That was a real test on those mangled hulls! You were harder on them than me. I plan for the ones in the store to have a black oxide finish by the way. Excellent video!
Great stuff but been trying to order off the Reloaders Network but no one is answering. There doesn't seem to be a drop down for Canada and no reply on the second or third inquiry?? What gives. For starter I tried getting the Wad Seating Tool Combo for Svarog “Special” Wads Anywhere else I could get some Nick Ross goodies?? Thanks!
Nick really does a nice custom job for the same amount of money that BPI wants for their inferior product. everything Nick has made is excellent quality, he makes things with that first time quality attitude. Good honest review Cookie.-Dave
Interesting and thanks for uploading. A US friend of mine calls this tribal knowledge, it's not written down. My 410 roll crimp (home made) has never been very good, so I just made another, two pins but actually just one all the way through. I snapped off my narrow grooving tool and used another. Thought it would be junk but gave a thicker crimp which I''m very pleased with especially for tube magazines. I don't reload, I have a very fussy gun (9410) that likes 2.5" cartridges (63.5mm). Many Eu cartridges come out up to 67mm even if advertised as " true 2 ½ inch case" so a quick re roll often sorts that out. Great video, very informative.
I have started roll crimping for my 410 due to the store expense for that size shot shell. I am loading with shot though. I like the looks of that roll on that Nick Ross. I will consider buying.
This is awesome, I have the plastic one from BP and has done great, I know it won't last long so I will invest in this when I order my slug mold from TRN
It seems to me that if you reload for an autoloader, you want not only a rounded rolled edge, but also a slight taper to ensure no-snags feeding. Do these produce different top diameters?
Fortunecookie45LC, I love your videos and your positive attitude. Straight forward, direct, and great subject matter. Please keep up the awesome videos on all sorts of different reloading videos from reloading shotgun slugs to 45's to AR etc. I am curious as to what was your background and places/jobs you've worked. As a compliment, you are very well-spoken and explain everything is easy-to-understand terms for us newer reloaders. Thank you, again!
Why didn’t you trim your hulls down to match the slug wad and charge. And just put a little grease on the end of the hull. I use a little bowl with a pad with 3 and one oil on it and just dip the end into the pad and you’ll never have to keep putting vasiline inside the crimper and have to clean it often.
Man got to love that (blue dirt) lol I used to load 32gr of it under a rp12 wad with 13/8oz of 5s or 6s depending on temp and distance as a long long distance trap load for the 50-80 yard money shoots threw a bt99 or bt100 32 in ported barrel
I have one coming from Russia! The wait time is kinda bad, ordered 2 weeks ago and they say it may get here between Thanksgiving and Christmas, haha. But, it'll be worth the wait.
Nice video but I guess everything old is new. I'm actually still using the bgi mechanical hand crank roll crimper 4 pin patent date 1891 they work good paper and plastic hulls takes a little effort but works good and it actually has a square roll crimp and the round roll and a lot less noise lol. And probably a whopping $16 invested.
Yes. That is why you neck turn and unify the once fired rifle brass. You can even check brand new bulk brass to make sure it is as good as it can be before you load it.
I was hoping for an explanation of what the pins did and why four were better than one. I have made my own as per a very good and very short (speeded up during the boring bits, take note!) video on here with no pins at all and it works just fine. I made the cutter as per the video from an old round file, cost? Very little!
FortuneCookie45LC, is there a way to buy these as a set instead of individual? bought the 12 ga on reloaders network, but need the 20, and .410. Please advise.
Can you reload these after firing without having to cut them down? I was under the impression that when you roll crimp you can’t reload it at the same length again because the hull is wrecked or weakened where it’s rolled?
I bought the Nick Ross reloaders network 4 pin years ago. Works awesome for my heavy 10 gauge turkey loads! To my answer above. I have to cut down factory hulls or they will be too long to cycle on my gold. I can get several firings without having to cut them down shorter. Some get cracks around the edges so I have to cut them down shorter.
