Why this could be TikTok's last year in the US I DW News
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- American lawmakers have passed a bill which could lead to a ban on TikTok. The bi-partisan legislation forces the popular social media platform to divest itself from its Chinese parent company Bytedance or face a nationwide ban. The bill gives TikTik one year to sell its stake to a US-based entity. Lawmakers in both parties have raised national security and data privacy concerns. Supporters of TikTok question the constitutionality of the bill. The popular video app has an estimated 170 million users in the US.
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Ban it please
and you still praise the freedom of speech in America. LOL
And if they ban it we will boycott absolutely everything.
No. US doesn't want to ban it. US is robbing a business because it is the best.
nah..they dont wanna ban it, they just wanna snatch it. make a law to legalize robbery, yankees indeed are descendants of brits
@@alanssshh An APP gets banned but whose gagging you?
Live without tiktok trash sounds to good to be true.
Tik Tok is people's choice and part of freedom of speech.
Very wise.. if not for the security concerns then for our kids mental health
@footballbrainiac4696 Obviously its much too late for your mental health.
you got young kids?
Why don't you just give your kids an education?
The US could have imposed specific rules for Tik-Tok's use in the US.
China did that ... the US could have too.
@@cristinaximera9663 exactly
I’d love to see this done in Europe for instagram Facebook and TikTok !
Instagram and Facebook are Holly freedom businesses😂
Simply amazing how many people hate freedom. They don't understand they are coming for them too.
exploiting the youth, the lost and the lonely
@@footballbrainiac4696 there less exploitation there then at your local church.
If US politicians actually cared about personal data security then it would make regulations covering all social media. Social media has become a major part of our daily lives, and it is important to ensure that users are being properly protected. To do this, governments should be regulating the activities of social media companies and enforcing standards of transparency.
But they don't care about the consumers. They only care about protecting US social media corporations that donated lots of campaign money like Facebook's top executives that have made at least $3.9 million in political donations, according to data from the Federal Election Commission.
I support such a regulation, the key is, it may not be used politically and thats what I fear, when I see the US weird politics. Both gonna have to find common ground
@@ronnie5329 Common ground? That's a laugh. There hasn't truly been a common ground since the multi party system
They push forward extreme videos in the algorythm, horrible app for kids, extreme disinformation and hate
So, that's the reason.... too many proPalis comments 😅
And TH-cam too
Just like dw news
Tik Tok satisfies the requirements in US and has been welcome by Americans.
You are saying they meet the definition of a social media company.
They are not banning TikTok. Sell it.
You can't say the Chinese government has no say in the company, then tell me the Chinese government has to sign off on the sale. 😂
Chinese gov has no say in the sell of individual company, but it has laws to prevent the export of important technology, every gov around world has these laws, not unique to China. So technically tik tok sale can be banned since it involves the sales of the core technology that’s developed by Chinese. So it all depends on if China feels this is worth battling about or it should focus on retaliating through other means.
It will be interesting to see if TikTok exists solely for US data collection under the PLA, or if it's a free market enterprise acting in the interests of its investors. Note, its banned in china, India, 8 European countries, and several in the Middle East with no pushback fro the company
Shut TikTok down world wide.
if u think u have the power to do it, u have the tyranny mindset
if u can shut TikTok down world wide, u are a tyranny
TH-cam as well? Because all I see is US trying to steal a chinese company by force because it popular.
👍🏻👍🏻
No, because YT censors proPalis comments, so no need@@biocapsule7311
and Instagram
Happy to see such support for a tiktok ban here, hope europe will follow suit
*soon
No. Tik Tok is NOT banned. It is required to continue under same group unless the owner.
Never used it
The fight through constitutional court will be long and costly.
Freedom of speech is a joke. No constitution in US.
only a gov't funded entity, banned in it's own country, would take that fight on because it is so costly. What could possibly make it worth it? Better for investors if they break from the PLA.
0:21 National security! The old favorite, the regime would understand that line surely. 🤗🤗
How does it feel to be on the back foot for a change? 😁😁
awesome bring back Vine
Vine is dead, there is no coming back
Shut facebook and insta down too
Won’t happen. Facebook and Instagram are American, why should America ban American apps?
@@TuhunluunBionoid More important there are 1000's of ex FBI/CIA/DHS moderators on these social media sites.
