Open or Fold? Let's chat OnePlus Open vs Samsung Galaxy Z Fold5
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- TEAM SGG PATREON / somegadgetguy Galaxy Z Fold 5 vs OnePlus Open? Samsung is finally facing some foldable competition in the USA. TK Bay joins me to chat about two of the most powerful mini-tablets available on the market today. We're not declaring a "winner", but let's chat about what phone is a better fit for you!
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#oneplusopen #galaxyzfold5 #folding
Watching on a Z Fold 5, while simultaneously wanting a OnePlus Open as well 😅
Sorry i don't have anything super intelligent to say. Just... i appreciate your work
That is intelligent
Good Support. A great thing to say.
Thank you Juan, I appreciate you and TK taking the times out of your schedule to provide us with your joint thoughts. Its truly appreciated.
I am a proud owner of my Z Fold 5 512 GB, my first ever foldable. Prior I was coming from a Note 20 Ultra 512 GB with 1TB SD Card. Samsung still has me because of my Samsung Buds Pro 2 and the DEX feature which works with my UPerfect X14 Wireless Lapdock. I am happy that Oneplus and the other Chinese brands like Xiaomi and Honor are releasing wider foldables. My perfect foldable is something akin to the size of Note 20 Ultra on the front display in terms of width. The One Plus Open is almost perfect (just needs ultra fast wireless charging). I am not an SPEN user and I rarely touched my SPEN on my Note 20 Ultra. Hopefully the Z Fold 6 will be bigger and wider. The small cover display while functional, still feels tight. That or we get a Z Fold 6 standard and Z Fold 6 Pro. Something stupid like that lolol. Competition is good!
Samsung still has the perks of having better third party accessories such as cases. I got a Caseborne case for my Z Fold 5 and its rugged and perfect. (don't care for it being thick). I swear if Apple releases their foldable in 2025 or something, then we will have foldables as a mainstream form factor. This will encourage more third parties and brands to keep pumping out releases and accessories. Lower priced foldables will be awesome.
Do you enjoy the ZFold 5 better than the Note 20 Ultra? I'm still debating. I own my Note 20 Ultra 512 gb with 1 tb micro SD card as well. Is the 512gb on your Z Fold enough to make up from the 1 tb micro SD card sufficient? I really want to know if I should upgrade my Note 20 Ultra for the Z Fold 5?
Love it when we get a chance to just hang out and chart like that
Same buddy! I owe you lunch the next time you trek out.
Swapped over from my Fold 4 over to a OnePlus Open and have really enjoyed what both phone have to offer so far. I absolutely get where the channel is coming from in that the Fold definitely made me WANT to open it more to be able to do the "fun" stuff. Personally, I enjoyed swiping to type on the fold front screen and felt the narrow screen made that really nice for me. The Open is a different beast in that I can do everything I want on the front screen and only really find myself opening it when I specifically want to watch certain movie or play a certain game on my inner display. The front screen does it so well that often I may just feel "too lazy" to unfold it and use that. Also love how awesome the Open feels in the hand, definitely the perfect form factor from that end as far as a foldable device goes. Oh and the camera is definitely much better.
It's funny how when you get to play with a couple options like that, you can see how WILDLY different the experience can be. Gave me a lot more appreciation for the different challenges in making a mini-tablet.
Just got the Open and no regrets. The fold is fire too though, I just wanted a wider screen and I love Open Canvas for multitasking.
Two of the coolest tech bloggers the world has ever seen in one SomeGadgetGuy video on TH-cam!
As for you, Juan & TK, I love your joint take on the OnePlus Open and the Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 5!
Hey guys, great video. I got the OnePlus Open last week and I love it. I traded my Z Fold 4 for it. I just wanted to let you know that there is a setting called "Screen switching" that lets you choose between swiping up on the front screen (default), continuing from inner screen to front screen (ala Samsung) or turning off the screen.
Hi Im on a z fold 4 and want a open what's your experience with the one plus open so far thx
@@tigagadu972it's great I love it came from a pixel 6 pro
You two guys make a great collab. This was a good conversation between
these two devices.
Should i get an open fold or wait for fold 6? i did cancel my order for google Fold because of the bad reviews i wanted to be on the google eco system since i got google nest but i pull back
Hey, the discussion focus on using the Shokz Bone phone with Z Fold. The problem with ZF5 is usb 3 connector follows out
I haven't figured out yet why people haven't started calling X/Twitter ... Xitter ... and then "Xit-ing" the self-imploding platform. LOL
Great conversation on foldables. I like the look of the OP Open, I thought about it briefly, but I just don't see myself as a foldable kinda guy. When I hold up my Pixel 7 Pro over my old Nexus 7 tablet (which at the time in 2013 I wished I could just use as my phone!) I just think to myself that it's already tablet-y enough for me. And yeah, the old N7 still works!!
