TROOPY CONVERSION COMPARISON. Alu-Innovations VS Alu-Cab Hercules and Alu-Cab Thor | 4xOverland
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- I do a detailed comparison between the South African products, Alu-Innovations Kronos and Alu-Cab Hercules roof camper conversions suitable for Troopcarrier, and a consideration that this might very well work with the Ineos Grenadier. I also look at the Alu-Cab Thor Landcruiser 76 conversion.
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I have a German roof conversion on my Troopy from Custom Campers and yes the Alucab / Aluinnovation variant with the easy way to pull the bed down and everything is ready is nice. BUT by stacking the bed away you have FIRST of all lots of room in the front to throw pillows and blankets away to the front and its stored. SECOND you gain lots of head room in the back. Hence two people can actually sit in the back while the roof is closed. Awesome in European rainy days. THIRD the stacking is actually not that bothersome. Takes maybe only 10s longer.
Anyways awesome to have yet another open opinion about the roof conversions from you Andrew!
I agree completely! The ability to sit in the back in comfort with the roof down is a deal maker. This is partly as a result of a slight increase in height and partly as a result of the bed setup. Setting up the bed is not a big issue. How about Alucab or Mulgo offering this setup as an option?
Your latest build is the nicest I've seen. It really is in a different league for small overlanders.
Hi Andrew, we have the Alu-cab Cannopy Camper on our hilux and love it. Agree the mattress is rubbish. We replaced it with a Sea to summit self inflating mattress and now it's very comfy. We can close the top with all our bedding and pillows inside which we are very happy about. Great video thank you.
Alu-cab indicated they could do a roof conversion when the Grenadier went to SA. Have been told the designers at INEOS have spoken to Alu-cab quite a bit.
The 76 series is perfect for 2 people.
I have mine set up for 2 with rear seats out and platform installed. Excellent vehicle for 2
Andrew, I enjoyed this video, I never thought of this conversation as an option, and I really like this…. Thank you
its long over due that you take credit for the fantastic roof tent conversion, all manufacturers should say thank you for being fearless with making that first cut into the original troopy build
We can all see, Andrew drifting from Toyota towards Ineos..... Lets see his expertise in new project. All the very best Andrew.
To be truthful, brand means very little to me. I like 4wds for what they can give me, not what badge is on the front. For example, I love Range Rovers, but the new Defender leaves me stone cold. Ineos is neither here nor there. Toyota makes some good cars, but the Land Cruiser 300 is the ugliest thing they've ever built, and the 70-series is practical but very flawed, while the Troopy is brilliant even though it shares the same flaws. See. It's not the brand that matters. And the G-Wagon is awful . . . unless its a 461 series. Best off-roader I ever owned.
Well done, Andrew. Well done!
Great video as always Andrew. Thx
That was an amazing showcase of roof top tent conversions for the 70 series. I thought they were only available for the 78 series, what a fantastic insight. I have always wondered whether/how the little awnings flapped in the breeze at night and if they were prone to keeping one awake if they did. It's a shame you can't keep all your bedding up there but it's all a compromise.
Nice review Andrew. A lady from Alu-Cab merketing dept recently had a very nice YT series of a trip she and her boyfriend did to Namibia last year using the THOR conversion on a LC 76. Very nice concepts these.
The Troopy looks absolutely gorgeous. Personally, I think it is the best looking one you have ever done.
Thanks. I think so too.
@@4xoverland Me three 👍
So much so that I am considering importing a troopie to Brazil.
Still loving the colour. It's definitely the best Troopy you've built for yourself, and heck alot better than the gold 79 Series you had prior.
Hi , what is the Name of That Color? It looks amazing!
@@TheJockledett It''s a wrap. He has an episode where he went through it all, incl. the name.
Just came buck from 3 weeks safari in Botswana with the Thour i must say that for me its the best Alu-Cab roof conversion ( and I have them all). It was completely comfortable for 2 adults, easy to open and close with load pn it.
But then you are also a shareholder in Alu-Cab and selling the products. Just for full disclosure… ;-D
Yes, so I'm not allowed to say my opinion that the Thour Roof Conversion is the best one that Alu-Cab made ? Is there more privacy information about me that you fill more comfortably for me to share? Color? Religion? Or is it enough disclosure for you ?
