they eat less, I felt that deep because I too skip meals often, because I would rather continue working on my project than eat. I have been underweight my whole life, as mechanics is my love, and eating is an inconvenience.
Real Gamers tend to fast accidentally. I have come off of plenty of 14 hour League sessions only to realize I'm not exactly hungry after consuming all the salt from my own tears after getting slurs hurled at me all day. I don't know where I was going with this.
The us air force sponsor esl csgo tournaments, we saw it a few days ago at Katowice; I can't remember exactly what it is but they also have an us air force analysis or replay or award or something like that baked in where the commentators say that it's brought by them :D
Most gamers know Metal Gear or Spec Ops The Line, if there is one lesson you can get from those games is that war is hell, also that being part of the USA army tends to be ass.
As a Gamer and a person who wants to serve the military especially the Navy, I see this as a win win situation, every two days, I do a 3 minute plank, and a 1.5 mile run in 11-12 minutes, and sometimes below 11, like 2 runs ago, I got my pr of 10 minutes 17 seconds
There are also many kinds of games as well, like Doom where you tear apart enemies like they are made out of paper, Undertale where you can talk every monster out of battle and everything in between.
"but Donghuap, your solution costs real money, in stead of the peanuts we spend on the other stuff :( won't you pwease think of the miwwitawy budget. It's so low *puppy eyes emoji*"
Id say compulsory service should be a thing, but it should come with real world training that actually applies their real world counter parts. Combat medics who see and treat some of the worst injuries on a daily basis cant even qualify to be doctors let alone be EMTs . Benefits should also be big part of the incentive structure along with 6 figure salary. Also a compulsory service would make politicians less to push for wars since that would mean shipping their own kids off to die. This would also help reduce the toxic environments generated by anti government militias who like to cosplay as US servicemen.
"politicians less to push for wars since that would mean shipping their own kids off to die" Lol. oh how naive. you really think anyone remotely rich or powerful would require their kids to risk their lives? They would AT WORST get safe desk jobs.
I remember when I shot my first gun back in my day and it was pretty unrealistic. there no crosshairs, GUI, or nothing. the military needs to fix these guns if they want me to enlist
People don't understand how intense gaming can be. You sweat just from the anger of losing, you work out by throwing controllers, how do people not understand this.
I think gamers are skinnier is because gaming uses more brain power and you use more calories. When I was in the army in ait training, a high ranking officer said we are the smartest generation due to gaming. Gaming trains your reflexes and muscle and brain coordination which is what soldiers need lol P.S never join the military, life is to short to sacrifice yourself for rich people
And if the military didn't engage in morally unjustifiable acts, it definitely wouldn't have a recruitment problem. The military appeals to many people but many of these same people can't stand behind a military that invades other nations for corporate interests.
the army has way too many restrictions on recruitment, that's why they falling short and I am glad it's happening to them cause I tried so many times for 6 years straight to join the army in my early 20s and they would not accept me just because of a small tattoo of my mother's name on the lower part of my neck, it's crazy as hell cause I even passed their test and was eligible to join but got disqualified over and over again because of my mom's name on my neck which I think is crazy
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"Gamers on the other hand are somehow much more healthy than normal people" I never though I ever hear such a sentence 😂
It's not starvation... it's intermittent fasting, it's FINE.
We’re too lazy to eat
@@heychrisfox crackheads have been doing intermittent fasting and taking cold showers before it was trendy
@@wilkinlow ITS SO TRUE
it's similar to that one video about how girls wanted men to 'fck off', and men did 'fck off' and went their own way leaving the girls.
people were concerned that lifestyles and hobbies surrounding videogames was undesirable, so the gamers went against it and opted for better ways to keep what they love doing whilst proving everyone wrong.
society asked for it, and here we are i guess.
People thought league players couldnt watch a 15 minute well made documentary but will watch worlds for 8 hours? Of course league players will watch content this awesome
Implying the 8 hours is not on a different tab or second screen or as background noise unless it's an s tier team vs another s tier team
I'm confused, we spend an hour CSing doing nothing in League all the time. Who would even say that
We do have attention spans for the things we care about
What's the point of watching Worlds? If you're D2 and below, you won't realize a clue of what's actually going on in Worlds championship. Only
@@SorakaOTP462 Theres this thing called fun you should try it
back in 2019 i was rejected from all 4 branches of the military for my bad eye sight
i was gold nova in csgo the military lost a good potential soldier that day
My typical apex team mate
if i was a recruiter and knew you were gold nova i wouldn’t recruit either
@@VitandusEBK you missed the fcking joke 🤣
Wouldn’t they just tell you to get some glasses?
With prestige like that you'd be good for taskforce 141
All those gaming trucks and stuff are a teardrop compared to what they would need to spend to treat soldiers like human beings.
sure
but thats what governments and corporations do, they ignore the obvious solution and poke around trying to find a cheap dirty scumbag shortcut
People don't seem to understand how insanely cheap it is to do a publicity stunt compared to offering services/salaries to thousands of people on a monthly basis.
