Epiphone Les Paul Standard Plus Top Pro compared to Gibson Jimmy Page LP Review tonymckenziecom
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- Just how good is the Epiphone Standard Plus Top Pro? Gibson Jimmy Page good? Here I compare the two physically and with three tracks of audio. Is the Epiphone changing Gibson guitars forever and are those Far East guitars as good as a real Gibson? Find out in this very close up review.
I decided to show just how good or bad the Chinese Epiphone branded guitars really are (but not the cheap Chinese counterfeits or rubbish models). I loaned this guitar from a friend (Jamie Lee Jones) and carried out pretty extensive tests just to see exactly where that difference might lie between a $700 Epiphone and a $7000 Gibson Jimmy Page Les Paul from 1995.
Can you see it? Can you hear it? some guys will say the Gibson is better and some will say the Epiphone is 'better' whatever that means. Of course I can't show how it feels between the two, but watch the playing and I guess it will speak for itself which guitar has 'that feel and tone' of the two.
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Glad you’re well, another thorough review. Thanks Tony!
Yes I'm back on here and have some more stuff coming up presently... Thanks for watching.
I've never clicked on something so fast. Glad you're back Tony!
Ha :) well thanks and I really hope you liked this video. I have a number of them coming up over the next few weeks... just a time thing but they are mainly done... T
Tony, I have already bought a Pod Go thanks to you and now I will buy this Epiphone :) Greetings from Poland :) Sielek
Well I hope the Pod Go is great for you... and the Epiphone guitar shown here was certainly one great guitar. Clearly there is a difference between the two on the video, but the Epiphone stood up well to the test :) So thanks for watching and the post too...
Nice to see you back...get better soon...regards
I'm OK now but it put me in bed for at least two weeks. Harder as you get older for sure. I have more reviews coming presently... and thanks for watching.
Nice review and some nifty playing too. Thanks!
Thanks for watching Mark
Good to see you Tony! Hope all is well.
Indeed it is ... now! I had a really bad chest cough etc. hard to breath and that sort of stuff. But it has cleared up as you see in this video so I'm currently working on other reviews coming presently... some interesting gear. Thanks for that concern and thanks for watching.
Good to see you back Tony. Stay well mate.
Yes I'm fine now. Thanks for the concern but you'll have to put up with me some more :) some more stuff presently... and thanks for watching.
Tony, I’m a new subscriber. I really appreciate your in depth reviews and expertise. Can you please make a review on the Roger Lynn Adrenaline 3? Thanks
I would love too and I'll look around to see what's here... might be a while though... Thanks for watching and for those kind words.
Yet to plug this baby in. Just got it half price: 2016 mojave fade epi plustop pro with a hardcase. Sweet! Get to plug it in tomorrow, hope it's great.
Come back and post your opinion! and thanks for watching.
bang on with the epi body....i have 5 les pauls and 2 epi's both great guitars
Looks like the newer versions just released carry the flag even further... no doubt I'll check them out and show on my channel... thanks.
@@tonymckenziecom the best lespaul i have is my matt heafy epiphone with seymour duncan pickup vs my gibson
Hi Mr M. Great playing. It's sort of close isn't it? At least via mp4. Neck notwithstanding, was the action set up to your standards?
It is in the same area of course. Both guitars have Gibson pickups... although different models.
However, watch again and you can see firstly that the sustain on the JP is much longer and 'it almost played itself' and the tone was different. The Epiphone was very good for that money there is no doubt. The Gibson's 'feel' and that JPLP neck (after I had watched the videos) had a noticeable effect on the playing too I felt which was smoother overall than the Epiphone playing. But none of that is a criticism of the Epiphone.
One surprise was that they took the time on the Epiphone to actually veneer the back of the guitar with mahogany veneer which at first sight suggested a one piece body. I saw it had actually four pieces to it. It's clear to see where the costs were cut between the two. The other guitar I have that is even closer to the Gibson is a Tokai Love Rock Q something or other from the early 2000's made in Japan - and as I would partly on the Epiphone I had so substantially upgrade the pickups (to Bare Knuckle Mules) and the electrics, tuners and bridge to get in the same sort of area. Basically the Epiphone as supplied was BETTER than the Japanese Tokai for tuners and pickups. Unfortunately for the Tokai once I had completed all of that work and cost I could have bought a Gibson anyway (had I bought the Tokai for list price well over £1300 or $1900). Happily, I got the Tokai for just £400 (or $550) so that remains in my collection as a very good players guitar.
Jamie (the owner of the Epiphone) is learning guitar and the Epiphone is priced IMO exactly right so guitarists that need a good quality instrument can afford them that will not make them sell it and give up... now THATS a great reason to make Epiphone guitars.
Thanks for watching.
You are a very nice gentleman, I enjoyed they way you enjoyed the review!!
Hey Raul, thank you for your very kind words and for watching this video. I really do like to make videos of great music gear and guitars are always nice to talk about etc. and do check my channel - there are literally hundreds of videos on there. Thanks.
Very cool and great jam 🎸
Thanks for those kind words... and stay safe.
We missed you, Tony
Thanks ... and thanks for watching.
Thanks Jimmy really appreciated. Thanks for watching too.
I love an ass especially one with such a hole. Banned. So now you don't have to watch. How come there are so many idiots on TH-cam? I thought I'd ask you as you clearly were trained by someone.
Really great review and comparison - many thanks! I’m going to try one of these Epiphone LP’s out and see how it stacks up against my 2016 Gibson Les Paul 50’s Tribute.
The Epiphones I have tried are worth the money. There is a difference and when you play both like I did it becomes obvious. Both were good, but the JP was actually more inspiring to me as I played and it 'felt' different to play too. If you go back and watch the playing and compare it on both guitars, you should notice that my playing was better on the JP. But there is no doubt that for the money the Epiphone was a very good guitar. You should check it and see for yourself. Thanks for watching.
tonymckenziecom many thanks, appreciate it...I pulled the trigger on one today after trying it. Your review really helped! Shame that Music Store Pro in Hanley is closing, end of an era.
Probably the last week of MSP and a load of friends I have known for a very long time. They say they will reopen... but to be honest I remain to be convinced about that. What's left? little to nothing in the area and it will all become the dreaded mail order internet syndrome which has taken already so many great stores and is gnawing away right now. Sad really. Ha once you try an Epiphone LP it strikes home how good they are... and far better than some of the junk out there I could name.
Is this the Mojave Burst finish? Great review. I'm considering one as I bought an Epi. Black Beauty and I'm thrilled with the craftmanship and sound.
I might be wrong but I thought this one was a honey burst… I think I mentioned the finish in the review....
@@tonymckenziecom - Thanks! Didn't notice. Both gorgeous! Regards.
