FAIL! Smith and Wesson M&P 10mm Review
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Today on Alaskan Ballistics, We're taking a look at the Smith and Wesson M&P 10mm. Good defense gun or trashy?
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I just picked up one of the performance center 10mm. Took out to range fired 50 rounds of blazer and 40 rounds of 200gr underwood. Blazer all ran fine. Underwood I had 3 FTF with nose up malfunctions. After watching numerous vids I ended up putting Springer precision extra power mag springs and a 24lb Galloway RSA and took back out to range. 50 rounds of blazer, 60 rounds of underwood 200gr hardcast and 20 rounds of Underwood 220gr hardcast with zero malfunctions. Sucks you have to upgrade springs but it was cheap and seemed to make it run like it should.
That's very good information. Thank you!
I used the same Underwood ammo in the video out of my brand new stock Gen5 Glock 20. I Ran TWO boxes of 20 rounds, 200gr “black cherry” hardcast. Cost me $60, but I wanted to assure reliability in the Glock. Not one failure. The Black cherry rounds can be shot through polygonal barrels. This is my new bear defense while hiking out of bear season.
GLOCK…. Still winning.
Is your pc the 5.6 barrel version? If so, did you get the 4.6 length Galloway recoil spring?
I have the same issue with my PC 10mm. I am waiting for my Galloway rod and spring, and wolff mag springs. My hot 180gr reloads do the same thing. Such a huge disappointment by S&W. I'd send it back, but I just don't have faith and time to waste fighting with them to fix something that should work right to begin with.
@madamscustoms let me know if those work.
And Chuke did proclaim:
“let the 10mm reign and so it shall be…”
Thanks for sharing and regards from Washifornia !
Lol
.40 super has entered the chat
Hey! A fellow Northest California resident!
I've had to get a 22lb spring from Galloway persion(for my 4.6")and now it feeds everything reliably. It helped it stopped the bullets from hitting the top of the barrel hood.
Good to know
Thank you
Have the 4"and it runs great. I put the Galloway Precision 22 lb spring in it because I'll shoot heavier loads. Factory spring is only 17 lbs to probably shoot the common factory loads that are lighter.
@@WilliamKisteryes I will also keep the 17lb guide rod in case I ever come across some lighter loads
AB. Good video. Thanks for sharing. Take care.
Thanks Bobcat
Me too. Sad part is when I called S&W, they said it would take 8 weeks. So here I am scouring for video that this is common. I will be sharing this vid with them (S&W) to try and get something done in an acceptable time frame. Thanks for the video!!
You're welcome. I'm sorry you're having problems. FN, GLOCK, and Springfield are the only truly reliable 10mm.
Nice looking gun. Never shot one before. Have a blessed day and thanks for the video NY.✝️🙏🇺🇲
Hopefully if you shoot one, it works.
Went with the Sig X-TEN. Also got a good deal on an S&W 610. I'm good.
Nice.
The fix is to buy a guide rod and 22 pound spring for the 45ACP you’ll have no more problems
I've seen several people comment that. Thank you
Some other youtuber seemed to fix this issue by putting in a 22lb m&p 45 spring from wolf and a high strength mag spring. Give that a try
Not my gun but I'll let them know
I had people give me all kinds of hell when my M&P 10 mm jammed on blazer brass. Glad mine wasn’t the only one.
Nope. There have been a lot of people who have had trouble
I think the guntoting pacifist had issues too
Anch here. I changed my mag spring and guide rod spring. No issue.
I've heard that. What springs did you go with from a company?
Thanks
Thank you
I have the 4.6 model & it’s been flawless , I’ve put everything threw it except for hard cast ammo since am no where near bear country.
Cool. Hope it continues to work well for you.
I love the grips on it. My m&p 2.0 5" 9mm is awesome, at least after it was sent back to the factory for work
Cool review I haven't gotten a chance to shoot this model yet, but I was wondering why my local shop has had one of these on display for around 2 months unsold.
