How about another game like Lightning Roulette or Pragmatic Power Up Roulette, it seem so obvious that they have the ability to "arrange" the winnings number.
That's a good point, although the way it is portrayed is that the dealer spins a real roulette wheel to get the result and the game software generates the "Bonus" features. I think its fair to say from the popularity of people playing "Live" games is the majority of players make their choice assuming its a real wheel in the generally accepted sense, otherwise they might as well choose to play on a software based RNG version of the game where they can play at their own pace. We assume a large number of players wouldn't play these live games if they were aware the games were RNG based and the casino are in control of where the ball lands, that would mean the dealer is effectively just pushing the slot machine button for you by spinning the ball. According to the UK Gambling commission which states on its website:- We want licensees to put the interests of customers first, by treating them fairly and communicating with them in a clear way that allows them to make properly informed decisions. Licensees are reminded of the licensing objective of ensuring that gambling is conducted in a fair and open way. Casino operators are bound by their operating license where condition 7.1.1.4 which came into effect on 31 October 2018, requires that licensees do not commit any unfair commercial practices within the meaning of the Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations 2008. Unfair commercial practices include misleading omissions as defined in section 6 of the Regulation. Section 6 of The Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations 2008 states:- 6. Misleading omissions (1) A commercial practice is a misleading omission if, in its factual context, taking account of the matters in paragraph (2)- (a)the commercial practice omits material information, (b)the commercial practice hides material information, (c)the commercial practice provides material information in a manner which is unclear, unintelligible, ambiguous, or untimely, or (d)the commercial practice fails to identify its commercial intent, unless this is already apparent from the context, and as a result it causes or is likely to cause the average consumer to take a transactional decision he would not have taken otherwise. (2) The matters referred to in paragraph (1) are- (a)all the features and circumstances of the commercial practice; (b)the limitations of the medium used to communicate the commercial practice (including limitations of space or time); and (c)where the medium used to communicate the commercial practice imposes limitations of space or time, any measures taken by the trader to make the information available to consumers by other means. We feel its clear enough that any casino providing a live dealer wheel run by RNG and not disclosing that fact would be in breach of their license, and probably due to pay back losses to any customer it misled in a casino version of a PPI claim. Here are links to the resources:- www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk/licensees-and-businesses/page/customers-knowledge-of-who-they-are-participating-against www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2008/1277/regulation/6/made
I am a data guy and love the analytical approach here. I would like to see another series that tests a simple doubling strategy, such as betting on Red or Black. I have a suspicion that they take into account the betting pattern and pull the plug with statically very unlikely sequences to bust a better's bank roll.
There a few people that have suggested alternative bets so what we are going to do starting at the end of the next video which should go up later today/tomorrow, we are going to include a section where we re-run the spins for each session through our simulator for various other bets so people can see how the other bets would have stacked up on those same spins. I appreciate that's not checking to see if the casino is moving the goal posts during game play against a specific bet, but it will tell us how the various bets faired knowing the goal posts cannot be moved as the spins are already fixed. That way over 10 sessions you will get a good idea of how a particular bet performed knowing the spins didn't change - if the bet fails with fixed spins then its not going to work full stop regardless of if the casino are altering spins or not. The bet you are describing is the standard martingale which I can say with some certainty is going to fail spectacularly over 1000 spins but we will include this as it will be useful for people to see what happens. There is a bit about why larger bets fail at 33min 50seconds in this video th-cam.com/video/5Sm-8mgcQZc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=vGfkzjVNcVQbGkqe and when the second part of The Complete Guide comes out there is a section in it where we dissect the martingale system in great detail as the although the concept might seem clever and feasible the table limits are designed to bust such a system. Any even money bet of 18 pockets will regularly lose for 10-15 spins in any 100 spins without any help from the casino. So by doubling up from a 1 chip the bet sequence will look like this. A bigger starting bet will simply hurt you more in the mid to long term. Level Bet Stake Required 1 1 1 2 2 3 3 4 7 4 8 15 5 16 31 6 32 63 7 64 127 8 128 255 9 256 511 10 512 1023 11 1024 2047 12 2048 4095 13 4096 8191 14 8192 16383 15 16384 32767 Thank you for the comment!