Is the epi plustop pro good as the less expensive gibson? Like the tribute and faded.
I also have a Gibson Studio of around 2016 reviewed on my channel and personally the studio I think sounds plays better... but might not look quite as nice. The Epi would be improved with pickup and wiring update I think. And maybe those tuners... Thanks for watching.
ty great video i have the heritage cherry burst love it
I liked the Epiphone on here. It was loaned to me by a friend so I compared the two because they were similar. The epi was so good that I later went and bought one of my own :) pretty cool guitar and the pickups sounded very good. Thanks.
Ello ello ello!
Hey Tony, sweet video! Yes, of course I liked the fancy video in video magic! I always like close up shots, mainly because I'm old and blind!
I love Epiphone! My all time favorite guitar is my Casino! My sons bought me an Epiphone LP jr for Christmas, mine has the single humbucker, and I love that cheeky guitar!
As for the people squawking about saddles being "backwards" you turn them around if you need a few more millimeters to get a string intonated! One end of each saddle has a 90 degree flat edge, the other has an angle, maybe 45 degree, and by flipping them around to the flat end, you get those extra few millimeters to move, and that makes a big difference sometimes.
Armatures! or as me old grandpap would say "armchairs" ;)
OH, I started a project Tony! I'm going to record some of my favorite classic rock songs, and I put together a web page where I'm gonna post them when they're done.
Right now I have a rough copy of Desperado, which has my vocal on the same track that all the instruments were bounced on. So I couldn't get a good mix, because I can't separate the vocal because I foolishly recorded it on the same track!
So....I'm going to start over, and this time one track for lead vocal, one track for harmonies, and a couple of track for the instruments...sigh
Anyway, you can have a listen to it as it is now, and over the next few days I'll be working on it and I will get a full, properly mixed recording of this song posted as soon as I can!
Then I'm shooting to record and post one complete song per week at a minimum, until I have ten to fifteen.
Here's the link - bronzesnake.wixsite.com/jvb1
Another awesome video by my favorite youtuber named Tony!!!
Take care my friend!
Jack - Canada
Good to hear you Mr Bronzesnake. Ha it was Video Pro X :). I have not really tried a Casino but I trust that what you say is correct... I'm sure it is!. Great answer for the 'reversed saddles... I did not mention why but you did so thanks for that.. Amateurs :) we both know the world is full of experts... and every one of those guys were destined to 'say something... anything!' so I just let them until I can't take any more of them, then they visit a line of guys that are banned. Sometimes they can be nasty but honestly, they go quiet when banned :)
Oh yeah, good for you on your recordings and that's why we're musicians right... to play the guitar and see our results. I'm generally reasonable on the videos, but when I record I work at that until its perfect... and you have my sympathy about recordings that have problems... I have been there over the years a lot.. it's worst when you get something down in a way that you think you could never do, but then there's some technical issue later. I kick myself when I do that.
Yep, that's the only way, get it right on each track before you move on, make sure there are no red outs etc. (my friend Alan Bruce can tell you about them :) then mix to perfection. These days I also run finals through Izotope 8 which is an incredible program for finalising audio for release if you are going to do that.
Thanks for the link... and I'll check it... but be careful now... :) the eyes of the world are on you :) guys will go and look!
Thanks for the kind words on this video, I liked making this one and am now back to making videos after a really bad chesty thing that put me out for many weeks.
Jack... its always an honour to have you watch. Thanks.
You are right about those guys in general. I don't really see the point. I have moved on somewhat of recent times and here in the UK they call them 'millennial meltdowns' or 'snowflakes' because they simply melt down at anything that they either don't like or just want to melt down over anything that takes their fancy :) Snowflakes is a good descriptor, because with the 'Millennial Meltdowns' it does not describe older people :) but still younger than the older guys... if you get what I mean.
I see them all the time and hear them too but not too much on here. To me, it is reflective of (some) the younger or maybe middle aged mentality but I guess not restricted to those.
I have never minded 'constructive' criticism, but for example on a subject like 'Chinese copy or counterfeit guitars' some of them try and suggest that copying others rights is OK somehow, when clearly it is not. Then you get the brigade that insists that the Chinese copy is better than the real deal.... that alone says a lot. Or the guys that want to gain viewers from things like 'Gibson goes bust next week' sort of stuff.
You know what, I hate to see people berating a company like Gibson. Every maker sells some guitars that are not perfect... but you don't hear those guys talking about the other makers. It's truly sad and from my experience totally unfounded.
Anyway enough of that and that thing about the guy deleting his channel of 9 years... wow, the losers of course are the viewers that wanted the channel to be there. Indeed I have currently 233 videos covering probably every aspect of guitars and I would hate to add up the hours and money I have spent on making those assets. I have currently over 36 million minutes of viewing to date and if I did monetise my channel I would have made good money... but I don't because I don't feel that it would help me to remain unbiased making money from viewers. The negative of course, is that because I don't operate a monetised channel I get no support for problems from TH-cam - even with those 233 videos. I think that is wrong. My channel clearly has loads of guys that come to TH-cam to see my videos but no support :( and I've had an email support issue for well over 15-18 months currently.
There are many aspects to running a channel of course, but I tend to believe that most of the viewers I have are genuine and decent guys and its just the very small minority that are antagonistic.
See I can rant too :) But I do try and keep my sensible head on and I tend to more often than not, if it's just hearsay they base their comments on then I tell them so.
regards... T.
Welcome back Tony! Thanks for another video containing the Gibson Jimmy Page. It's one of my favorite guitars of yours. The Epiphone seems a worthy substitute if you can't have the real one.
The bronchitis did not get the better of me :) but it was really hard to shake this time. The JP is actually my favourite Gibson guitar that I own and it at one time was the main guitar back in the 90's when I was in bands... but today it's increased in price so I'm pretty careful with it.
The Epiphone was very good especially for that price and if I was back in a band I would get one of those as a knock around to save the Gibsons.
Thanks for watching James and glad you liked it.
You're welcome Tony. My pleasure. Glad you got over the bronchitis.
What is the colour of that epiphone ?
If I remember I think it was antique sunburst... I could be wrong though... I even bought one after but don't actually remember the exact colour. Thanks.
That Epiphone is awesome!!! A real value Les Paul for the money. Being a left handed player, we are limited to one color for the finish unfortunately, but still they are a great guitar to own. Thanks for sharing your opinion Tony and I keep up the great work!
Yes the Epi is a great guitar for the money for sure and while construction is different etc. the guitar I thought was well worth the money too. Thanks for watching Jamal.
Jamal Kareem Hey mate, as a fellow lefty I feel your pain! I tried a 4k custom Gibson LP and the pots worked like on/off switches, after that I couldn’t ever justify paying them so much when they can’t be bothered to buy some reverse tapered pots for us lefties.