Can someone think of the warmongering government money?.??????
If they'd stop waging war, the money could go to the right place.
@@zenderas1434 The point isnt that we should care about their money. Its that they care exclusively about their money and providing for their soldiers doesnt make them any
Imagine having a fucking 23 year old gamer that has never left his basement like myself as a soldier 💀💀💀💀
You'd be surprised what you can do when you put your mind to it. Not saying the military is the best or a good option, just saying you are more capable than you give yourself credit, I'm sure.
Dude is okay I'm in the same boat 26 years in the basement never working out. Deadge
@@spencerrex7531 it was a joke... just sayin military aint for everyone ...
@@gunblade8123 I know and I agree, I would never join, either.
Drone operator
I’m crying lmao. Ex military here and Dong Huap is going in on all the right places.I never comment on TH-cam and you got me to speak. Well said and well done.
Thank you for your service! Live your best life
Military? That's sooo pog
Eh idc I'm a gamer, im football player,wrestler,track,who's played since I was 6yrs old to 17 now I'm 19 and I have my mind set on the marines or army..
@@Ricardorhino88 Don't do it. Look into Air Force or Air National Guard.
@@riskfactor5686 nah I will ...marines or army ,cause in navy airforce or national guard you have to be smart and nerdy 🤓 while the marines are for grunts like me
Honestly, the biggest part of why the military Is getting fewer recruits is because everyone knows how trash it is now. The availability of information and the ease of calling bullshit on all the promises recruiters give you is why many people see the army as a joke option. The only people who make it good in the army stay long term past the 4years and dip strategy most people do to get free college and other benefits. I myself have had to call/text at least 10 recruiters/bots to stop texting/calling me within the last few years. So you can tell they're getting desperate for people when they won't even unlist your number.
Everyone knows how trash everything is now. When I was younger I remember cartoons that celebrated cops, firefighters, the military, etc. as heroes, or someone to aspire to be. Rescue Heroes and GI Goe comes to mind, even if they were mainly there to sell toys. The only industry where I think any human optimism, inspiration, or wonder is left is outer space, NASA, etc. It's the only industry left that seems to really be about the betterment and advancement of humanity, and hasn't yet been shown to be irreparably corrupted by greed and corporatization.
@@ddranimestyle hey firefighters are still pretty cool bro
I got out of the military a little over 10 years ago. I could see how terrible the management of the military was going. Everything was being "corporatized." From your chain of command acting like middle-managers to the move of retirement to more of a 401k matching. Who in their right-mind would want to be at a shitty company where you can't actually quit?
@@ddranimestyle Firefighters are heroes though. In better countries they even side with the people against cops and their government
@@ddranimestyleEverything you said is right except for the thing about firefighter, they pretty chill
Unironically. If they showed the Clones from Star Wars the Clone Wars and said "You could have Brothers like these in the military". It would single handedly be the greatest ad for 2023.
We're more alone than ever before, thanks to social media making us acutely aware of how lonely we are compared to other people. the sense of brotherhood would be the greatest seller.
I relate
Na they need to do lgtbq ads instead.
They completely failed on that front though
@@botezsimp5808 are you slow?
I got your back, If you got my back.
The thing about gamers is...most of them have quite a bit of free time and have seen at least a couple of videos about how veterans get treated, they have also played enough videogames to know how easily a pawn NPC soldier dies, and being real life they will not be the main character, nor will they be able to respawn. So it's a hard no
I once heard someone say that since their 15 yo nephew is into CoD they suggest to him that he should join the army... like he doesn't know that games are made for entertainment and real life has real consequences
Forgot to also mention the 22 suicides a day the military sees. We are plagued by a even more serious issue than all those things but they definitely attribute. Lost a buddy to suicide 2 years ago. It's sad to think that he actually felt that trapped.
I'm very sorry for your loss, it's always sad to see this kinda stuff happen
There doing it after getting divorce raped.
lose a war.. get treated liek a loser
@@juanshaftpatel7488 You are a waste of flesh and oxygen. You are the scum of this earth. The appendix of our world. Unnecessary and inflammatory.
Military and suicide go hand in hand sadly and nobody is doing anything about it. God forbid you seek help, “oh you’re suicidal?” No more job opportunities, no more drivers licenses and say goodbye to owning a gun… it’s a joke
I’m a dietetics masters and dietetic intern studying to be a dietitian. There was a was a nutrition summit in DC for the first thing in like 30ish years. They talked about the obesity epidemic and malnutrition (yes, being obese is a form of malnutrition). Basically, the obesity epidemic is now a national security issue. Scary stuff.
Wait in 40 years when all the young people now are old, fat and can't walk.
I’m sure the fact that our medical system is more focused on “fix the problem” instead of “address the cause” and more in line with what they can make to sell drugs doesn’t help
But why make it an issue of national concern when they can spin it as body positivity and make it a good thing instead? Yeah let's go with that! hehe yeah boiii body positivity
Reminds me of how in about 2011 they had a game you could play at state fairs that if you did well you got a card that told you how much value you had to the military.