Glad you didn't buy it and find it the Hard-way
I just bought the 4.6” version. I have a 24lb recoil spring from precision and I can’t wait to get it to the range with some underwood ammo to try it out. Oddly enough the 24# spring from precision compared to the one from the factory, I can’t tell a difference when I cycle it. You’d think I could with a 8# difference in pull.
I’m hoping I have no issues.
Let me know how well it not all it works
Great review, it has nice features but I don’t see myself trading in my Glock for one.
Agreed.
"But they have such good ergonomics and look so good"! Put that on your tombstone.
Interesting performance. My Kimber Raptor II 10MM had issues the opposite way. The light, 40 S&W style loads wouldnt reliably cycle (recoil spring too heavy) but the full velocity loads are good to go. Well, after fixing the slide stop of course 😖
Good to see you buddy! Glad you've got your Kimber worked out!
@AlaskanBallistics sure did. They helped me out without issue but my adjustment was actually better. At least with 1911's, fitting is a real thing. That M&P should just run.
@MagicPrepper totally agree.
Ive got the 4" & a Quick fix: glock 20 10mm flat 22/24 pound recoil spring & a stronger mag spring will fix the problem.. it runs all ammo I feed it now with no hiccups at all.. hope it helps!
Cool thanks!
Short feed lips are not necessarily a problem. The feeding needs to be timed very carefully. I heard smith and wesson magazine springs are the culprit but in this video alone you have more experience with the gun than i. I personally think i should be able to tune one up to feed reliably but at this point i am graduating towards the sig sauer since it has modularity that makes it more workable.
Have fun
I just bought one last week, but i'm in the industry as a Gun Tech for the Midwest's largest "Serious About Firearms since 1939!" Glad I invested in a FN 510 MRD first! My Glock 29 with (23# spring) works flawless, so far.
Sweet hope yours works well. Love my g29
As an instructor for over 35 years, I have ALWAYS maintained that S&W make’s better revolvers and Colt makes better semiautomatic pistols. I have only owned one M&P 2.0 which was a .45 auto. I sold it based on the trigger pull after the first time I fired it. I currently have three 10mm’s: 1. EAA TANFOGLIO HUNTER ELITE with a six inch barrel.
2. Glock M29
3. Springfield Armory 1911 Operator. I usually carry the Springer. Especially in the Appalachian Mountains. I carry a lot of spare mags. If I need to be more discreet, the M29. I would consider the Sig X-Ten if it comes out in a compact.
Good choices
What is a Glock m29?
Model 29. 10rd compact 10mm
We’re beating a dead horse here, we’ve been over this many times , if you can’t or don’t want to change the mag spring and recoil spring for heavier ones, roughen the mag feed lip to cartridge contact area don’t buy one, it will jam on the 2nd or 3rd to last round in the mag with full power(underwood) loads.
True. Just demonstrating it. It should be able to run hot Underwood loads out the box or they shouldn't produce the gun.
Mmm. Delicious 10mm-is-Best-mm making that target dance. Awesome stuff!
Thank you
I've run 1,000 rounds of standard SIG 180 with three misfires. Also 100 rounds of X9 Woodsman without a single fouled shot. I'm really happy I went with my gut on my M&P 10mm.
Glad you didn't get a bad one
Yeah, I think I’ll get the Taurus TH10 now, thanks! 🤙🏼
That one is even worse! It died the same things plus fails to reset the trigger and drops the mag.
Taurus has never made a quality gun
What is a good 10 then? 🤷🏼♂️
@blackalligatorstudios7533 glock 40, fn510tactical, Springfield xdm, Dan Wesson bruin, sig 220 legion
I put 300 rounds through mine last summer. I tried replacing the mags, recoil spring and slide lock (it would lock back at random times). I had ftf, fte, and mag drops on Underwood and Buffalo bore ammo. I traded that sucker back in for a different gun. Would not trust an M&P 10mm at all.
Wish it had worked better for you my brother
but, wait - aren't you the guy that put his .30 cal suppressor onto his .45-70? That sounds like USER-error!! haha! j/k...I think.
But seriously...I like they mentioned the mag maybe not being ideal design, and saw pinned commenter mention different springs in the mags. Just wondering if you did that, or did you just replace with mags of same?