How are the volume and tone pots on your plustop? I checked with a store and they said they are linear so I guess they roll off gradually, would appreciate your input as I’m going to get one of these and change the hardware.
I just bought the honey burst epi PlusTop PRO it sounds almost identical to my Gibson studio. Best purchase ever. Yours sounds amazing as well!
Excellent for the money no doubt. Thanks for watching.
I had hoped you would of played it clean and demonstrated the push pull option. All in all good review.
Fair point... but hey its only rock n roll :) Thanks for watching.
Both sound great. I've owned Gibbies and Epis, and I can say that Gibsons have a certain x-factor about them that makes playing them feel better. Maybe its the solid 1-piece body (and neck), maybe its the nitro finish, maybe somehow it's the more tilted headstock, or maybe its all of it but Gibsons tend to "give back" more in terms of how they feel and sustain. All that being said, Epiphones get you surprisingly very close to all that for what they cost. I've gigged with Epiphones and got no complaints.
Speaking of nitro finishes, it can't be understated how much that type of lacquer drives the price up along with the other features. To apply nitro, you need a special dedicated facility with all kinds of environmental and safety compliance measures; with poly, you just slather it on. So its no wonder Gibsons cost what they do.
I can agree with you, there is a difference that I can only describe as the 'feel' when playing the Gibson. I took each guitar and tried to treat them exactly the same with playing, but when I was using the Gibson that feel (and a slight tone difference but not much) inspired me to play better than with the Epiphone. I liked the Epiphone so much that later after giving this one back to a work mate, I went and bought one. There is no doubt that for the £399.00 I paid for one of these that they are a very good guitar. It is rather heavier than the Gibson.
I agree re the H&S angle, but more often than not in China things are different. I don't understand why China is not walloping Nitro on the Epiphone. H&S out the window :) I too know also of the preparation before the nitro goes on is really critical - so maybe its a time thing.
Good points and thanks for watching.
Nice video. I was curious if the Epiphone ever had a proper set up ? I know sometimes the cheaper guitars can come rather difficult to play with higher action and more gritty fret board, but with a great set up can play much better. I own a 91 gibson LP 1960s reissue which looks very much like your JP, and it plays like butter. I bought a vintage brand V100 and it had a pretty high action out of the box but after a set up it plays much better.
The Epiphone WAS set up by the dealer before delivery and I believe 9's were fitted if I remember correctly. It was not my guitar but I know the owner very well. I guess like everything you get what you pay for but the setup is not too hard to do and increases the guitars playability. Thanks for watching.
tonymckenziecom thanks for the response. I’m considering getting an Epiphone Standard plus top with the vintage dark sunburst and flamed veneer. It looks so nice and I can’t justify 2500 + for a Gibson that looks like that. Thanks
The flamed maple on the Epiphone is a veneer right? It has to be for that price I guess.
Yes it is. The scary thing I thought was the veneer on the back of mahogany to hide the composite 4 piece body! You don't notice it until you really look. But its a good guitar for the money you pay of that there's no doubt. I liked Jamie's case too for about £40-45 ($60). Thanks for watching.
Nice playing Tony and a fair comparison.....for the money and it’s tight for most of us....the Epiphone is a formidable weapon of choice....
Indeed... I just bought one very similar to the one in the review for just a few hundred pounds (£399 or $600 with tax) and can hardly be bettered for that money really. Thanks for watching and for those kind words.
Good job sir i like ur video its awesome n' you rock 🎸
Thanks for watching and stay safe.
nice video
Thanks and glad you liked it.... stay safe.
I wish i would have bought a page signature when i had the chance when they came out, the price soared, i couldn't justify the 4000.00 plus GC price, with the bills we had.. looking at what they go for now, i think i missed the boat ..
I paid (in 1996) £2800 UK price which included the TAX. Sounds equivalent re £/$ to me. Yes they cost more now for sure. I like mine in particular the neck profile is really unique. Thanks for watching.
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Indeed :) trust you're OK Tommy. Thanks for watching as always and give my regards top the dead cats :).
tonymckenziecom I am well. We are moving the house. Holy Shat. Never again...
Best of luck with that... it can be hard to do.
With all that gain and being out of tune you can’t tell what these guitars sound like. The Page Les Paul is in a different league completely.
Must be mine and everyone else's ears then... :) The JPLP played differently and 'felt' better to play too... more inspiring to play I thought. Thanks for watching.
Do you prefer your Les Paul with or without a pickguard???
Generally my guitars (Les Pauls and derivatives) do not have pick guards on them. In the case of the Jimmy Page it was removed because there's a JP signature in gold that was wearing off. Its in the case to protect the guitar pickguard from wear. But as far as actual playing goes I don't care if its there or not. Thanks...
It is hard to compare to guitars with different pick ups They should have the same pickup to be juged the fare way
Fair argument of course, but between these two the Epi does get near for sure. Thanks for watching.
Nice video. I have been a strong advocate for the 90s page les Paul’s for years. Mine is one the best guitars in my collection. Recording wise they really set themselves apart and I think when you compare them to any guitar - even in their class, they seem to have just a little more something.
Great to know you have one. I did at one stage get 'loaned' one of these that was made a couple of years after mine... I was shocked at how it was finished. The sunburst was a 'thick' line around the edge of the guitar and compared to my own honestly it was not good. I was glad to see that one go back. I think the secret is in the neck - best neck I have... thanks...
@@tonymckenziecom I have heard rumors that they changed some specs up after a certain point. Not sure how true that is. My burst is very dark, but the flame is very intense. Neck is def my fav part too! Mine is from 95’. Cheers man!
I think they did too. Maybe 97 on until demise in 99. Seems the man that mattered did not like the guitar as it was? However, those later ones were not good - at least in my experience. Hang on to it!
@@tonymckenziecom interesting. So you think they will go up in value? I got mine for short money. I assumed it being a USA it wasn’t a custom shop price new. I was 4 in 95’ so I have no idea. Thanks for chatting about these. There’s not a whole lot of info about them. I didn’t realize what I had stumbled upon until recently lol
The guitar in 1996 (when I bought mine) was a street price of £2800 (at that time about $3800 or more). List price was high. The JPLP was a lot more expensive than the regular guitars from Gibson - at least here in the UK I believe. Many don't like the JPLP (basically because there were later 5 x more expensive ones!) but if you have everything with it and a decent looking top etc. here they can go for towards £5500 to £6000 and maybe similar in the USA... but there is a difference there than here re price... always costs more here because of the tax... (currently 20% on top). There is not doubt that the guitar has 'held its own' and some will contest it and say ah but with inflation etc. But they forget one thing.... I used it since 1996 for free! Think of it like that. Thanks...