I remember that! I think the name was America's Army Proving Grounds
@@linknanami why do i vaguely remember that title?
@@linknanami wait that was a real army recruitment game? I remember thinking it looked cool.
Im lazy and very incompetent so i didn't even need to play it to know i got zero value lol
They targeted gamers. GAMERS!
Majority of guys in the military play video games. We also workout too. You can do both.
"Wanna shoot IRL?!"
he explained why. Turns out gamers are healthier than average person from low income family, for w/e reason.
GAMING
@@minimalsheep8900what?? People in the military are also people with hobbies and interests!?? Nooooo that’s just propaganda
One of the main reasons recruiting is in the tank is because of transparency. The once mythical image the military had is gone. People know the score. It's just another job.
If the military paid 6 figures, I'd actually be forced to consider it heavily despite being a low income gamer working a minimum wage job who doesn't want to die. That's just too much money (that I don't need a degree and years of experience for) to ignore. And that says volumes about how well that tactic would work for recruitment
It would work really well but the problem is that America already spends more then any other country on its military and a big part of that is salaries which are a constant no matter what . Increasing that is not easy to do for political reasons. Compared to other countries US servicemen are payed very well.
@@ScaryClown338 nah. Bulk of it goes to military contracts for shit the military doesn’t even want/use. Do some research into this topic. It’s pretty Fucking gross
@@ScaryClown338 lol yeah because consription is a thing else where
@@ScaryClown338 not really...
@@thewildcardperson which country are you talking about cuz it's not a thing in most of the countries as far as I can remember. edit: I researched and found out that only about 11 countries in the world Where Military Services Are Compulsory so yeah your take is wrong, most countries rely on voluntary service.
Funny thing is that as far as my recent experiences go, the coast guard instructors absolutely yell at you non-stop, even while you eat your lunch in the mess.
Thats because no one cares about the Puddle Patrol
As it should be
One of my friends is in the army. He said it's important to yell all the time and you impress your superiors. You have to get used to the yelling from the start. If I'm not mistaken they train you to yell so later when you're in the field it's hard to understand the others if they don't yell. Imagine how loud you have to be to cover explosions and gunfire.
I forget but i think i read somewhere that drill sargeants will treat people alot harsher than anything shown on camera, that they play their behaviour down for the camera lol.
@@gandalphf2026 this is true, marine corps still does the yelling though haha
Great video. As a gamer who also happens to be a vet, it's been disgusting the extent they will go to make the military life alluring
People will fight if they feel like there's something worth fighting for, nowadays npt much of that is left.
12 years army. I was in the army eSports server at the very start. Like before it was even made I had made contact with the NCOIC that had made the post on Reddit.
Everything you said was true. Also I heard many people suggest that the army eSports tryouts was rigged. The army doesn't care about you being a gamer. Overseas your signal will be shit. I had 300 ping while deployed. Even when not deployed barracks wifi is trash. Unplayable.
Trashy barracks wife? They should just advertise that!
@@ddranimestyle lol damn gotta fix that. I very much ment wifi
"Gamers are somehow healthier than the normal person" hahahaha
normal person who comes from low income families. not just average middle class or rich kid. Gamers are healthiest among poor kids
@@localhobo5362 We had games to distract us from silly basic human desires like being destitute, poor, and hungry... lol
@@localhobo5362 no, just compared to the average person. I'm pretty sure that's what the article cited was indicating.
@@localhobo5362 also, it was just a survey of about 1400 across 61 countries and participants were "esports players" whatever the hell that is. A kind of broad survey that at best serves to indicate further research may be necessary but hardly worth citation. Just an unnecessary speculation kinda. The US population is unhealthy and crap food is dumped on them for cheap and the military is desperate for recruits from anywhere they can get them.
My sister joined the Navy by her own decision. 2 weeks later she wanted out. It was until she broke her arm after being blasted by an F18, she got the OK to be dismissed. She told me as word got around her aircraft carrier, she'd see people lining up behind jets.
I remember getting those emails while I was active duty they had a discord and would hold try outs for different games. I thought that was pretty wild
Congratulations on the new sponsorship!!! That's awesome! You deserve it dong huap!! You r content has always has been awesome
"Gamers have no attention span." Bruh, how comes they can pay way too much attention to games? Good thing you didn't listen to those people, because these videos are honestly interesting and entertaining to watch - and that's how you grab somebody's attention. It isn't all just short tiktoks.
"Gamers have ruined attention span" is from the same propaganda book that gave us "Videogames create school shooters"
Claims with only correlations instead of provable causes.
The gamer community has on average more ADD, ADHD and autistic people than other hobbies. That's why it seems they have low attention rates while its actually just more people with predespositions that cause lower attention spans.
They have found a videogame at a shooters house and instead of looking into all plausible causes they hyperfixated onto video games and made it their strawman.