The guy said "it's like a tablet that turns into an awkward double thick phone"...😂😅 👍
Two adults talk professionally about tech.. Guess what.. conclusion perfectly delivers answers ❤.. tq so much for this video.. im using fold 4 & considering either open/N3 or fold 5.. i have my answers.. thanks, guys.. need more like this😊
Awesome Video (and past videos on foldables) you two. Every video helps push me twoards a foldable being my next phone. Still a little concerned on the durability though, but seems like the foldables now are days arn't as fragile as the 1st gen.
THey're DEFINITELY getting more rugged, but I'm still not impressed with the marketing. People need to better understand, a foldable demands you change YOUR behavior to cater to the device still.
I saw i that your Z fold does not opens completely flat , so do mine. Is this a problem and something to concern ? can you make a video how much shud open
OnePlus open is a great device. Loving it so much more than my zfold.
It's exciting right! Getting actual practical competition makes this space more interesting.
Where is the other guys page. Or part one of this ?
You can find the other one in the description.
@@FAT8893 Not Juan the other guy
@@dons1643 Juan posted the link to the other video in the description. Alternatively, you can search for TK Bay.
If I'm looking for great hardware, OnePlus is the easy winner. As for software, that's on personal needs. I still keep an eye on Samsung because of DeX, which I use a lot.
My top priority is versatility, and I find Samsung to excel in this aspect. Samsung Flow and DeX offer great convenience, allowing me to seamlessly access my phone while using my Samsung tablet.
Dex is a killer feature, but it's funny that a good desktop mode actually makes the argument for a foldable a LITTLE harder. I can sit and have an immediate "double phone" sized screen experience, or I can use dex and have a proper computer experience with a little extra effort.
We're looking to phones to do more and be more, and a foldable can help reduce the need to carry a tablet, but Dex and ReadyFor can reduce my need to carry a proper laptop. I think a LOT of consumers would choose to skip the "mini tablet" if they understood better what desktop modes could bring to the table.
I have Open, I am really satisfied with everything in Open. ❤❤❤
I was like juan in fact i bought pixel tablet and oneplus 11 as i didnt think foldables were a worthy then a month an a half ago i was scrolling marketplace and snagged a fold 3 with a couple corner scraps and a perfect inner and outer display for 400 bucks. Wow color me impressed it's amazing to just automatically switch screens. I'm a tech nerd so i'm constantly using my op 11 and pixel tablet especially love casting to my pixel when it's docked. But i'm way more excepting of foldables after using one for an extended period.
The experience is critical. A lot of folks are ready to pass judgement after reading some specs, but playing with this gear is a LOT more fun and illuminating.
Hey guys I'm looking for a small phone with a versatile camera, I like the open because it's just a 6.5 inch, is there any other option with a good zoom and a small size?
This is a great video. Is there a way for oneplus open to have desktop mode to an external monitor?
Not REALLY, but you can use apps like second screen and taskbar to make the video out a little more like a desktop mode.
Just my opinion and no offense...why over support been given to One plus Open...🤔
I still like the LG V60 with the dual case.
Me too. For me, dual display still gives the best practicality and flexibility compared to foldable phones when it comes to app support. Most app devs still don't bother to optimize their apps for larger screens, including foldables.
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I am coming from an iPhone 14 Pro Max, looking to switch to a foldable, currently considering between the OnePlus Open and Samsung Z Fold 5, any recommendations on which to get ?
It's a SUPER personal decision. It REALLY matters what you think you'll want to do on a foldable. If you're wanting the better cameras, I'd lean OP, but if you want to use features like S-Pen and Dex, then Samsung is the way. In terms of hardware and screen though, I prefer the formfactor and hinge on the OP.
Great stuff guys ..
Im super excited about what OnePlus Open means to Samsung and what's next ..
I still feel that foldables are pushed forward to light up our imagination of being able to do "work on the go" and the reality for actual productivity is not fully met. I own various iterations of them and while You can certainly jot down or draw ideas, I would say that you still have to fully fledge those ideas out on a Desktop / Pc / Mac / Laptop etc. So I still feel we are "marketed" towards them as if they really do "more" when they either physically or software wise can not actually do more. Physical size limitation being the biggest productivity limitation i.e. buy a laptop. For me, they will remain a great portable snack bot for email, browsing, note taking, calculator, watch, gadget - but not for "work" or "productivity" per se. I personally wish they weren't promoted as such, they are useful and they do serve a purpose, but "productivity" is not their strength.