Great video ..loved it ..not much in the sounds of those guitars ..be interesting if both had the same electrics .got a Epiphone Les Paul pro ..satin finish back and sides having little dust over the frets and bone nut fitted ..beautiful guitar ..apparently the Epiphones Have a lot of hand finishing to .love the Gibson to
Yes I liked this Epiphone a lot and it is substantially better than the el cheapo stuff I see out there and have had some experience with. In fact when I gave this Epiphone back I did actually buy a similar one for just £399.00 ($525) which is a great price for a guitar like that. There IS a difference between these two guitars in tone and more so in the 'feel' of the guitar and how it can inspire you to play. IMO the Gibson is a better guitar, but don't hold that against Epiphone - I can recommend those without even wondering about the guitars quality and I have reviewed a few off and on. Great value and just about as low down the guitar chain for the price where you are pretty much guaranteed a guitar that plays as it should. Thanks for watching.
Tony, nice job in the comparison and sound demo.
For me the JPLP sounded raw and left the ELP sounding a little sanitised which could just be the pickups. My Guess is that that most would buy based on budget and be happy either way with the overall sound and tone. Most (if honest with themselves) would buy a genuine GLP if money was no object, but most don’t have that choice.
I am lucky enough to own both and can say the ELP is a great guitar that gets a fair run at her play time (For the record I can’t do either of them real justice). I can will say based on experience, think twice about buying for the name and quality as the difference may not be as great as you expect!
Nice work.
Thanks for the comment Jimmx. The ELP was a really nice guitar for what it costs there is no doubt about that. In fact just a week ago I bought one of these for my own use more as a 'knock around' in the studio. And for me that's an important aspect... I don't want to damage the expensive guitars so I use one of the ELP's. To me there is a difference, but as you say it is relative to the musician and whether he values the guitar accordingly. On these two, the neck on the real deal was far different than the ELP which was for me a pretty important feature, but there's no doubt the ELP performed pretty well. Thanks for watching and for your info.
tonymckenziecom Agree Tony, the neck on my GLPS is a definite game changer in the feel department. Did a back to back today just for the fun of it and no doubt where my loyalty sits.
All the best.
Jimmy
;-) Thanks for the info...
Looks like the Epi headstock is angled back less than the gibby
I did not look too close on that but I would not be surprised. Remember though that the Jimmy Page Les Paul might or might not be exactly the same as other Gibsons. Well spotted though! and thanks.
You do a great job on videos. I want to mention, however that with the amount of gain / distortion it's hard to tell the tones apart. I have an Epphone Plus Top in mint condition. It's nice in every way but I thought the neck is too thick for me but lately I tried it again and it was fine. Just not used to Les Paul style but it's really growing on me. I have many guitars including Telecasters, Strats, SUperstrats, etc. and I like them all in different ways. Les Paul has it's place and these Epiphones are underrated
Thanks. I agree with you on the tones used and will address that somewhat in future... Ha I like to play with tones that I tend to use myself and that could be a problem I agree, noted... and thanks for watching. Thanks for your views on the guitar too.
Well, I test played mine few days ago and it was awesome. Such a solid instrument, powerrful and lots pf sustain. Neck is o.K., I guess I was just rusty on last New Years eve gig, so I am keeping my Epi now... it's as close I will ever be able to afford to a Gibson LP. Actually It says Gibson on the truss cover... to me it is a Gibson though some will argue. For $625 it's close enough and I can modify it to be as good anyway
Does the more expensive Les Paul have the same feel as the Epiphone? ( thickness, profile shape). I have this Epiphone and two LP copies custom upgraded parts, and those necks are different. The one made by Electra is really thin in comparison and easier to play in a way.
Nothing wrong with the Epiphone. Indeed this review confirms that - as well as other reviews I have concluded on my channel.
No. The neck on the JPLP is very different. In fact it's different than all the Les Pauls I have ever played - in a really good way. Gibson said it was an exact profile of Jimmy's real neck on his Les Paul. I have a number of Les Pauls but none are like the JPLP imo. The Tokai (Japanese) is a nice LP too.
I’ve worked on a few of these Pro models. Very, very well made guitars. Play and sound good too. But.....the deeper you look, the cheaper they fall. Still a great value...
I agree they are not perfect by any means. The nearest I have come to a Gibson was the Tokai Japanese made one and even that needed some work. But it is a pretty good guitar for the cost I thought. The veneer on the back was sneaky... you don't notice its a composite body just on the face of it, but closer you look.... Thanks T.
Nice review. If people could get past what's on a headstock, the Epi is a great guitar for the comparative money.
The Epiphone was a good value for the price guitar and truth is it was up against the best guitar I have. Best is a funny word here as its subjective, but how I would describe the two is that the JPLP I would choose if I played all the time as a pro, and the Epi would be used as anything else. Both great in their own way. The feel between the two was substantially different and that's what drives my comment really. Thanks for watching.
Was the jam song Gary Moore Don't believe a word?
Indeed. Not my best playing of it... but I always did like the original slower version as released on 'back on the streets' :) Thanks and stay safe.
@@tonymckenziecom Exactly, nice tunes in that one, spanish guitar...
which colour is that
The colour is probably described here: www.epiphone.com/Products/Electrics/Les-Paul/Les-Paul-Standard-Plustop-PRO.aspx and I hope that helps... thanks.
Excellent
Thanks for watching James.
We never got the hex effects video :/
Which product... I might have it...
@@tonymckenziecom sorry, autocorrect changed my comment. Line 6 HX Effects
Sadly I did not review the HX... no particular reason except maybe swamped at the time with other simulators... thanks.
Thats some nice Thin Lizzy stuff going on!
Thanks... I always liked GM and Lizzy.
Glad you back Tony, few corrections here :) It is not a standard pro, standard pros do not have a flamed top, it is a plus top pro which makes like a 50$ diffrence. The pickups are probucker 2&3 by epiphone (not burstbuckers epiphone branded probuckers) dont remember which is bridge and such, got this guitar in exact same honeyburst for 282 euros and god damn it`s a steal but the wiring is really bad and the pots are bad too. But it is a great guitar if you can get the price right.
standard plus top pro if you want the exact model :)
and on the epiphone the colour is diffrent on the back from the cavity bc it is a veneer.
Correct it IS a veneer which surprised me a little... you could see the pieces of wood at the body end.
Thanks for that.
Thanks for the info - my friend did not know the model so I called it what I saw :) and was wrong :)
Pickups were not bad actually, but I could hear and 'feel' the difference when playing either guitar. 282 euros is a great price though and I would be inclined to 'fix' the wiring accordingly for that. My mate Jamie paid I think £450 which was still cheaper than the list price etc. but then he was also supporting the local music store which can be a good idea.
Thanks for all the info and I'll amend the title too :) Thanks for watching.
