Story 1 is just awful. The mother is a terrible person. The Father is terrible too. I get what the mom did to the dad was awful but you don't treat a child like that.
he was not confirmed as the dad there was not even one DNA test to prove that and it was said that ops mom cheated with many men and yet still was able to add ops father as the father without his permission or DNA test, after watching more the DNA test came positive, the only things that is 100% true is that ops is massively not the ahole and his actions are normal for a 13 years old person, both op and her adoptive dad are innocent, while her mother bio dad and also his wife heather are Aholes but the most ahole one is ops mother.
story 1 OP needed medical info from her bio dad that would have proved she had a medical condition from the sound of it sounds liek they had to SUe to get years after they would have helped
I'm an absolute prick and I know it, but when the parents in Story 2 asked me how my sister was doing after the surgery I would have just said she didn't make it and see how they live with themselves
They lost control of op and op's sister and unglued themselves. Their not helping people bulls is actually a weird form of control because it was "improving" them😑
S1 - While it sucks that Harold and wife are against you, the way they went about it is the hurtful part. It would be one thing if you’d reached out and they closed all the metaphorical doors. But Harold answered, he showed warmth, he said not contacting you was his single greatest regret. THEN he shut all the doors. That’s some next-level bait-n-switch. I’m going to guess that the wife threatened him with divorce and taking away his other kids, if he stayed in contact. He chose between the daughter he barely knows, who is on death’s door, or the two kids he helped raise, who are seemingly healthy. Not a great place to be, but I can follow his thought process from A to B. I wonder if lawyers could at least sue them for their medical history. Maybe the hospital has some lawyers who specialize in HIPAA laws. For that matter, sue them for some pretextual reason, then have the lawyers the hospital has lent you just walk through all the questions the doctors have, but call it cross-examination. Then, when you have the info you need, withdraw the case. But even to me, that sounds like some compelling TV while not being very realistic.
No disrespect to the OP in the first story. But when someone shows you who they are believe them. Why are you still reaching out to somebody that don't want to be around you? That don't want to talk to you. I don't understand I never understood reaching out to people and trying to be friends with people or want people to care when they're showing you that they don't. Block them. People and leave them alone if you got the medical records. That's all you need
Last story the easist way to get out of that "awkward" situation with his ex was to say I'm m with my wife". How is that so hard to understand? Why should he be flustered seeing someone he should've been over years ago? Especially WHEN HE GOT MARRIED
The mom's treatment of the dad is used as a scapegoat imo, the real issue is the stepmom and biological father. It's a fundamental issue with adoption though that children aren't put up for adoption with their full medical history. The dad was listed in this case so i dont know why his medical records didn't automatically get attached to her file and why they had to reach out to personally retrieve them.
1st story: wait how could you put down a man as a father when you weren't married to him, nor did he sign any paperwork stating otherwise. If I was him, even though he turned out being the father I would have sued that hospital because they were not supposed to allow that to happen.
yea there is a real bad Legal problem with paternity in the US it's why many ppl are pushign for paternity testing at birth (not just fto confirm the father but to test for genetic illnesses)
@@WardNightstone It’s a valid reason to receive a paternity test, a lot of people who engage in first cousin marriages have double all genetic disorder possibilities
Terrible parents freakin’ SUCK. Some people shouldn’t ever breed. You should have to get a license to just like every other important big responsibility thing in life. If you can’t pass a basic test, you aren’t fit for it.
@@SleddogHusky of course it wouldn’t work out, it’s just wishful thinking. But it would be nice if bad parents were kept out of the gene pool SOME way though!
@@macylouwho1187 I do agree with your point. But it's hard to keep the bad parents out of the gene pool, if not impossible. Sadly, won't be possible in the near future either.. :(
The problem isn't breeding it's raising them kids. Any sort of legal system that infringes on bodily autonomy is beyond fucked, BUT what would be good though is if we fixed CPS, invested in finding good, caring caseworkers, veting out foster parents and adoptive parents, hired more caseworkers so no kid was lost between all their work, mandated sobriety and substance tests for foster and adoptive parents and a really good system of monitoring them and veting out child abuse.