And locking back...he had it happened but he instantly thought he might have been riding it. I believe I saw you do that with your Tanneritio, or however that is pronounced, yah? Do you have footage of your M&P and locking back - is it possible your thumb pushed it while firing? Or are you sure that wasn't happening? Not trying to pick or anything. Just looking to figure out the issues and whether there are any solutions or at least the causes.
Mags falling out is pretty scary. Any malf is. I'll be putting another 500 rounds through mine before I carry it again, or at least will have something else with me as backup (like I usually do anyway).
Do Underwood or Buffalo Bore offer any suggestions? In some cases they specify different spring rates.
Anyway Underwood and Buffalo Bore are special demands ammunition (bear defense) and cycling failures are good to know about, but for civilian self defense the question is whether it will shoot big brand ammunition like Winchester, Federal etc.
You have great recoil control of the 10!
@@mdubb4855 for clarity… I had ftf, fte on many types of ammo. When I ran underwood and Buffalo bore it then also began dropping the magazines (blowing them out the bottom). I couldn’t find any manufacturers rounds that would run reliably in mine.
@@triggerbarPhD then most likely poor design. Thanks for clarifying!
I guess I'm just real fortunate. I hand load and went through Underwood's complete collection of 10 mm. We're up to about 2500 rounds. No malfunctions. I have shot some ridiculous no, I will never load that again. loads out of there
Thanks for sharing your experience.
@@AlaskanBallistics I wonder if it was the first Smith & Wesson released. I can't prove it but I think they replace the recoil springs, after having all of these issues
Possibly
VERY happy I looked at Glock. Considering the Springfield XDM after seeing this. Thanks
Got both xdm elite best out of the box in my experience.
Glock model 40
@@AlaskanBallistics I'm thrilled with my 20. Don't like the 29 or 30 (45 ACP) I had due to recoil. I'll check out the big brother.
Long heavy slide takes the recoil right out!
@@AlaskanBallistics thanks as always!
Nice, I like my 10 SW
Does itl jam on you?
@@AlaskanBallistics bro mine has not jammed yet. I’ve ran light loads and now I’m running borehead 180 grain. I’ve ran 220 grains before just to see if it’ll feed, and it ate.
I'm glad yours works
Most of the guns on the market (and maybe all of them) in 10mm need stronger springs to handle the “real” stuff from Underwood/Buffalo Bore.
True
It’s unfortunate, but yeah. It’s why I’m still not sure of a Gen 5 20 or a 20SF. I know I can put a barrel and spring in the SF to handle the hot stuff and improve accuracy, or I can run an optic and factory ammo for the Gen 5.
@ryannafe9252 I ran a ton of everything on my video on the g twenty gen five
Norma and Winchester set the normal ballistics for 10mm. Some newer ammo is what we call full power now.
True
My 4.6 runs perfectly. Decided to change the mag springs anyway. The one i had kept loaded was an inch shorter that the other mag spring.
Oh wow. I'm glad yours runs great 👍. Have you tried heavy hardcast in it?
@@AlaskanBallistics yes the 200gr Underwood hardcast.
Good to know. Glad yours runs great. Did you get it as soon as they released it or later?
@@AlaskanBallistics as soon as they came out.
Cool
I don't like plastic pistols. I owned a Glock . I was issued it for work. It was 357 sig. It worked most of the time. But had to go to the armory several times, failure to feed and a couple of times light primer strikes. Im retired from law enforcement. I sold it and bought another colt. 1911. Absolutely flawless. Forged steel for me. To each gis own😊😊😊
Good luck! Thanks for sharing your experience
I've settled on buying a Springfield XDM Elite 10mm. I haven't found anyone having issues with that gun
It's a great firearm
Have to do the same. I really wanted the M&P, it just feels better in my hand. No chance I'm going into bear country just hoping it doesn't fuck up on me though.
