We need more trails like Derailed in the Ham. Great fun for the whole family! Minimal climb and roller coasters for ever. Thanks for all the youtube entertainment!
Awesome to see you hitting the PG Trails. The development of the ride park and the Ranger corridor has added a lot to the “fun factor” of the riding experience in PG. Derailed is a classic and still my favorite trail in the park.
Went to Port Gamble for my first time with a couple buddies last year. Cool Runnings made me giggle so much. The pro line jumps were mind boggling to walk by. So many good, short, punchy trails! It’s a gem of a trail system!
Great Video! Grateful for Evergreen and our amazing trail builders! RIP Titan and Derailed :( Hopefully more and more people get stoked, leading to more trails and protecting our existing MTB trails.
Fun to see Port Gamble trails getting featured. The area has seen so much activity in recent years and deserves more visits--and support! I'm local and ride there basically every weekend year round. It's true those trails drain incredibly well, and because of the low elevation they rarely freeze. Tons of people use the area all winter, with basically zero ill effects. It's a good option when other areas in the region are snowy or muddy. Sad about Derailled. (Yes, it's still open for now and well-worth the side trip. You can even make a short drive from the park area and start right at the bottom of it, or get there via the Mirkwood trail, which is pretty fun too.) Derailled is one of the most fun trails at Port Gamble, and it links up through a great network of XC trails for people who like to pedal. There's lots of change happening, including some classic trails disappearing, but the new building is really fantastic, and hopefully with increased attention for the area, we'll see more of it. Thanks for featuring our local spot! With the rain today after so much dry weather, everything will be running great for the bike festival tomorrow.
PG is legit and I would like to thank the Evergreen Mountain Bike Alliance for putting on the festive this weekend. Pro line was open and it was running fast, smooth, and 100% sendy. The builders out at PG deserve a ton of credit. Hats off to some amazing trails ond of course their jump lines. Good overview video of PG. Well done. Thumbs up.
Flow trails all the way!! We are not all X-games jumpers.. Flow is roots mtn biking 'Ala Marin County early 80's! Stottlemeyer/Pt Gamble has MILES of flow!!! It's also awesome that they have dedicated bike trails now, especially downhills - there are tons of trail runners out there, and it got a bit dicey when running trails with bikes ripping through. I do both (trail running &biking) so I'm stoked about the safety & separation. You can let it rip with both sports out there with better safety & no bad vibes. It is TOTAL PARADISE out there!
did my first xc race at Port Gamble earlier this year. a 30 mi, 2-lap marathon race that kicked my butt. Port Gamble are some of my favorite trails in the state, but they're most fun on a rigid bike or hardtail imo!
Call me crazy, I’ve never been super into Mullet- just a little too flat without many good turns or tech challenges. Owl Pacino and Cool Runnings get to use a little steeper hill side, and have some amazing turns, i admit I prefer those over Mullet. That said, I’d rather ride Galbraith, as we get at least double the elevation and have more tech trails, but it’s cool to see the transformation that the crew did at PG! Head for the trails, stay for the jumps. Sorry for the long and honest reply 😂 Galbraith only has ~5 trails, but it’s 5 really fun trails 🤘😂
Backstory: so Derailed is on a corner of the park that was not purchased by the county, so that's pure Rayonier land sadly. On the other hand, the fact that it wasn't county land meant that the rebuild a few years back was able to happen pretty easily as Rayonier was pretty cool with it (while the county was very touchy about any construction at the time), and Derailed became the proof of concept for Evergreen (Matt Blossom, Kevin Wise, Charlie Sponsel etc) leading design and construction on trails in PG. It's been overshadowed by the ranger trails and ride park, plus it's practically by itself on the other side of the park, but it's a pretty fun run and I'm sad to hear it will be cut soon.
Thanks for the back story! I was hoping to interview Robot Charlie and others for this, but wasn’t able to get any funding for the video, and had to limit my time. A fourth trip would have added a lot- maybe one day!
@@herosquadlivemusic4815 I wasn't aware of Rayonier, or how much of the Washington forrest they own. Thanks for the details, opened up an interesting thread for me to go pull on
The trails look like a ton of fun. Mostly seem to be on the heavily machine built, smooth and flowy side. Personally I like to see technical trails incorporating existing land forms and minimal digging outnumbering the smooth machined ones but they clearly had a bike park like vision here. Looking forward to taking my Sentinel here sometime. I wonder what maintenance costs and logistics are gonna look like down the line vs more natural trails?
Has the logging already started or would that trail still be intact this weekend? Blows my mind that these parks are still being logged, seems like such a waste
Yeah we are not allowed to complain about logging… DNR is our main state land manager, stands for “department of natural resources,” which means they are primarily concerned about logging, not recreation. This park AFAIK is not on DNR land, but the culture is certainly to continue with lots of timber harvests. The extraction economy brings in some revenue, but I do find it silly that recreation is not taken more seriously as an economic driver. The biggest problem with timber is that it’s so cheap. Hence I live in a timber house.