Children should socialize, read books, and engage in sports, rather than wasting their valuable time scrolling through TikTok trash.
What about Reddit, Instagram, X (Twitter), and TH-cam
That’s is the same comment when video game come out.
@@beasley1232freedom of speech is a joke.
Nothing has been required to change except the owner.
Which books? The books the GOP is banning all over GOP controlled states?
And what about 4chan and 8chan.
And how about Chanchan?
@@gluteusmaximus1657 fr but how about oniichan?
China should ban Apple in chinese market...
They basically already have. Also China doesn’t have any social media from America or anywhere because they have no rights to anything outside of China.
@@justinwolf7490 "Apple for the first time became the largest smartphone vendor in China by shipments, new data for 2023 released on Thursday showed. The iPhone maker's market share in China stood at 17.3% in 2023, according to the International Data Corporation (IDC), a record-high for the firm in the world's second-largest economy" Jan 25, 2024... you should read some newspapers sometimes...
@@justinwolf7490. So the US is becoming China, now?
Durrhhhhh.
@@justinwolf7490lol last I checked, apparently China banned Meta’s Thread and WhatsApp from China Apple Store on April 19th as a retaliation to the US House vote. That means in China it did, likely there are others, exist.
even without america market, tiktok will survive for its bussiness model. tiktok is so popular in rest of world anyway.
Might not coz 2 major populations India and us are excluded
@@aiimsnewdelhi3455 There is a lot more world out there besides many people use just use a VPN in the US
Pretty sure if it gets banned in US. EU will start doing the same ;)
No country is trying to destroy the idea, but nobody trusts the CCp to manage it. That's all.
Hopefully the other developed countries will follow suit
Please BAN ALL SOCIAL MEDIA.
This is great news.
ending the freedom of speech is great news? good brainwash
Ahh yes, the Land of the Free where the government decides which apps you are allowed to use. The land where the government cuts away your freedom one app at the time.
1984😂 tiktok crime
US, the land of the insecure and home of the paranoid! 😂😂
It will be interesting to see if TikTok exists solely for US data collection under the PLA, or if it's a free market enterprise acting in the interests of its investors. Note, its banned in china, India, 8 European countries, and several in the Middle East with no pushback from the company
@@icu17siberia TikTok is banned in China??? Where do you get your information??? 🤣
If the Chineese government has to approve the company sale then i am sorry for all of you out there that use tik tok but that tells me all i need tto know that these concerns are warranted
lol, you must be naive in thinking a country has no legislative power over its own citizens selling or transferring their businesses or tech etc. Any country can do that, not just China, happens all the time.
Every country gov has to clear the sale of its company sold to a foreign entity. It’s the norm. US and Europe do that all the time, especially for high profile company like this. So what’s your point?
It will be interesting to see if TikTok exists solely for US data collection under the PLA, or if it's a free market enterprise acting in the interests of its investors. Note, its banned in china, India, 8 European countries, and several in the Middle East with no pushback from the company
There are people in the U.S. who don’t have enough money for healthcare or rent and inflation is running rampant but Congress is more offended by an app. Okay.
Thank you CCP for your lame comment
maybe this helps them. they shouldn't be using up data that they pay for for an app thats banned in its own country
What laws has Tik Tok broken?
The US could pass a law making it illegal to push any user data outside the United States to any country, or prohibit the sale of user data to 3rd parties without the expressed consent of the user, but that would ruffle some feathers by the likes of Google and Facebook.
Thank you CCP for your lame comment
@@wackychicken You do realize that banning Tik Tok would not keep any adversary from collecting user data? Its not like its already happening. Send my regards to Mark Zuckerberg
It will be interesting to see if TikTok exists solely for US data collection under the PLA, or if it's a free market enterprise acting in the interests of its investors. Note, its banned in china, India, 8 European countries, and several in the Middle East with no pushback from the company
@@wackychicken We don't live in a totalitarian society yet. This is not between the US and China, it's between the American people and their government.
@@icu17siberia None of those countries have a 1st amendment to abide by. But if the US has a law prohibiting the transfer of any user data overseas, then a case could be made for banning Tik Tok if it can be proven in a court of law.
The 14 amendment equal protection clause also gets in the way.