Chuck I must say that I am a bit jealous …. I want to live in Alaska so badly, it is so beautiful there. Alaska to me is pretty much “The Last Frontier” when it comes to this failed Republic we live in. Vermont is also beautiful and I do like it here, but the vast majority of people here are brainwashed, order following sheep, it’s unfortunately sad. Be well sir, and be prepared. - Jason/Freedom Fighter Until Death/Vermont, FRA (‘FRA’, meaning “The Failed Republic Of America”)
I worked my way here. You can too
I read forums and some people say that ftf apparently connect to weakened magazine spring.
Could be
If you use that pin in the grip more than a few times then it will loosen up and fall out with recoil.
Good to know. Hasn't happened on my 9mm.... yet
The 2 mags that came with it do this, one on the 2nd to last round, the other on the very last. 2 I bought off the shelf are flawless.
Gotta know, is the bolt face smooth on yours or does it leave a line engraved on your case heads? I also have some bad milling in the chamber that leaves slashes up the case body. Really hate sending them in for repair.
Mine does not mark the case very well
How many rounds have been run through these pistols? Are they broke in? Don't give up on them yet. Great video. Next time have Chuke add the S&W Performance Center 10mm to the mix!!!
Several hundred. Good pistols don't need a break in.
@Alaskan Ballistics Agreed.
I've never owned a pistol that needs "break in".
Only two 10mm handguns I trust. The Glock 20 Gen 5 MOS and the Glock 40 Gen 5 MOS.
I do however change my recoil springs based on what load I’ve got in the gun.
Good idea. And great choices
Interesting, as I have both the s&w and the g29....and the only problems I have had are with the undies and and the buffs, slightly more probs with the g29 than the m&p....and I am a big guy with big hands, no gloves, newer mags, the heavier bullets do not present as evenly
No issues at all with my glock 29
Love my 10mm xd never had a jam 500 round through it
They are a good gun
I got the 3.8
@nonfiction_4life156 good gun
Im going to be down in Las Anchorage end of the month foing to try and bring my 204 ruger ar15 I have built it would be first mag used one it too
Cool
WAYYYYYYYY BACK ---- when I got a new pistol before I ever took it to the range I would clean and reoil then pull it out and just work the slide at least 50 - 100 times every day for at least a week ---- never had any issues. Since I don't have a few thou to put into a Dan Wesson, probably would just stay with a Glock.
Smart ideas
I wanted to like this one but my mags would just randomly fall out, and had multiple jams with heavy ammo like Buffalo bore and underwood. I wish it was reliable because it has great ergonomics and nice trigger.
Send it back to Smith
@AlaskanBallistics . I already got rid of it a while back. I just stick to my glocks and Springfield 10mms haven't had any problems out of either
@DH-1776 nice
have you tested the underwood 45 230gr plus p fmj load? looks promising.
I've not. When i can i will
The manual states to leave that little bar down when reattaching it
Cool thanks
I purchased the Performance Center 2.0 .10mm with the 5.6” barrel and I've had no problems with it. I love it and highly recommend it!
Good to know they get something right! Enjoy it! Godspeed and good hunting.
I love Your all Reviews. But 10mm are the best. In Your opinion which one is better: s&w mp 10mm, sig xten or fn510?
Glock model 40 duh.
But seriously probably the FN is best though i hate its grip/ feel
@@AlaskanBallistics Can I Ask why?
It's the only one that works without stoppages
@@AlaskanBallistics I see. What about sig xten?. Great grip and trigger.
Trigger can be outrun easily when firing fast. Extended slide locks are in the way of a proper grip. I just released a review on it a month ago
Nice pistol Chuck. Two jams ain’t cool though. I guess that means a Glock, Springfield, FN or Sig? Cheers Dave 🇺🇸 🇳🇿
Glock
Appreciate your video. Definitely looking at a Glock 20 or 29. Too many failures for my tastes...lol
Thanks. Don't count out that g40 either. I carry IWB to church.
I wonder if it's just one of those guns that needs a break in period.
Said guns have no place in my collection.
I'd send that sucker back. I have a couple friends that have these and they run perfect
Smith has worked out some links then. Do they run perfect with all ammo at all power levels, or just range ammo?
Oh no. You called it a ‘jam’. Any minute, one of THOSE guys will be along to point out the unforgivable sin you just committed. Thanks in advance gatekeeper guy, for doing such a great job…
Godspeed and good hunting my friend.