@@Stachelbeeerchen "Video games create school shooters" BUT the school shooters all have a few things in common. Drug usage, depression, broken families, and DONT FORGET the fbi cia alphabet soup people have these people on a watch list as they tend to have a history of sus stuff going well before the shooting goes on. So in theeeoory they shoooould be able to get a response team or sooooomething done about it riiiiight?
Plus incompetent slow ass police responses to the shooting, which could probably helped if there were teachers/security people TRAINED on how to deal with these situations. Because 5 minutes for the police to get there is 5 minutes for the shooter to go on a killing spree. Every damn minute and second is what can make the difference between life and death.
But I mean blanket blaming VIDEO GAMES, HA, for school shootings is retarded and ignorant. How come we never hear about the other more probable cause of these incidents. Improper parenting, drug abuse, broken families, depression, etc.
On another conspiracy theory note, its kinda weird that a bit of mass shooters tend to convert to Islam hmm?
Games are literally designed to be engaging lmao
@@Stachelbeeerchen Exactly! It's not us that have low attention spans it's the normie tiktok users
Gamers are not tiktok audiences, and anger happens to be a very, very effective method of keeping attention.
I'm not sure if this is another factor, but a good other reason I was discouraged from the military due to my JROTC class.
I was forced into it by my stepfather, but while the Staff Sargent was wonderful, the other students left a sour taste in my mouth due to how an overwhelming amount of the other students were people I would rather not have in the military. Some of them were absolutely convinced that the second they join the Army, they will become these super elite soldiers from Call of Duty and won't need to put in much effort to do so, while others had an adverseness with authority that made it exceedingly difficult for them to cooperate either with anyone else, equal or superior or otherwise. It was so bad that on Veteran's Day when we should have done a march and ceremony to honor the Veterans, 90% of the JROTC class couldn't even march in a straight line, and also most of them didn't care enough to bring their uniform. I felt embarrassed just being around them.
Then there is the fact that one of the most memorable students was a lifelong bully who even in JROTC continued to try to pick on and beat the shit out of people simply for a laugh, and would go out of his way to cause trouble anytime the Staff Sargent was not looking. Honestly, the only reason I didn't get picked on much in JROTC by him was that I informed the 4th year students, who actually gave a shit about the class, and they stuck up for me. And I thank them for that.
Though ultimately, pay and mental health aside, my two main reasons for not joining the military were that my views didn't align with the military's... that and the fact that I am actually autistic to the point that communication is an issue for me.
I’ve noticed that JROTC and the military disproportionately target people on the autism spectrum. I’m also autistic and was constantly pestered about it by recruiters and older members at my school. It always struck me as creepy/predatory, like maybe they had good intentions but maybe they also knew that my autism made me more susceptible to a military lifestyle and wanted to take advantage of that. Either way it’s fuckin weird
@@WastePlace I never noticed the Autism targeting, though that may be because what put me in JROTC was my stepfather, who was unaffiliated with the military. The closest to affiliation was a biological abusive father who was in the military but tended to beat him with a belt when not on deployment over otherwise minor things, which in turn translated to the said stepfather of mine having a hair trigger for anger and several times wanting to devolve to the "beat kid to teach lesson" mindset. I think the only reason he didn't was that my biological mom was right there and had zero patience for laying a finger on me. That didn't stop him from degrading me every chance he got.
My Staff Sargent was also very well aware of my autism. To the point that in various meetings regarding my autism and the counseling I was going through to be able to better cope with NT people, he was frequently called in to give his own input. I don't know if he was actually trying to get me to join outright. But coming to think of it, he almost never attempted to encourage me to join the military, despite me being the one he interacted with the most in that class. So I wonder if as a result, he knew better than to attempt to recruit someone with as many problems as I do into the military.
As for pestering outside of that class, I was a lot, but I wound up dismissing it because it was not just Autistic people, but EVERYONE was pestered to join the military. To the point that at least once a year in high school, I went to a mandatory event at an auditorium or a variant of those recruitment trailers to listen to those recruiters try to convince us to join the military before prying our phone number and info out of us. Usually with a dose of the pre-"woke" ads and boasting followed by going on about friends, adventure, life, how forgiving the military is in reality to new recruits, and the salary and benefits of being in the military.
@@YukimareThePsion woah
Damn, what state was that?
@@GalacticNovaOverlord Texas
I know who it was that got Basic Training in Fort Benning’s Basic Training/OSUT recruit cycles to change to what it is now. It was once and traditionally a Hell Week type atmosphere at Fort Benning that was a carryover from the Draft Era of the Army. Abuse was rampant and new recruits often got to their new units with a lot of distrust and fear of Non-Commissioned officers. Leading to distrust and violence towards those NCO’s. The person who spearheaded the “First 100 yards” concept for OSUT training, and then the rest of Army recruit training, was a former Drill Sargeant of mine. He was notoriously hateful, vindictive, and unfair. He stood out amongst the other Drill Sargeants who were also tough but not unfair. He tormented a few recruits into quitting and getting ELS’d because of his flawed concept of not wanting what he perceived as weakness in his cycles. If you appeared weak he targeted you and he did it to a particular recruit the most. Constantly he targeted the guy and when the time came for the Live Fire Night Infiltration course that guy fired his weapon at him. If the guy was a better shot he would’ve killed the Drill Sargeant that night. I’m sure he’s had a long time to think about that and in turn he did become a good, fair, and caring leader and when he got to a TRADOC command billet he proposed a study and found out that recruits from Fort Benning left with distrust of leadership because of disproportionately unfair practices that developed from the old culture of doing things. He was lambasted for it by the veteran community but if only they were there to see the catalyst of it all.