@@drorharel7362 woah woah, easy, mate... you clearly took that the wrong way. Lots of triggers being activated there... It's public knowledge and no private information and I thought I made it clear with my emoji that it was meant to tease. Take it easy. If you feel more comfortable I'll take the comment down. Let me know.
Very good video and very honest! Really like that. Would be awesome to extend the comparison to the Mulgo and Crusinator. I feel like all four of them have their positives and negatives. In the end I guess it is what your personal preference is i.e. Look, comfort, space etc
Andrew I need you down in Texas/ Louisiana expedition. You’re the man, thank you for sharing knowledge
when are we going?
Damn @Andrew that's a beautiful rig you've built! Looks really good!
Hi Andrew, excellent video, Thankyou!
I’ve seen a video from Jeremy @ Alu-Cab saying they are seriously looking at making a roof conversion for the Grenadier.
In terms of internal space, how big is the grenadier compared to the troopy?
I swapped out my RTT mattress with a 3 in latex mattress topper and an air mattress and it is very nice.
Andrev thanks for sharing this.
Cheers. 🍻
Andrew, I know you like narrow steelies, but dang, those wheel/tyre combo really sets your Troopy apart. It looks tough and muscular in a sensible way. Loving it.
Combine that with the finesse and ruggedness of the bullbar 😍🤤
The colour also compliments the car. Paired this with black trims and accessories, it just clicks.
Great content as always.I would love to see you work on the Grenadier
Thanks for your videos. I have a question: how to get rid of the noisy sounds from the windows in Toyota 70 series?
Such a tease seeing the Grenadier shots! It would benefit so much from being slightly longer. With the back seats gone, it doesn't has the length to sleep comfortably. And the same would apply to a shortened roof conversion with the Grenadier.
The Bronco is getting an Ursa Minor conversion. The Bronco does suffer from a limited payload though.
Just wondering if they could cut the roof on the grenadier after the front seats and achive the same as 78/76
You sold me on the "shoulder to waiste"!
Alu-cab have mentioned that they are working with Ineos Grenadier engineers directly some time ago. l do not see the switch panel being a issue in doing a roof conversion.
Would love to see how Andrew would kit out a Grenadier
You just did. And you don't nede waist money on a EGON Hub
@@jase6827 the most unnecessary product IMO
Great comparation Andrew! Pretty honest.
Regarding the roof conversion for the Grenadier, Alu Cab is working on it. They checked it and they say they can do it. Ineos has got also some cooperations in Europe with some roof conversion makers from the project beginning, I guess alucab was also in these meetings so maybe that’s why they say they will do it.
Also Ineos has got cooperation with portal axle makers from Germany. They looks to be pretty focused on make the car adaptable
@4xOverland Hi Andrew, you may have touched on this and sorry if I’ve missed it. What is your take on setting up mainly on the driver side; table, awning etc? Just curious as I’m a bit of a lemming and just continue with the ‘business’ of camping on the passenger side, only interested just thought I’d ask. Thank you👍
Thank you for the information I’m thinking I want to do something like this with a gladiator😎👍
Thanks for the informative comparison Andrew. Wondering about your thoughts on Aussie design and build of the Mulgo roof top conversion done by the expedition centre, as a comparison ? Cheers
Hands down a much better looking and functional unit with minimal to no wind noise while driving
Andrew, are you able to please provide the overall height of your new build? I’d love to know if the Alu-innovations on the troopy with mild lift would fit in my garage…
Cheers
I'd definitely go Alu-Cab for the headroom.
I think so, I like that little extra room when the roof is closed as well.
Hi Andrew, Trakka came up with the pop up bed in their Troopy conversions from around the mid 2000’s. There’s old promo pics of it about.
Good Afternoon Mr White. May I ask about the storage box and bracket you have mounted on your spare wheel? Whose product is that? I noticed the letter 'K', is it Kaymar or Kaon or something else? I want one. Cheers,
John De Antoni from Darwin
Hi Andrew. What is your opinion on the Alu Cab Canopy camper for pickup trucks like ranger or Hilux ???? Could you review one or share your thoughts
Hi Andrew, what tyres have you fitted to the new land cruiser
Looking at a Nissan Pathfinder..thoughts for light off-roading and camping?
Amazing video andrew. When sitting down in the vehicle, how much weight would you say is the upper limit to have added above your shoulders (when sitting down), if you don't want to ruin driveability?