Mr. Way Too Proud of My Gun Vocabulary Gun. 🎶
Everybody knows it's called a Jelly.
I love FN firearms, so I've been looking at 510's, but I honestly can't pick any 10mm over my Glock 20.
Boringly reliable & I shoot it well.
Only one better than the 20 is the g40
Too bad. The ergonomics are hands down the best for any new 10mm. I’ve never had a problem with my M&P 1.0s and 2.0s. Hopefully they can figure things out. This is the kind of behavior I expect from Sig, not S&W.
Ergonomics are definitely the best.
👍👍
Thank you lance!
My 4.6 version has never had a problem and my shield plus 9mm and my 2.0 in 45 has ran flawlessly
My m&p 2.0 9mm 5" wouldn't reset the trigger.
My shield is fine though
@@AlaskanBallistics know it's a late reply but my 5" had the same issue. I put about 100 rounds of 9mm NATO through it which is loaded slightly hotter then most 9mm you'll find on the shelf that seemed to do the trick as the range I was at was noticing my gun was not fully cycling. I.e it would cycle enough to chamber the next round but not reset. After that break in using hotter loads though it's ran flawlessly since. Granted one example for my particular issue. As for my 10mm I have the 4.6 and it's ate everything I've put through it. Haven't used hard cast yet as not in bear country. By far my biggest lemon is my Ruger 5.7 though I had to adjust my magazines feed lips to get it to run reliably.
Want a 10mm someday, not sure which 10mm. Will likely depend on what is available to me.
Glock model 40.
@Alaskan Ballistics if the roster goes away. Right now, 20 series and 29 series are all we get.
Buy g20 and get lone wolf slide. Or move from the Caliban
I have the 4.6 inch Smith 10mm and fired 500 rounds through it and never jammed on me. it is my everyday carry, but I use my Springfield Armory XDM elite 4.6 inch 10mm for bear defense
@Cedric Richard Sr. Glad yours works
Hmmm. Interesting. I have a 9mm, 10mm and 40 cal. Never had any of them jam
I had some failures from my 5" 9mm...
Well crap, I was just about to order one of the 4” versions because I will be in grizzly bear country hiking this summer. I wanted something concealable, and really wanted a Colt Delta Elite, but they are unattainable unless paying the “how stupid are you” Gunbroker price. Looks like I will be carrying my S&W M29 6.5” in a shoulder holster instead. Any recommendations on ammo for bear country that doesn’t have extraction issues in an M29? Seems like lots of the high pressure ammo for bear defense tends to cause extraction problems. Thanks for the video.
255gr Keith gascheck from m buffalo bore. I carry it in my s,&w 629
@@AlaskanBallistics Thanks so much for the quick response. I appreciate you saving me some money on the M&P. Between your review, and some of the comments I’m glad I avoided this pistol. Come on S&W. I expect better.
You may hate the feel of them but glock 10mm's run. The g40 with a kkm barrel in it is the ultimate 10mm. Got tons of videos with it in there.
And thank you
How about going with the .40 S&W and you take care of the recoil or snappiness!
10mm had a lot more energy for woods defense
The best plan for testing involves “Chuke’s guns”.
I don't have to pay for them that way.
Its the magazines. Its not the width of the feed-lips. Its the length. They are too short. The magazines were made for .40 s&w. The 10mm is too long in the magazine. The feed-lips on the magazine are too short and they make the bullet go nose up instead of nose forward. I feel like i need a welder at the point.
Other people have fixed the issue with a different recoil spring
@@AlaskanBallistics I changed the recoil spring to 22lbs and still have occasional feeding issues when getting down to the last few rounds. It only feeds properly when the magazine is full. I think the real issue is the magazine springs are weak. I ordered some extra power springs from Springer precision.
@marsisthegodofwar cool let me know how that works out
That aluminum case fouls my 10 like crazy, look at the slide rails after running it,I avoid that shit like crazy
That's why it's a Nickel case not an aluminum.