I bought an epiphone pro plus lmnop ;) as a fluke, I never buy guitars without playing them, first one I ever bought online...I fn love it the neck is perfect, the craftsmanship is spot on, and with coil taps, it's tones are quite tweekable A++...and I'm a Strat guy ;)
The Epi is a great buy for that money. Indeed I later bought one for knocking around in the studio while the JP stays there for specific recording. Very good for the money and that's the point of the Epi... the best? That's the JPLP. Thanks for watching.
Gibson has to win over Epiphone in terms of quality but the gold hardware is too bling for me ;-) I believe the Probuckers are a very similar spec to Gibson Burstbuckers 🤔 I’d choose the lightest one. Unless it’s the Epi. I already have that 😂
Great Thin Lizzy jam, Tony! 👏
For me, this is one of the best Gibson Les Paul's I have played and a big part is the neck shape - brilliant. The Epi did well to even compare I think. Thanks for watching. TL were great and remembered fondly.
and neck joint is slighty straighter than a standard gibson les paul by i think 2 degrees to eliminate the as we all know neck breakage that is common with older gibson les pauls. :)
Thanks for the info - I missed that point... and thanks for watching.
Thanks for the review Tony, being on a limited budget and not being the greatest player I'm a fan of epiphone guitars and I've owned a few over the years. From my experience the models coming out of the Gibson epiphone factory since 2014 are way above previous models in tone, finish and build quality either that or I've been very lucky with the selections I've made and the upgraded Pro pickups really push these models past their competitors. The cheap copy's and fakes don't have anything like the sort of quality components on the epiphone guitars.
You get these you tubers reviewing their chibsons and summerising that they believe they're epiphones. THEY ARE NOT.
Were they get the idea that Gibson are actually faking their own guitars I'll never know.
Nice thin lizzy licks on the playing section of the review.
The Epiphone's are great. For that cost there is nothing to not like... and even if you paid list for them they stand up really well. After reviewing this Epiphone (a friends) I later bought on for £399 in the UK and its great... like the one shown here. You're right on the cheap stuff most of that is really not that good and some of it is absolute rubbish. The Chibsons I agree are not Epiphone... more fibsons really. Thanks for your input on here and as an owner that's great... helps others for sure. Lizzy... great stuff I always liked that band. Thanks for watching.
I love you Sir Paul!
Indeed, the only difference is my talent and bank account :) Thanks.
Nice review Tony. I have a couple of Epiphone’s and a couple of Gibson’s. I love them all. You can’t choose between your babies. 😜
The Epiphones are very good especially for that money. Even the pickups do the job well and I have no problems with Epiphone because they work!. The LP Jimmy Page works too :) and overall it 'felt' different to play really. After reviewing the Epiphone and giving it back to my workmate I went and bought one. No regrets. Thanks for watching.
Hats off to the people that make these epiphones in China, I've got an epi 2012 from new and it's been great .
I'm on quite a low income, if I didn't have to pay out so much on just living in this country I'd probably splash out on a gibson.
Epiphone have made it possible for me to play something that is a pretty near copy of a gibson that plays ,sounds and looks good.
Your vid shows well what to get for 400 quid 👍
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Personally I think they are a great alternative to the Chinese copies out there that are more often than not basically mutton dressed as lamb. The quality on the Epiphone is great especially for that money and you can just buy one in whatever country you are in and actually have a good warranty. I agree that it's great for guys to actually get a decent playing guitar for that money... man when I was young guitars used to cost a real fortune... 1971 a basic SG was about £450 - sounds cheap now, but I was earning about £15 a week or so. Thanks for watching this video and stay safe.
@@tonymckenziecom there are multiple stories of famous 60s guitarists staring into shop windows at strats and les Paul's that they couldent afford before their fame.
We are fortunate nowadays that we can get something close to the real thing.
I've looked at your guitars on your vids, and it's a great collection you've got, well worth spending the money. Stay safe and keep away from folk 👍
Trust me I was one of them... at 16 and not a lot of income as an apprentice at the time. I also used to catch a bus from a particular bus stop and the garage right there had a showroom with Jensen Interceptors inside - incredible money of course and at the time they looked out of this world... today I think they did not stand the test of time too well :) but there you go. I have been collecting guitars for a long time now and I certainly have too many :) is that possible :). Yes you stay away from the madding crowds too :).
@@davescupper5789 I own a 2007 Epiphone LP ‘56 Gold Top I bought used. The seller stated it has upgraded P90 pups. I don’t recall if he specified which brand pups. Anyway, the guitar plays and sounds incredible. The P90s sound so sweet clean or with OD and distortion. The build quality is fantastic. The guitar checks all the boxes for me. Now I want to mention, I own a ‘71 Gibson black LP custom I bought new in ‘71. My MIC Epiphone is on par with the ‘71 in terms of performance and quality. I’m always on the lookout for another Epiphone LP made in the same factory and the same time frame. I bought a new Epiphone inspired by Gibson in 2020 from Sweetwater. I eventually sold it bc it didn’t feel like either of my
two LPs. I wanted to like it bc it looked gorgeous. I didn’t bond with it.
Greetings Sir,
They sound pretty much the same to me.
Thx for posting,
Cheers
Listen again. They are different. But that does not mean the Epiphone was bad. I thought for the money that was not a bad instrument at all. Everything in the audio chain was exactly the same for both guitars, but you might notice that the Epi did not sustain in the same way and overall did not have anything like the same playability. But still a good guitar. Thanks for watching too.
Well you can clearly hear a difference, and I'm sure your Gibson neck/action feels better😝 but that's a great price and it's a beauty!
The Epi is good for that money and that's the target audience I guess it was made for - guys that don't want (or can't afford) a JPLP or other Gibson. I liked this review as it does show the differences in tones and playability - notice the Gibson was being played with a different feel to things - you can see that in my playing. Re tones NOTHING was changed except the guitars not even the lead :) so I think this is a pretty good example video of the differences. The playability was really quite different between them and if I was a pro guitarist the Gibson would be the choice, but for bedroom, pub and bar etc. the Epi works. Thanks for watching.
clearly hear a difference... lol.. they sounded identical.. i think your eyes can hear the difference more than anything.. save yourself 3000 dollars and buy the epi.... amps and fingers make 99% of the sound coming out of a guitar. unless you have dirt cheap pickups.... if you think any different then you have a hearing problem...