Zuckerberg enjoying this
Useless app
if China doesn't allow Google, Facebook, X, and other foreign (or US) social media apps to operate in Mainland China then the world should do the same as well
The problem is they are allowed but just didn’t want to follow Chinese law. Tik tok follows US law, but is forced to sell.
@@TuhunluunBionoid no, not forced...they have a choice.
@@icu17siberia they are forced to sell , or be banned. They chose to be banned.
Tik Tok Tik Tok.. time is ticking lol
Ban TikTok & Meta. the worst thing is actually meta
Ban? Or, Sale?
They have 9 months to sell ,if they don't it will get banned
Byte 💃 is pissed!
I just used TikTok for a while, and the content that the algorithm recommended was mixed with how much Americans need TikTok, how prosperous and progressive Chinese cities are, how cute Chinese leaders are, etc. It doesn't seem normal😂
It gives you what you have paid attention to. So maybe you should reconsider what you put your eyes on.
This is nothing. They were giving me videos about how communism was good. I uninstalled the app.
It will be interesting to see if TikTok exists solely for US data collection under the PLA, or if it's a free market enterprise acting in the interests of its investors. Note, its banned in china, India, 8 European countries, and several in the Middle East with no pushback fro the company
Didn’t realise until Ben Dorman said so that 170 million is HALF THE US POPULATION 🤯
How ?
When 60% Bytedance(TTok mother company) is own by Emerican
Google monopoly
A good business is robed.
At least some thing not really discussed in this was the fact that after the user data was on the server was said to be secure according to byte dance (i think its called Project Texas), they still found that admins from China could still pull whatever data they wanted. Many articles referencing insiders state that the Chinese side of the company can still access pretty much any user data that they want.
Also a major spark of this was one of the recent Chinese National Security law that was argued to be so exceptionally vague that the Chinese government could basically force any company to act in its own interest with virtually no legal limits.
It should be noted that China does not allow for US based Social media and even bytedance has to run a wholly separate app in China as the Tik Tok app is blocked in China.
How is that different from any other app? Admins always have full access, that is the point of being an admin. What is a problem is when state authorities get access to private conversations, but that is happening with US apps as well. Which is why US apps usually face scrutiny in the EU, where privacy still trumps "national security".
Ahem, there is a difference you know. TikTok is fully compliant to USA law in their operation, going as far as storing American user data in the States and through third party Oracle, an American company, cloud system.
Whereas American entities like Facebook, they ‘left’ China, strictly speaking not banned, because they did not want to comply with Chinese laws; which China gov asked them to store Chinese user data in China as well as sensitive content restriction. In comparison, entities like Apple continues to operate in China because they follow Chinese law, which means to follow China gov ban, like removal of WhatsApp and Thread.
So Oracle have a security concern then. Trust me if there they have evidence already, they don’t need to waste time here, just band right away using executive orders right. When they don’t do that? Because they want to own TikTok for censorship and money.
@@mapletibits6372 Facebook was blocked in 2009 after it was found people were communicating using it in some riots in the western provenances. Chinese laws are notoriously vague, unlike many western laws. You're in compliance until they decide that you are not.The vagueness allows the state to interpret them as they see fit. Many of these apps suddenly fell afoul of "National Security laws" and were ok until there was some event occurred that could be negatively associated with them. A good example was during the HK unrest, a road map app got banned/blocked because protesters figured out they could share police locations by putting pins on the maps. I dont recall any company leaving because they had to store data on any chinese server (its possible though, feel free to share which one if you know). The reality is most left because the CCP required them to have censors that could remove anything deemed anti Chinese, not just for the domestic users but users anywhere. China has a long history of trying punishing companies who didnt toe the line just because a single employee spoke out, even if it was on a platform not available in China.
Also Data being stored is different from Data being accessed. Just because its on Oracles servers does not mean the parent company cant see it, they still need to do updates, and they need your personal info to calibrate their algorithms for that ad revenue and moderate content. They dont make money by simply storing videos after all. Around January this year, it was revealed that Chinese admins still had access to the data despite the traffic being moved to US based servers back in 2022. The info was obtained from insiders sharing internal communications sent by executives.
Not just that but many policies regarding separation of the parent company from the data were quietly rolled back at the start of 2023. Feel free to search for info about the article, the original is behind a paywall (The Wall Street Journal) but plenty of other news organizations summarized it.