Cheating is a harsh word, shenanigans is probably more fitting. I believe that casinos operate in a manner fitting to their game set-up, numbers can be adjusted levers pulled etc. I've seen many different spin types playing roulette over many years, some that defy the laws of physics and are questionable, more so these days the casinos are riddled with ways of cheating punters out of their cash. All the clues are their, not liking consistent winners (limiting that players action), if a player wins to big they have to jump through hoops to simply withdraw.(Delay tactics so that the player will gamble their winnings back into the casino).
There seems to be some missing comments on here -- We haven't removed them and are looking into it. - It appears you have to sort by "Newest" the default is "sort by top comments" and it seems TH-cam deem what those are not us. Sort by newest should show all comments - we will only ever delete abusive comments made towards other viewers.
never place your bets that far spread apart. Instead try clustering groups of at least 4 numbers. You'll probably have better results with this method..
Thanks JB, Yes there is some argument to support clustering, although its mainly perception not reality over a large enough sample set of spins, as all pockets level up over time. The point of this video series is to analyse the results not to make money as such and clustering wouldn't highlight the near misses as well as this will. We might do a series two with 4 pockets clustered to get a comparison . . . . That would be interesting. Anyway thank you for your comment.
That seems to be the opinion of a few people. However nobody has offered any real evidence so far, we hope someone comes forward with something tangible. Where did you get your information from may we ask?
@@g__o__l__d__6673 Interesting - Thank you - we will explore this further - you can see my answer to @ekanurmilan6615 above and there is also a FOI (freedom of Information) request on the Gambling commission website that looks like someone else is also trying to figure this out. Seems like the GC is ducking the issue. www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk/about-us/freedomofinformation/evolution-gaming-live-casino-studios
Good point, I didn't make that very clear in my earlier answer - no this channel is mainly focused to online roulette and of course that is in many ways very different to the actual brick and mortar versions. We are not saying casinos cheat at all, but it is big question on the lips of many, so we will let the data speak for itself in the coming weeks with a number of different experiments we have planned. Thank you for watching.
I didn’t know whether your question was genuinely asked or tongue in cheekiness, but I might be able to help answer the best I can for others who might not know how modern casino stuff works. Sorry this might be long, so if you know, skip. Modern day roulette has a piece of software called a random number generator (RNG) determines where the ball will drop in an online roulette wheel. This RNG is similar to the one found in slot machines both online and in regular casino. The payout percentage and win ratios can be adjusted. Masses of random numbers are produced each second, and one is selected when the wheel is spun, directing the virtual wheel to a final result. We also have the use of RRS (Random Rotor Speed) wheels both online and offline Sadly, we are finding modern roulette wheels have switched to RNG. Even if they have a live croupier handling the ball into the rotor. With advancing technology most machines are basically the same as a slot machine, even though the wheels turn and a real ball used, it is the RGG computer that decides the random generated number and the ball is directed to the appropriate pocket by a mixture of wheel speed and the electronic means to get the ball in the correct pocket. Nowadays many of the RNG roulette balls are made of piezoelectric ceramic. The material used is BaTiO3 on the surface, and BaSO4 on the inside for insulation. Basically it means the ball caries a polarized surface charge when hit by an ultrasonic sound wave. This wave is sent from the inter-digital transducers placed in the spoons (pockets) of each number. They send a wave to the ball that polarizes the surface with a negative charge. The spoon of the number is also negative, therefore the ball jumps out through electrostatic repulsion (see also Patent US9114940 ). Each number pocket has a switch which is controlled by a transistor called IGBT. This transistor turns on the switch so that the spoon in negatively charged. The casino leaves the pockets that it wants the ball to go in neutral, or switch off. That’s why the balls goes crazy sometimes jumping hither and thither. It’s nothing more than a glorified slot machine! Owners of slot machines legally set certain parameters on each machine. The casino will set the overall, acceptable profit percentage they want whatever happens, which is locked in and always keep that percentage for the house. Next the payout frequency can be set and finally how much to pay out. It’s not cheating per-se, but manipulating the overall payout structure and these last two settings can be altered each day to keep punters going from machines to machines to chase winning machines, or waiting for a slow payout to pay the big one. The casino will always get their percentage win rate and luck adds or subtracts from extra income and the punter feels his luck change from day to day (but