Replace recoil spring and call it a day
Might do so
Ok so I have a new update it appears s&w did a little bit of tuning right under the loaded chamber indicator hole, if you're experiencing feeding issues take a spear head polishing Bob and polishing that area, I replaced springs polished th fk out of ramp and I thought the entire chamber but missed the top area. Runs like a sewing machine now, kinda irritated it was something so fkn simple that they didn't do
Interesting
And that’s why I went with a Springfield XDM elite and have no malfunctions.
Yes it's a good gun
Just finished shooting some hornady custom 180 grain XTP had 1 malfunction out of 30 rounds. The casing got hung up and folded backwards 😳🤔
Interesting...
Let me know how it goes.
im ordering one of these on monday knowing full well it could have issues. Thats ok for me though I dont mind tinkering. Also its not a self defense pistol, edc, and i live near no bears. We shall see if it has issues or not.
Good luck! I hope yours is wonderful for you!
Did you guys mix up the mags, or were they kept with their own gun
Kept with their own gun
I have 9mms with Buffalo bore 147gr +p hard cast and seismic 185gr Rounds im good to go..
Put it in n the right spot
1:10 good to know I was worried about getting hit through the screen...
Lol safety first always
Do you reload 10mm Auto? What does your bear protection load consist of?
10.2gr bluedot behind a ckbcastbullets dot com 180gr coated hardcast. Brinell hardess is tougher than most bullets
I've got a video with a 10.gr powder charge in my 10mm playlist
@@AlaskanBallistics Thanks! I have used 10.0 grains of Blue Dot with any cheap 180 grain bullet I can buy (for training) for years in the stock barrel of my G20. I have a Lone Wolf barrel for cast bullets and plan on trying them out soon.
Nice
I haven't had an issue with mine. But. Haven't put 200 thru it yet. So we'll see. 4.6 version Btw.
I hope yours continues to be awesome
@@AlaskanBallistics thanks, you know what would be interesting is all your takes on the forty Smith and Wesson.
I have the five inch and the four and quarter. Since you have bigger animals up your way than I do in the u.p.
Id really be interested.
I've only got the 5 inch 9mm
@@AlaskanBallistics Okey doke 👍
Only 10mm I will use is one that can handle Underwood 220 gr.
Agreed 👍
Something of interest: “Apex Tactical has shown support for the M&P M2.0 chambered in 10mm with their Failure Resistant Extractor line of components.”
Yeah I've seen those
Mine runs flawlessly. I have the 4.6 version.
Happy for you. Go okay the lottery, the odds are in your favor😆 Godspeed and good hunting
@@AlaskanBallistics play the lottery?! Naw you’re over exaggerating brother. There’s literally more videos on how reliable this gun is vs the ones who are having these issues so ima just chalk it up to production quality. I’ve had issues with Glocks but I didn’t go on a Glock is shit rant like y’all be doing.
Lol there's a lot of people commenting that theirs doesn't feed either in each of those videos. How many of those reliable videos are using 200gr Underwood?
@@AlaskanBallistics umm I can direct you to 8 right now. Compared to what, 3 videos showing failure to feed…and 2 of them are the 4 inch barrel. Dude I’m the wrong one to question about videos lol I literally watch every video on a gun before I even think about buying it. Then I’ll test it at the range before I purchase. Idk like I said I’ve ran everything thru it, even 220 grain, not one issue.
@@AlaskanBallistics and the irony is that the s&w 10mm was voted top 10 firearm for bear county (Alaska), and you’re shitting on it because you got a bad apple in the bunch. I wish we would stop damming the brand name just because you got one that didn’t work. As I said before, Glock has had issues before, I have them personally, I didn’t say Glocks aren’t reliable lol I chalked it up as a production problem, sent it in and they fixed the issue. Simple as that.
Failures like that are annoying...
Even more so when you're staring down a grizzly bear...
@@AlaskanBallistics I bet
I lost a MAG straight out of the gun on an SVDe.
Yeah everyone knows the SVDe is junk lol.