Actually I did point out that there is a difference and I was playing both of them. There are two differences from a players point of view. Firstly the tone between the two and secondly there was a clearly different feel to the playing between the two also. I would describe the different feel like something that could inspire me to play 'better' especially if improvising lead guitar (don't we all?). There is one other difference to and one which you did not mention that I will. The Epiphone on a good day is worth used about £300 ($400) and the Gibson Jimmy Page (this one) is worth around $6000. That's not really the point though. The point is, that the Gibson cost me about $3000 when I bought it and now they are typical at about $6K. So, taking everything in to account even if the sound and feel were 'the same' just buying the Epiphone (nothing wrong with the guitar) would have actually cost me about $3000 and its something you failed to mention. Nothing to do with hearing I'm afraid, but to do with hard nosed cash gain. Personally I know which one I prefer ;-) Actually good points you raised and thanks for that... gave me something to do as a reply. Thanks.
feel better tony
Yep! and thanks for watching.
I will go for the Robertson Les Paul ;)
:) Ha.. like the Jam :) Thanks for watching.
tonymckenziecom I just discover your website and youtube channel. I like it so much.
In fact, I was looking for a review of an epiphone les paul because i am about to buy a « last » » guitar, Thin Lizzy dead fan (ex-bassist I am away from music for more than 20 years !) for my only pleasure and my budget is around 700 USD. I was going for the STANDARD PLUS-TOP PRO but now I feel confuse. As I really trust your opinon, would you have an advice ? I don’t want an « used » guitar because in my country there is no shop and I don’t feel secure with used guitar from internet. Thank you !
This is the Epiphone Les Paul Standard Pro guitar I believe and there is a version on Epiphone site that is the same but also a Plus-Top' but that seems to denote a more figured top on the body and everything else is the same... it IS confusing I agree and Epiphone have many models for sure here: www.epiphone.com/Products/Electrics/Les-Paul.aspx
I don't think you will go wrong with the 'Standard Plus-Top Pro' so don't be concerned about that. Basically the same ;-) Hope it helps and thanks for watching.
tonymckenziecom Thanks a lot for your answer. I really appreciate your kindness and your playing !
Don't believe a word, dancing in the moonlight and still in love with you. Amazing songs; good to see you again
If only I was a Gary Moore :) or any of those other two guitarists. Lizzy were rock gods of the era for sure and very underrated in some places in the world and a really sad epitaph for Phil Lynott - RIP Phil. I just wish it had all been different for that band and indeed Gary Moore - one of my favourite guitarists for sure. Thanks for watching and I have more stuff coming presently.
tonymckenziecom still influencing people today though. I love the feeling that Brian Robertson had, can't stop listening to any of the albums. RIP indeed.
tonymckenziecom forgot to mention the colorsound wah Robertson used. Managed to pick 2 up: just amazing, I absolutely love them (an early 70s I think it's a 1970 tbh and a 1974)
Yes I listen a lot too.
Those fetch money today don't they? Finding them at the right price is the secret, often you see them but at ridiculously high pricing. I did have one back in the day but not since then.
but a great comparison cheers from doncaster born.....now living in canada
Doncaster :) a little further up than me :) Good to hear you.
Tony, You're about the best guitar player I've seen.
Not on these videos I'm not :) I do get things right on the CD's I released but these are really throw away videos and I don't have the time to invest in getting playing correct, I am not under review for the playing so the results are sometimes not that good... but sometimes I do get it right on video also. Thanks for those kind words but there are some that eat me for breakfast in the playing stakes :) ... but (there is one!) I make better reviews :)
Thanks for watching.
Well... I've shown you mine... now show us yours :)
Hey Tony, your 1 to 5 is pretty dead on.......that's what i consider also.....nice playing.
Thanks eddy... and for watching.
I have 14 Gibsons and 2 Epiphones. (A Les Paul Standard Plus Top Pro and a Les Paul Tribute Plus) My Epiphones hold their own :)
I agree... I like the Epiphone as in this video (owned by a work colleague). Indeed, after I gave it back I bought one :) Thanks for watching.
I had a REAL Gibson Les Paul Deluxe back in the 90's but the neck had an uneven seam running along the entire back length that always bothered me. I was somewhat disappointed in the lack of Gibson's quality control, but I couldn't pass it up because I got it at a great price from a friend who was in dire straits and needed the money. Every shop wanted a small fortune to replace the neck so that never happened. I sold it and moved on to a Strat.
I have never had a single bad one... it is clear that every maker sometimes lets guitars slip through and even back in the day, Gibson or any other brand were no exceptions for sure. Thanks for the info and for watching.
I think that the Epi sounds great. Buy 5 Epiphones, swap out the nuts, Pups, Pots and Caps if you feel you must, I did on mine, its a fine instrument. And of course the JP is fantastic as well but I think you can see and hear the law of diminishing returns here in this video.
Indeed the Epiphone performed well against the Gibson. And sure you can change the parts out as you suggested. I did that on a Tokai here: th-cam.com/video/bg4buTRVaYw/w-d-xo.html and had a contest to see if guys could tell it was not a Gibson so to speak. Actually the Epi in this review was not mine, but I have been out since and bought one for the pittance it actually costs (mine was £399 or $600 including tax).
Overall though, the one thing that never can be heard in the true sense is the 'feel' of the guitar. I have said this before to others - you will notice that I tended to play 'better' with the Gibson. That was not for any old reason. To me, the Gibson and it's feel and tone equated to better inspiration when I played the video... at the time unconsciously, but later when I compared the two I could see the difference in my playing.
But no doubt the Epiphones are great for the money and recommended. Thanks for watching.
Epiphone Great but With This Razor Sound the Dynamic of Guitar is Not Audible
That's a subjective opinion of course and difficult to quantify. I don't think there were other posts saying that about the tones? You could be right of course... thanks for watching.
Podrías haber tocado algo de Jimmy page...
Realmente no porque entonces mi canal tendría un problema de derechos de autor ... No me culpes, culpa sabes quién :) Gracias por vernos.
If you can get a hold of the epiphone tribute plus, i think it would be a closer match in terms of construction. The standard pro plustop does not have a carved hard maple cap, only a veneer. the tribute plus does have it. and it comes with Gibson 57 classics pickups. I think that should be a better match although i have no doubt the jimmy page is gonna win again.
See... I learn from you guys too :) That was a point I bet many guys did not know either... solid non veneer on the Epiphone tribute... Ha the JP is a very good guitar though and losing to that is not really losing :) Thanks for watching.
Uhh the tribute plus also uses a veneer just like the standard plustop pro but underneath the tribute plus, there is an addition of a hard carved maple cap. The standard plustop pro does not have a hard maple cap underneath, just a maple veneer on a carved mahogany body, at least for the ones that are currently in production from china. Im sure there are variations if were talking about some old epiphone's from korea or some other asian country.
I have seen the maple with veneer over the nondescript maple and that seems to be a Far East trait. I was a little surprised when you said... but not even a maple cap on some is then misleading buyers - they should know better.
