Keep up the good work people. I have learnt so much in the month or so from you. I also adapted your excel spreadsheet to produce a dashboard with the 5 charts (even money and thirds), but have also added well known strategies to show their outcome for each spin. Thanks I am slowly understanding the more complex statistics
Thank you glad you like them - there is a lot more complex system coming but we have to start somewhere so hopefully by the time things get really complex everyone has learned along the way and each step is easy to manage than if we had just tried to present everything at once.
@@roulette-professional yup. People will have to digest things slowly. Also, I know you guys are also working to make new videos. It's not that simple and easy to make new videos with such a good and relatable graphics. Just gonna be patient from my end😁✌️
One last question, if you don't mind. Playing online roulette there are 3 types 1, live physical croupier, multilayer virtual rng table and 3, single player rng table the player presses the spin button. For option 3, I couldn't find out if these are true rng games or a fruit machine style controlled payout. Are single play online games best to be avoided. TIA
Ask as many questions as you want Terry . . . the RNG ones are usually set with the same pay-out as their physical counterpart ie about 97.3% for a European version. The casinos have to provide pay-out information its usually right at the bottom of the game info. To be honest we haven't done enough testing on those types of systems, they would be the easiest games to manipulate being effectively just lines of code. Our research has been on live dealer wheels although a number of people are saying these are controlled and not truly the results of the dealers spins as we are led to believe (we are doing some research on this at the moment - have a look through the comments on the first video in this series). The simple answer is at the moment we probably don't know any more than you do.
Well there are supposed to be bound by the licensing authorities but they seem more concerned with AML (anti-money laundering) issues than the fairness of any game.
One big factor in your experiment is the ability of the croupier, I as find lots know what speed to spin the wheel and ball to approximately hit a region (basic angular velocity, and practice /muscle memory), this can have a big impact on %'s for each quater being hit. Obviously bounces etc will also impact the spin but I have seen the same number hit 3 spins in a row. The question I ask myself is, do the online casinos communicate with the croupier to try and stick to a region or switch to another depending what has been wagered on that spin (I do not think this does happen though). Any thoughts?
Yes, we have heard a lot of people talk about dealer bias, I would think if there were any gifted croupiers then maybe they could make a difference at a brick and mortar casino dealing for a few players at a time, I doubt the big-business online versions would trust their fortunes to the ability of a small pool of dealers, and if that was true then it would strangely imply that a disproportionate amount of pretty twenty-something-females have abilities in this area. TH-cam Stats for this channel are showing our roulette specific audience is 98% YES 98% male so if the dealers are chosen for a gifted wrist action, we doubt its roulette related. On a serious note though, we have based our research loosely on the likes of Jim Simmons (algorithmic trader) and William Benter (algorithmic sports better). Short version:- Unlike Warren Buffet who understand the markets Simmons basically ignored any market knowledge looking only at patterns in the data to make his trading decisions. Benter did the same, he didn't care who the bookies though was favourite he did his own calculations looking at about 120 different data points I believe, and picked horses based purely on what the data told him. Apparently Simmons is a billionaire and Benter is reported to be worth 100's of millions. So we ignore everything except the patterns in the data, if there is any bias from a dealer it is quickly eroded when the next one comes along. As for 3 spins in a row you should see that happen about once in every 50653 spins 37x37x37 . . . (for a specific number, or once every 1369 spins for the number that just won x37x37)
@roulette-professional thanks for the response some extremely good points, I do try and study the spin data and save all my sessions so I can analyse the 10 or so strategies and see which would of preformed best. Keep up the good work and looking forward to the future videos
The croupier can see where people bet. It's no secret. A computer is worse by going to the smaller bets or none. 30 people betting on all numbers except number 3 will make the computer send it there. A person probably get the same instructions, but miss that 3 sometimes. You develop skill over time, though. Hitting 3 10 times in a row is suspect, so another number get priority. It's me with €0.1 at that point, but my deposit is ending soon.
@@elektron2kim666 Yes this is how we imagined it would be done if it was being done. we mentioned this concept in an answer to a viewers question from the last episode, but if we understood the game was being fixed in such a way it would still be beatable by calculating where you would expect the majority of players to be betting and do the opposite. We don't have enough data yet to conclude such a point - most of the information we are providing at the moment is from work done some time ago, the point you have raised and we mentioned in the last episode about how we would "Cheat" if we were in the casinos shoes is something we are working on right now.