Troopies are top heavy to begin with. But the suspension here helps a lot. I'd say, anything about 120kgs up top is going to compromise handling a lot.
@@4xoverland Thanks for that
Can I ask if you have compared these with the Mulgo pop-tops from the Expedition Centre in Sydney, which have a good reputation?
I’m very interested to see if the 70 series market will be the same as the Grenadier based on the price difference. In SA the Grenadier is priced in between the GX and VX LC300 which is substantially more than the 70 series.
Andrew what are the costs compared fitted in Australia?
If the RIB Altair seats fit in the back of the four seaters there’d be sleeping for two downstairs. But less storage. There’s another, similar, seat/bed that’s available in Aus (I’m in the UK) but I can’t remember the name. They’re good designs with sculpted seats and a flat bed.
I really want a troopy.... I wonder if I can kit one up to work out of...(electrician).
I've been drawn to the new colours for vehicles... That grey colour was one of them. Where does one get the wrap kits?
Thank you for the video. I did ask for it. Great to see you are very happy with the Alu-Innovation Kronos. I like it due to the shape and how it follows the roof line. The Alu-Cab is available in NZ, but NO Alu-Innovation dealer...😐... Maybe I can get one of the importers to ship me the Alu-Innovation Kronos in from SA with their next order, when I'm ready to do the roof conversion.
It was like xmas today! Just received my offer to purchase from the Dealer. He can now officially place my order for my Troopy. Happy days!
PS. It's still the V8 motor! 😁
what's the expected waiting time for the Troopy?
@@4xoverland Once the order is confirmed, I'll know the waiting time. In NZ, the dealers weren't able to place the order until this week. The local rumour is 24 months, but I'll post once I have my order confirmed by the dealer.
@@explorewithmarcus Hi Marcus, I am interested in getting one as well. If you are in Auckland we can probably get them imported/installed/certified together. What do you think?
I have orders mine earlier this month approx delivery date is 31st May 2024 (Brighton Toyota Melborne)
@@ganluzi Funny, I've moved from Auckland to Christchurch about 6 months ago... I know I can get the Alu-cab roof conversion from a new dealer in Wellington (I will not deal with that dealer in Auckland).
I could probably organise with the Eezi-awn distributor in Christchurch to bring the Ali-innovations roof conversion in with his next container. Let's see, maybe we can work something out to get them here.
What about the Grenadier pickup? Would be cool to fit a camper like a Vagabond Drifter.
I think it would come down to what is available [ installed ] in your area , thank you vert much for the info , .......eh
Where did you get the window shelf hanging from webbing? Is it something you fabricated?
Its part of the gull wing design. But I removed it. It didn't really serve a good function there.
I think the NCAP tests will be a scary moment for Ineos, likely not for target overlanders, offroaders and farmers, but for wider Chelsea Tractor brigade whose acceptance might be needed for the commercial success.
Hi Andrew, I just wanted to say that I had the Alu-Cab Thor conversion completed yesterday in Port Macquarie. (Second install in Australia) With a few tweaks by MidCoast 4WD who did the installation. (Adding the roof liner and side trim back in) I couldn’t be happier with the product. Due to the limited size and that I haven’t sorted a draw system out added the external ladder for now.
Hello Andrew,
A quick question, if you'll indulge me;
The sleeping platforms, and their supports, are they all aluminium? or maybe aluminum & composite?
I'm curious how they've managed weight & strength.
Thank you for another great video.
Aluminium. Simplicity of build is important. These are fairly low-tech products.
@@biilybutt9016 It's not an insult or compliment. Both are hand made in small factories in South Africa. Some aluminium parts are made from extrusions but most components and shaped and cut by hand. By my definition, low-tech.
How do I stop the flies/mozzies getting in when all st up and open?
Andrew, When are we going to get your final wrap up about this project - and the final weight of it?
soon.
Hi Andrew.
following to your review of Alu-CAb , could you please provide an review of Alu cab roof conversion in 76 series and discuss the pro & con of this new innovation please. Thank you very much in advance.
In regards to your roof rails and the rhino rack nuts, it might be worth having a look at Unistrut channel nuts to see if they fit
Could someone please design a large removable sunroof at the rear of the troopy that you then access an opening to your removable roof top tent?
What is the overall height unloaded?
