The additional antennas in the 650 are vertically polarized. Having cross polarization in your AP antennas provides multiple benefits including better coverage for clients above or below the AP, and more powerful MIMO beamforming capability. The real world benefits are reflected in your testing results. I wish TP-Link would publish at least basic information on the number of MIMO streams/antenna configurations on each of their devices instead of making us take them apart and guess based on what we can see inside. Incredibly frustrating for making educated decisions on which device to get for a particular application.
I believe its due to different radio power laws. Or maybe its because of power efficiency gained at the outlet due to being 220v rather than 110v... But the output of the antenna is capped at 1,000mW or 1 watt.
I've got my eap650 ... The speed is as advertised, however the range on both frequencies is absolutely terrible . I've got an old wavlink that has wayyy better coverage . I'm so disappointed. What can I do to increase the range? Thanks
I totally agree!. I'm also disappointed after I bought and tested EAP625. the advertisement says that it can reach more than 300 meter, but only 50~60meter is max range. I also bought EAP211, and it reaches a little bit more than eap625(Actually, eap211 is a bridge kit for max 1km, but I tested it as a Access Point with only one device powered on) I already checked transmit power and and it was 25dbm(max) I think the transmit power is restricted by law as 25dbm, and the antenna is omnidirectional(antenna gain just is around 5~6), then the coverage will not increase dramatically so the advertisement of EAP625 is a FAKE
Yes they will operate in standalone mode but some features will not be available. Like meshing. No I do not know what all features won’t work if you don’t use the Omada controller software
I use an EAP225 with Ubiquiti UniFi Outdoor Dual-Band 15dBi 90-Degree Sector Panel Antenna. The UniFi antenna dramatically increased range but it's directional. You can't fit it to 610/650
Without having my hands on either access point the hardware being non-ferrous tells me the hardware is some grade of stainless steel as since in an outdoor application the stainless steel won’t rust like regular ferrous hardware would eventually.
That actually makes a ton of sense and I’m too stupid to have come to that conclusion on my own. lol thanks for point that out. It’s so obvious now. I kind of want to take the video down and remove that part….
@@SPXLabs lol it’s not super common info. Something so out of sight out of mind 99% of people wouldn’t think anything of it. Just thought I’d pass along a fun not-so-thought of fact. Good review 👍
@s1lentwarr1or1 yeah this is something perfect to drop though. Because even though it’s a small detail it’s going to make me think more about other things.
The speeds listed for the channels are a total aggregate for the wifi only. i.e. multiple devices can push 2.4 gbps of traffic to each other but only 1 gbps to the uplink.
Austenitic stainless steel is more expensive than most steel, and non-magnetic. It also doesn't rust. Which is, ya know, good for screws if you plan on leaving them outside. I'd rather you be crazy about your magnetic screwdriver not working than have an outdoor device that rusts in the rain.
May somebody confirm if either the 650 or 610 are capable of being used as "Client Bridge" devices ? I can't seem to find this information on the net and I would like to know from somebody who does have a unit since I can't find a Device Emulator too. Thanks in advance! JR
@@alekjoman2043 This basically means that if you would deploy 2x of these Access Point units to distinct Building Locations (for example), Unit A would be configured in AP Mode *Broadcasting WiFi SSID Network*, meanwhile the Unit B would be configured in Client Bridge Mode *Connecting to Unit A over Wireless Uplink* thus providing Wired Network capabilities at the far end. I've been asking that question because I would buy 1 to use it as Unit B (Client Bridge) in my topology, but I wouldn't find any Firmware Emulator or videoclip stating the affirmative. It would be awesome if somebody could screenshot or confirm in which Operation Modes EAP650-Outdoor can achieve.
The additional antennas in the 650 are vertically polarized. Having cross polarization in your AP antennas provides multiple benefits including better coverage for clients above or below the AP, and more powerful MIMO beamforming capability. The real world benefits are reflected in your testing results. I wish TP-Link would publish at least basic information on the number of MIMO streams/antenna configurations on each of their devices instead of making us take them apart and guess based on what we can see inside. Incredibly frustrating for making educated decisions on which device to get for a particular application.
People don't know how much work goes into making these videos. Thank you
These are my least favourite videos to make. I’m not really looking forward to the next wave of WiFi devices.
Can't wait for you to get your hands on the EAP773 and EAP783
Looks like they are about to roll out a year after they were announced
I’ve heard March but we will see how soon I get em.
I never knew that the power output is higher in the U.S. if the spec sheet is correct.
Only in the USA baby
I believe its due to different radio power laws. Or maybe its because of power efficiency gained at the outlet due to being 220v rather than 110v... But the output of the antenna is capped at 1,000mW or 1 watt.