Weird question, could you use dex with the fold in laptop mode? What I'm thinking is it would make it a dual-screen setup. If that is too weird, then why not 🤔
There's no DeX UI for Z Fold. You still have to connect it to the second screen. Only Tab S tablets have DeX UI.
I never seen anyone talk about it, but aren't foldables in general the best for selfie takers? S23 Ultra comes up as a top selfie phone in many lists, and it does have a better front facing camera than the Z Fold 5, but doesn't the Fold win by default since it can use the rear camera as the selfie cam too?
No argument from me. I only take rear camera selfies, even when shooting blind. It really bugs me how few people will even try. The Open is now technically the best selfie shooter in North America.
When you said that when youre out and about, its mostly traditional Phone use....I find myself disagreeing. When I use my foldable out, I try to open it as much as possible even when I'm out and about.
Oh, I WANT to use it that way more, but my recommendation is still that folks should minimize that, especially if they're new to foldables. The tolerance for making a mistake on a plastic screened phone with a hinge while out and about is SIGNIFICANTLY lower than on a smaller traditional slate phone.
Look at all the folks that walk around with busted screens who still have a year left on their contract. That LITERALLY can't work with a busted plastic screen.
I have a question for both of you guys. What are your daily drivers? Mine for now is the pixel 8 pro and my side piece is the iPhone 14 Plus and the only reason I carry an iPhone is for family purposes. Plus I wanted to see what iOS and Apple had to offer a 52 and this is my first ever iPhone I tried to get the 13 pro Max but it was out of stock at the time so I settled for the 14 plus. I don't like the fact that iPhones are ESIM only.
Ooof. I'm the wrong one to ask, I tend to daily whatever I'm reviewing. Right now, my sims are in the Open and the Pixel 8 Pro. That could change in a week LOL.
@@SomeGadgetGuy my daily is the pixel 8 pro to and The iPhone 14 plus as my side side side piece 😂 family reasons
ALways a benefit being able to speak BOTH Android and iOS 😁
Dex should launch on the Z fold 5 display not only another monitor
No arguments from me.
Camera was the reason I switched to the Open from Fold5, stayed for everything else
The cameras are crazy good.
I'm digging my Moto Razr ±. It's perfect for me. 😊
Great content. one plus open feel great form factor size great. But when it comes to customer service on one plus worst had one plus for 2 month use mainly for gaming inner screen damage I though it was the screen protector turn out it damage screen took 30 days to fix when I got back the phone great sold it next day now using Samsung fold 5 don’t like the candy bar look but I get it use the inner screen and in USA better customer service more location dont think I’ll have to spend 30 days without phone
Good work like always.
Hot take but I kinda prefer the more candy-bar aesthetics to the zfold series. It makes me realize how much wasted space there are on slab phones. It can get a little cramped but I've gotten used to it. Talking about design philosophy... how do most people use tablet? I'd argue that more people are used to a long than wider paper format ala ipad mini. Sure with video I put it horizontal, but i use my fold screen moslty for reading, and the longer form factor on the fold works for me
I also think the z fold should stay thin and get taller. To improve the aspect ratio in landscape when opened. Wait, wouldn't that make landscape even worse on the cover screen?
Kinda? I think that's why I like the pixel fold better. rotate the hinge 90 degrees, and the outer display is more useful in more "phone" situations.
@@SomeGadgetGuyI can see both kind of user. I'm a reader of novels and webtoons and the taller aspect ratio of the fold is better suited for me.. But I want samsung just to scale it up by 25%.i don't want to switch the orientation when I open my fold like I would need on the pixel fold but a bigger phone overall like the huawei fold would be great.
Intelligent conversation between 2 tech nerds - Loved it!
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Fold5 spen case does looks and feel slim BUT it does make Fold5 feel heavier/ denser compared to Fold5 leather case. Because of that i put away the spen case (glad got the spen case and leather case at foc through vouchers) and fully use its leather case. Too bad none of 3rd party case make able to make case as nice as Samsung leather case.
Both phones don’t work for me.
Z fold has an ugly crease that is super visible with white backgrounds
The Oneplus Open square display causes videos to be small (with bigger black bars).