Im not sure if they are intentionally misleading people too as certain products are only meant to be sold for certain markets like signature guitars for Asian guitarists(theres only 1 guy as far as i know). They probably prioritize the US, UK, Canada, Australia etc with the better ones as these countries can usually afford to pay a little more/cost a bit less to sell to these countries.
I understand... but in any case thanks again for the info.
Note for note the Gibson is much better, id think with the same pickups they would be closer. The Epi will never sound the same because of the finish
on the Gibson, they just have that sound.
It 'feels' better when you play the Gibson. Also the Gibson is a 1995 vintage that will contribute to tones but maybe not as much as some might suggest. Yes likely the pickups would improve the Epiphone I also agree with that. But overall a good guitar for the money. Thanks for watching.
4:50---Ouch, you have a $7,000 Page LP laying flat with pressure on the headstock? You've also removed the pickguard? I feel sick.
Now calm down.... no animals were hurt in the filming ;-) AND the guitar remains fine. Thanks.
HA > OK, young Sir... I'm breathing normally now! I finally acquired my Honeyburst '95 JP in July for $3,100 and I am infatuated. I plug straight in to my Carr Skylark and it's all I'll ever need. I did talk to Jimmy though and he is insisting your pick guard be replaced. Cheers!@@tonymckenziecom
:) You did well at that price for sure and they are not that common. Book is about $6000 just FYI from what I see. You will find the neck is absolutely incredible and very easy to play... it just feels right!. I removed the pick guard because it gets worn very quickly and its in the case. You have probably seen this, but here's a close up video of the JPLP I made a while back : th-cam.com/video/a5vXqz6G3Og/w-d-xo.html and one where its played through a Mesa MK V: th-cam.com/video/xAiOb4mqJVo/w-d-xo.html and I hope you like it all. Thanks for watching from one JP owner to another... and have a great new year...
You definitely have the fingers! Have you heard a Carr? Check out some youtube vids.@@tonymckenziecom
Indeed I have heard of Carr amps... I have not tried them though (yet) but no doubt at some stage I will. I prefer to check the amps myself really because there are so many videos of different gear that are just sales videos... always best to check those sort of things myself :) I have loads of tube amps though and Carr is certainly one to check. Not sure if you ever heard of Mezzabarba amps, but here's a review I did for that amp and its certainly up there somewhere... check it out: th-cam.com/video/C4WLh0vYaIs/w-d-xo.html and thanks for the recommendation for Carr.
Those are true Gibson Pickups Tony. I believe 57s... I did a pickup change on one. (The Epi)..
I thought Burstbuckers or II's? But in any case they seemed fine.
tonymckenziecom they might me. I forgot. But they do make a big difference.
Good pickups make a huge, huge difference.
I watched a video of another service guy saying something like “Gibson should make a Chinese model Gibson”.
Coughepiphonecough.
But Epiphones are very good guitars.
But there’s a difference.
There really is.
Yes I agree there is for sure. I tried very hard to actually show a difference and not just in the instrument itself and how they are made, but in the tones - the playability was substantially better on the Gibson... but it should be for that money. I checked the pickups which are ProBucker-2 they say... not to be confused with Burst Bucker 2's so I got that wrong before. I'm not entirely convinced the pickups are actually made by Gibson... but they may be made to Gibson specifications...
Unless your a professional musician, the Epiphany Standard pro plus really are fantastic guitars for the money and maybe the closest you can get to a nice Gibson Les Paul and if you choose to change out pickups for higher end ones you can't go wrong whether recording or just playing with backing tracks and yes even gigging with....
There's no doubt that the Epiphone as shown here is a very good guitar. These Epiphones are one reason why guys should not waste their money on Chinese cheapo guitars that have not too good quality - the Epiphone is Epic! (Can I say that :) .
Even if you use the Epi as it comes its a great sounding guitar. Thanks.
there grover 14.1 tuners on the epi.they are genuine tuners
I'm sure they are genuine Rich...but I have a sneaky feeling that they make a number of different quality ones for OEM clients like Epiphone... I've never seen it documented, but if you do a direct comparison with a top end LP then they do seem slightly better made on the Gibson... it could be just me, but makers do that sort of stuff from time to time. Thanks for watching too...
my epi logo is sunk in too
But a great guitar for that price!
No doubt that the Gibson Page model is better. Nevertheless, being that most people don’t gig and would have to either save up a few checks or enslave them selves to debt and interest rates... and this is just my opinion, I would have to say that the epiphone is more than good enough. I own a 2 Gibson Les Pauls, 2010 Deluxe and a 59 junior Reissue. My dream guitar is a Gibson es 335 but I’m not going to spend 3k plus on a guitar at the moment, especially Since I’m still ok grad school, so I’m going to get an epiphone Es until I can afford to buy a Gibson without going into debt. Cool review
Nothing wrong with the Epiphone and I thought it was a pretty good guitar - indeed, last week I bought one for knocking around in the studio. Yes you're right, NEVER get burdened with debt - its better to save and wait for your career to finance what you want. I have been there and I distinctly remember when I was 19 taking a car back to a dealer and handing him the keys saying 'please take this, pay it off and keep it'. He did. I never forgot that lesson and I would never go back to it or recommend to do that. Trust me, you'll end up with what you want in other ways. Thanks for watching.
Sorry, but that‘s a poor demo imho. You just used the bridge pu and only high gain amp settings. What about all the switching options of the JP? No use of the tone and vol pots....
That's a reasonable point... but I was comparing the guitar to the Epiphone that does not have the switching so that might have been a bit pointless for this review. In any case I could tell the difference between the two which was one of the primary points.... thanks for the input and for watching.
Bone nut on epiphone and it would make a huge diffrence.
Well that's a possibility for sure, but I found the two very interesting in any case. The Epi was very good for the price they wanted at the time. Thanks for watching.
Gibsons are pricey. With one of these Epiphones, a good set of Bare Knuckle or Duncan pickups, maybe some Bourns pots, and a good low watt tube amp like a Victory BD-1, I imagine the average bedroom/bar player would be extremely happy. The only thing about the JPLP, when it first came out I couldn't imagine why Gibson would put a ceramic pickup in it. Whatever works, I guess.
I did that on a Tokai guitar... a Japanese one and the result is really good. There's nothing wrong with doing that of course but even after the mods there is still a difference when I play the JP or the Tokai... and doing it to an Epiphone would save money over the Tokai but the Tokai has almost exacting same sized components whereas Epi does not. Gibson is expensive of course, but I paid a great price for the JP at the time and to be honest it plays better than any other LP I have. The JP pickups I found to be very good sounding though... and better than the BNP's I have in the Tokai... but it's all subjective and what I like others might not. Ha they work with any good tube amp for sure. Thanks for watching.
Sure thing, Tony!
Great video, I've seen people prefer the Epi to the Gibson in blind tests and saw the Epi win a sustain comparison with about 5 top range guitars. Nice playing as usual Tommy, love the Lizzy-esque bit ! welcome back!