This documentary is turning out way more extensive than I expected from the title! Great, albeit slightly different, content as always.
You may have good points. But what I've heard from boots on the ground is that Command is disconnected from reality and have their heads up each other's asses where they get ideas for implementation. That it has always been this way and that trying to be actually competent could get you kicked out because you make them look bad.
I liked the 1 "Chinese" Wintrader section of the video
This is why i love your channel for all this years. Best YT Reporter i ever saw in my life, i a appreciate for the quality of the contented and how you handle documentary's. Small channel but great work mind.
The US army having too little people is such a funny idea, we probably have 15x anybody else and still think it's not enough
Higher military spending than the next five countries together... Just saying.
@@Stachelbeeerchen some of which are official US allies btw
We really don't. My unit has been short on people for the past 8 years.
@@curtisedwards9573 and still US has third largest Army in the World, while being third largest country by population. Considering how much more technologically advanced US army is, compared to the rest of the world, Uncle Sam has enough troops
One industry in which I think more automation and replacing people with robots would probably be a benefit. Eventually, instead of fighting with people, we can just have international Robot Wars competitions.
I had one of their trucks show up at my high school. My friends and I couldn't stop laughing about it.
I came from a low income family and I was straight up told i would be stupid to try and make a career in the military, most of the ppl i know that went into the military joined for 1 term, got higher education and then either went into a good job in the civilian sector or went to work for a mercenary group like blackwater because they paid so much better than the us military
The only scenario where I can see gamers being particularly useful is with drones. Which is highly specialistic and not meant for masses. They are used to the most sedentary lifestyle one could have most of the time, they constantly seek quick dopamine rushes which makes them impatient and undisciplined... And being a gamer doesn't necessarily make you skilled
Unless your gigachad gamer
You underestimate gamers, some are real masochists.
You'll be going to a regular university where you're only gonna worry about getting shot by one of your fellow classmates
Yikes
Almost just in time for the michigan shooting
It's amazing how you can throw a dart at a calendar and it's always gonna land on a 7 day range from a similar incident in the US
@@kokorochacarero8003 💀💀💀 are you for real bruh. as a outsider i hear of these things like every month or so and i still think they are many you saying there are more than that
@@siliconhawk yeah, it's insane. It sounds insane to anybody from outside the US
But what's more insane is that some americans consider them something normal. They think of it as "the price of muh freedom"
There's even a medical tourniquet market for school children. Imagine sending your child to school and packing a tourniquet on their backpacks just in case somebody gets shot
I don't even know how parents can live with that worry on the back of their minds. There's even training programs for teachers to learn how to deal with what they call "active shooters"
It's THAT bad and it'll only get worse
Now theyre happening every week or so 💀💀💀
"gamers don't have atention spam" dude! they really have no idea of how much you have to study and practice if your plaing RTS, RPG, and pretty much any competitive on-line game...
Yeah I joined about a year and a half ago and it was a nice experience at first but now it’s just always long hours and little money and I can’t quit :/ year and a half left all is well. It makes sense why recruiting is down so much because I want to get out for multiple reasons and not really many to stay in.
Wow, that sucks. I hope life gets better for you soon and you get relieved. Stay strong.
@@lordsusano7667 Thanks for that. I also should be more positive about the situation too. However if someone isn’t absolutely sure they don’t want to join then they shouldn’t 😅
@@xBlackHalo what are the consequences of breaching the contract early and leaving now? Do they fine you or you will lose benefits?
What are the reasons why you want to leave? And what are your pros? Just curious tbh
Itll get better man, the last year is the worst just keep your head up and dont step on any toes and youll make it out fine.
Well I think the highest point to why gamers will never join the military, is that on average. Most nerds aren't like, hardcore right wingers who believe that being a solider is "honorable" we have all seen saving private Ryan. We all know being a trooper is being a pawn. Nobody wants to be a pawn anymore lol. I'm not throwing my life away for my government to treat me poorly 🤣🤣🤣
Right?! Gamers are min-maxers. We can measure the effort needed to invest into a career vs the payout of that effort. And we'd probably tolerate bodily injury up to a max of a papercut in an office job. MAYBE sputtering oil out of a fryer. Why tf would we ever take the tradeoff of bullets, bombs, and PTSD for... well, I honestly don't even know what the military offers as 'benefits', but it certainly can't be worth it, otherwise people would talk more about their benefits than how shitty VA is, etc.