I really don't understand the op in the first story...there are so many DNA tests that can screen and provide genetic markers for illnesses and can predict future complications..why not go that route instead of stalking her biological father after they have already rejected her ....I can understand it's expensive but at least it's not that heartbreaking... moreover not everyone has a complete medical history for everyone in their family tree.. Third story the guy was leaving a door open for future interactions 😂😂😂😂
You said it yourself; it's expensive and they're going off over a decade of illness and hospital stays and emergencies. Hell one of the updates states they need to go on disability. If they could have just done it they probably would have. I imagine they tried to reach out to save some money where they can.
I Know Imma get flamed for this. But Bio dad gave up his parental rights. You do have a dad. The man that adopted you, raised you and took care of you is your father. Imagine how her dad feels. He's adopted her at birth and has done everything he could to pay for her medical bills and raise her only for her to try to toss him aside to find her deadbeat bio dad that wanted nothing to do with her. Only one who should be talking to bio dad is the adopted dad to bio dad.
So is the bio mom. She slandered and destroyed his life after SHE attacked him. Not saying the dad is right, but let's not pretend Bio mom is done angel.
@@amazingdoorbob5458Where in their comment did they bring up the mother being right? Are you the type of person who, when someone says they love pancakes, you accuse them of hating waffles?
@@addictofanimation2923 I'm the kind of person that sees bias when someone only calls out one crappy parent when they both suck. None of this would have happened if the mother wasn't a snake
Brain tumor: Ive had cancer a couple of times and healing takes a whole damn village. F these parents! Jen: Ok, wife is passive aggressive nutter butters and ythe mom is AH FFS!
Story 1, lost sympathy at the end. There was no reason to contact the father about her cats problems when there are plenty of vets in the world, but no she contacts the father instead.😢😢😢
That's what I thought too. I get that she'd love to have a relationship with bio dad but he has said no so stop coming up with lame af excuses to continue to contact him! It's borderline harassment if she continues.
Story 3 is so stupid- dude, if my boyfriend wanted to get away from his ex, I wouldn't give a shit if he didn't say he was in a relationship- like dude, I'm secure, thank you. Also, I wouldn't want any of my exes knowing a damn thing about my current relationship because it's none of their business. Some people don't understand that someone just may not want to talk to somebody and just say a couple of things to not seem like an ass when they leave, people pleasers exist- like, could he have said something? Yeah, but he didn't have to, and it's weird that he was voted yta.
Not to mention, if OP had introduced his wife and Jen decided to be a messy bitch and start something, then they'd probably still be vilifying OP for not ending the convo quickly enough. Or if he'd just walked away with no conversation at all and Jen followed him back to his table to start some drama it'd be OP's fault for not 'just talking to her to be polite' over at the other table.
S2 - did nobody see how OP told the ex as little as possible? Superficial answers at best. And ABSOLUTELY NOT ANYTHING important to him. Wives, kids, etc.probablu would have better to grey rock or 180 that whole conversation, but hindsight is 20/20. But the key point is that his ex isn’t allowed into the important parts of his life. Probably could have gotten the same result by being super insulting, but some people aren’t that was. So he gave her nothing either way. Getting nothing, she pushed harder, and the wife eventually noticed. Yeah, not the best thought out plan. A series of decisions that, taken separately make sense. But those events in that order added up to a worse outcome. I’ve run into similar patterns between me and my now ex. I’d suggest a thing, she’d say “Oh, I can’t, .” I read that as “I want to but there’s an obstacle. Fair enough, I hit the “problem solving mode” button in my head, and look for ways around her stated reason. There’s always something else stopping it, so I try to resolve that. Eventually, she gets (justifiably) mad that I’m not listening to her. If she had opened with “But I don’t like monster truck rallies.” That would be a different context. I’d instead have suggested other activities instead. But if she can’t use her big girl words, you can’t read her mind.
