The bottom of your roll crimp need to have a round radius roll meaning a rounded dip like the half of a donut dipped out ring! This will make you plastic shell roll inward and roll up very smooth to your center pin! I you have access to a mini lathe you can can cut the rolled radius in the outer bottom edge very easily into a piece of aluminum round stock after drilling! And incert your center pin. It will work perfectly with the roll dip cut in the bottom making the tip of your shell roll inward perfectly! I have made them for 12 ga. 20 ga. 28ga. 16 ga. And .410 ga. And for 45 long Colt for snake loads and roll the edge just enough to hold shot cards. I have found some bearing races that have that perfect round out dip the size needed. And by removing the bearings and using the race incerted in to a turned peice of aluminum it works great!.
My dad bought 3or4 boxes of 410 shells at a garage sale and I think he only paid.75 cents each. The lady was glad to sell them. They were new. Not reloads.
Yes, they have made paper 410 hulls. Yes, they have used roll crimping before and currently. Reserved for slugs mostly, nowadays, but still a valid crimp. You have a flat bottom to your crimper. Effective roll crimpers have a bar that contacts the rim before anything else. It's this bar that initiates the rolling. And just a whisker of lubrication makes them work better (a tiny drop of vaseline is enough for a number of shells). Exposing your retaining pin to the very base of the cavity should work well.
They did make paper 410 I've still got a few. If you want a better crimp you need to make the shell fold into the center. In yours that could be done by angling the pin. Also add just a drop of oil.
Yes they made paper 410. My mother in law collects old shotgun shells. I came across almost a whole box at a yard sale. I bought them and give them to her.
Try GAEP Italian quality crimping tool, they are made of high quality steel they cost $50 and it will last you a lifetime if no more making better crimps than factory loads. If you need details contact me I'll help you to get one. 👍
@@backwoodstech1972 yeah I know that you guys are having a hard time finding anything gun related right now. I'm up in Canada and we are starting to get a bit of shortage to. I'll have some 410 crimping tools available soon. 👍
@@backwoodstech1972 I recommend using MEK 600 (410).To equip cartridges in a plastic sleeve. I have such a press. th-cam.com/video/NL1DveqhNfM/w-d-xo.html Write to him, he bought goods from Russia for shooting
Just watched your new vid. Good job! I just loce these appropriate tech things, making tools that work, but are no more complicated or expensive than necessary. Im going to try making one of these. I may try making it out of a harder, finer grain wood to see how that works. Still hoping to come up with a simple way to form and load shells for my old .43 egvptian rolling block I have a suggestion for another project for you to go with this latest one. How about a simple, cheap .410 slug and slug mold? Or something about round ball/buckshot loads for .410? Keep up the great work! Will be watching for more... Karen
No rush. I am going to see if I can figure anything out when I have some time, sort of based on your .410 loader, but I could use any help I can get. Thanks for the reply, and keep up the great work Karen
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The bottom of your roll crimp need to have a round radius roll meaning a rounded dip like the half of a donut dipped out ring! This will make you plastic shell roll inward and roll up very smooth to your center pin! I you have access to a mini lathe you can can cut the rolled radius in the outer bottom edge very easily into a piece of aluminum round stock after drilling! And incert your center pin. It will work perfectly with the roll dip cut in the bottom making the tip of your shell roll inward perfectly! I have made them for 12 ga. 20 ga. 28ga. 16 ga. And .410 ga. And for 45 long Colt for snake loads and roll the edge just enough to hold shot cards. I have found some bearing races that have that perfect round out dip the size needed. And by removing the bearings and using the race incerted in to a turned peice of aluminum it works great!.
My dad bought 3or4 boxes of 410 shells at a garage sale and I think he only paid.75 cents each. The lady was glad to sell them. They were new. Not reloads.
Yes, they have made paper 410 hulls. Yes, they have used roll crimping before and currently. Reserved for slugs mostly, nowadays, but still a valid crimp.