Price pros & cons. Purchasing & fitting pros & cons. Are they in Australia or do we import from Africa?
One thing no one ever talks about is the tent canvas. If it gets damaged can it be replaced? Also what's the drainage like, is there risk of it going mouldy? Roof top tents are notorious for condensation forming under the mattress which leads to mould. Does this happen in the roof top conversions also?
No. And I'm not sure why condensation is not an issue with either of these products as it is with metal RTTs.
@@4xoverland moisture under the mattress is probably not an issue because the car is all a similar temp whereas a RTT on roof racks the two faces of bare metal would be much colder than the inside of the tent and so moisture collects
have you ever considered an OKA pop top camper?
It’s interesting that you like the mix of indoor and outdoor living in the troopy yet when you built the ultimate tourer it was set up for mainly outdoor living. I’m building a camper for a single cab 70 series which aims to have the indoor/outdoor living mix of the troopy. It should have more space overall and I’ll get away from having the angled wedge roof.
and that is why the Ultimate was the ultimate by name only.
Mate the single cab 79 is so so so much better than the dual cab in every way. It is a much nicer rig to drive, providing it is set up well of course and the weight sits nicely in it too. My second favourite 70 series, sits only slightly behind the 78 IMO.
I’ve had a 75, 78, 79 single, 78 and I am waiting for my final 78 (which death do us part applies 😂).
Hi Andrew, I would be interested in your thoughts on the Alucab Canopy Camper for dual cab utes. Still get the benefit of 4 seats with the upside of the camper that you can sit/stand in, as well as the rear door that holds the spare wheel. Looks like a good design.
Have they started making the camper again ?
@@ookeekthelibrarian yes, looks like Ironman and Peak Off-road are distributing them.
@@mattcorkin2519 Tar mate, I'm looking at them now.
We have had one on our hilux over a year now. Love it. Very practical and comfortable. (After we replaced the matress!)
@@garyjackson2890 The info is a tad unclear, do they have a air pressure system to keep dust out?
The mattress is always the first thing I toss out, I go to Clark Rubber and get a custom one made.
What about the weight difference between the 2 products? Weight up high is always a big issue.
my opinion it makes more sense on a van conversion is a 4 wall camper you are limited for space otherwise due to to hinge on the front..
if you wanted 4 people sleeping your would likely need it to go higher than it is at present to keep bonnet clearance as you would be extending out over the bonnet with it supported with leg
the only way to get more shoulder width clearance is likely add an exoskeleton roll cage with a portal rood
at the moment is the Grenadier even affordable. All said and done a Troopy, Land Rover, Discovery, Grenadier and many others are excellent for their own specified purpose within design constraints. It follows that modifying these vehicles also have design constraints not least GVM cargo load etc. Simply you make your choice of a canvas and paint it to your desire. The problem is when that desire is dreamland. Simply put one gallon does not fit in a pint jug.. As for the bedding/mattress issue why not simply install an inflatable mattress it can be as firm or accommodation as the pressures also could save on dimensional issues in transit. Great review and so fair to all Andrew. Surely it is what we are all about we buy a on size fits all specification then tease torture and extract from it whatever suits our requirements.... the very best of (re)engineering is often extracted that way
The bride and I test drove a 79 the other day. The bride likes the 79, but I prefer the 76 cause I currently drive a 300tdi. The problem is the 79 won't fit in my garage, and I don't want it stand outside cause Port Elizabeth's air is very corrosive. I bought my tdi in Pietersburg without any rust, and within 2 years my firewall had corroded so much you can stick your finger through it. We are a family of 4, so at the moment we're using an Echo 4 trailer. Works ok. The Mattras is also shocking....
BTW cool vid...
Thanks for the info. I prefer alu innovations shape but I'll be going with alucab. Any particular reason as to why you went with alloys over steelies ? I'm having this dilemma now and my main reason is the classic look and ability to repair the steelies. bit stuck lol
I’ve been over with my 4 previous 70 builds and I can just say there’s a weight advantage of going alloy & also when you pick your alloy you will be looking at something with a high load rating (esp if you’re doing a GVM upgrade). Gone are the days of busting Alloy wheels where the advantage of having steel (so you could flog it out in the bush with a mallet) was an advantage. IMO, it’s null & void issue and I will be going Alloy again for my 5th & final 78 build.