@@trnogger Oh totally agree, and I run blockers, dont even use chrome, and minimize my use of social media (have to interact with it a bit since the rest of the world doesn't see it the same way I do, and heck Yahoo is tracking this convo right now!), but im an odd ball in that respect. I absolutely hate the idea that companies use my data without me benefiting from it. I dont know if its still the case, but Facebook would track you via the Like Button on any website, even if you didnt if you didnt use the Like button itself. So long as that button was displayed, FB was trying to track your habits. These websites absolutely need to be heavily regulated in general. Nothing prevents any US social media company from abusing thier data collection. They could sell much of the same data to a foreign adversary essentially if they wanted too.
Ban Instagram, Facebook, and onlyfans...
i like this ben guy.
TikToks never had much time - only one minute per upload. ⏰
SHUT IT DOWN! SHUT IT DOWN FOREVER! - Mr. Book
Good Move!
Democracy and freedom and market economy in action
BAN IT!
Ban it already
free market?
OK, attack a supposed tech champion. Works for me, and ,frankly, it’s about time to push back against the power of tech social media. So why not start with Tik Tok? Again, works for me and obviously our congress.
It starts with tik tok and stops with tik tok. US only has the guts to take on the ones who are not American owned, since there is no political donation from non American companies. Don’t kid your self.
Google, tiktok, facebook all the same to me as if the Americans wouldn't spy on people 😂
Thank you CCP for your lame comment
@@wackychicken bro rly? What are you implying. That i am lying?
@@wackychicken Do you work for the FBI?
Asset theft by making laws.
It will be interesting to see if TikTok exists solely for US data collection under the PLA, or if it's a free market enterprise acting in the interests of its investors. Note, its banned in china, India, 8 European countries, and several in the Middle East with no pushback fro the company
@@icu17siberia In the USA everything is for profit including the data. This is just legislative theft. Bans don't work anyway.
Your move EU.
As soon as its master tell them to...
It will be interesting to see if TikTok exists solely for US data collection under the PLA, or if it's a free market enterprise acting in the interests of its investors. Note, its banned in china, India, 8 European countries, and several in the Middle East with no pushback from the company
@@icu17siberia Can't really push back when multiple US companies are banned in CCP China.
An entire year is too much.
Please ban it but not for the popular reason.
No american apps are allowed in China. It's time to get rid of this tik tok rubbish.
Microsoft, Unix, ios, IE and Edge are all OK in China ... because they comply with Chinese law.
Google, Facebook and Chome did not ... that's why they're banned.
Tik-Tok complied 100% with US laws regarding privacy and access ... and exceeded the US's data security requirements by allowing Oracle to store, manage and secure all US data.
But TikTok did not invite 1000's of ex FBI/CIA/DHS folks into their content moderation department.
Sell it and I'll immediately sign up!
I bet Kadirovs army will fight for their right to tiktok. Without tiktok nobody can see their bold moves.
Wonderful!
I promise you the Chinese government won't like tiktok without Americans users. I am certain of that 😂
Chinese gov couldn’t care less if US uses it as long as Chinese technology don’t get forced to be sold to US.
It will be interesting to see if TikTok exists solely for US data collection under the PLA, or if it's a free market enterprise acting in the interests of its investors. Note, its banned in china, India, 8 European countries, and several in the Middle East with no pushback from the company
Boomer here, "A world with less social media.... owe no"
Banned facebook, WhatsApp, Google and TH-cam
shut it down
Too much for freedom of speech...
It’s such a dysphoric, addictive experience. Tiktok users are the stoners of gen Z, but it’s much worse.
Ban Facebook.
Where would those 1000's of ex CIA/FBI/DHS content moderators now work?
Hypocrisy
Tiktok being punished for not muting the Palestinian voices .
I think it was banned in china for maybe similar reasons
@@icu17siberia Palis views are not banned in China. But other views are.
And to refresh my memory’s TikTok is not allowed in China.
If you understand all social media is controlled in China.
Social media in China is not allowed for young people in all forms.
Eg TikTok is not allowed in China.
@@user-tt6il2up4o What gets me is a couple weeks ago or a month ago on the news when the vote had passed to initiate the banning, there were so many protests from people demanding that they have access to TikTok. They just don’t realize that they are being manipulated.
It’s like an electronic Pavlov reaction.
And we want to be just like China?
@@mgronich948 Just for TikTok.