always over time losing!) Therefore, at their core, a slot machine will have this (RNG) Random Number Generator, which does exactly what it says it does: randomly generates numbers, which when you spin, generates a certain random combination of symbols across paylines. The RNG works as an algorithm, and is programmed by a computer to generate those random numbers, with absolutely no rhyme or rhythm. You won’t be able to predict if or when you might win, because the results are completely random. Although the early slot machines had a mechanical RNG, the idea was the same: results are randomly awarded, and there’s not much point in looking how to beat a slot machine. Many machines log results and patterns found and therefore, his system highlighted. What they do with that knowledge is their business, but for us it means don’t stay long on one system. Use a good system to pay big for minimum spins and win and run, if luck and the odds are in your favour. Random number generators are very widely used in all online casinos and are the power behind many of the games you play. In brick and mortar houses RNG is being used more and more in automated (and even croupier spun) roulette wheels, which are called live wheels. Obviously when a real roulette wheel spins the momentum of the wheel eventually slows down and the ball lands in one segment and the nearest pocket once settled, but not so a computer generated outcome. People often consider that there is scope to fix these and that therefore they cannot be trusted, but a true random number generator cannot be fixed. A real wheel can be argued to have “patterns” in the outcomes, RNG doesn’t have the same as an old fashioned real wheel. A real wheel can certainly have slight flaws and biases perhaps, but not so much nowadays. As soon as the wheel simulator is set in motion, it polls the random number generator and grabs the number it spits out at that precise moment. That’s why a number might show momentarily before the ball even settled! That accidentally happens more than you think. To do this it then plays the spin starting faster and getting slower, for effect, while always intending to stop at the number it grabbed. While the programming is more complex the use of the genuine RNG gives the security and will be constantly checked by authorities. The RNG will just work on a continuous loop using nothing more than the first and last number possibility. Over time one might argue that a pattern can be predicted in RNG, but this would be hard to spot and really meaningless, as it’s just RNG, a software random number generator needs an algorithm or seed to learn to spew its random numbers, but this is not required by the hardware version, so the authenticity is greater. Number generators tend to work constantly even if no one is playing, and these are tested for evidence of randomness. It means that when you play at an online casino and use a virtual table, you are being given an experience that is as close as possible to spinning the wheel and letting the fates decide. Some casinos will use the older style true random generator but obviously as technology moves forward things change. Big names like 888, BetWay and many others offer RNG games across all their tables, and you can be assured they would not entertain cheating on their behalf. This is already a game of chance weighted slightly in their favour by their original settings and the odds that roulette has, and if you play the games at the most basic level of say red or black, or odd or even, you will win some and lose some. If you are losing, someone else is probably winning, so it equals out. If a casino ever dared risk it’s reputation by targeting some punters (perhaps if they’re winning a lot and often) or for any other reason they would be fools and there’s other ways to discourage punters from playing.
Interesting answer and thank you for sharing your knowledge:- Are you saying that even the "Live Dealer" wheels are controlled by RNG? I mean it certainly feels like the ball is being acted upon by some mysterious force at times but surely the Casino's would have to state its being controlled by RNG. Obviously the software based versions are all RNG and that is stated in the game information where they have to declare the RTP, we have even seen a few where there is a Pre-Recorded Human Dealer but its clearly stated as being RNG and the RTP is the usual 2.70% of European Roulette. There is an example near the end of our video th-cam.com/video/NpdRGBB81W0/w-d-xo.html. As for the Immersive version from Evolution which is effectively a TV studio with its live stream fed into the major casino websites willing that pay for its service and software, We cannot find any reference in the small print to suggest it is RNG based, they go to great lengths to promote it as "Live Casino" with dealers changing every half hour or so. Surely it would be deemed fraudulent to go to such lengths to mis-inform their clients and they wouldn't be allowed to operate in such manner without declaring it. We are not talking about back-street operators here these are licensed corporates. Our understanding is that any form of electronics employed in the wheel or any magnetic type properties of the ball were purely so the system can record where the ball lands and run the information and accounting side of the game. If it was ever proven that there is more to it than that, then it would be a case of malfeasance including the licensing authorities, the operators and the system suppliers.
