6 Reasons to Buy a 2023 Toyota RAV4 (What's New?)
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- The Toyota RAV4 was improved for 2023 to help reestablish why this is the best selling Crossover in the United States. In the face of fresh competition from the Mitsubishi Outlander, Honda CR-V, Hyundai Tuscon and the familiar Subaru Forester and Mazda CX-5, the RAV4 still holds several advantages and I will go over those in today’s video.
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Good callout on the hybrid cable issue. They seem to have a "fix" by removing the compartment below a strip of cable so water doesn't collect. For people driving in winter climates definitely do a underbody wash from time to time to clean out the salt and slush. Keep it in the garage too with the added bonus of safety, thieves like stealing the RAV4.
Glad Toyota is doing something about the problem with the high voltage cable! I just hope it’s a real fix not a bandage fix
Good to know ,hope that does the job! Thanks for the info,much appreciated!
yes they fixed cable in 2022, of course Toyota way - in most cost effective manner - they removed half of connector plastic, so now water will go out and , this could help.
They give 10 years of warranty on the cable btw according to "The Car Care Nut"
toyotas will always win my heart
1.reliability
2.resell value
3.drives so smooth
4.cheap on maintence
5.amazing on gas
Would you say Hondas also have these qualities?
I’ve been driving Toyota’s for 40+ years.
In November (2021) my wife’s 18 year old Camry needed to be replaced. We live in a very mountainous area of north central WA state. We get 5-6 feet of snow every winter, so my wife had to park her Camry and drive my Rav 4WD Limited to commute to work. Then I’d drive our 11 Ford Ranger XLT super cab 4X4.
My wife is from MT and both of her brothers and sister in laws drive Outback’s. They get about 300K miles from their Subie’s.
So for her 50th birthday I bought her an Outback. She chose the Cinnamon Brown Pearl (it’s too dark for my tastes, but that’s what she wanted). It has the Warm Ivory interior.
Every 6 years one of my brother and sister-in-law buys a new Outback bc after 6 years, she’s hitting the 300K mile mark.
In 2020 she was driving her 2014 Outback with almost 300K miles when she hit a deer. All the airbags deployed and it totaled her car.
When the insurance company sent them a check, they had to come up with another $4K to buy another new Outback.
They hold their resale value very well.
Other than normal maintenance, they never have problems with their Outback’s.
My other brother and sister-in-law have almost 350K miles on their old Outback. They were here last fall and Skip fell in love with my wife’s Outback. They have a new one in order now.
Last December (2022), it was time to replace my old Rav.
I looked at the new Venza and the Rav Limited.
I called my insurance company to ask how much our premiums would cost if we bought the Venza Limited. It was an extra $1K per year. I almost fell over. Then I asked about the Rav and that was an increase of $700 per year.
(I was NOT impressed with the new Rav at all. It had a lot of road noise, the fit and finish wasn’t good, the seats were uncomfortable. Granted my old Rav was, well, old, but it was a LOT more comfortable and was quiet).
I then asked my insurance agent about the Forester Touring (the Touring is equivalent to the Limited or Platinum in the Toyota).
My insurance actually Dropped by almost $300 a year with the Forester.
I asked my agent why it was cheaper and she said that it’s bc Subaru is so much safer and accident avoidance is great. She also told me that the Subaru Outback and Forester got the highest IIHS Safety PLUS award, which is higher than Volvo and higher than Toyota.
Again, I’ve been driving Toyota’s for 40+ years and I Love them.
But at the end of the day, I enjoy our Subaru’s more.
Beware of the 2017 Outback. Even Consumer Reports says that year model is a POS.
The 2019 and newer Outback and Forester are super reliable. They’re as reliable as a Toyota.
Enjoy your day and stay in good health,
Doc
@@chrism3790Honda makes a good product.
BUT, AVOID the 1.4L turbo. They break down OFTEN and they’re Expensive to repair.
@@Doc1855 Thanks man. Good tip
@@chrism3790 Yes
This is the most comprehensive RAV4 review on TH-cam bar none. You did a helluva job there.
Got an SE trim for my wife in april 2022. She loves it, great in winter snow of PNW. Good tech, fast engine (compared to her old car), good interior and space. So far no problems mentioned above
Currently own a 2020 Hybrid model and you perfectly summarized the rav4. The new minor updates will be appreciated by prospective buyers.
In these days when the smart phones have turned everyone into an amateur video producer, it's wonderful to see your professionally produced video with no jump cuts, good pacing, professional editing and camera work, great, consistent audio and an excellent script. You do a great job as a presenter. Well done, all around. My compliments to you and the crew.
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great! concise, with no annoying hip hop beep bop background musak, and super animated high-on-crack chatter
Thanks for the unbiased, honest review. Helps consumers to decide.