I realize more and more that I don't have enough patience. If my win-stop is £25-£30 but I don't want play more like 15-20 mins then I need use higher unit size. Yes, I can do it. But I use 10 levels. If my minimum bet is 1 unit then the total cost is £120. Make £25-£30 fast is almost impossible if I wait until the different between the combined 3 and the its counted outcome is 3. Or the other side, the difference between the combined 5 and its counted number is 3. Of course I use the middle (combined 4) too. But here I I wait until the difference is 2. If I want do a progression 2-4 times only... during a session... and I want earn £25-£30 with this... I have to start these progression by 5 units. Ten levels what start with 5 units... need 600 units. And I have to pray to RP that please don't now start to do a looong period without any hit. 600 units : 25 sessions (25 session enough monthly) = 24 units. So if I lose 1 times.... I almost paid back everything what I won before. But this way could work better me I think... and for everybody who can not sit 60+ minutes in a session. After normal work do a session... please no. If I take bet less like in a longer session then the chance to find a long missing period is less likely to occur. What do you thing Mr.RP ?
Well yes just rocking up to a table for 20 mins a day with a small stake isn't going to get you far. Try tweaking the funnelling method settings in this video to see if you can get closer to what you want . . . th-cam.com/video/AmauEmKy1lw/w-d-xo.html The problem is the direct link between Time/Stake/Risk/Reward and you cant have it all unfortunately, something has to bend. 👍 RP.
Roulette is a fools game, being a pro Roulette player=pro loser. This is literally one of the worst games in the casino. Only one green makes it less advantageous for casino, but the odds they lay cant ever be beat. Near miss, truly hilarious. Like that is an actual thing lolololol
It’s true Roulette is difficult to master if you do not understand the scale of the results. The term near miss is something we have heard people complaining about where they think the casino is cheating, the point of this series is to demonstrate you can accurately calculate wins and near misses and just about anything you want if you understand the scale of the data. We know a miss is a miss, but the point of this is to highlight peoples perception often differs from reality in the sense they think the casino has purposely made the ball jump to a nearby pocket when in reality statistically speaking it will do it naturally x times in x spins.
Roulette and craps aren't random physical games. Precision placement is dictated by Quantum wave function technology, metaphysically operating beyond spacetime of human's mind eyes perception. For the perception of randomness, a limited amount of wins are injected. Any player doing Fibonacci on a single column or dozen regularly will suddenly get 14 to 20 misses, time after time. On live tables, it's wise to move or place bets, but only immediately after wheel spun, on any random outside sections. Any bets placed before wheel spun are basically sitting ducks inside or outside. Fibonacci and martingale systems are a must for a higher percentage win.
We picked this table because of the slow-mo replay’s where you can often see suspicious ball movements, so we might do a video of best bits from the 1000 spins we have recorded at the end of the series- that should be fairly entertaining!
This is where perception can fool us - you are right there were 5 zeros in the 100 spins we showed which is over expectation, however there were also 5x"2" 6x"3" 8x"19" 8x"22" and 7x"33" but often the zero sticks out more in our minds than the other numbers.
there is people betting 1000‘s at the same table and the guy thinks they r scamming him for his 1€ damn, u got problems dude was up after 2 spins and asks 40 spins in „where r the wins gone“ - in the long run… U WILL LOOSE, thats fact… why u dont leave after 2 spins?
We can only assume you didn't watch the first part of the series and therefore didn't get the point of the video. This is the second part in a series where we are playing 1000 spins to analyse the data it produces so it wouldn't make much sense leave after 2 spins. We are expecting to lose as near to £28 as possible over 10 sessions, and no we do not expect our measly bet to alter the course of the game. But thank you for your input, it does show us that we probably need to clarify the point of the series at the beginning of each video so viewers are not confused about what they are watching.
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Keep up the good work people. I have learnt so much in the month or so from you. I also adapted your excel spreadsheet to produce a dashboard with the 5 charts (even money and thirds), but have also added well known strategies to show their outcome for each spin. Thanks I am slowly understanding the more complex statistics
Brilliant I assume you have created some additional functions? Great to hear! Thanks for feedback!
I'm eagerly waiting for your new videos. I really want to make that 2nd advanced trackers with you.