That is a good question, one we have hypothesised from the perspective of actually trying to build a system to do it. If as @dr.s.p suggest the casinos were actually able to control where the ball lands then in a kind of "Wisdom of the crowd" way it would likely be very simple to do even though multiple casinos share the same live feed. We thought about it this way. If the TV feed is sold to 10 casino websites, its the casino that is responsible for taking your money and paying you out. So no individual casino can manipulate the wheel for their own needs as it would affect the other operators. So that gives you some comfort in a way. However, the software provider / TV studio will be able to see all bets coming in from all operators, which might be lets say 10 customers playing at each of the 10 casinos so 100 player all placing bets on that 1 wheel. Due to the randomness (of the crowd) of all bets placed we would guess if the TV studio always made sure the ball landed on the least covered pocket then due the randomness of the bets being placed where the ball lands would also appear random. (this could be enhanced with software to make sure randomness is achieved) - (remember the story about the ipod when it came out that apple had to make it less random as it could easily play 5 tracks off that same album in a row - which is random but didnt feel like it). If that was the case then landing on the least covered pocket at all times would mean each casino makes maximum profits on every round. It was just a thought thought - I mean that how we would try and do it!
@@roulette-professional - There’s quite a few sites that the ball dances this way and that way and dart of onto a pocket at the end of its run and is often bizarre to watch, but the number was fairly chosen by RNG and guided to the pocket by electronic means, whether by repulsing and/or attracting the ball to the pre-chosen pocket, and/or imperceptibly altering the speed of the wheel to help. Theres a few TH-cam videos that show the number coming up just a little before the ball does its final movement into a pocket. It’s only because the sync was out slightly and probably wouldn’t repeat. There’s nothing wrong with this as it is randomly chosen at the heart of this and can be inspected at any time by the relevant Commissions. There’s a lot of information around regarding the types of fair usage of RNG tables and can still promote having a croupier on a live game. It’s the way of the world. It allows any old table bias or alleged croupier control to be a thing of the past. As you might infer and many other state, that RNG might give different results, as compared to a randomly controlled non electronic outcome, so patterns don’t appear as much as they used to. Every system promoter always state, use a live table, meaning the old wheels that are not RNG at its heart.
My magic hidden chart 🪄also shows the 1:1 betting sides too. I have other excel chart what could show it but I did not want to write the spun numbers to two different chart. So I made it on your hidden chart (at V2, 12 pockets). Thank you for colour change (red / black) what I use different column with a thin line, hidden numbers there :) the number 1 or number 2 don't help there nothing. This sheet (v2, 12 pockets) counts the 1:1 bet sides and show me if any of these was missing 15 times only. Yes, I don't like the 18 pockets betting (with martingale bet progression). So I try to don't use the 1:1 pay out sides. But if this happens 15 times... then maybe you can recommend a better covering like the bad martingale. For example if the black colour missing 15 times, then bet to column 1 and column 2 with 3 - 3 units, and 1 -1 unit to street 31, 22, 13 and 4. Total 10 units to 28 covered numbers. I know some numbers will pay back 9 unit only. And if I don't get back nothing then I can not take more like double bet and take 10 units to red. (Total expense: 40 units) And pray to the God of fertility and if this also lose then 50 units to red (cover 18 numbers only). Total expense: 90 unit. After this 3 levels I can not do more bet to this shit :D. Of course if the missing colour comes out then stop betting earlier. The 90 unit losing is my 3 or 4 profit target.
Not sure what the god of fertility has to do with it - lol - Roulette is controlled by the devil! (and that will make more sense when you see the next video!)
How about another game like Lightning Roulette or Pragmatic Power Up Roulette, it seem so obvious that they have the ability to "arrange" the winnings number.
That's a good point, although the way it is portrayed is that the dealer spins a real roulette wheel to get the result and the game software generates the "Bonus" features.
I think its fair to say from the popularity of people playing "Live" games is the majority of players make their choice assuming its a real wheel in the generally accepted sense, otherwise they might as well choose to play on a software based RNG version of the game where they can play at their own pace.