@@SPXLabsor in any other country if you believe you'll get away with it
Yeah but it isn’t funny if I don’t joke about the whole USA is the greatest thing. Idk.
@@SPXLabs 'murrica rules, for sure! Nice place. Greetings from Mordor, and best wishes for the coming year!
I've got my eap650 ... The speed is as advertised, however the range on both frequencies is absolutely terrible . I've got an old wavlink that has wayyy better coverage . I'm so disappointed. What can I do to increase the range? Thanks
Set it to max power but other than that not much.
I totally agree!. I'm also disappointed after I bought and tested EAP625. the advertisement says that it can reach more than 300 meter, but only 50~60meter is max range.
I also bought EAP211, and it reaches a little bit more than eap625(Actually, eap211 is a bridge kit for max 1km, but I tested it as a Access Point with only one device powered on)
I already checked transmit power and and it was 25dbm(max)
I think the transmit power is restricted by law as 25dbm, and the antenna is omnidirectional(antenna gain just is around 5~6), then the coverage will not increase dramatically
so the advertisement of EAP625 is a FAKE
@@hydepark8090 Definitely fake. I'm hoping to get a wavlink ax3000. Tplink eaps are trash
Will either one of these hook up to a regular router they don’t need any other TP link product to run them. You just run them through an app.
Yes they will operate in standalone mode but some features will not be available. Like meshing. No I do not know what all features won’t work if you don’t use the Omada controller software
Any chance you could review the EAP683 LR early in the new year?
I can ask but idk if tp link will follow through
EAP225/EAP615/650/Which of these do you would think be I need a long rang
I use an EAP225 with Ubiquiti UniFi Outdoor Dual-Band 15dBi 90-Degree Sector Panel Antenna. The UniFi antenna dramatically increased range but it's directional. You can't fit it to 610/650
Hello do you know if both work as range extender for Wi-Fi and can them be controlled by iPhone with an app?
Without having my hands on either access point the hardware being non-ferrous tells me the hardware is some grade of stainless steel as since in an outdoor application the stainless steel won’t rust like regular ferrous hardware would eventually.
That actually makes a ton of sense and I’m too stupid to have come to that conclusion on my own. lol thanks for point that out. It’s so obvious now. I kind of want to take the video down and remove that part….
@@SPXLabs lol it’s not super common info. Something so out of sight out of mind 99% of people wouldn’t think anything of it. Just thought I’d pass along a fun not-so-thought of fact. Good review 👍
@s1lentwarr1or1 yeah this is something perfect to drop though. Because even though it’s a small detail it’s going to make me think more about other things.
What do you think about eap 625/623 ? I can’t find if it’s better or not than 650
Never touched it. But typically newer is better….
Range &How many dives
Thanks for sharing. Happy New Year.
Happy new year friend!
The speeds listed for the channels are a total aggregate for the wifi only. i.e. multiple devices can push 2.4 gbps of traffic to each other but only 1 gbps to the uplink.
Easy simple nice. Thank you
Well done! PS Love that Vader sweater!
Me too
@@SPXLabs Santa did not - no Razor Blades for you this year
@@jfkastner just socks again!
You got electrolytic capacitor so it would fail after two or three years of usage.
Austenitic stainless steel is more expensive than most steel, and non-magnetic. It also doesn't rust. Which is, ya know, good for screws if you plan on leaving them outside. I'd rather you be crazy about your magnetic screwdriver not working than have an outdoor device that rusts in the rain.
Yup. Another person already said that. Didn’t think about it at the time but it makes sense. Thanks for also adding that
Ubiquity uses the same bracket.
May somebody confirm if either the 650 or 610 are capable of being used as "Client Bridge" devices ?
I can't seem to find this information on the net and I would like to know from somebody who does have a unit since I can't find a Device Emulator too.
Thanks in advance!
JR
What do you mean by "Client Bridge"?
@@alekjoman2043 This basically means that if you would deploy 2x of these Access Point units to distinct Building Locations (for example),
Unit A would be configured in AP Mode *Broadcasting WiFi SSID Network*, meanwhile the Unit B would be configured in Client Bridge Mode *Connecting to Unit A over Wireless Uplink* thus providing Wired Network capabilities at the far end.
I've been asking that question because I would buy 1 to use it as Unit B (Client Bridge) in my topology, but I wouldn't find any Firmware Emulator or videoclip stating the affirmative.
It would be awesome if somebody could screenshot or confirm in which Operation Modes EAP650-Outdoor can achieve.
@@infotechjrf What you`re talking about is called "mesh". And yes, you can do that, but you'd need Omada . Just google EAP 650 Mesh setup
Why does TPLINK uses weird names for their product AX3000 EAP610?
The AX3000 refers to the wifi6 standard of 802.11ax and 3000mbps bandwidth across all the bands.
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