You are right about the seats. I wish too that bottom was a little longer like 2010 highlander. It would make it super comfortable.
I think this was a very very good review ,Thanks
One difference between the gas and hybrid versions not mentioned is their ability in the snow. I live in CT on a mountain and have test driven both trying to climb it in the snow (3 inches on the road climbing 650 feet). With the gas AWD system no wheel slip, the car with snow tires competently climbs the mountain. The hybrid, without the rear transaxle and just a battery motor allows the front wheels to slip substantially before the rear wheels give any assistance at all to get up the mountain. It still can get up the mountain with great difficulty, but not with the confidence of the true AWD system available with the gas only option. This is only useful for those who live in the mountains with snow (like me).
So gas for Snow climate?
@@goodguy1651 if you live on a mountain, yes as far as I am concerned. I have a grade of 7 to 11 percent for that 650 feet. I don’t want problems. I’m used to have FWD when I moved here 13 years ago. Let’s just say I had to walk home a few times before realizing that driving in the snow with snow tires on a FWD car was a very bad idea
I live in Mississippi. I watch for AC efficiency. No worries on snow or heated seats etc.
@@zippyzipster46 Yes, you are fortunate. I can tell you moving to CT it was hard at first with FWD and snow tires. I had to wait for a plow truck to come and plow the road up the mountain before I could go home. An hour or two many times. Or walk the two miles in the snow up the mountain home. Trust me. It was not pleasant.
Gas will always be superior.
This is the best compact SUV of the World, where Toyota has 👍.
where I live in northern Europe, the waiting time is like 5-6 months now. Let's hope the market gets more stable until then.
When they make the RAV prime in a TRD, woodland or adventure model I'm in!
I don't even care about the Rav4. I'm on your channel for your subie videos, but you do a good job so I watch more.
same. I particularly enjoy when he wears short-shorts and shows off them legs @4:04
Thanks I really appreciate it, Subaru WRX vs GTI next week!
Thanks for a great overview of the Rav4 Tyler, which is on my short-list for a potential new car in 2023. It is shocking how expensive they are, but you can't take it with you. Happy Holidays!
Thank you and happy holidays to you as well!
2024 in NZ. So if you pre order now that’s the wait time. March 2024.
They're Surprisingly cheap. You're probably factoring in the dealer options they want you to buy and the markup they apply; vaseline not included
@@rohitnijhawan5281 Even without markup, it's a couple grand more expensive than a lot of the competition (hold for CR-V).
Send myme your old one as you buying the new one
Really happy with my XLE. It seemed to wallow a lot at first, but after two months driving it I don’t notice myself having to fight the steering wheel anymore. I don’t know if I’ve just gotten used to it or if it’s tuned itself to my driving style, but I think it’s more the latter.
I would like to know your opinion of the 2023 Honda CV-R, I know that reviews about it, but you offer interesting facts in your videos, thank you!
Summary: weaker and more expensive but more leg room.
I have mine for about 9 months now. My level of satisfaction is "Extremely Great".
I wish It had the options of a m/t with awd a rear locking diff. All time awd maybe like the old ones they use to make
That would be awesome, I’d personally throw a deposit down immediately if they made a manual 4Runner!
Good video
Thanks
I can’t believe Toyota dropped the articulating headlights options for all RAV4’s except for the XSE Prime edition now. What the heck?!! 😮
They sell an aftermarket replica online. It’s 1-1 exactly the same. As long as you know how to wire a little, you can do it in a few minutes. The panel behind the front wheels comes off to allow access to the fog light casings.
@@MichaelOrtega I think he's talking about the main headlights not articulating. Fog lights are options depending on the model you want. Personally, I see the deletion of articulating headlights as a bonus...one less thing to break.
Do those articulating headlights make a big difference?
Is there a button to fold mirrors?
Please make a video on Jeep Compass too!
In which segment Rav is popular? What is the shape look like?
I waited two months for rav4. And they have only the LE version FWD (non hybrid).
Problems: impossible mount roof rails. Don't have a start/stop.
The number one complaint from riders are the seats, they are not comfortable at all. No door panel window/lock lighting at night same as overhead console. The panels especially the roof sound like tin when it rains. Those are my main complaints of my 2021 Hybrid . I blacked out the chrome window trim above all the doors, looks so much nicer without the chrome especially since I have so much black out on my Rav4.