S2.b - I love the time travel metaphor. Basically saying that we can’t go back and kill Baby Hitler, because that war set things in motion. Or entire world would change. Time travel stories never say the new timeline will be worse, but we always assume. But like, the relative drop in global combat was a direct response to the Attrocities committed in the war. I forget who, but a newly appointed and improved EPA boss pointed at the absurdly huge book of all their rules. “Every rule in there, is because someone died.” We TRY to predict, but we always miss some. I’m told that the various Intel agencies had all the info needed to stop 9/11, but since they didn’t share between all departments, no one group or person had all the necessary pieces.
The comments in story 3 are so stupid But then again these are Redditors that most likely never had a relationship so they won't understand how awkward it is to talk to ex you haven't seen in a long time
Ehh, why did OP change sex during the first story. OP was a daughter until there was a girlfriend mentioned. Then OP was a guy. That was some serious medical issue.
Story 1 is just awful. The mother is a terrible person. The Father is terrible too. I get what the mom did to the dad was awful but you don't treat a child like that.
he was not confirmed as the dad there was not even one DNA test to prove that and it was said that ops mom cheated with many men and yet still was able to add ops father as the father without his permission or DNA test, after watching more the DNA test came positive, the only things that is 100% true is that ops is massively not the ahole and his actions are normal for a 13 years old person, both op and her adoptive dad are innocent, while her mother bio dad and also his wife heather are Aholes but the most ahole one is ops mother.
Story 1: OP needs to sue her parents and file for emancipation.
story 1 OP needed medical info from her bio dad that would have proved she had a medical condition from the sound of it sounds liek they had to SUe to get years after they would have helped
I'm an absolute prick and I know it, but when the parents in Story 2 asked me how my sister was doing after the surgery I would have just said she didn't make it and see how they live with themselves
They lost control of op and op's sister and unglued themselves. Their not helping people bulls is actually a weird form of control because it was "improving" them😑
No No i'm 100% in agreement with you
S1 - While it sucks that Harold and wife are against you, the way they went about it is the hurtful part. It would be one thing if you’d reached out and they closed all the metaphorical doors. But Harold answered, he showed warmth, he said not contacting you was his single greatest regret. THEN he shut all the doors. That’s some next-level bait-n-switch.
I’m going to guess that the wife threatened him with divorce and taking away his other kids, if he stayed in contact. He chose between the daughter he barely knows, who is on death’s door, or the two kids he helped raise, who are seemingly healthy. Not a great place to be, but I can follow his thought process from A to B.
I wonder if lawyers could at least sue them for their medical history. Maybe the hospital has some lawyers who specialize in HIPAA laws. For that matter, sue them for some pretextual reason, then have the lawyers the hospital has lent you just walk through all the questions the doctors have, but call it cross-examination. Then, when you have the info you need, withdraw the case. But even to me, that sounds like some compelling TV while not being very realistic.
No disrespect to the OP in the first story. But when someone shows you who they are believe them. Why are you still reaching out to somebody that don't want to be around you? That don't want to talk to you. I don't understand I never understood reaching out to people and trying to be friends with people or want people to care when they're showing you that they don't. Block them. People and leave them alone if you got the medical records. That's all you need
It's also a medical thing. She needs to know about medical history on his side.
@@DiaDaDemon2455 it's sad that the two people that should love her ended up betraying her.
S1: the adults are all pathetic excuses for humans. I don’t get why he couldn’t just share medical records then blocked her.
i can just imagine S2 story parents when they got older and ask for their children help/presence and op just gonna tell them to be independent.
Last story the easist way to get out of that "awkward" situation with his ex was to say I'm m with my wife". How is that so hard to understand? Why should he be flustered seeing someone he should've been over years ago? Especially WHEN HE GOT MARRIED
The mom's treatment of the dad is used as a scapegoat imo, the real issue is the stepmom and biological father. It's a fundamental issue with adoption though that children aren't put up for adoption with their full medical history. The dad was listed in this case so i dont know why his medical records didn't automatically get attached to her file and why they had to reach out to personally retrieve them.