Part of my decision process was wanting to always carry two spares. If you run 285/75 tyres (as a minimum), your not going to bust them.
My first 78 did 150k on alloys, my 79 single has done over 450k on its alloys & I had two ther 78’s with a total of 140k…..all on alloys, all always used as travelling vehicles (not daily drivers) & I never busted a modern alloy & I love going rough….my 79 single cab went everywhere & it was HEAVY).
@@GR8Tmate Thanks for the input of your experience. I have not busted an alloy either on my travelling vehicles. I think my only hold back is the fact I like the look of the classic wheels and hub caps. I have found a set of alloys just like that but expensive.
@@nasseral-momen1463 Ain’t that always the way, everytime I see something I like it’s expensive as well 🤦♂️
Enjoy your rig 👍
@@GR8Tmate likewise. Safe travels
Alucab Canopy Camper lighting also has a top light in white and red light.
Good review on them mate. The only thing that was holding me back from doing any form of roof conversion was what it did to those incredible troop rooflines. When I found out about the Alu innovations it was a no brainer. It's hard to tell its even had a chop at all. I completely replaced the mattress with a 110mm Clark rubber one, and still shuts perfect with that and all bedding minus pillows. Keep up the in depth reviews mate 👍
Would either work on a Toyota Hiace? Could be a big market for vanlifers!
Can a inflatable Matress be used instead of the standard mattress??? Also, since you already have a air pump on board, that can be harnessed to do the job????
I suppose it could. But I'd rather sleep on a bed of nails than on an inflatable mattress.
When it comes to modifying a Grenadier above the roofline to accept a Popup roof conversion I think a cab-over floor might work.
You may have seen my Ford F-250 SuperDuty on FB with the Alucab Hercules? It was a relatively simple task and we didn’t even modify the Hercules… I just enclosed the front sleeping area by 30 inches.
Upgrading the lights and mattress was a simple task.. so was adding additional lighting and USB’s.
I’ve suspended a lightweight cargo net under the sleeping platform for the pillows which makes closing the roof with all bedding inside very easy.
Calling the Company Alu-Innovations is a tad cheeky eh… they hardly innovated the design… Alucab did 😂.
Do the two pop ups both share zip out bug screens?
I think you might have set a new colour trend with this latest build… 😎👍😎😎👍
Andrew, have you ever owned a LC71?
Just saw alu cab at the expo in flagstaff
I don't see a problem fitting the new roof over the top of the grenadier ceiling switch panel.
thank you for sharing detailed video as great watching every time
So clearly a Grenadier is soon in the offing based on closing video mutterings? A goal for a roof conversion there might be to hinge the overhead switch panel if the front sloping portion of roof really needs cutting out, else leave it in place and span over it ？ Looking at the massively reassuringly robust Grenadier roof structure in factory footage, I suspect there will be some rules anyway restricting the scale of can opener deployment to preserve its likely excellent crashworthiness and rollover strength. Characteristics perhaps worth retaining when you see soberingly what happens to old Defenders when TSHTF.
Andrew , I thought you had mentioned in a video that Ineos were considering a two seat Van . Are there any indications that is the case ? Or is it a marketing ploy.
Alu Cab Canopy Camper? Thoughts?
Hi Andrew. Just need to chat to you regarding my purchase of a Toyota Landcruiser series 76 . I'm also an ex South African living in Queensland.
Can they make a Alu-cab for a 4runner?
Hi Andrew. Can you shed some light on the box you have on top of your spare wheel. Cheers btw, your troopy looks better with each video.
Hi Andrew! Great video as always… just thought I’d note… I log on everyday to watch your videos - often refreshing your home page to see if any vids have been uploaded. This video in particular does not feature in your ‘recent uploads’, I happened to stumble across the video as I was going through this playlist. Any tips I can do so I don’t miss any of your videos? Cheers
Funny, I don't think there is a single manufacturer of roof tents or conversions such as these who supplies a comfortable matress. As it is extremely important to us to keep our bedding in the tent when we fold it (for all the same reasons that Andrew raves about during set up), we added a self inflating air matress under the uncomfortable matress supplied in our RTT by Autohome. It needs to be deflated, though, and just folding the tent does not work for this. So we use our compressor from the intake side. It only adds about a minute to the packing/leaving routine, and one way valves in the hoses make it very easy to use.