I bought a RAV4 XLE Premium in 2021. It is an investment for me as it will be my last car I will buy. Got the Ruby Red Flare, a beautiful car. I only have 10,706 miles on it so far. Going for my last free oil change next Thursday. I am 75 and picked the RAV 4 for the endurance and resale value. Enjoy every minute driving my RAV. I also bought the extended warranty. Good protection that I don’t have to worry about for several years. Safe driving everyone and hope you enjoy your RAV as much as I do.❤️🙂👍
@@lindahardy1017 I love that color Linda, it looks so great in the sunshine. I hope it serves you well. Enjoy!
@@3636lk It is awesome! Thanks!🙂👍
Did they fixed the wind noise from door windows?
Good luck getting your hands on a new RAV4 in Canada. Toyota has said pure gasoline models have 1+yr wait and Hybrid and PHEV is sold out for the next 2yrs!!!! Great review as always!!!
That’s atrocious for such a popular model!
Ordered our hybrid early October 2022. Was told it would be 12-13 months. Friend just ordered a regular RAV4 and it should be 3-4 months here in Canada.
We ordered our XLE Premium on June 4, ‘22… just showed up today. Luckily it showed up as a ‘23 rather than a late model ‘22.
@@bruceh5933 Nice. The 2023's have nicer touches. Did Toyota add illuminated switches for the windows or is that still an aftermarket thing that needs to be done?
@@waynebinky I haven't actually even been to town to see it yet. I'll let you know as soon as I get it, possibly next Tuesday!
What about the TRD? Is it competent enough to go off road? I have one on order since May 2022.
I mention that briefly here, it’s honestly fine for the kind of off-roading most people are willing to do in a small crossover but if you’re planning to push the limits, it may need some further modifications to compensate for its reluctance to push much torque to the rear axle.
The LE weighs close to what the 350Z weighs and is just as quick around town. More comfortable too. Handles potholes. Lol
Pickup my 2023 trail February 15th
I purchased a 2023 limited hybrid problem with it is it doesn't have retractable power seat.
I am facing with the pre collision system
I have a 2015 Rav4. My biggest reason I will buy a Sportage hybrid or CR-V hybrid is because off.
1# HOLY COW! How has Toyota not still fixed the awful NVH of this vehicle? For a $35k vehicle, how does it still sound like a $20k vehicle? No excuse for them to cheap out on these things. The amount of wind and road noise is unacceptable for a vehicle of this price. Even at 45mph NVH is distracting.
2# Remote start kills the car when you open the door. I don't like the extra wear and tear on the car.
Toyota happily sells you less for more. And idiots happily line up for them lol
@@kizo172 You are right my friend. Sheep mentality
Those that currently own a newish rav4 or are looking to get one, do a read on it getting stolen in minutes. Thieves bypass the security with a device connecting it via the left wheel arch, Canbus.
I have a 2023 RAV4 . I would not recommend this SUV to anyone. These are some of the issues I have/had:
Headlight went out.
Broke down in heavy bumper-to-bumper traffic during heavy rain. Dealership said water in intake and wanted to charge me $400+ to dry it out.
My headlights will not brighten manually or automatically.
I am 5'3" and have to be careful getting in/out so I don't bump my head.
There is a lot of road noise.
I put BFGKO2s on Mine..😊
How much did affect your gas mileage before and after?
They still haven't got rid of those hubcaps, time for alloys for all trims
I agree with you 💯 percent, especially since the price is north of 30k.
It's always nice to know you made a good decision buying a Forester.
😩Oh really.. Bad Jatco CVT transmissions as well as a chance of blowing a head gasket.. 👎
@@charlesjackson1700 head gaskets haven't been an issue for a long time, certainly since the F series engines replaced the EJ's. Also if you service the Subaru designed CVT it'll last a very long time - it's not a Nissan.
Nice try though.
@@EricGrassi the cvt isn’t that great and I have two foresters. Also owned a WRX but you are correct about head gaskets issues as that’s with the EJ’s.
@@ws6transam I had an Impreza with the CVT and now have had my Forester for about a year and a half. It's a good transmission. Failure rate is pretty low for any non-Nissan CVT, especially if they're maintained. The issue is that the maintenance schedules often say fluid is lifetime. It's not. Otherwise, Subaru makes a good CVT. They've been doing it since the 80s.
I think is stupid when brands put larger rims on their "off road oriented trim" and i expect Toyota to keep making that mistake just for the sake of charging more for more expensive larger wheels.
Me: I’m interested in a new RAV4!
Toyota dealer: $$$
The problem isn't the dealers. it's the fanboi cult around the RAV4. For pete's sake you can buy something else for 2 years and not get gouged.
@@rohitnijhawan5281
RAV4s are just popular as most other CUV makes by Honda, Mazda, and Subaru. I just won’t buy one. Supply/demand and pesky supply chain issues.
Yea… the interior infotainment system still looks old. I love this car but that screen just looks bland. Wish they would put what they put in the Lexus SUVs into this car.