LOL they already collected enough data 😂
It's not about data, it's about the fact there aren't 1000's of exCIA/FBI/NSA/DHS people working as content moderators in Tic Tok, like there are in facebook and MSN and to a slighly less extent in Google.
Good call, Congress, good call.
Tick tock tick tock
Ling Ling
İts Tik-tak now..
India already baned TiKTOK 🤣😂😂
People need to stop acting as if this is a bad thing.
It is a spy tool
Finally!
About time!!!!!! .. get that Chinese shy app out of here!!!
Yes, let’s use American Spy app instead, they are much better anyway
I like Ben
They want to ban TikTok but don’t want to ban OnlyFans 😂😂
everything is national security concern for U.S. gov , like german and european cars that manufactured and sold in their soil,
It’s hilarious that boomers think this is going to change the opinion of others about what they have been up to. 🤣🤦
Good
FINALLY
Ban it!!
Sure Sure. Chinese ownership is the reason lolz. So when is USA going to ban Volvo, Lotus, Polestar, Lynk & Co, Saxo Bank Group. Cos last I checked ZheJiang Geely owns them.
It will be interesting to see if TikTok exists solely for US data collection under the PLA, or if it's a free market enterprise acting in the interests of its investors. Note, its banned in china, India, 8 European countries, and several in the Middle East with no pushback from the company
tiktok show too much the truth of GZ
The real reason for the ban.
Free market, invisible hands, free speech, my ars...
When Musk took over Twitter we learned facebook had 1000's of ex CIA/FBI/DHS intel agency staff as content moderators. The neocons are trying to run X out of business. They have control of every other source of news for Americans.
please ban first Facebook, Instagran and TH-cam.
"First" lol. Tictok is a good start. They can ban those after.
Those companies are American companies that are beholden to US law. Why would they ban them first? Get outta here
They won’t ban any American owned social media! Stop dreaming.
A good day. Funding for Ukraine----selling Tik Tok to a non-Chinese entity.
free:🤥🤥
I will never use it if they sell it to the USA
What? Your using TH-cam now
Yet you’re using TH-cam 🤡
You shouldn’t use it now anyway
Seeya 🤣🤣
as long as you're paid to monitor and comment, you will visit all US platforms
Hope Australia bans it as well
already very restricted there
@@icu17siberia I don't know don't use it but sounds like it's not restricted enough
TikTok is a waste of time. It will automatically mute you if you comment too much.
so would other platforms
Haven't used TIkTok. I know MSN's algorithms censors a lot (Some commentors have taken the name censored on MSN) We learned from Musk that Facebook does as well. But from what I've heard the neocons want to ban tiktok because they don't mute you.
National jealousy
Death vans
China mustve been real jealous then when they banned FB, Google, Instagram, skype, linkedin, etc etc etc
They are protecting the kids. Have you seen what kind of extreme stuff they allow? My gf is from Shanghai, its not on their version
@@ronnie5329You should shut down the Internet. Google, X, and FB can search for all pornographic websites and provide services. Why do you still want your children to use various social media?
@@ronnie5329. If they were protecting kids, they wouldn't have so many guns around.😅
Monopoly
Tictok dont have monopoly ? do you even know what that means ?
@@Kimfakkel who said I'm talking bout TikTok monopoly
@@icemanzw lol a video about tictok and its not about tictok ? So your comment dont make sens for anyone beside you.
@@Kimfakkel I asked you a simple question who said I'm talking about Tik tok monopoly?
@@icemanzw If thats the case please answer my questions first ?
Every successful Chinese company is a national security concern of the US.
Yeah, cuz they are the only enemies of the US. 😬🤣🤦
but this one is banned in its home country
That's the definition of a national security threat to the US. Being a successful Chines company.
The new Russia if the u.s
Now who’s the dictatorship 😂😂😂. This is so laughable and pathetic.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
When bots come around in big numbers, its a US sponsored news!!!
Ummm the bots are from the Chinese side. This is not China... US gov does not control the news or bots
Tiktok will be done the minute it loses the US market cos there is NO nation as entertaining as Americans 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
Tiktok is localized, I barely see any US content on my tiktok, mostly content from my country and surrounding countries.
@@user-zc1cx8jc4s Yeah well, it sucks to be a mainlander, that's for sure. Maybe that's why so many are doing a "leeming" & leaving? 🤔🤔