BTW Andrew, when starting with a bed that is 130cm or less wide for a couple, every additional year of age over the age of 30 requires exponentially increasing the width of the matress if you are to be comfortable. My wife and I are about the same age as you 2. We are up to a 160cm wide roof tent :-))
Mulgo by expedition centre is slightly wider and has an awesome sprung bed setup with extra storage room
What is your fuel consumption with this build on highway while cruising and what speed ?
I’ve just done 7000km trip which finished in Europe and started to worry about fuel consumption 😢 Price of gasoline is crazy here.
Awesome vehicle, the only thing I would change is the shape of the sunvisor...it looks practical but doesn't match the shape of the car at all.
It would be quite nice to have a grenadier maybe when the 7 seater comes out. Having a roof conversion. So i can use it as my daily car. To drop Kids to school. And when i need to work as cameraman like on festival. I can sleep in my car and also go offroad in my free time
I've got a BunduTec product, the BunduTop. Had it for four years. It has a 100mm mattress and even though I'm a side-sleeper, it is really comfortable. I don't care how smart or innovative the Alu-Innovations or Alu-Cab Hercules product is, if I am uncomfortable at night sleeping, I don't want it. And Andrew you are right - the Hercules is painfully uncomfortable and therefore inadequate.
BunduTec - another South African company. Seems like $ for $, SA exports more in roof-top tents than gold these days!
@@davidmuller8084 yes true. And I must tell you, it's a great product. I wondered if a motorized tent was the best way to go - it was!
If the awning doesn’t cover the top of the windows, it is useless as it doesn’t allow you to open the top canvas windows a little to allow air flow, especially when it’s raining. The Quick Pitch RTT does this perfectly and something both ALUCAB Hercules and the ALU-Innovations should look at.
The roof, think of an durable capsule
That needs to be lifted and perhaps relating to weight, you could use carbon. If not magnesium like used in some rifle chassis. Thoughts ? So you fix the capsule on the roof then cut the roof from the inside. You then add a carbon fibre base that slots into groofs on both sides.
Although I can appreciate the amount of thought and design innovation in creating these vehicles; the ever present elephant in the room is weight.I must have missed the episode where Andrew expressed his disdain for a rugged off road camper set up.A camper could stay with you over the life of several tow vehicles; plus you are free to travel away from your campsite unencumbered with a relatively light vehicle. When you reach home you have a very easily managed town vehicle whilst not having to lug x tonnes of gear around with you.Obviuosly towing over dunes etc is difficult with a trailer but so is the stress on a GVM uprated vehicle loaded to the max. If you are doing several expeditions a year a single vehicle may be the answer ;but for the average explorer I think a towing solution is better.
Just found this channel. It’s so good to see older people having a go at producing videos. Verbose sure, but interesting.
Can anyone tell me, how he always make or stay in South Africa? I am confused..
Is he in Australia or South Africa?
He is in Australia. He used to live in South Africa. He still will travel or do trips in South Africa from time to time, although none in the immediate past that I am aware of.
I’m comfortable enough with electronics the roof switches in the grenadier wouldn’t make me flinch. If they creat a camper top conversion they will have to include rerouting materials with it.
One would hope so, it's going to be fun seeing all the new kit that comes out for the Grenadier.
I'm holding onto my money till the second version of the Grenadier comes out.
Cost wasn’t talked about. Are they comparable cost wise
Reasons for awning on right hand side ?
In this case, the kitchen is on the right, so the awning is on the right. I'd be interested to know your reasons for putting it on the left. I know this is common practice, but why? There is no really good reason for it other than pulling off to the side of the road. But who in their right minds would pull over at the side of the road for a lunch? One pulls off the road, and then it doesn't matter. Or have I missed another reason?
@@4xoverland I can think of a few reasons to fit it on the left . Wind on the right hand side of the car is stronger with oncoming traffic etc ( breaking off ) it does happen to all brands . Anyhow I was more interested in your reason simply because I like the idea of it . Easy access to driver's side in rain is one that would suit myself.
@@4xoverland....if one has an unfortunate breakdown and unable to get right off....just a thought.
Wonder which company will be the first to make a conversion for the *future of overlanding?* The day you can fit a 2000km-hydro-fuelcell-Trooper-like-EV with diff locked 4x4! Hope I'm not just ashes then ....