Savings from gas are consumed by the purchase price. Good job Toyota.
I had a 11 RAV4 4WD Limited with the 269hp 3.5 V6
The one thing that I hated about it was that when I put it in 4WD mode, once I got to 25mph, it would disengage and then go into FWD only.
We live in a very mountainous area of north central WA state USA.
We have 3 Mtn passes to choose from between our house and Seattle. We desperately need the 4WD to work at all speeds for traction.
If I would have known this when I bought my Rav, I would have chosen to buy another vehicle.
Last December (2022), I decided to sell my Rav and buy another vehicle with full time AWD.
I looked at the Venza, the Rav and the Forester.
We LOVED the Venza but it only comes with 1990 Gloomy Grey or Death Black interior colors. Plus the rear visibility is horrible.
I then looked at the Rav Hybrid Limited.
I was completely dissatisfied with the road noise, fit and finish. The seats were very uncomfortable and the rear visibility was in the toilet as well.
In November (2021) I bought my wife an Outback for her 50th birthday. Her Outback was the first Subaru that we’ve ever bought. The traction on all road conditions are far superior over anything else on American roads today.
I called my insurance company to ask how much my premiums would increase with the Venza and the Rav.
The Venza was a whopping $1K more a year and the Rav was $700 more per year.
I then asked about the Forester. My insurance Dropped by almost $300 a year with the Forester.
Ultimately I chose the Forester Touring.
I chose the Brilliant Bronze with Saddle Brown leather interior.
Yes it has some road noise, but not as much as the new Rav. Yes I miss the 269hp V6 from my old Rav, but I Love the fuel economy from my Forester.
The visibility in my Forester is AWESOME to say the least.
My 84 year old dad, who is wheelchair bound Loves the heated and reclining rear seats.
When in my old Rav and the new Venza and Rav I tested, I had to fold the rear seat so his wheelchair could fit. I can leave the rear seats up when I load his wheelchair in my Forester.
The seats are so comfortable and supportive in both our Outback and Forester.
I’ve had to take my Forester to both Seattle and Spokane (3 hour drive to both) and my Forester remains comfortable.
In late April we’ll be driving it to our family farm in MT, (6 hours 1 way).
I’ve also noticed that I don’t have to fold the rear seats in my Forester while taking our 120# Chocolate Lab with us.
I cannot say enough great things about my Forester.
After buying my RAV4, I told my mom that the Rav was the most comfortable and nicest vehicle I’ve ever owned.
Now that I own my Forester, my old Rav seems primitive.
Thank you for your input. I need to decide between rav 4 and outback. Going to buy one on monday. I really like both. Toyota for its reliability and subaru for its space and a few more features. From what I've read, the awd system of rav 4, although inferior, you would never notice a difference vs suvaru. Not sure how accurate that is but I'd expect most manufacturers to have awd figured out by now
@@simd510 Well, like I’ve already said… in 21 I bought my wife an Outback. She Absolutely LOVES it.
We drove Toyota’s for 40+ years and even though they were either a 4WD or an AWD, we had to put studded snow tires on every fall and then go back to summer tires by April first.
My wife drove on her factory tires year round until they wore out.
The Outback and Forester have achieved the Highest scores for safety.
So far her Outback has been extremely reliable. My wife’s family live in Montana and most of them drive Outback’s or Forester’s.
The comfort is superior over the RAV. We loved the Toyota Venza, but our auto insurance premiums would have Increased by $1K yearly for the Venza and $700 More per year for the RAV AWD Hybrid.
We have full coverage on all 3 of our vehicles.
Her Camry was 18 years old when I bought the Outback for my wife’s 50th birthday.
Our insurance premiums DROPPED by $600 per year after dropping the Camry and adding her Outback.
Our insurance premium’s also Dropped by $600 per year after dropping my 13 year old RAV 4WD Limited and adding my Forester Touring.
I asked my insurance agent why such a Big drop in premiums. She told me that it’s because of the safety, accident avoidance and if in an accident, the likelihood of being injured is far less likely in an Outback and Forester.
In late 24, the RAV and the Outback will be redesigned.
I’ve seen pictures of the new Outback and it’s very nice looking. The 25 Outback will have more horsepower, get better fuel economy and will be offered with the RAV’s Hybrid system.
Likewise the totally redesigned 25 Forester will be available with the RAVs hybrid system.
The Forester has less than ONE cubic foot less storage capacity than the Outback.
My wife is short, 5’-2”. She likes the ride height of my Forester over her Outback. The Forester’s seats are higher than the Outback.
From time to time I am wheelchair bound. My Forester is the First vehicle that I’ve ever personally owned that I don’t have to fold down the rear seat when my wheelchair is in the rear. I had to fold down the rear seats on the RAV and Venza while I was test driving them.