Great way to analyse the game and place bets. 🙌
Thank you glad you like them - there is a lot more complex system coming but we have to start somewhere so hopefully by the time things get really complex everyone has learned along the way and each step is easy to manage than if we had just tried to present everything at once.
Glad you like them! Thanks for the comment!
@@roulette-professional yup. People will have to digest things slowly.
Also, I know you guys are also working to make new videos. It's not that simple and easy to make new videos with such a good and relatable graphics.
Just gonna be patient from my end😁✌️
One last question, if you don't mind. Playing online roulette there are 3 types 1, live physical croupier, multilayer virtual rng table and 3, single player rng table the player presses the spin button. For option 3, I couldn't find out if these are true rng games or a fruit machine style controlled payout. Are single play online games best to be avoided. TIA
Ask as many questions as you want Terry . . . the RNG ones are usually set with the same pay-out as their physical counterpart ie about 97.3% for a European version. The casinos have to provide pay-out information its usually right at the bottom of the game info.
To be honest we haven't done enough testing on those types of systems, they would be the easiest games to manipulate being effectively just lines of code. Our research has been on live dealer wheels although a number of people are saying these are controlled and not truly the results of the dealers spins as we are led to believe (we are doing some research on this at the moment - have a look through the comments on the first video in this series). The simple answer is at the moment we probably don't know any more than you do.
@@roulette-professionalI am playing for online Roulette since long, and I strongly feel results are pre-decided.
@@Skydiver237 Well hopefully we might be able to shed some light on this issue in the coming months.
They can do whatever they want to a large extent. You can also get your money back from a crime scene.
Well there are supposed to be bound by the licensing authorities but they seem more concerned with AML (anti-money laundering) issues than the fairness of any game.
One big factor in your experiment is the ability of the croupier, I as find lots know what speed to spin the wheel and ball to approximately hit a region (basic angular velocity, and practice /muscle memory), this can have a big impact on %'s for each quater being hit. Obviously bounces etc will also impact the spin but I have seen the same number hit 3 spins in a row. The question I ask myself is, do the online casinos communicate with the croupier to try and stick to a region or switch to another depending what has been wagered on that spin (I do not think this does happen though). Any thoughts?
Yes, we have heard a lot of people talk about dealer bias, I would think if there were any gifted croupiers then maybe they could make a difference at a brick and mortar casino dealing for a few players at a time, I doubt the big-business online versions would trust their fortunes to the ability of a small pool of dealers, and if that was true then it would strangely imply that a disproportionate amount of pretty twenty-something-females have abilities in this area.
TH-cam Stats for this channel are showing our roulette specific audience is 98% YES 98% male so if the dealers are chosen for a gifted wrist action, we doubt its roulette related.
On a serious note though, we have based our research loosely on the likes of Jim Simmons (algorithmic trader) and William Benter (algorithmic sports better). Short version:- Unlike Warren Buffet who understand the markets Simmons basically ignored any market knowledge looking only at patterns in the data to make his trading decisions. Benter did the same, he didn't care who the bookies though was favourite he did his own calculations looking at about 120 different data points I believe, and picked horses based purely on what the data told him. Apparently Simmons is a billionaire and Benter is reported to be worth 100's of millions.
So we ignore everything except the patterns in the data, if there is any bias from a dealer it is quickly eroded when the next one comes along.
As for 3 spins in a row you should see that happen about once in every 50653 spins 37x37x37 . . . (for a specific number, or once every 1369 spins for the number that just won x37x37)
@roulette-professional thanks for the response some extremely good points, I do try and study the spin data and save all my sessions so I can analyse the 10 or so strategies and see which would of preformed best. Keep up the good work and looking forward to the future videos
The croupier can see where people bet. It's no secret. A computer is worse by going to the smaller bets or none. 30 people betting on all numbers except number 3 will make the computer send it there. A person probably get the same instructions, but miss that 3 sometimes. You develop skill over time, though. Hitting 3 10 times in a row is suspect, so another number get priority. It's me with €0.1 at that point, but my deposit is ending soon.
@@elektron2kim666 Yes this is how we imagined it would be done if it was being done. we mentioned this concept in an answer to a viewers question from the last episode, but if we understood the game was being fixed in such a way it would still be beatable by calculating where you would expect the majority of players to be betting and do the opposite.