The answer Is that they need his permission. He did not believe he was the father So he would not Give permission.
First story is sad
1st story: wait how could you put down a man as a father when you weren't married to him, nor did he sign any paperwork stating otherwise.
If I was him, even though he turned out being the father I would have sued that hospital because they were not supposed to allow that to happen.
yea there is a real bad Legal problem with paternity in the US it's why many ppl are pushign for paternity testing at birth (not just fto confirm the father but to test for genetic illnesses)
@@WardNightstone It’s a valid reason to receive a paternity test, a lot of people who engage in first cousin marriages have double all genetic disorder possibilities
Terrible parents freakin’ SUCK. Some people shouldn’t ever breed. You should have to get a license to just like every other important big responsibility thing in life. If you can’t pass a basic test, you aren’t fit for it.
The problem is, that this isn't gonna work out.. How do you make such licenses to breed?
@@SleddogHusky of course it wouldn’t work out, it’s just wishful thinking. But it would be nice if bad parents were kept out of the gene pool SOME way though!
@@macylouwho1187 I do agree with your point. But it's hard to keep the bad parents out of the gene pool, if not impossible. Sadly, won't be possible in the near future either.. :(
The problem isn't breeding it's raising them kids. Any sort of legal system that infringes on bodily autonomy is beyond fucked, BUT what would be good though is if we fixed CPS, invested in finding good, caring caseworkers, veting out foster parents and adoptive parents, hired more caseworkers so no kid was lost between all their work, mandated sobriety and substance tests for foster and adoptive parents and a really good system of monitoring them and veting out child abuse.
@@SleddogHusky Once the crack the cure for old age I'm sure they will find a way to sterilize folks along with it, and then licenses could happen.
I really don't understand the op in the first story...there are so many DNA tests that can screen and provide genetic markers for illnesses and can predict future complications..why not go that route instead of stalking her biological father after they have already rejected her ....I can understand it's expensive but at least it's not that heartbreaking... moreover not everyone has a complete medical history for everyone in their family tree..
Third story the guy was leaving a door open for future interactions 😂😂😂😂
You said it yourself; it's expensive and they're going off over a decade of illness and hospital stays and emergencies. Hell one of the updates states they need to go on disability. If they could have just done it they probably would have. I imagine they tried to reach out to save some money where they can.
I Know Imma get flamed for this. But Bio dad gave up his parental rights. You do have a dad. The man that adopted you, raised you and took care of you is your father.
Imagine how her dad feels. He's adopted her at birth and has done everything he could to pay for her medical bills and raise her only for her to try to toss him aside to find her deadbeat bio dad that wanted nothing to do with her. Only one who should be talking to bio dad is the adopted dad to bio dad.
The bio dad from the first story is AH and cruel
So is the bio mom. She slandered and destroyed his life after SHE attacked him. Not saying the dad is right, but let's not pretend Bio mom is done angel.
They didn't say she was. Just HE was cruel. And he is. Poor OP.
OP ther emight have a case for medical endagerment and mental trauma
@@amazingdoorbob5458Where in their comment did they bring up the mother being right? Are you the type of person who, when someone says they love pancakes, you accuse them of hating waffles?
@@addictofanimation2923 I'm the kind of person that sees bias when someone only calls out one crappy parent when they both suck. None of this would have happened if the mother wasn't a snake
Story 2 Make sure to keep an eye on their social media make sure they don't try and Trama farm your sisters condition since they don't acctually care
The amount of people that think a man wants his wife to meet a crazy and psycho ex GF that we had to go NO CONTACT with are also CRAZY and PSYCHOTIC
Brain tumor:
Ive had cancer a couple of times and healing takes a whole damn village. F these parents!
Jen:
Ok, wife is passive aggressive nutter butters and ythe mom is AH
FFS!
Story 1, lost sympathy at the end. There was no reason to contact the father about her cats problems when there are plenty of vets in the world, but no she contacts the father instead.😢😢😢
That's what I thought too. I get that she'd love to have a relationship with bio dad but he has said no so stop coming up with lame af excuses to continue to contact him! It's borderline harassment if she continues.