We assume a large number of players wouldn't play these live games if they were aware the games were RNG based and the casino are in control of where the ball lands, that would mean the dealer is effectively just pushing the slot machine button for you by spinning the ball.
According to the UK Gambling commission which states on its website:-
We want licensees to put the interests of customers first, by treating them fairly and communicating with them in a clear way that allows them to make properly informed decisions. Licensees are reminded of the licensing objective of ensuring that gambling is conducted in a fair and open way.
Casino operators are bound by their operating license where condition 7.1.1.4 which came into effect on 31 October 2018, requires that licensees do not commit any unfair commercial practices within the meaning of the Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations 2008.
Unfair commercial practices include misleading omissions as defined in section 6 of the Regulation.
Section 6 of The Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations 2008 states:-
6. Misleading omissions
(1) A commercial practice is a misleading omission if, in its factual context, taking account of the matters in paragraph (2)-
(a)the commercial practice omits material information,
(b)the commercial practice hides material information,
(c)the commercial practice provides material information in a manner which is unclear, unintelligible, ambiguous, or untimely, or
(d)the commercial practice fails to identify its commercial intent, unless this is already apparent from the context, and as a result it causes or is likely to cause the average consumer to take a transactional decision he would not have taken otherwise.
(2) The matters referred to in paragraph (1) are-
(a)all the features and circumstances of the commercial practice;
(b)the limitations of the medium used to communicate the commercial practice (including limitations of space or time); and
(c)where the medium used to communicate the commercial practice imposes limitations of space or time, any measures taken by the trader to make the information available to consumers by other means.
We feel its clear enough that any casino providing a live dealer wheel run by RNG and not disclosing that fact would be in breach of their license, and probably due to pay back losses to any customer it misled in a casino version of a PPI claim.
Here are links to the resources:-
www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk/licensees-and-businesses/page/customers-knowledge-of-who-they-are-participating-against
www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2008/1277/regulation/6/made
@@roulette-professional completely agree on that one
I am a data guy and love the analytical approach here. I would like to see another series that tests a simple doubling strategy, such as betting on Red or Black. I have a suspicion that they take into account the betting pattern and pull the plug with statically very unlikely sequences to bust a better's bank roll.
There a few people that have suggested alternative bets so what we are going to do starting at the end of the next video which should go up later today/tomorrow, we are going to include a section where we re-run the spins for each session through our simulator for various other bets so people can see how the other bets would have stacked up on those same spins.
I appreciate that's not checking to see if the casino is moving the goal posts during game play against a specific bet, but it will tell us how the various bets faired knowing the goal posts cannot be moved as the spins are already fixed.
That way over 10 sessions you will get a good idea of how a particular bet performed knowing the spins didn't change - if the bet fails with fixed spins then its not going to work full stop regardless of if the casino are altering spins or not.
The bet you are describing is the standard martingale which I can say with some certainty is going to fail spectacularly over 1000 spins but we will include this as it will be useful for people to see what happens.
There is a bit about why larger bets fail at 33min 50seconds in this video th-cam.com/video/5Sm-8mgcQZc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=vGfkzjVNcVQbGkqe and when the second part of The Complete Guide comes out there is a section in it where we dissect the martingale system in great detail as the although the concept might seem clever and feasible the table limits are designed to bust such a system. Any even money bet of 18 pockets will regularly lose for 10-15 spins in any 100 spins without any help from the casino. So by doubling up from a 1 chip the bet sequence will look like this. A bigger starting bet will simply hurt you more in the mid to long term.
Level Bet Stake Required
1 1 1
2 2 3
3 4 7
4 8 15
5 16 31
6 32 63
7 64 127
8 128 255
9 256 511
10 512 1023
11 1024 2047
12 2048 4095
13 4096 8191
14 8192 16383
15 16384 32767
Thank you for the comment!
@@roulette-professional Thank you for the comprehensive reply.
Cheating is a harsh word, shenanigans is probably more fitting.
I believe that casinos operate in a manner fitting to their game set-up, numbers can be adjusted levers pulled etc.
I've seen many different spin types playing roulette over many years, some that defy the laws of physics and are questionable, more so these days the casinos are riddled with ways of cheating punters out of their cash.