We don't have enough data yet to conclude such a point - most of the information we are providing at the moment is from work done some time ago, the point you have raised and we mentioned in the last episode about how we would "Cheat" if we were in the casinos shoes is something we are working on right now.
I realize more and more that I don't have enough patience. If my win-stop is £25-£30 but I don't want play more like 15-20 mins then I need use higher unit size. Yes, I can do it. But I use 10 levels. If my minimum bet is 1 unit then the total cost is £120. Make £25-£30 fast is almost impossible if I wait until the different between the combined 3 and the its counted outcome is 3. Or the other side, the difference between the combined 5 and its counted number is 3. Of course I use the middle (combined 4) too. But here I I wait until the difference is 2. If I want do a progression 2-4 times only... during a session... and I want earn £25-£30 with this... I have to start these progression by 5 units. Ten levels what start with 5 units... need 600 units. And I have to pray to RP that please don't now start to do a looong period without any hit. 600 units : 25 sessions (25 session enough monthly) = 24 units. So if I lose 1 times.... I almost paid back everything what I won before. But this way could work better me I think... and for everybody who can not sit 60+ minutes in a session. After normal work do a session... please no. If I take bet less like in a longer session then the chance to find a long missing period is less likely to occur. What do you thing Mr.RP ?
Well yes just rocking up to a table for 20 mins a day with a small stake isn't going to get you far. Try tweaking the funnelling method settings in this video to see if you can get closer to what you want . . . th-cam.com/video/AmauEmKy1lw/w-d-xo.html The problem is the direct link between Time/Stake/Risk/Reward and you cant have it all unfortunately, something has to bend. 👍 RP.
Good work 👊🏻✌️
Thank you! Cheers!
Roulette is a fools game, being a pro Roulette player=pro loser. This is literally one of the worst games in the casino. Only one green makes it less advantageous for casino, but the odds they lay cant ever be beat. Near miss, truly hilarious. Like that is an actual thing lolololol
It’s true Roulette is difficult to master if you do not understand the scale of the results. The term near miss is something we have heard people complaining about where they think the casino is cheating, the point of this series is to demonstrate you can accurately calculate wins and near misses and just about anything you want if you understand the scale of the data. We know a miss is a miss, but the point of this is to highlight peoples perception often differs from reality in the sense they think the casino has purposely made the ball jump to a nearby pocket when in reality statistically speaking it will do it naturally x times in x spins.
Roulette and craps aren't random physical games. Precision placement is dictated by Quantum wave function technology, metaphysically operating beyond spacetime of human's mind eyes perception. For the perception of randomness, a limited amount of wins are injected. Any player doing Fibonacci on a single column or dozen regularly will suddenly get 14 to 20 misses, time after time. On live tables, it's wise to move or place bets, but only immediately after wheel spun, on any random outside sections. Any bets placed before wheel spun are basically sitting ducks inside or outside. Fibonacci and martingale systems are a must for a higher percentage win.
Of course they do.The most obvious is live evolution immersive roulette
We picked this table because of the slow-mo replay’s where you can often see suspicious ball movements, so we might do a video of best bits from the 1000 spins we have recorded at the end of the series- that should be fairly entertaining!
great info
Thanks for watching!
Too many zeroes don’t you think
This is where perception can fool us - you are right there were 5 zeros in the 100 spins we showed which is over expectation, however there were also 5x"2" 6x"3" 8x"19" 8x"22" and 7x"33" but often the zero sticks out more in our minds than the other numbers.
Dont ever play online casino
Do you mean you don't ever play online casino's or in general people shouldn't play online casinos?
there is people betting 1000‘s at the same table and the guy thinks they r scamming him for his 1€
damn, u got problems
dude was up after 2 spins and asks 40 spins in „where r the wins gone“ - in the long run… U WILL LOOSE, thats fact…
why u dont leave after 2 spins?
We can only assume you didn't watch the first part of the series and therefore didn't get the point of the video.
This is the second part in a series where we are playing 1000 spins to analyse the data it produces so it wouldn't make much sense leave after 2 spins.
We are expecting to lose as near to £28 as possible over 10 sessions, and no we do not expect our measly bet to alter the course of the game.
But thank you for your input, it does show us that we probably need to clarify the point of the series at the beginning of each video so viewers are not confused about what they are watching.