I love your content especially your slug reloading! I've just purchased on E Bay the Forest Camping 12 GA Roll Crimper. It was less than $10 on EBAY, and with shipping came out to $3 less than AMAZON. Going to try this one before I consider an upgrade to this 4 pin. Have you ever used the all black nylon one? Seems to work great on TH-cam videos I've seen. Hope you can keep up your channel of TH-cam with their crazy new anti-gun demonticzations polices. Good luck and keep sharing this content.
Worth watching but really there is NO difference between any of the roll crimps. They all do the same job so just buy the cheapest of them and away you go. This is more of an advertisement for the Nick Ross product which while it is ok it is NO better than any of the others but probably costs much more.
Ok. So now it cost you as much the roll your own as good factory slugs. If you load your lee drive 7/8oz slugs for your barrel/gun you should get one big ragged hole @92 yards and in. With a five shot group.
FINALLY GOT MY NICK ROSS ROLL CRIMPER, AND 100% LOVE IT, THANKS FOR SHOWING ME IT. RAYMOND
Excellent presentation. Fair play for all...thanks Fortune
That was a real test on those mangled hulls! You were harder on them than me. I plan for the ones in the store to have a black oxide finish by the way. Excellent video!
Great stuff but been trying to order off the Reloaders Network but no one is answering. There doesn't seem to be a drop down for Canada and no reply on the second or third inquiry?? What gives. For starter I tried getting the Wad Seating Tool Combo for Svarog “Special” Wads
Anywhere else I could get some Nick Ross goodies??
Thanks!
Nick really does a nice custom job for the same amount of money that BPI wants for their inferior product. everything Nick has made is excellent quality, he makes things with that first time quality attitude. Good honest review Cookie.-Dave
Interesting and thanks for uploading. A US friend of mine calls this tribal knowledge, it's not written down. My 410 roll crimp (home made) has never been very good, so I just made another, two pins but actually just one all the way through. I snapped off my narrow grooving tool and used another. Thought it would be junk but gave a thicker crimp which I''m very pleased with especially for tube magazines. I don't reload, I have a very fussy gun (9410) that likes 2.5" cartridges (63.5mm). Many Eu cartridges come out up to 67mm even if advertised as " true 2 ½ inch case" so a quick re roll often sorts that out. Great video, very informative.
Where can you buy a Nick Ross 4-pin roll crimper in 2024?
I have started roll crimping for my 410 due to the store expense for that size shot shell. I am loading with shot though. I like the looks of that roll on that Nick Ross. I will consider buying.
Thanks for the video very nice 👍
Appreciate the good info. !
Thank you Steve, that was a lot of work. That looks like a very nice bunch of equipment for the loading bench :-)
Another great video full of great information. Thank you Sir!
This is awesome, I have the plastic one from BP and has done great, I know it won't last long so I will invest in this when I order my slug mold from TRN
It seems to me that if you reload for an autoloader, you want not only a rounded rolled edge, but also a slight taper to ensure no-snags feeding. Do these produce different top diameters?
Fortunecookie45LC, I love your videos and your positive attitude. Straight forward, direct, and great subject matter. Please keep up the awesome videos on all sorts of different reloading videos from reloading shotgun slugs to 45's to AR etc. I am curious as to what was your background and places/jobs you've worked. As a compliment, you are very well-spoken and explain everything is easy-to-understand terms for us newer reloaders. Thank you, again!
Why didn’t you trim your hulls down to match the slug wad and charge. And just put a little grease on the end of the hull. I use a little bowl with a pad with 3 and one oil on it and just dip the end into the pad and you’ll never have to keep putting vasiline inside the crimper and have to clean it often.
Man got to love that (blue dirt) lol I used to load 32gr of it under a rp12 wad with 13/8oz of 5s or 6s depending on temp and distance as a long long distance trap load for the 50-80 yard money shoots threw a bt99 or bt100 32 in ported barrel
I have one coming from Russia! The wait time is kinda bad, ordered 2 weeks ago and they say it may get here between Thanksgiving and Christmas, haha. But, it'll be worth the wait.
Good luck info FC. Thank you for sharing.
Are these no longer available?