When our Subie’s wear out, we will Definitely be replacing them with another Subaru.
I don’t know about the Toyota, but in the Outback and Forester, if you get cut off or there’s an accident right in front of you and you’re traveling at 50mph or slower and there’s enough room for your Subaru to fit into, it will literally try to get you into that space.
We know this to be true because it happened to us this summer.
Some jerk in the fast lane decided that he needed to take an exit, so he came from the fast lane, cut me off in the slow lane and onto the off ramp.
The Forester’s Eyesight saved us from being hit. My Forester slammed on the brakes and steered itself into the off ramp lane. This happened more quickly than I had time to respond.
I bought the Touring trim because I wanted the saddle brown leather interior.
My wife wanted cloth interior so I bought her the Premium trim with Ivory cloth interior. Now she’s wishing that I would have bought her the Limited trim in Ivory leather.
If I were to have the choice of buying a RAV, Venza , or Outback again for my wife, I’d definitely choose another Outback.
The Outback is also offered (on most trim levels) with a turbo charged 4cyl engine.
I had a warranty issue with my Forester, so I drove it to Subaru of Spokane (Washington state) because they have loaner vehicles for free. The part I need is on back order. We had a family emergency in Montana (a 12 hour trip one way). They loaned us a new 2024 Outback Wilderness trim with the turbo engine.
We found that the turbo engine is a fantastic choice. The car itself is more comfortable and sits up higher (like my Forester). After driving the 12 hour trip, we were tired from the trip but not tired from driving it.
The lane centering with the adaptive cruise control system makes it so much easier to drive. It’s like sitting in your recliner in your living room.
We got the notification of the emergency on our last day of our vacation in Hawaii.
So we had to drive from Seattle to our house (3 hour drive). We took the Outback to Seattle because it’s more comfortable on longer trips and we had all of our luggage.
So we drove to our house, repacked our luggage for Montana weather, loaded up my Forester and drove to Spokane (another 3 hour drive). Then we dropped off my Forester, loaded up the Outback Wilderness and headed to Montana. So we were on the road for 18 hours that day.
After returning to Spokane to get my Forester, my wife told me that we were going to save up the money so she can buy a new Outback (probably in 26-27 year model) with either the Hybrid system or a Wilderness trim.
We usually keep our vehicles for 12-20 years but my wife and I both were so impressed with the quality, comfort level, ride height and overall performance that I’m ok with us saving the money for my wife to get a turbo Outback.
Subaru says to change the oil every 6K miles, but I have it changed every 5K miles and have the tires rotated at that time too.
So being Toyota owners for 49+ years, we’ll be Subaru owners for life now.
I sincerely hope that my comments helps you in choosing the best vehicle for your needs !
Enjoy your evening.
Will you please inform me as to what vehicle you chose to buy? I’m just curious.
Enjoy !
Doc
@@simd510 Subaru has come a Lo g way with its reliability since Subaru and Mazda are now in bed with Toyota.
One of my sisters in law drives 50K miles a year, so every 6 years they have put 300K miles on their Outback’s.
They’ve been buying Subaru’s for decades now.
Been waiting since 2022 June for rav4 xle hybrid... so I'd say the "problem" is delivery
That’s what I’ve found around here too, if you have any particular trim or package in mind, they’re hard to get. The red one literally sold while i was filming this!
The "problem" is certainly NOT delivery. They could deliver all kinds of Rav4s if they had them. The "real problem" is the supply, issue which is mostly the short supply of chips caused mostly by China going in and out of lockdowns while the rest of the world is acting normal...... if you want to call the Ukraine slaughter as "normal".
@@henryhonda8408 Take a look at hyundai dealerships. Loads upon loads of tech yet 1000s of tucsons are on the lot.
Ultimately i surely hope toyota and its dealers get screwed for charging markups beyond belief.
Also being someone who is 6'3 and mostly legs, would you take this over the Forester?
Forester for tall folks imo!
so which trim is the best?
From my research best trim is XLE Premium.
What's the wait time for a Rav4 gas/hybrid in 2023? Have they solved their backlog issues?
I just ordered a XLE premium with a wait of 40 days
@@jonathanedelman Oh, that's not too bad. Thanks!
@@jonathanedelman So did I, was told 3-6-8 months, where are you? I'm in Canada
I ordered mine in may 2022. Expected to get it i end of july 2023. Live in northern Europe...
@@olovlarsson5578 jeeeeeeeeez that's crazy
Can't get a HUD,want memory seat but have to go up in trim,then you get low profile tires which I don't want. No turn signal cameras,have one on 2013 Accord works great. Kia has them but won't buy one. Want fog lights. Good ground clearance,and inside space. New info system,check out problems on Tundra videos. Rogue nice,won't buy with CVT and new engine. Really can't find what I want,in this price range.