All the clues are their, not liking consistent winners (limiting that players action), if a player wins to big they have to jump through hoops to simply withdraw.(Delay tactics so that the player will gamble their winnings back into the casino).
I know you study ballistics - did you see the answer from @dr.s.p that was an eye opener and may confirm some of your own thoughts on the subject.
There seems to be some missing comments on here -- We haven't removed them and are looking into it. - It appears you have to sort by "Newest" the default is "sort by top comments" and it seems TH-cam deem what those are not us. Sort by newest should show all comments - we will only ever delete abusive comments made towards other viewers.
Very interesting, look forward to the next episode in this series.
Many thanks . . .
Thank you for another amazing video 👍
Glad you enjoyed it
Nice work! Thank you very much!
Glad you liked it!
never place your bets that far spread apart. Instead try clustering groups of at least 4 numbers. You'll probably have better results with this method..
Thanks JB,
Yes there is some argument to support clustering, although its mainly perception not reality over a large enough sample set of spins, as all pockets level up over time.
The point of this video series is to analyse the results not to make money as such and clustering wouldn't highlight the near misses as well as this will.
We might do a series two with 4 pockets clustered to get a comparison . . . . That would be interesting.
Anyway thank you for your comment.
immersive are predetermined numbers ;)
That seems to be the opinion of a few people. However nobody has offered any real evidence so far, we hope someone comes forward with something tangible. Where did you get your information from may we ask?
@@roulette-professional from a x host :) nda signed
@@g__o__l__d__6673 Interesting - Thank you - we will explore this further - you can see my answer to @ekanurmilan6615 above and there is also a FOI (freedom of Information) request on the Gambling commission website that looks like someone else is also trying to figure this out. Seems like the GC is ducking the issue. www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk/about-us/freedomofinformation/evolution-gaming-live-casino-studios
Your Analysis relating to "brick and mortar"
casinos ?? (probably Not "cheating"...) :
Good point, I didn't make that very clear in my earlier answer - no this channel is mainly focused to online roulette and of course that is in many ways very different to the actual brick and mortar versions. We are not saying casinos cheat at all, but it is big question on the lips of many, so we will let the data speak for itself in the coming weeks with a number of different experiments we have planned.
Thank you for watching.
The question than is: how do they cheat.
I didn’t know whether your question was genuinely asked or tongue in cheekiness, but I might be able to help answer the best I can for others who might not know how modern casino stuff works.
Sorry this might be long, so if you know, skip.
Modern day roulette has a piece of software called a random number generator (RNG) determines where the ball will drop in an online roulette wheel.
This RNG is similar to the one found in slot machines both online and in regular casino. The payout percentage and win ratios can be adjusted. Masses of random numbers are produced each second, and one is selected when the wheel is spun, directing the virtual wheel to a final result.
We also have the use of RRS (Random Rotor Speed) wheels both online and offline
Sadly, we are finding modern roulette wheels have switched to RNG. Even if they have a live croupier handling the ball into the rotor. With advancing technology most machines are basically the same as a slot machine, even though the wheels turn and a real ball used, it is the RGG computer that decides the random generated number and the ball is directed to the appropriate pocket by a mixture of wheel speed and the electronic means to get the ball in the correct pocket.
Nowadays many of the RNG roulette balls are made of piezoelectric ceramic. The material used is BaTiO3 on the surface, and BaSO4 on the inside for insulation.
Basically it means the ball caries a polarized surface charge when hit by an ultrasonic sound wave. This wave is sent from the inter-digital transducers placed in the spoons (pockets) of each number. They send a wave to the ball that polarizes the surface with a negative charge. The spoon of the number is also negative, therefore the ball jumps out through electrostatic repulsion (see also Patent US9114940 ).
Each number pocket has a switch which is controlled by a transistor called IGBT. This transistor turns on the switch so that the spoon in negatively charged. The casino leaves the pockets that it wants the ball to go in neutral, or switch off. That’s why the balls goes crazy sometimes jumping hither and thither. It’s nothing more than a glorified slot machine!