@@JeffKendallWeed Good points about DNRs focus and the hesitancy to look at certain types of recreation as an income source. Similar situation here in New England. Generally state orgs are cowardly when it comes to potential liability and trying new things. One thing worth mentioning about harvesting around trails, this exposes the trail surface to more direct precipitation and erosion as well as makes it hot as hell in the summer with no canopy.
@@JeffKendallWeed Thanks for replying Jeff, I appreciate the perspective. I'm new to the PNW from Colorado (moved at the end of last year) - logging like this would have caused an uproar back in Boulder. I'm personally not sure how to balance my "ideal" of no logging and the devastation of massive wildfires, but the prevalence of logging up here has shocked me. Hopefully we can slowly show the DNR how economically valuable recreation could be.
@@applicablerobot DNR is well aware of recreation #'s due to phone tracking. We are a small piece of the puzzle and though harvest doesn't make the ground pretty...100% of the timber is not exported (different story with private land)....it creates lots of jobs in this area.
Are they flow or traditional mountain bike trails? I don't know how to classify but I will say this, they are trails every single person watching this video wish were local to them!
Why would I wear all black when filming in the dark forest on a north facing slope at sundown? 😂 folks never understand the kit choices, but there is a reason for the colors!
He must have meant the machine work portion at the bottom, the rest took much longer than a week. (I don't mean to minimize his contribution, which was massive, just that there was some slower handwork that happened too)
As a local, it’s also worth noting that the “new” Owl Pacino trail for the most part follows a rider-built trail that had been there for years. many of the exact same jumps, many of the same corners. The trail was largely already there. It was shut down because it was deemed “too dangerous” and then essentially rebuilt. Evergreen does some amazing work, and their work in PG has been especially great. But it would have been nice to show the previous builders some respect and to keep the original name rather than pretending it was built from scratch.
I am truly saddened that 'bike parks' are pushing out 'classic cc singletrack'. Not every 50' of trail needs a gap jump. This really is the wrong direction for mountain biking. 99% of people can ride classic cc singletrack. Very few people can do gap jumps. I especially hate to see actual 'in nature' areas converted into a bike park. Thing about bike parks, they can be in urban settings and be wonderful. But once you start cutting down the forest, you ruin the nature experience for everyone else. - In this video, the first bit of video looked wonderful. Long twisty singletrack out in nature. But the, when it switched to the 'improvements', it looked like a bulldozer had driven through the woods. Truly sad. - Sigh, and it appears Evergreen had gone evil. Catering to the adrenaline junkie crowd, to the exclusion of all other trail riders. (They fk'd over Mt. Spokane in a similar way, when they supported the ski slope expansion. For the 'promise' of a couple of future trails, they promoted the ski hill chopping down 200 year old trees on the top of the mountain. Eliminating the only 'natural' area left on the mountain top)....
We need more trails like Derailed in the Ham. Great fun for the whole family! Minimal climb and roller coasters for ever.
Thanks for all the youtube entertainment!
This place is a gem ,well done .
“Feel the rhythm! Feel the rhyme! Get on up, it’s bobsled time! Cool runnings!”
Feel the rythem from within
Feel it under your skin
Headhunterz
Yes!!!!!
I work 20 mins away from here. I love this place! Trail 4 is sooo much fun to rip!
i love port gamble! thats my go to spot besides my local trails on vashon island
Awesome to see you hitting the PG Trails. The development of the ride park and the Ranger corridor has added a lot to the “fun factor” of the riding experience in PG. Derailed is a classic and still my favorite trail in the park.
Went to Port Gamble for my first time with a couple buddies last year. Cool Runnings made me giggle so much. The pro line jumps were mind boggling to walk by. So many good, short, punchy trails! It’s a gem of a trail system!
Cool runnings is awesome! Glad you had a great visit!
love to see more acceptance of mountain bikes and trail networks!
Thanks Enzo, me too.
You should definitely come back out for another update. These trails just keep getting better
Great Video! Grateful for Evergreen and our amazing trail builders! RIP Titan and Derailed :( Hopefully more and more people get stoked, leading to more trails and protecting our existing MTB trails.
Derailed is still a trail
@@jayvee962 true as of 2 days ago. RIP titan tho
Fun to see Port Gamble trails getting featured. The area has seen so much activity in recent years and deserves more visits--and support!
I'm local and ride there basically every weekend year round. It's true those trails drain incredibly well, and because of the low elevation they rarely freeze. Tons of people use the area all winter, with basically zero ill effects. It's a good option when other areas in the region are snowy or muddy.