I don’t know if you’re looking for advice or just venting but every setup runs into hiccups at first, it’s much better than the last gen infotainment and I haven’t felt any issues in the 3 or 4 toyotas I’ve reviewed with it. No single car will be perfect for all preferences, find out your most important priorities and then see which cars are left and narrow it down there according to which ones make you compromise the least.
@@Realistick Thanks I watch many of your videos,there great,just venting. My big vents in general, low profile tires,no turn signal cameras,CVT's, turbo 3 cylinders,black interiors. Might have to go with CX-50,but also like Rav.
@@mf-xo7sv Thanks, I understand, it can definitely get frustrating when it seems like each car has specific drawbacks you've been trying to avoid. Get out and drive them if you haven't done so already and maybe you will find one nuisance is much easier to live with than another!
Hey . I have 2021 Rav4. Its good but cabin is not silent at all. I hate this. I bought car $40000 and still can hear wind noise in car and on highway it's horrible, doesn't't matter how reliable it is. 2023 Rav4 is still like this ?
Did I call it quiet? This segment is typically a bit noisy, if you want something quiet, I’d recommend checking out the Venza or maybe a Subaru Outback if that doesn’t work with the budget.
PRICES LISTED is too low for the area aI live in. add about a thousand
I would choose the base rav with 8 speed transmission if I was looking
Been wanting to get a rav 4 or a crv. Currently have a 98 Toyota Corolla and I’m not a fan. This thing feels like a go kart on the highway. If you’re doing highway speeds on a windy day you’re going to get blown around everywhere.. and I’ve been having driver side tire issues. It sounds like either my hub bearing is bad or the tire is rubbing against the wheel well. Either way it’s nerve wracking.
Are talking about your old car or the Rav4..which one feels like a go-kart?
Until recently I’ve driven Toyota’s for 40+ years.
We live in a very mountainous area of north central WA state and get 5-6 feet of snow every winter.
My wife’s family are from MT and they Love their Subaru’s.
They normally put 300K+ miles on their Subie’s.
In November (2021) I bought my wife an Outback for her 50th birthday.
I’m super impressed by how well it handles the road in all driving conditions.
Last December (2022), it was time to replace my old Rav 4WD Limited.
We looked at the Toyota Venza, Rav and the Subaru Forester.
Our insurance premiums would’ve increased by $1K per year for the Venza and $700 more for the Rav. I was NOT impressed with the new Rav at all. The rear visibility in both the Venza and the Rav was horrible. The fit and finish on the Rav was disappointing. It has a lot of road noise and the seats are very uncomfortable.
Ultimately I chose the Forester Touring. It checked all the boxes. The outward visibility is awesome. It has some road noise but not nearly as bad as the Rav.
The seats are very comfortable and supportive.
The engine is peppy.
The Touring is top shelf. No packages are available as the Touring model has all of them as standard.
I chose the Bronze with Saddle Brown leather interior.
My 84 year old dad lives with us in an attached apartment. He is wheelchair bound.
I always had to fold 1/2 of the rear seats to get his wheelchair into the Rav. While looking to replace my old Rav, I had him go with me so I could see how hard it was going to be to get his wheelchair in and out. In both of the Toyota’s I had to fold the rear seat. I didn’t have to fold the seat with the Forester.
The Forester Touring also has heated and reclining rear seats and heat A/C ducts for rear ventilation.
Ultimately I chose the Forester Touring and my auto insurance actually DROPPED by almost $300 a year.
I chose the Bronze with Saddle Brown leather interior.
I use to think that my old Rav 4WD Limited was the best car I’ve ever owned, but I was wrong. My Forester is by far the best vehicle I’ve ever owned.
I’m retired and only drive about 6K miles a year now, so my Forester will probably be the last vehicle I’ll ever have to buy for my personal transportation.
My wife has another 17 years to work so I’m sure that when she retires, we’ll buy her another Outback and she can drive it until she passes away.
The Crosstrek is a good car, but it’s not as safe as the Forester or the Outback, which have received the Highest safety rating from the IIHS. They received the IIHS Safety PLUS rating, which is higher than Volvo.
I change my oil every 4K miles, but Subaru recommends every 6K miles.
Also change the front and rear differential, transfer case and transmission flush every 30K miles. This is what my in-laws do and that’s why they get 300K+ miles from their Subie’s.
If you’re on a budget, look at the Forester Premium or for a bit more, look at the Forester Sport. The Sport gives you a Lot more for the price
From what I hear, the Woodland edition has a stiff suspension, so you can feel everything.