You have a flat bottom to your crimper. Effective roll crimpers have a bar that contacts the rim before anything else. It's this bar that initiates the rolling. And just a whisker of lubrication makes them work better (a tiny drop of vaseline is enough for a number of shells). Exposing your retaining pin to the very base of the cavity should work well.
Thank you that’s good info
They did make paper 410 I've still got a few. If you want a better crimp you need to make the shell fold into the center. In yours that could be done by angling the pin. Also add just a drop of oil.
Thank you
Nice Diy Video!
Hey Backwoods tech you could put a metal washer down inside the crimper rather than epoxy.
I believe .410 shells are 1/2" witdth
Yes they made paper 410. My mother in law collects old shotgun shells. I came across almost a whole box at a yard sale. I bought them and give them to her.
That’s good to hear and a great find
Way to go, I admire self suffcientcy.
Thank you
Great job. What you could improve is angling The inside of The crimper cavity and bevel The center pin.
That’s a good idea Thank you
Yes they did make paper rolled crimped cartridges in the day as some would say
Epoxy is a good idea. Maybe a touch of bees wax to lube it would work better.
Thank you sir !
Yes they use to have paper .410 paper cartridges.
Two things improve the appearance of roll crimping warm not melted and straight cut non-skived case mouth. Slower rpm.
Skiving thins the mouth of the shell to take a folded crimp.
Thank you
That’s a good tip
I have done so much with so little for so long, there's nothing I can't do ! FREE
What gun was that?
One is a rexio super Comanche the other is New England arms single shot
Try GAEP Italian quality crimping tool, they are made of high quality steel they cost $50 and it will last you a lifetime if no more making better crimps than factory loads. If you need details contact me I'll help you to get one. 👍
I have heard good things about them You can’t find anything 410ga related here in the states right now
@@backwoodstech1972 yeah I know that you guys are having a hard time finding anything gun related right now. I'm up in Canada and we are starting to get a bit of shortage to.
I'll have some 410 crimping tools available soon. 👍
There are no problems in this case in Russia.You can buy various devices and parts for the 410 caliber Привет из России )))
You all are lucky everything reloading related is scarce here unless you were prepared for it
@@backwoodstech1972 You can buy many components online. Can I send information to the stores for the equipment of 410 cartridges and other calibers?
@@horn410 yes
@@backwoodstech1972 I recommend using MEK 600 (410).To equip cartridges in a plastic sleeve. I have such a press. th-cam.com/video/NL1DveqhNfM/w-d-xo.html Write to him, he bought goods from Russia for shooting
@@backwoodstech1972 Sanctions against Russia.Many military sales channels are closed(((
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Just watched your new vid. Good job! I just loce these appropriate tech things, making tools that work, but are no more complicated or expensive than necessary. Im going to try making one of these. I may try making it out of a harder, finer grain wood to see how that works.
Still hoping to come up with a simple way to form and load shells for my old .43 egvptian rolling block
I have a suggestion for another project for you to go with this latest one. How about a simple, cheap .410 slug and slug mold? Or something about round ball/buckshot loads for .410?
Keep up the great work! Will be watching for more...
Karen
Yep a harder wood would would have much better appearances I am having some difficulty finding the parts I need for the Egyptian
Thank you A hardwood will have a better appearance. I am having some difficulty find what I need for the Egyptian
I like that idea then it would be a complete reloading kit
No rush. I am going to see if I can figure anything out when I have some time, sort of based on your .410 loader, but I could use any help I can get. Thanks for the reply, and keep up the great work
Karen
Just go buy one
its fun to make one
Help
Son, you need a remote mic 🎤
Tell me about it
I'm interested in a remote mic too. Got any recommendations?
@@floridagunrat1625 I just bought a cheap mic on amazon that seems to work but the name is in Chinese
It’s just cheaper to buy one !
Around here you can’t find them to buy
@@backwoodstech1972 you can find most anything online .
Hill-billy techniques get hill-billy results…. SMH.