The first one is so fake. There’s no way it would have gone that far.
Story 3. 😂 Dude....😂
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Story 3 is so stupid- dude, if my boyfriend wanted to get away from his ex, I wouldn't give a shit if he didn't say he was in a relationship- like dude, I'm secure, thank you. Also, I wouldn't want any of my exes knowing a damn thing about my current relationship because it's none of their business. Some people don't understand that someone just may not want to talk to somebody and just say a couple of things to not seem like an ass when they leave, people pleasers exist- like, could he have said something? Yeah, but he didn't have to, and it's weird that he was voted yta.
Not to mention, if OP had introduced his wife and Jen decided to be a messy bitch and start something, then they'd probably still be vilifying OP for not ending the convo quickly enough. Or if he'd just walked away with no conversation at all and Jen followed him back to his table to start some drama it'd be OP's fault for not 'just talking to her to be polite' over at the other table.
@@EleiseaEisenwald literally, it's so stupid. Like what else was he supposed to do other than be polite and get away?
S2 - did nobody see how OP told the ex as little as possible? Superficial answers at best. And ABSOLUTELY NOT ANYTHING important to him. Wives, kids, etc.probablu would have better to grey rock or 180 that whole conversation, but hindsight is 20/20. But the key point is that his ex isn’t allowed into the important parts of his life. Probably could have gotten the same result by being super insulting, but some people aren’t that was. So he gave her nothing either way. Getting nothing, she pushed harder, and the wife eventually noticed.
Yeah, not the best thought out plan. A series of decisions that, taken separately make sense. But those events in that order added up to a worse outcome.
I’ve run into similar patterns between me and my now ex. I’d suggest a thing, she’d say “Oh, I can’t, .” I read that as “I want to but there’s an obstacle. Fair enough, I hit the “problem solving mode” button in my head, and look for ways around her stated reason. There’s always something else stopping it, so I try to resolve that. Eventually, she gets (justifiably) mad that I’m not listening to her. If she had opened with “But I don’t like monster truck rallies.” That would be a different context. I’d instead have suggested other activities instead.
But if she can’t use her big girl words, you can’t read her mind.
S2.b - I love the time travel metaphor. Basically saying that we can’t go back and kill Baby Hitler, because that war set things in motion. Or entire world would change.
Time travel stories never say the new timeline will be worse, but we always assume. But like, the relative drop in global combat was a direct response to the Attrocities committed in the war.
I forget who, but a newly appointed and improved EPA boss pointed at the absurdly huge book of all their rules. “Every rule in there, is because someone died.” We TRY to predict, but we always miss some. I’m told that the various Intel agencies had all the info needed to stop 9/11, but since they didn’t share between all departments, no one group or person had all the necessary pieces.
Well now we know why the mom cheated. What a crap man story 1
Op in 1st story needed to be treated like that cause if he wanted to he can go to CPS and the police but he didn't
The comments in story 3 are so stupid But then again these are Redditors that most likely never had a relationship so they won't understand how awkward it is to talk to ex you haven't seen in a long time
The wife sounds like a basket case and the redditers aren't much better.
I'm cordial with my ex but I never forget to introduce my current gf
Yea majority of people don’t stay in contact with exs advice from the internet from strangers especially Reddit got me messed up LOL😂😂
Awkward or not doesn't excuse the fact op can't catch a fuckin hit and see she trying to get with him
And even then didn't seem awkward for him having a whole ass Convo with her and shit
Story3: op did nothing wrong. Ofc, redditors tore him apart for nothing.
Tore him apart? Okay snowflake.
Ehh, why did OP change sex during the first story. OP was a daughter until there was a girlfriend mentioned. Then OP was a guy. That was some serious medical issue.
They're lesbians, Steve
Maybe if your mind was more open you'd understand that op is gay?
Girls can date other girls. Hope that clears things up for you.
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