Nice video but I guess everything old is new. I'm actually still using the bgi mechanical hand crank roll crimper 4 pin patent date 1891 they work good paper and plastic hulls takes a little effort but works good and it actually has a square roll crimp and the round roll and a lot less noise lol. And probably a whopping $16 invested.
Just have a quick question.... is it OK to neck turn and unify the primer pocket on once fired rifle brass?
Yes. That is why you neck turn and unify the once fired rifle brass. You can even check brand new bulk brass to make sure it is as good as it can be before you load it.
I was hoping for an explanation of what the pins did and why four were better than one. I have made my own as per a very good and very short (speeded up during the boring bits, take note!) video on here with no pins at all and it works just fine. I made the cutter as per the video from an old round file, cost? Very little!
I want one, the Nick Ross 4 Pin Roll Crimper, cant find one anywhere, are they still available??
How you ever used the Geap star crimp finishing tool? No one has said what one needs to start using the tool.
What kind of vise are you using on the press to hold your shells?
The Mossberg 590 is also a pump-action shotgun.........
This 4 pin design looks almost identical to the old crimper I have. It was brass though.
However, it looks these pins are especially not totally radial but angled. For a reason I suppose.
Is there another substitute for the vasoline you used?
2 questions if you have time to right back. Where did you find the Miller Rad..? And how fast where you running your drill press?
FortuneCookie45LC, is there a way to buy these as a set instead of individual? bought the 12 ga on reloaders network, but need the 20, and .410. Please advise.
Is that a harbor freight drill press?
Very cool 👍
Again, I warm up the tool before crimping...
Yes very important.
Yep!!!!
Can you reload these after firing without having to cut them down? I was under the impression that when you roll crimp you can’t reload it at the same length again because the hull is wrecked or weakened where it’s rolled?
I bought the Nick Ross reloaders network 4 pin years ago. Works awesome for my heavy 10 gauge turkey loads! To my answer above. I have to cut down factory hulls or they will be too long to cycle on my gold. I can get several firings without having to cut them down shorter. Some get cracks around the edges so I have to cut them down shorter.
WHHHAAAAATTTT? Where Do We Get The Molds?
Do you roll crimp anything other than slugs?
Is your table purposefully unsquare?
Hi FortuneCookie!
Could you use a vertical, "Steel Case", 5 drawer file cabinet? Need to give away ASAP.
dont a begginer need to know what powder, what slug?
JB - This video was really evaluating the roll crimper - a nice one...there are other videos talking about slug load data... Best to ya, Steve
@@FortuneCookie45LC sorry thank you
While not ideal, seems that last one might shoot just fine in a break over shotgun 🤷♂️
I love your content especially your slug reloading! I've just purchased on E Bay the Forest Camping 12 GA Roll Crimper. It was less than $10 on EBAY, and with shipping came out to $3 less than AMAZON. Going to try this one before I consider an upgrade to this 4 pin. Have you ever used the all black nylon one? Seems to work great on TH-cam videos I've seen. Hope you can keep up your channel of TH-cam with their crazy new anti-gun demonticzations polices. Good luck and keep sharing this content.
@John Beige Yes, , they produce factory grade shells!
I bought a Nick Ross in 410 and it worked terrible
my crimp hits my slug before I can complete the crimp
I just invented a new roll crimp tool with 6 rollers
Not as good as my 20 roller version. Now ask me how I fitted them all in.
So you're a piston fighter fan, eh. I have an hour of dual in Crazy Horse II; A WWII P-51 D, now called a TF-51.
Ugh. If you want good crimps, try GAEP crimping dies, 130f preheat, 1600 rpm, liquid silicon lube, 1 second crimp.
Worth watching but really there is NO difference between any of the roll crimps. They all do the same job so just buy the cheapest of them and away you go. This is more of an advertisement for the Nick Ross product which while it is ok it is NO better than any of the others but probably costs much more.
This used to be a great resource for reloading. Not so much anymore.
Nothing special from nobody special
Ok. So now it cost you as much the roll your own as good factory slugs. If you load your lee drive 7/8oz slugs for your barrel/gun you should get one big ragged hole @92 yards and in. With a five shot group.