Totally agree with the Samsung's crease. I did went to try out the Z Fold5 at an authorized dealer centre. While it does finally fold flat, the crease is still visible and touchable even if it's not under direct light.
As for the OnePlus square screen, pretty much all foldable phones, Samsung included, has an almost square screen. My bigger worry is split screen since there are apps that still don't natively support it. It's one of the reason why I switched from foldable to dual display.
OnePlus should start selling through carriers in Europe or at least offer the same trade-in deals as in the US.
Hi Juan, stop interrupting "TK", give the man a chance to complete his sentences.
Anyway, thank for not "bowing down to the man, and kissing his feet" .
Keep it up.
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Oh I would have, but you didn't say "please" so now I need to interrupt TK even MORE. Oh no! It's all your fault.
Samsung should the fold the same or at most likely only slightly wider. I have the open in abox:fantastic phone especially the multitasking, but way too wide for me. The selfie camera is also crap as far as I am concerned. I bought it due to the hype but for me it's not what the hype
Nice and true talk, I enjoyed it 👌
Thx guys! Very interesting discussion 👍 Should be useful for people trying to decide on whether to switch to a foldable phone or not (like me :))
In my opinion, I'm buying a foldable smartphone to get away from a normal candy bar smartphone as much as I can, because normal candy bar smartphones are deadly boring today. Buying a foldable smartphone to just end up using it like a normal candy bar phone again, because of the outer display is the same aspect ratio as them, is not what I would see as a very well spent money, especially when you just end up using the front (outer) screen 90% of the time and 10% the inner screen. And that's not what I want for spending 1600-1800 dollars on a foldable smartphone.
The front / outer screen should be there to let us do the basic tasks and then do the more properly tasks on the inner screen. That's how I look at a foldable smartphone.
And this is why I love the Z Fold5 and why I have it. Because it's not as good as a normal smartphone or Samsung doesn't let it be a good normal smartphone, because it's supposed to be used mostly as a foldable smartphone, because of the narrow outer screen. And when you unfold the Z Fold5 to the inner screen, the Z Fold5 doesn't get so wide then that you can't hold it with one hand or can't have your fingers around the sides of the phone. And this is a good thing. With the Pixel Fold being that wide, it's not that easy to hold it with one hand while unfolded.
So, I call the Z Fold5 a mediocre normal smartphone experience, but the best foldable experience overall. And this is all fine.
And the other thing is that with the Z Fold5, you can rotate the inner screen to go more widescreen. You can't do that on the 'Open' as it's almost fully square.
But, going for a 21:9 aspect ratio (which I believe the Z Fold6 will get) on the front / outer screen is the most optimal aspect ratio for a foldable smartphone where the front display won't take away the main points of being a foldable smartphone.
And lastly. Even though I like the 'Open Canavas' feature a tiny bit better on the 'Open' over the Z Fold5's 'Multiwindow' feature, doesn't mean the 'Open' is the best foldable smartphone feature-wise in total. Here is Samsung still far ahead of both OnePlus and Google.
So, all in all, the Z Fold5 is still the most balanced foldable smartphone out there today.
The Z Fold 5 outer display ratio is 23.1:9 which is kinda silly, especially for all the reviewers that pan phones like the XPERIA for being too tall. The hinge should be 90 degrees different, which is why I prefer the overall form factor of the Duo and the Pixel Fold better.
Different strokes for different folks, but telling people "you shouldnt care if you can use it like a traditional phone" on a $1600+ mobile device that replaces their phone, is probably a weak argument for consumers.
I think there are 2 different paradigms.
A device that is still considered as phones with an added convenience of a larger inside screen e.g. the one plus open.
Or a foldable mini tablet with a minimalist outside screen e.g. z fold.
I prefer the former since I retain the familiarity of a slab phone with all the added benefits of foldable phone.
I won't buy 1 anytime soon though 😅
When is fairphone 5 review coming?
I don't think they can get it since it's an EU-only phone.
@@FAT8893 Thats not true.
@@MrVampify Only the Fairphone 4 is available in the US, but even that is a deGoogled version sold by Murena.
There was a time 3.5 inches was your typical smartphone screen! 🤔
Samsung got awesome software for foldable and normal phones in general but their hardware is so tame nowadays. I really wish they where more wild on hardware side similarly than the ones of options they put in their software.
I really miss the days where Samsung was trying to NOT look like an Apple copycat, and they were working crazy hardware experiments.