Sad about Derailled. (Yes, it's still open for now and well-worth the side trip. You can even make a short drive from the park area and start right at the bottom of it, or get there via the Mirkwood trail, which is pretty fun too.) Derailled is one of the most fun trails at Port Gamble, and it links up through a great network of XC trails for people who like to pedal. There's lots of change happening, including some classic trails disappearing, but the new building is really fantastic, and hopefully with increased attention for the area, we'll see more of it.
Thanks for featuring our local spot! With the rain today after so much dry weather, everything will be running great for the bike festival tomorrow.
Thanks for the info Ryan!
PG is legit and I would like to thank the Evergreen Mountain Bike Alliance for putting on the festive this weekend. Pro line was open and it was running fast, smooth, and 100% sendy. The builders out at PG deserve a ton of credit. Hats off to some amazing trails ond of course their jump lines. Good overview video of PG. Well done. Thumbs up.
Flow trails all the way!! We are not all X-games jumpers.. Flow is roots mtn biking 'Ala Marin County early 80's! Stottlemeyer/Pt Gamble has MILES of flow!!! It's also awesome that they have dedicated bike trails now, especially downhills - there are tons of trail runners out there, and it got a bit dicey when running trails with bikes ripping through. I do both (trail running &biking) so I'm stoked about the safety & separation. You can let it rip with both sports out there with better safety & no bad vibes. It is TOTAL PARADISE out there!
Damn this place looks nuts!!! Gonna have to ad this to list!!!
It’s worth stopping by, some cool trails in there!
did my first xc race at Port Gamble earlier this year. a 30 mi, 2-lap marathon race that kicked my butt. Port Gamble are some of my favorite trails in the state, but they're most fun on a rigid bike or hardtail imo!
Great video and fun riding together Jeff! Love me some PG.
Port Gamble is such a hidden gem.
Great to see you feature the Port Gamble trails!
Thanks Dave!
Stoked to check out Port Gamble for the very first time, tomorrow at the Evergreen Fest! Seems like it's been a great project.
Have fun! Wish I was gonna be out there on my hardtail with ya!
@@JeffKendallWeed Gonna make it out sans hardtail, or gonna miss this one?
Not driving the 6 hrs… maybe once some fall rains hit!
Love to see a backflip and a helicoper followed by a nose wheely 😅
I spend a lot of time northwest so I 'm hoping I can get some rides in when I can trust my skills being new to all this.
Hilarious timing here Jeff, I was just thinking about driving down this weekend for the mtb festival and these trails
Yeah there is some sort of event happening at this place over the weekend.
Those trails are beautiful! They're Mullet-esque. Perhaps they can come up here and dive into a collab trail.
Call me crazy, I’ve never been super into Mullet- just a little too flat without many good turns or tech challenges. Owl Pacino and Cool Runnings get to use a little steeper hill side, and have some amazing turns, i admit I prefer those over Mullet. That said, I’d rather ride Galbraith, as we get at least double the elevation and have more tech trails, but it’s cool to see the transformation that the crew did at PG! Head for the trails, stay for the jumps. Sorry for the long and honest reply 😂 Galbraith only has ~5 trails, but it’s 5 really fun trails 🤘😂
There was a big fundraiser to purchase the timber rights last year for Port Gamble so I'm surprised that Derailed is still scheduled to get logged.
It really bugs me. Finally made it over to what seemed like recently logged sections of Galbraith and it just felt wrong
I had no idea… frustrating, but we’re not really allowed to complain about logging around here, so 🤷♂️ 😂
Backstory: so Derailed is on a corner of the park that was not purchased by the county, so that's pure Rayonier land sadly. On the other hand, the fact that it wasn't county land meant that the rebuild a few years back was able to happen pretty easily as Rayonier was pretty cool with it (while the county was very touchy about any construction at the time), and Derailed became the proof of concept for Evergreen (Matt Blossom, Kevin Wise, Charlie Sponsel etc) leading design and construction on trails in PG. It's been overshadowed by the ranger trails and ride park, plus it's practically by itself on the other side of the park, but it's a pretty fun run and I'm sad to hear it will be cut soon.
Thanks for the back story! I was hoping to interview Robot Charlie and others for this, but wasn’t able to get any funding for the video, and had to limit my time. A fourth trip would have added a lot- maybe one day!
@@herosquadlivemusic4815 I wasn't aware of Rayonier, or how much of the Washington forrest they own. Thanks for the details, opened up an interesting thread for me to go pull on
The trails look like a ton of fun. Mostly seem to be on the heavily machine built, smooth and flowy side. Personally I like to see technical trails incorporating existing land forms and minimal digging outnumbering the smooth machined ones but they clearly had a bike park like vision here. Looking forward to taking my Sentinel here sometime. I wonder what maintenance costs and logistics are gonna look like down the line vs more natural trails?