@@ddranimestyle brother i served 5 years in the marine corps and got out now making 35+/hr going into the military is the ultimate min max I deployed but never saw combat i was able to travel for free have experiences i would never dream of being able to afford while acquiring a reputable resume all while getting paid to do so for 5 years yeah life can be shitty at times but at least i had friends there with me some of which im still in contact with til this day yes the military is the bottom of the barrel at times and for lost cause but I've seen a lot of lost causes who were just wasted talent the military has a place for them too never forget man or ma'am literally when all else fails you can always join the military so the guys and gals there literally consider each other all they got deep down it's a family
Seeing saving private ryan should be enough to dissuade most
@@ZachTheZenith i think a big problem too is peoples’ lack of exposure to the military. i come from an area with large military presence so it’s not too uncommon for ppl to join here, but i’ve noticed from a lot of ppl’s comments on this video and just what’s generally said online that many don’t really have an idea of what ppl ACTUALLY do in the military. so many ppl don’t realize that it’s just like another 9-5 and think that saving private ryan is an accurate depiction of the day to day life of the average service member. glad you were able to use your service to propel you to a good salary, currently using my TA to pursue my education and perhaps move on to other things 🤝🏽
@@ZachTheZenith please use periods to form complete sentences i beg
Fun Fact: The GERMAN military has also been recruiting(or at least trying to) gamers at all kinds of gaming events/shows since they stopped having mandatory service.
This resulted in some rather fun situations like the Military recruiting stand sitting next to one for an obvious cartoony childrens game XD
USA military interventions in foreign countries is also becoming unpopular in younger generations
I mean, part of that is because gamers typically have friendships that cross borders.
Or just someone from another country, i have a friend who's canadian
That too, but the main reason is that we have no reason to, if people can't loot and plunder, why bother? The salary isn't worth it, the life style isn't worth it, the rewards isn't worth it, people only join because we get to legally murder, but they banned the most crucial reason why men go to war, now we're an global police with an image to protect, the troops are completely unnatural in purposes and action, "you're telling to die and kill, like an mashine, but we can't even keep the ears of the people we killed?", doesn't it sound ridiculous? You can kill them, you can cripple them, but you can't keep any thing from the person you legally killed, it's like the death of someone is political, and doesn't matter in the least. back when war made sense, if you killed an womans husband/father/brother, you get to keep them, but now they are just left in ruins, with no one to support them, it’s like slaughter without an reason. If they allowed us to bring home war trophies and slaves, plenty of men will line up to join, since men join the military to get rights no normal civilans have.
I was raised in a more wealthy family & play lots of games. I joined the military because I wanted to learn a job instead of go to college first. I wanted to learn how to be an adult on my own :)
I think part of them trying to appeal to more left leaning demographics may be a long term plan. One of the issues the military has with recruitment is that people are way more likely to join if they have a member of the family or someone close in their community that has previously enlisted. I don't remember the statistics off hand but it's pretty high. So they keep pulling from these small pools of people which tend to lean rural and conservative.
They need dumb unthinking recruits. Today's indoctrinated kids are just the right fit.
I think I agree. More cities than not tend to lean more left wing, ironically that's where most people live. Many make fun of that 'Sarah and her two moms' ad but fail to realize is that it sympathizes with an ever growing demographic.
Really well done content. Super interesting!
@DongHuaP The video breaks are still labeled with a past video's section titles.
Very enjoyable coverage, thank you for making it!
DongHuap needs to break out of gaming and do documentaries as a whole. He’s made for this! 🔥
And what? Lose his audience? Are you this clueless?
@@nushia7192 I mean, one never knows unless they try. I’ve seen a couple TH-camrs that took the risk to breakout of their niches, and they’ve gotten more successful from it.
@@nushia7192 someones afraid of risks 💀
yeah vr gamers are some of the best gun users and racing and war games and stuff can actually work
Well given the fact that games more often depict warfare I’m not surprised that objective oriented thinking of gamers come in so handy.
You should do more of these, it's very refreshing to see you talking about something that isn't LoL related.
I'm not from the US so I didn't know about any of this, pretty fucking interesting, and quality content once again, good job
Great message at the end. Have a good one mate
Wow I had no idea about any of this! Mental. Funny edits too haha keep it up
Risk your life for us and earn less than flipping burgers!
You don't make less than flipping burgers, you make 2500 dollars a month in pure earnings, no housing, medical or food costs. So it's pure spending or saving money. Not that I would ever do it but it's not as bad as it sounds.
@@duitk Still not enough when you are expected to be called to war in case something happens. Why should you waste the best years of your life when instead you can go corporate and progress or go to college and there are many other options that will let you earn 6 figures by the time you are 35 if you start early enough even without much skill required at the beginning.
@@000petar000 most people never get to earn 35 dollars an hour, the average American household income, that is two working adults, is around 65k a year. You can do the math but most people never really make that much. I said I would still not go for the military but financially it's not as bad as it sounds, it's better than working retail since you get housing and food and healthcare covered while you are there. Honestly the problem is the physical and mental health risks, not just the danger of war but toxic culture and the host of PTSD people get from it.