Guys, Dex is on the S23 fe. I'm not a huge Samsung fan, but I got one. It's better than the a54. Battery life is actually good. At this point, we need to think more about what people can afford. $1800 is not something blue collar people can afford to spend. If it's not in the $700 to $800 range, you might as well forget about people paying that much out of their pocket. Bring this conversation back when foldables are affordable 👍🏾
Yeah, just how folks never talk about luxury cars or sports cars. Most people drive mid sized sedans, so of course that should mean we ignore more expensive vehicles.
@SomeGadgetGuy I'm a blue collar guy and I don't drive a Tesla. 👍🏽In the immortal lyrics of Julian Casablancas from 'The Strokes'. "What kind of assh0le drives a Lotus?"
Don't expect to see horizontal foldables to be affordable. It's been five years since the first horizontal foldable phones went on sale, and it's still as expensive as ever. By a big contrast, we now see affordable vertical foldable flip phone. Remember when the original foldable Motorola RAZR 2019 cost $1,500 new? Now, the RAZR 40 (aka Razr 2023 in the USA) cost $699 new, and that's before counting in any discounts.
Google pixel fold owner here, I still think experience wise it's the best foldable.
Do you also have experienced with both the open and fold 5?
@@ompong1993 I have owned the fold 5 and sold it and my brother owns the Oneplus open
Nice! I held the fold 5 once lol, and no idea what Google and open feels like.
@@ompong1993 do you own the OnePlus open?
No, but I'm torn whether to buy it.
For that price, they should match the ultras camera
I understand your point, but the development for the folding camera is already cost more than the camera. Also, OnePlus/Oppo's camera hardware is significantly better than the Samsung's.
One Plus all Day!!!! Thanks Fellas for the video love both of y'all's Content I Sub to both channels
I like oneplus open but I’m still team fold 5, you get more software features, more software updates 4 yr, and more hardware support.
Google makes me so mad! I was really relying upon the fact that this was their first foldable device to make excuses for it, but after one plus has knocked it out of the park on their first try... Google is without excuse! I think that Google's best and brightest are dealing with the AI technology and everyone else is dealing with everything else.
What don't you like about the Pixel Fold? I own one and love it.
1Plus Open is literally the Oppo Find N3 (4th foldable from Oppo). 1 Plus just took the phone and placed their name on it and Hasselblad on the cameras. The Main OS is also completely the same. So, it's not really something they had to reseach and do on their own (uunlike Google), when they can just use their sister company's work.
To be fair the OnePlus Open is the hardware of the Find N3 so it's not quite first Gen in totality.
@@LBastone I don't like how the device doesn't completely open. I don't like the battery life. I don't like the fact that their best technology is not on the most expensive device. When it is being compared to the OnePlus open it just feels like they made a lot of mistakes that they shouldn't have. I wanted this device to have at least a couple more features that the regular pixel phone didn't have. In fairness, it may just be because all of the tech TH-camrs are hyping OnePlus that I am feeling some kinda way.
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Reality is Samsung being cheap on us charging a lot for fold 5 while competition offering better better or equal specs at cheaper prices. Samsung charging speeds terrible lack of brick to charge it. Camera specs not the best. Why does galaxy ultra 23 serious has better camera than fold 5 ?
Samsung now has to match the OnePlus in every spec including ir blaster and knock out the oneplus open 2
I am into the 7th day of owning a fold 5. I changed from the pixel p6 pro and i have absolutely no regrets.
It's basically doing double duty as a phonr and ipad mini replacement.
Oneplus dropped the ball and not lauching this with the oppo pen. Would have been TKo 😂
I'm still nonplussed why they didn't re-brand that and sell it here. They did stylus support for the tablet, but not this?
@@SomeGadgetGuy yeah very odd. Also lack of wireless charging support. Head stratcher
Why are we still calling them phones ? They stopped being just phones a long time ago
They still have 4G/5G connectivity, obviously.
@@farishanafiah8461 yes but they do so much more they are more personal digital hubs than just a phone 4G and 5G are just fourth and fifth generation wave bands
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lol, google is not even in the conversation.
We shot a WHOLE separate video. It's linked in the description.
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I disagree that normal people want to use the outside screen more when they have a foldable. It's only the tech tubers and techie people who insist that they prefer to use the outside screen when they have foldables. The purpose of a folding phone is to use the internal screen. That's my 2 cents.
Then you missed what I actually said. I didn't say people WANT to use it that way, but that my recommendation was they SHOULD use it that way. The tolerance for making a mistake on a plastic screened phone with a hinge while out and about is SIGNIFICANTLY lower than on a smaller traditional slate phone.