I'll have to drive it myself! Toyota said it should soften it on light imperfections and that usually also means it gets firmer on the big stuff.
@@Realistick I own a woodland and my wife has a 2022 xle awd. Her car is noticeably softer over small bumps and potholes. The woodland is definitely a firmer suspension tuning.
2023 RAV4 CarPlay Navigation Issues while connect your phone to use the Apple Map or Google Map. The issues with their navigation over Apple CarPlay randomly putting them off-road, on parallel roads, or even off the route completely, like taking an exit ramp you're not on. If you are own one RAV4 2023, please test it out too see if you having an issue with the CarPlay. Toyota knew the issue.
I don't know if Toyota will take this seriously or not, but it's been so long for them to fix it. I hope more people know about it and complain to your Toyota dealer and open case with Toyota Brand Engagement Center, so they can take action faster.
Thanks.
I believe that’s an issue with your phone if it’s happening on CarPlay only. It’s happened to me before in other cars too!
@@Realistick Hi! No, this is not a phone issue; it’s a Toyota Apple CarPlay issue. I took my car to the dealer already, and I filed the report with Toyota Corporation. They know it’s Toyota’s issue, and they are investigating how to fix it. I’m not the only one who noticed; there was a large spread about it on Reddit.
If you or someone else owns the RAV4 2023, try it out for a few days with your Google Maps or Apple Maps. I just want to share to let people know that the more people know, the more people report to Toyota, so they can fix it faster. Thanks!
Did they fix the cabin noise issue
What cabin noise issue?
@@vladspinu2946Every reviewer brings it up..Engine Noise
@@josehuertas2441 I test drove the 2022 2.5 hybrid the other day, not that much noise really
Woodland or TRD Offroad vs. Forester Wilderness?
Wilderness if you intend on actually going to more remote areas or want the best visibility. The TRD offroad gets better gas mileage and can be better equipped. I’d personally go with the Forester Wilderness. For daily driving and most duties, the Woodland would likely be the best!
@@Realistick great points and that why i went with the Woodland over the Wilderness
@@Realistick Thank you for the info. I ordered one in October and should take delivery in January.
Keep the great videos coming!
@@ws6transam congrats!
@@Realistick thank you 🙏🏼
can't afford a RAV4 hybrid, got a Mercedes Benz GLB250 SUV instead, saved about $30K
Funny you say that but it might actually be true
Mtce costs will eat the saving pretty fast for a Mercedes if you plan to run it into the ground.
Benz don’t hold value unless it’s 80-100k plus cost and maintenance will drain you
And will be plauged with crazy expensive problem only a few years down the line ..... Mercedes long term reliability isn't even a thing . Get real . Mercedes are a lease it for 1 or 2 yrs and get rid of it asap kind of vehicle
@@EverydayJ1786 Yup. Our neighbour recently traded her Mercedes for a hybrid RAV4 limited edition. She says it's so much better than her old drive.
Interior tech and options lacking completely compared to rivals
7:07 my only beef. Guys does your knee constantly bang the ginormous center bulge that's not a transmission tunnel?
7:19
Topgun #1. 😎
Delivery 2 years! 🤮
Needs better engine noise suppression. Toyota cheap out in many ways. Maybe they deliberately do that to push you to Lexus.
Just wondering what the technical service bulletin details on the corrosion problem on the high voltage cable on the rav4……. Is it a patch job or a real fix. I’m very interested in this vehicle if they actually fixed the problem otherwise it would not make sense to purchase a vehicle with this problem because I live in an area with snow and salt on the roads and I can’t afford the numbers I hear of 5 to$ 7,000 to repair this every 2 o3 or even 5 years…… then this what used to be a reliable vehicle is definitely NOT considered a reliable in my books anymore!
Read the comment I pinned
I actually don't think it's been fixed. I was about to get my 2023 and have been a part of a facebook group for this issue. Someone took pictures of his 2023 model underside and it looks the same. Whatever Toyota did I don't think is going to cut it for the severe winters of Canada with our salted roads.
Thanks guys for the info! Good to know! Hope we hear a real fix coming down the road soon. I would hope Toyota would not want bad publicity on their best selling suv’s…… I’m definitely afraid to buy one right now.
@@petejansen7220 Toyota Canada now includes the cable as part of the 8 year 160000km hybrid component warranty but only for 2019 to 2022 models.
Previous generations had sportier look. This looks like a highlander now.
I liked all the previous Rav4 generations except the 4th Generation (2013 - 2018) as it looked like a pregnant chipmunk. 🐿🙃😂 I presently drive a 2020 Rav4 XSE hybrid...... best vehicle I've ever owned & I've owned quite a few over the years.