Owners of slot machines legally set certain parameters on each machine. The casino will set the overall, acceptable profit percentage they want whatever happens, which is locked in and always keep that percentage for the house. Next the payout frequency can be set and finally how much to pay out. It’s not cheating per-se, but manipulating the overall payout structure and these last two settings can be altered each day to keep punters going from machines to machines to chase winning machines, or waiting for a slow payout to pay the big one. The casino will always get their percentage win rate and luck adds or subtracts from extra income and the punter feels his luck change from day to day (but always over time losing!)
Therefore, at their core, a slot machine will have this (RNG) Random Number Generator, which does exactly what it says it does: randomly generates numbers, which when you spin, generates a certain random combination of symbols across paylines.
The RNG works as an algorithm, and is programmed by a computer to generate those random numbers, with absolutely no rhyme or rhythm. You won’t be able to predict if or when you might win, because the results are completely random.
Although the early slot machines had a mechanical RNG, the idea was the same: results are randomly awarded, and there’s not much point in looking how to beat a slot machine. Many machines log results and patterns found and therefore, his system highlighted. What they do with that knowledge is their business, but for us it means don’t stay long on one system. Use a good system to pay big for minimum spins and win and run, if luck and the odds are in your favour.
Random number generators are very widely used in all online casinos and are the power behind many of the games you play. In brick and mortar houses RNG is being used more and more in automated (and even croupier spun) roulette wheels, which are called live wheels.
Obviously when a real roulette wheel spins the momentum of the wheel eventually slows down and the ball lands in one segment and the nearest pocket once settled, but not so a computer generated outcome.
People often consider that there is scope to fix these and that therefore they cannot be trusted, but a true random number generator cannot be fixed. A real wheel can be argued to have “patterns” in the outcomes, RNG doesn’t have the same as an old fashioned real wheel. A real wheel can certainly have slight flaws and biases perhaps, but not so much nowadays.
As soon as the wheel simulator is set in motion, it polls the random number generator and grabs the number it spits out at that precise moment. That’s why a number might show momentarily before the ball even settled! That accidentally happens more than you think.
To do this it then plays the spin starting faster and getting slower, for effect, while always intending to stop at the number it grabbed. While the programming is more complex the use of the genuine RNG gives the security and will be constantly checked by authorities.
The RNG will just work on a continuous loop using nothing more than the first and last number possibility. Over time one might argue that a pattern can be predicted in RNG, but this would be hard to spot and really meaningless, as it’s just RNG, a software random number generator needs an algorithm or seed to learn to spew its random numbers, but this is not required by the hardware version, so the authenticity is greater.
Number generators tend to work constantly even if no one is playing, and these are tested for evidence of randomness.
It means that when you play at an online casino and use a virtual table, you are being given an experience that is as close as possible to spinning the wheel and letting the fates decide. Some casinos will use the older style true random generator but obviously as technology moves forward things change.
Big names like 888, BetWay and many others offer RNG games across all their tables, and you can be assured they would not entertain cheating on their behalf. This is already a game of chance weighted slightly in their favour by their original settings and the odds that roulette has, and if you play the games at the most basic level of say red or black, or odd or even, you will win some and lose some. If you are losing, someone else is probably winning, so it equals out. If a casino ever dared risk it’s reputation by targeting some punters (perhaps if they’re winning a lot and often) or for any other reason they would be fools and there’s other ways to discourage punters from playing.
Interesting answer and thank you for sharing your knowledge:-
Are you saying that even the "Live Dealer" wheels are controlled by RNG? I mean it certainly feels like the ball is being acted upon by some mysterious force at times but surely the Casino's would have to state its being controlled by RNG.
Obviously the software based versions are all RNG and that is stated in the game information where they have to declare the RTP, we have even seen a few where there is a Pre-Recorded Human Dealer but its clearly stated as being RNG and the RTP is the usual 2.70% of European Roulette. There is an example near the end of our video th-cam.com/video/NpdRGBB81W0/w-d-xo.html.
As for the Immersive version from Evolution which is effectively a TV studio with its live stream fed into the major casino websites willing that pay for its service and software, We cannot find any reference in the small print to suggest it is RNG based, they go to great lengths to promote it as "Live Casino" with dealers changing every half hour or so. Surely it would be deemed fraudulent to go to such lengths to mis-inform their clients and they wouldn't be allowed to operate in such manner without declaring it. We are not talking about back-street operators here these are licensed corporates.