Evergreen has a long term agreement to maintain these trails. I also prefer more natural, raw trails, usually found farther from population centers.
I’m going to Galbraith soon, any suggestions?
greeted by small hill of 400ft of elevation... bruh. Cries in Nebraskan where our largest elevation trail is 150ft
Great video
Sure would be nice to see you on a hardtail and what you can do on it
Thanks Danny- just rebuilt my old Chromag the other day- stay tuned!
Blessed to have in my back yard😅
Totally!
Has the logging already started or would that trail still be intact this weekend?
Blows my mind that these parks are still being logged, seems like such a waste
Yeah we are not allowed to complain about logging… DNR is our main state land manager, stands for “department of natural resources,” which means they are primarily concerned about logging, not recreation. This park AFAIK is not on DNR land, but the culture is certainly to continue with lots of timber harvests. The extraction economy brings in some revenue, but I do find it silly that recreation is not taken more seriously as an economic driver. The biggest problem with timber is that it’s so cheap. Hence I live in a timber house.
@@JeffKendallWeed Good points about DNRs focus and the hesitancy to look at certain types of recreation as an income source. Similar situation here in New England. Generally state orgs are cowardly when it comes to potential liability and trying new things. One thing worth mentioning about harvesting around trails, this exposes the trail surface to more direct precipitation and erosion as well as makes it hot as hell in the summer with no canopy.
@@JeffKendallWeed Thanks for replying Jeff, I appreciate the perspective. I'm new to the PNW from Colorado (moved at the end of last year) - logging like this would have caused an uproar back in Boulder.
I'm personally not sure how to balance my "ideal" of no logging and the devastation of massive wildfires, but the prevalence of logging up here has shocked me.
Hopefully we can slowly show the DNR how economically valuable recreation could be.
@@applicablerobot DNR is well aware of recreation #'s due to phone tracking. We are a small piece of the puzzle and though harvest doesn't make the ground pretty...100% of the timber is not exported (different story with private land)....it creates lots of jobs in this area.
Wait what? Derailed is my all time favorite trail when is it getting altered???
Was supposed to get clear cut in summer 2023...
Your xc ride looks different than my xc ride
Those trails are awesome but difficult to get to . That will become a major travel destination for mountain bikers .
Well, difficult to get to for us in Bellingham, but not too far at all from Seattle, Tacoma, or Olympia.
Are they flow or traditional mountain bike trails? I don't know how to classify but I will say this, they are trails every single person watching this video wish were local to them!
Good point!
Why was Howdy Neighbor renamed?
Dude your clothing range is impressive 😮😂
Why would I wear all black when filming in the dark forest on a north facing slope at sundown? 😂 folks never understand the kit choices, but there is a reason for the colors!
@@JeffKendallWeedunderstood 🤜🤛
Hi
super vid!
JKW x 50to01 crew.
collaboration ride
That would be amazing! Those dudes are seriously LEGIT!
You're filmer needs to adjust their gimbal and remove those micro jitters
Wait wait wait, did that guy say that it only took a week to build Al Pacino??? Either it’s really short or they had a literal army building it?!
Yeah the trail is pretty quick, only .3 of a mile.
He must have meant the machine work portion at the bottom, the rest took much longer than a week. (I don't mean to minimize his contribution, which was massive, just that there was some slower handwork that happened too)
As a local, it’s also worth noting that the “new” Owl Pacino trail for the most part follows a rider-built trail that had been there for years. many of the exact same jumps, many of the same corners. The trail was largely already there.
It was shut down because it was deemed “too dangerous” and then essentially rebuilt. Evergreen does some amazing work, and their work in PG has been especially great. But it would have been nice to show the previous builders some respect and to keep the original name rather than pretending it was built from scratch.
@@spencernicholas6273 ah that makes more sense
1st!
I am truly saddened that 'bike parks' are pushing out 'classic cc singletrack'. Not every 50' of trail needs a gap jump. This really is the wrong direction for mountain biking. 99% of people can ride classic cc singletrack. Very few people can do gap jumps. I especially hate to see actual 'in nature' areas converted into a bike park. Thing about bike parks, they can be in urban settings and be wonderful. But once you start cutting down the forest, you ruin the nature experience for everyone else.
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In this video, the first bit of video looked wonderful. Long twisty singletrack out in nature. But the, when it switched to the 'improvements', it looked like a bulldozer had driven through the woods. Truly sad.
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Sigh, and it appears Evergreen had gone evil. Catering to the adrenaline junkie crowd, to the exclusion of all other trail riders. (They fk'd over Mt. Spokane in a similar way, when they supported the ski slope expansion. For the 'promise' of a couple of future trails, they promoted the ski hill chopping down 200 year old trees on the top of the mountain. Eliminating the only 'natural' area left on the mountain top)....
New phone who dis?