The new Rav4 does have a mean looking front grill which is ok with me. I probably prefer the front grill of the Adventure/Trail model.
@@henryhonda8408 Agree. I have an Adventure Hybrid.
"E-CVT" that sounds expensive to fix
I don’t know if it actually is because they’re so damn reliable
Those are not typical CVTs. They have planetary gears and are damn near bulletproof.
Don't confuse eCVTs (that you find on hybrids) with regular CVTs.
These things are supposed to be near indestructible
Dude looks like Jesse Pinkman from Breaking Bad. Certainly someone I would get Meth advice from, but not so sure about new vehicles.
this is my own private car review, and i will not be harassed bitch
@@Realistick Oh, struck a nerve did I?
@@percivalgooglyeyes6178 smh not a real breaking bad fan. I'm a Pinkman stan, you complemented me, I couldn't care less about a commenter judging me, that's inevitable.
Heated garage? Freeze thaw freeze thaw over and over
But this year it charges 5000 more
Australia not available until the end of 2025.
It's not such a great car as they say. I have been driving it for the last six months, 25k miles. Getting rid of this p.o.c. in January when I am getting another- quiet and comfortable! - real car not a toy.
"lug the engine" ? Less jargon would help
I didn’t think that was jargon as I really try to avoid that but lugging the engine is a much quicker way to describe it. It means that the car is low in the rev range despite throttle being high, it happens when the car refuses to downshift or a manual driver is abusive, causing both damage and unpleasant vibrations. Most of the time I will also say the car does or does not like to downshift when necessary, typically if it doesn’t like to downshift, it lugs the engine, sometimes it has the torque to overcome the load.
I don't know how they say Rav4 is not offroad capable. It's better than forester in terms of power and resale value. I have an Adventure Trim, it does so better in Rocky mountains offroad, i get 25 city, 33 on highway. With my 2020 forester i never got more than 26mpg and it lags the power.
Hybrid??? Electric??? 10 Inch screen??
I for One DONT NEED IT DONT WANT IT, BIG PRICE TAG LATER FIXING IT.
JUST GIVE US A BETTER DESIGN, MORE POWER, GAS, STICK SHIFTER, AWD AND MOST OF ALL "ROOF RACKS".....THEN I AM ALL IN.....
But whatever, I always buy used anyway.......LOL
Used only from Car Rental Sales companies like Enterprise, Hertz or Avis.
NO BS IN PRICE, BAIT AND SWITCH.....ETC...
Dealers are FREAKING ANNOYING and games...
Why cant the MANUFACTURER SELL THE CARS AND TRUCKS DIRECTLY???
KNOCK OUT THE DEALERSHIPS👍
I have been driving RAV4 for the last 6 months. 25k miles.
1:22 - reflection of the left fake plastic aluminium trim exactly in the spot where the back mirror is. IVery annoying. I had to use a black tape to cover this seilver trim. Now it does not make me angry everytime I look in the mirror.
4:13 you hit here the biggest problem - the driver's seat is dramatically uncomfortable. I feel real pain after driving for a longer period of time. No support whatsoever. The pasanger seat is even worse, luckily - most of the time I drive alone.
It is the stupid seats that made change the - otherwise not a bad - car. Within few weeks I am gonna get another car with really comfortable driver's seat. Shame on you toyota. I am so very dissapointed.
Change to what?
Vw Touran
My 2021 XLE Gas. I just took a 3k mile trip, the cloth seats were very comfortable and no reflection issues with the rear mirror (mine has black trim). I opted for cloth seats as they stay cool in summer and warm in winter, unlike leather. 36mpg too. Great fun, Lots of luggage space too.
There are carbon look plastic trim pieces on amazon to replace the reflecting trim. Videos out there for the modification and how it looks. I thought the mod was good.
@@waynebinky thank you. I am not driving toyota anymore - at last :) Don't have to replace anything in my new comfortable car. All the best in the new year.
The Tech (infotainment screen ) is complete HOT GARBAGE !!!.......................1/10 Toyota !
Nothing new, make me skip to other brand.
One reason not to buy 2023 RAV4. 1) You can’t buy it.
Supply is limited, not nonexistent, the red one in the video was available.
1 reason not to buy. They come after 1-2 years
This one was available on the lot. Supply is limited, if you want something now, you can’t be very picky but that’s not a reason to avoid one.
I’ve been waiting 11 months for a 2022 model….
Where at? It’s been much easier for me to get ahold of one of these than the corolla cross or standard corolla!
was it worth it?
CVT, no thank you
Do you know what an e-cvt is? You can also get the 8 spd auto with non-hybrids.
Turbo engine? No thanks.
Rav4 has never had a turbo.
What a relief.
What a hideous car
Why