Why all 3 of my 10’s are Glock, no feed issues. They just work
Exactly me too
500rds of sig sauer 10mm not a single malfunction in my 4in
Nice! I am happy that you got a good one
looks are important but function is most important. DO NOT TRUST THAT GUN WITH YOUR LIFE IF YOU VALUE YOUR LIFE!!!
Totally agree
Way to make a redundant run on sentence
Lol you still know what he meant
We don't. And we didn't
@Sak-zo1ui did not happen. My target was low on the ground for the backstop. Magazine release wasn't touched... i don't know what you're seeing but you're wrong.
If that happens when a griz is comming to eat you, i would want 100 percent reliable. COLT 1911. Will get you there. I don't you guys getting eaten . I really like your channel.
Thank you!!!
300 rounds no problems so far. Some guns are picky? Cheap ammo is like running your truck on watered down diesel. You just don't do it.
This wasn't cheap ammo. But Underwood bear loads
@@AlaskanBallistics sorry I meant in general cheap ammo. To me most good 10mm are pricey!? But we’ll worth your life!
Smaller grain and faster rounds have worked better in my M&P 10 4inch consistently in my test. Those over 200 grain rounds tend to fail. Last box I shot was the 155 grain UNDERWOOD flat nose ball ammo at a screaming 1500 fps and it performed well.
That's good
Seems smith rushed these to market... I'm going with G20
Good idea. G40 is a little better though and only 4oz heavier loaded. Producing a short on that now.
Bit of a limp wrist maybe ?
Nope didn't happen
Blaser has weak 10mm loads
Yes
If it's a new gun it may need to be broken in
new modern striker fired weapons shouldn't have to be broken in. besides, it had hundreds of rounds through it.
You would really trust 10mm against brown bears??😬
With the right projectiles it has been proven to work multiple times...
Wow.... I wouldn't trust anything less than 12ga with slugs. In my mind, a Mossberg shockwave SBS would be perfect! But you can't carry it on your hip.
@njw1977 many documented cases of 10mm working just fine.
Just stick with what every other gun wants to be: a Glock
Agreed. I've got many videos on the glock's!
Using the tool to remove the slide still disengages the sear, it does the same thing internally as pulling the trigger
No it doesn't relate the firing pin as demostrated
Someone new to guns ain’t buying that gun.
No they shouldn't, nor experienced with guns either
Bahhhhhh 10 mm in a pistol.....for "bear defense"?? :)) Hmmmm...lets put a potent round in a light polymer frame gun1 YEAH!!! :) VS 44 magnum in a heavy steel revolver. Hmmmm....which one makes more sense?? :) Plus, once you're out of 44 mag rounds you ca hit the bear iwht hte revover :)) 20mm in a pistol---another $maker for the ammo/gun companies :))
So I guess you can't read all of the prevented bear attacks with a 10mm? Many instances where it works. Plus you have 16rds that load faster and have less recoil, and less time between followup shots...
Striker fired. Boo. Would never own it.
Wish FN would have made their 10mm on the FNX 45 TACTICAL DOUBLE action frame!
The lipstick rd tip dry asf
Maybe
I think you need to throw it in the river and get a Glock
You know I have a whole playlist on the g29 vs g20 vs g40
If you really believed that you were going to be in danger of a bear attack you would carry a rifle. Not a cheap piece of crap plastic fantastic. If you just have to stay compact with a handgun it should be a ruger Alaskan. 454 or .44 mag. No plastic.
Glock 10mm has been proven on bears time and time again. It's not plastic but high density polymer. Learn something my friend, it's very well documented.
You've got to get that Fudd nonsense worked out, my friend.
Yes Stan does
You know I left it alone but you piled on twice. You actually said it was polymer instead of plastic. You tried to defend a plastic gun and 10mm. Both are woefully inadequate on bears. Can a 10mm kill a bear? Sure. So can a 9mm. That's documented as well. Hell a bow and arrow can kill a bear. If you really want to stay alive I would suggest a sturdy well made gun like the ruger Alaskan in .454 or .44 mag. If you want a cheap piece of crap plastic gun don't complain when the bear mounts you and has his way with your woke ass. Keep drinking bud light and ill drink a non woke Guinness. Being a Fudd only comes with great taste and experience