@@duitk That's because majority of the people don't attempt to learn any skill or go get higher education that is actually well paid.
Military cuts out your options, I am not saying that everyone makes 100k+ but it just isn't possible for you to make that much in military.
Do you think about mandatory draft? If US goes to war people with no training aren't going to need to risk their life and if the situation is very dire and you are forcefully enlisted at that time, you'll still be safe while you go though training.
You are going to stay at a base where US army decides to send you, while you can make requests, they can always overrule them.
It is required of you to do much more compared to average job and you live in the base.
You can't visit your family or if you aren't married before going to the army, there's no way you would get a girlfriend or wife while serving. I know that there are options that you can apply and live off base but I don't know the requirements and this has to be approved, you may not get approved.
PTSD,disabilities and no one really cares after you after you are discharged. As it was stated in the video, you defended the country yet said country lets you be homeless, this is completely unacceptable.
There are countless reasons that I could spend literally hours writing here for you but I'll stop here.
Sure you can say that you get free food and roof over your head but with all of this that you will have to put up with, its not really worth for almost any amount of money. I Wouldn't even go to the army for 100k+ even if I was making minimum wage, its much better to at least have some freedom in your life instead of having none.
@@duitk Can't u do 2.5k as a cronstruction worker?
I mean if u join the military it'll be more than 12hours a day of work right?
And not just regular work it's more like HARD HAAARRD work.
I never thought i'd see the day where a league player would have a better idea on how to fix a country's problem but here we are
I've been watching your channel since the beginning, I love league of legends. And ironically I'm currently a homeless veteran. This episode hit different lol
This is so well made! You never miss with these!
Never in my life have I seen so many facts that I agree with SO MUCH with in ONE VIDEO, definitely subscribing this is top tier content
In some alternate reality a soldier stepped on a mushroom and received a purple heart chroma.
I can tell you the nice drill sergeant thing is cap. That's just what they're putting out there. Yes there have been changes, but its not summer camp.
Wow! This is not a video i was expecting from you but you really nailed it! I hope you do more videos of this type ^^
While watching this video my mom said I could transfer to a different school and join the school elective that has military training and gun training lol
I've been in the army for 4 years now, before this I dropped out of high school and played video games non-stop for about 4 years while living at my mom's house. The army really doesn't treat you that bad especially if you choose a POG mos. If you aren't really sure what you want to do with your life or have always thought about joining as a kid I would recommend giving it a try. If you quit within the first 6 months you will get marked as a "failure to adapt" and you won't have any bad paperwork follow you like a dishonorable discharge would but they also won't let you join again (probably).
It is a fun experience as long as you have the disipline to learn how to do stuff and you can play well with others. I got stationed in Germany my first contract so I've spent the last 3 years touring europe and now that my duty station is in the US we are deploying to eastern europe so I'll get to go back and spend even more time over there. It's not a job for everyone but it's probably the best job I can recommend to a testosterone filled 20 year old looking for an adventurous lifestyle.
If you are thinking about joining my advice would be to study all of the creeds for the stuff you want to do, get in shape before you show up (actually very important if you don't want to recycle basic training), and don't let the recruiter convince you to get a job you don't want to do (unless you are just joining for money then just grab the fattest signing bonus you can).
Hilarious hearing this. I joined the navy straight out of high school. I got a 96 on my ASVAB and my recruiter told me to go nuke. I asked him before hand if my prior medical history would disqualify me from joining (a prior suicide attempt) and he said not to mention it to anyone and i would be fine. Turns out i wasnt. 2 weeks into basic i get pulled to the side and told in the most backhanded way "we know youve been diagnosed with these things in the past, and if you dont tell us where you were diagnosed youre going to be sent to federal prison." thats not what was said exactly but thats what they meant, me being 17 and not wanting to ruin my life for someone to meet their quota for people recruited, i told them exactly what they wanted to know and was told i wasnt "fit for duty" then i was immediately pulled out of training and sent to "Ship 5" AKA Separations or SEPS. This was the most depressing place to be in. there was black mold growing in the showers, 168 dudes at a time inside of one big room filled with racks, and the only time we left the room was to go eat sack meals with moldy food until someone wrote a letter to their parents about the living conditions and we finally got access to the chow halls that everyone in training had access to. The worst part about SEPS was that you never knew when you were going to leave. there was a kid who had been in there for a year because his case was still being processed, and many more who had been in there for months. We were treated like subhuman animals because in everyone elses eyes we were quitters. I had my 18th birthday in SEPS, and ill never forget how alone i felt in that moment. I was motivated during training, and i was so sure that my future would be in the military... but they had kicked me out because they were worried id be another negative statistic. that was when i realized the government wasnt meant to protect its people, but themselves.