Our understanding is that any form of electronics employed in the wheel or any magnetic type properties of the ball were purely so the system can record where the ball lands and run the information and accounting side of the game.
If it was ever proven that there is more to it than that, then it would be a case of malfeasance including the licensing authorities, the operators and the system suppliers.
That is a good question, one we have hypothesised from the perspective of actually trying to build a system to do it. If as @dr.s.p suggest the casinos were actually able to control where the ball lands then in a kind of "Wisdom of the crowd" way it would likely be very simple to do even though multiple casinos share the same live feed.
We thought about it this way. If the TV feed is sold to 10 casino websites, its the casino that is responsible for taking your money and paying you out. So no individual casino can manipulate the wheel for their own needs as it would affect the other operators. So that gives you some comfort in a way.
However, the software provider / TV studio will be able to see all bets coming in from all operators, which might be lets say 10 customers playing at each of the 10 casinos so 100 player all placing bets on that 1 wheel.
Due to the randomness (of the crowd) of all bets placed we would guess if the TV studio always made sure the ball landed on the least covered pocket then due the randomness of the bets being placed where the ball lands would also appear random. (this could be enhanced with software to make sure randomness is achieved) - (remember the story about the ipod when it came out that apple had to make it less random as it could easily play 5 tracks off that same album in a row - which is random but didnt feel like it).
If that was the case then landing on the least covered pocket at all times would mean each casino makes maximum profits on every round.
It was just a thought thought - I mean that how we would try and do it!
@@roulette-professional - There’s quite a few sites that the ball dances this way and that way and dart of onto a pocket at the end of its run and is often bizarre to watch, but the number was fairly chosen by RNG and guided to the pocket by electronic means, whether by repulsing and/or attracting the ball to the pre-chosen pocket, and/or imperceptibly altering the speed of the wheel to help. Theres a few TH-cam videos that show the number coming up just a little before the ball does its final movement into a pocket. It’s only because the sync was out slightly and probably wouldn’t repeat. There’s nothing wrong with this as it is randomly chosen at the heart of this and can be inspected at any time by the relevant Commissions. There’s a lot of information around regarding the types of fair usage of RNG tables and can still promote having a croupier on a live game. It’s the way of the world. It allows any old table bias or alleged croupier control to be a thing of the past. As you might infer and many other state, that RNG might give different results, as compared to a randomly controlled non electronic outcome, so patterns don’t appear as much as they used to. Every system promoter always state, use a live table, meaning the old wheels that are not RNG at its heart.
Thank you for these nice comments RP.
Would like to see hi lo swtchingg effects
Appears in episode 4 onwards I think
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My magic hidden chart 🪄also shows the 1:1 betting sides too. I have other excel chart what could show it but I did not want to write the spun numbers to two different chart. So I made it on your hidden chart (at V2, 12 pockets). Thank you for colour change (red / black) what I use different column with a thin line, hidden numbers there :) the number 1 or number 2 don't help there nothing. This sheet (v2, 12 pockets) counts the 1:1 bet sides and show me if any of these was missing 15 times only. Yes, I don't like the 18 pockets betting (with martingale bet progression). So I try to don't use the 1:1 pay out sides. But if this happens 15 times... then maybe you can recommend a better covering like the bad martingale. For example if the black colour missing 15 times, then bet to column 1 and column 2 with 3 - 3 units, and 1 -1 unit to street 31, 22, 13 and 4. Total 10 units to 28 covered numbers. I know some numbers will pay back 9 unit only. And if I don't get back nothing then I can not take more like double bet and take 10 units to red. (Total expense: 40 units) And pray to the God of fertility and if this also lose then 50 units to red (cover 18 numbers only). Total expense: 90 unit. After this 3 levels I can not do more bet to this shit :D. Of course if the missing colour comes out then stop betting earlier. The 90 unit losing is my 3 or 4 profit target.
Of course my hidden chart also count the odd / even and the low / high too. Also let me know if one of these missed 15 times in a row.
Not sure what the god of fertility has to do with it - lol - Roulette is controlled by the devil! (and that will make more sense when you see the next video!)
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