Hi, well interestingly in this video I used the TSL100, the HX effects for effects, a regular cry baby and a AKG mic in to the desk. Both guitars were set up very similarly, but you will notice (at least I did) that the JPLP had more 'flow' in the playing (disregarding bum notes of course) and it did sustain very noticeably longer than the Epiphone. The tones were different as well. But for me that JPLP neck and likely the pickups are why I think that a pro guitarist might well choose the Gibson guitar. For everyday everything else the Epiphone fared very well for that price. Thanks for watching.
tonymckenziecom well, I should have mentioned the sustain test I referenced was unamplified, but I think both guitars sounded great...a testament to your playing no doubt :)
It could be down to pickups maybe, but I'm not going to disassemble Jamies guitar :)...
tonymckenziecom I won't tell If you don't! :)
Careful... he might read this and his Hells Angel friends... well, they might not understand :)
THERE IS ONE MAJOR DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ALL EPI AND GIBSON. I do not understand why they have done a very strange thing for Epiphone.
Its bridge is about 0.5cm farther from the bridge pickup than in Gibson. Why this is not nobody else noticed.
I think it's deliberately made to make it sound a bit crap. Otherwise everyone would buy Epiphone. All other dimensions are the same.
Very interesting and I certainly was not aware of that. I'm sure many others were not either. Thanks for posting this and I'm sure that will have an effect on the tones. But in this test I thought the Epiphone was a pretty decent guitar especially for that money. Thanks again...
the Gibson Les Paul was is best. and since 2019 there perfect again. and high gain sounds awesome. Epiphone are cheap china crap but the Epiphone is best out of the crap.. A Real Gibson Les Paul is hard to beat...
Indeed I have a few of them. The bottom end guitars That's what Epiphone really are) are not that bad for the money and as you see with this one it gets the job done. Gibson did go through the bad times for sure and I think also they are past that - although I never saw the bad stuff personally. Check my playlist out of the guitars I have reviewed and you'll love them! Thanks for watching.
Thank you Tony! Epiphone make fine guitars. I have two of 'em and have sold others. But nowt beats a Gibson. And yes, let's hope we do dump the EU.
The Epiphone here was pretty good to be honest and stood up very well. I can't really example the feel of the Gibson and that's where it was markedly different. Notice the sustain was longer too on the Gibson. Amp, settings, leads and everything else was exactly the same for both guitars. But I did like how the Epiphone was especially for the low cost. Thanks for watching.
Yep. Once again made that clear for myself that tons of expensive and super cool gear doesn't necessarily make you a great musician and a Rock Star Guitar God. Well I'm pretty sure if Jeff Beck pick's up a super cheap chinese crap made of plastic it'll be sound amazing. And if you'll give a $350 000 1959 Les Paul to a kid, who started to play 'bout a week ago - it will sound like a piece of dog poopoo
Well, the way I look at things these days is that you don't have to be a rock god… those days are long gone. What really matters in life is that whoever plays the guitar that they want (having worked hard to get the money to buy it) and loves to do that with their time is exactly why they can have any guitar/amp or anything else that they want. Remember this, not everyone wants to be a 'rock god'.
So from my years on earth so far, that is the sum of what I have learned. Enjoy the gear and making music whether its a cheap piece of cr*p or a $350,000 1959 Les Paul you are using - as long as you like it then that's the gear for you.
Getting tangled up in theories about gear actually is pretty irrelevant in the overall scene of things. Thanks.
+tonymckenziecom Thanks for your advice, Mr McKenzie. Definitely gonna keep it with me.
I'm just focusing on success in music as form of business too much sometimes, that I'm starting to losing focus in music as form of art and that it supposed to provide joy and happiness into the world and musicians that play.
P.S. I ordered an Epi, just like you had in this video.
:) Yes when we think of all this stuff, it can be easy to get distracted with gear and the music business etc. but it is undoubtedly best to play the guitar firstly because we want to :) The Epiphone actually was a friends... and I gave it back to him, but I have to say that I too bought one from my own review :) Ha now that's different! Thanks...
I want to try a Chibson.
Best of luck with that one... hopefully it might play. Or not! Thanks for watching.
You're welcome
Great review! I have the epiphone standard plain top not the pro,,,,, Gibson sounds better, epi not bad for money though 😎
Well they had EXACTLY the same settings throughout. I thought the Gibson sounded different too. The 'feel' of each guitar also played a big part IMO. Thanks for your info and for watching.
You leave nothing out!
Indeed I try to do that but here and there sometimes I miss stuff. In any case thank you for watching.
THERE made better now then 6years ago it is 2024 now check them now and see if they are made better now Do a nother view now😅
They might be made better these days I agree. But this one at the time was a very good guitar especially for that lower price then than it is now! :) Thanks
Chuffin eck Tony ! are you tone deaf .
Is my ear wax at it again :) Thanks for watching.
you need vitamin C and fenugreek :) it s help .
No I'm OK now... but it was a bad thing to get past... Thanks for the medication Doc... and for watching. :)
great :)
Both sound terrible. You are using far toooooo much distortion. How are we supposed to judge the difference in tone with all that noise!
Strangely you are in the minority re the tones being 'terrible'. I played both with the same settings exactly and while that does not quite allow me to change tones it does show the differences in the tones which was what mattered. But the video does NOT show the overall feel when playing the two wand there is no doubt that the Gibson felt better and was more inspiring. Thanks for watching.
Real les pauls are epiphone. Les Paul made the first les paul in the epiphone factory out of epiphone parts.
That's a great point. I really don't know what Les did at the time, but interesting point and thanks for watching.
Quit sniffing the Gibson cool aid.
Subjective.
both sound the same,
They are different in the room, and the 'feel' of each is different. Take a close look and you will notice that when I play the JPLP that my playing is actually better... that relates to inspiration from the feel of that guitar. The Epiphone is a great guitar, but there is a difference. Thanks for watching.
@@tonymckenziecom i know what you mean, i have an american standard strat and an american deluxe strat and while there is not much difference in the sound, the deluxe feels nicer to play. i think im going to get an epiphone though because i want a les paul and cant justify the price of a gibson. its the sound thats most important to me as it will be used for recording and i think the epiphones hold up really well
Uhhh, your bendings are all completely off. You should take some refreshing lessons on it!
That matters not at all. I did not make this video for my playing? This is a review of the Epiphone guitar. Thanks.
nice video
Thanks... pretty good guitar I thought. Thanks for watching.
yeah, I just bought this guitar earlier today and I love it.
Ah good to know. Tell me what you like the best about it and were there any problems?
I love the cherry sunburst colour on mine, and the overall look of the guitar. and I haven't run into any problems yet.