I'm an engineer, not a gamer, but I too get very engrossed in what I am doing. When you said gamers are thin because they eat less, I felt that deep because I too skip meals often, because I would rather continue working on my project than eat. I have been underweight my whole life, as mechanics is my love, and eating is an inconvenience.
The way it all went wrong is hillarious
i was doing this 1600 word assignment for a class called pre ap and i just realized that this is useful for it lol
Dong looking fresh in every video nowadays
Just like corporate throws pizza party to make employees happy instead of paying fair wage
Atleast they tried
They fix my back. I'll go back shit.. it sucked but I'll manage.
For a country with an extremely high military budget, you'd think they'd treat vets much better
The budget goes to companies like raytheon and lockheed martin. Its a circlejerk where they blow taxpayer money
training sessions is just gonna be a cod lobby 💀
it is because you are BRILLIANT! and you never fail to put in a hilarious pun, we appreciate you
Banger video king ❤️
Genuinely one of your best vids, keep it up man
Real Gamers tend to fast accidentally. I have come off of plenty of 14 hour League sessions only to realize I'm not exactly hungry after consuming all the salt from my own tears after getting slurs hurled at me all day. I don't know where I was going with this.
Love how the chapters are literally from a league video, and the video game category is MW (2019)
They have lost there mind
can't belive this is THE strongest army in the world by ranking
The us air force sponsor esl csgo tournaments, we saw it a few days ago at Katowice;
I can't remember exactly what it is but they also have an us air force analysis or replay or award or something like that baked in where the commentators say that it's brought by them :D
I remember feeling very uncomfortable seeing that Honest Trailers got sposored by US Army.
Most gamers know Metal Gear or Spec Ops The Line, if there is one lesson you can get from those games is that war is hell, also that being part of the USA army tends to be ass.
As a Gamer and a person who wants to serve the military especially the Navy, I see this as a win win situation, every two days, I do a 3 minute plank, and a 1.5 mile run in 11-12 minutes, and sometimes below 11, like 2 runs ago, I got my pr of 10 minutes 17 seconds
I'm very happy League of Documentary took off, it's been really fun to watch
playing military games is much different than being in the military
Great content. Really enjoyed it :)
There are also many kinds of games as well, like Doom where you tear apart enemies like they are made out of paper, Undertale where you can talk every monster out of battle and everything in between.
"but Donghuap, your solution costs real money, in stead of the peanuts we spend on the other stuff :( won't you pwease think of the miwwitawy budget. It's so low *puppy eyes emoji*"
The greatest mystery, is where does all that insane amount of money go?
"theyjust have to worry about shotings in their university" got me dead.
Id say compulsory service should be a thing, but it should come with real world training that actually applies their real world counter parts. Combat medics who see and treat some of the worst injuries on a daily basis cant even qualify to be doctors let alone be EMTs . Benefits should also be big part of the incentive structure along with 6 figure salary. Also a compulsory service would make politicians less to push for wars since that would mean shipping their own kids off to die. This would also help reduce the toxic environments generated by anti government militias who like to cosplay as US servicemen.
"politicians less to push for wars since that would mean shipping their own kids off to die" Lol. oh how naive. you really think anyone remotely rich or powerful would require their kids to risk their lives? They would AT WORST get safe desk jobs.
Politicians would still have pull to give their kids cushy stateside desk jobs
Fantastic video
20% gamers are thin...maybe it's because 20% of gamers are rich
5FDP: Wrong side of Heaven all i could think of while watching this
"Gamers are harder to deal with than terrorists" Man, I knew we were bad, but that's pretty bad.
Very very entertaining video, thank you so much!
Looking for recruits on twitch. What possibly could go wrong.
I remember when I shot my first gun back in my day and it was pretty unrealistic. there no crosshairs, GUI, or nothing. the military needs to fix these guns if they want me to enlist
I sit through your documentaries and GBay99 documentaries, you guys are amazing!!!!!
People don't understand how intense gaming can be. You sweat just from the anger of losing, you work out by throwing controllers, how do people not understand this.
I mean, they could try recruiting some gamers for remote controlled aircraft when those become more popular, we've been training for years already.
Back when I lived in europe I remember the cheapest calories were in olive oil after they added a tax to sugary foods
I think gamers are skinnier is because gaming uses more brain power and you use more calories. When I was in the army in ait training, a high ranking officer said we are the smartest generation due to gaming. Gaming trains your reflexes and muscle and brain coordination which is what soldiers need lol
P.S never join the military, life is to short to sacrifice yourself for rich people
And if the military didn't engage in morally unjustifiable acts, it definitely wouldn't have a recruitment problem. The military appeals to many people but many of these same people can't stand behind a military that invades other nations for corporate interests.
the army has way too many restrictions on recruitment, that's why they falling short and I am glad it's happening to them cause I tried so many times for 6 years straight to join the army in my early 20s and they would not accept me just because of a small tattoo of my mother's name on the lower part of my neck, it's crazy as hell cause I even passed their test and was eligible to join but got disqualified over and over again because of my mom's name on my neck which I think is crazy