To think if Magic didn't get aids and Larry's back didn't rage quit(or if Len Bias hadn't died and possible became a star) that could've played up until the 90s.
other interesting notes: 1. Ceballos had actually dubbed himself "the Chise" (the franchise); 2. When Magic joined the team and first began working out, it was reported that "teammates laughed at him during practice"; 3. When Ceballos "missed some games," he literally went missing, i.e., the Lakers didn't know where he was; 4. When Ceballos went missing, Magic was asked about him at a press conference. Magic's response: "Forget Cedric."
thanks for adding that, when Magic was playing and putting up pretty impressive stats for a guy who hadn't played NBA level ball for pretty much 6 years, the young impressionable me at the time thought that was just his greatness when Magic probably was going up and down telling management that he wasn't going to tolerate no playing time, players not giving him the ball every possession and him getting the first crack to score when that probably or rather safe to say was the case. What's undeniable is that Magic returning to active with LA turned their record around by about a dozen games or so. The season would have been otherwise forgettable and end in an embarrassing first round exit to maybe San Antonio as a 7th seed. Maybe they wouldn't have had to work so hard negotiating getting Kobe being at like #15 or #16. That would make an interesting video! That time also was not very exciting to be a Lakers fan and the big story coming in was that rookie Frankie King would be another gem that genius GM Jerry West uncovered yet again but not this time along with bench player Derek Strong joining them being the best thing in years to happen in recent history.
@@allclassallthetime4739 it was a frustrating season for me to watch because I felt like Magic should have been running the point, but instead, they had him posting up. It wasn't until the playoffs that the coach realized they were a better team with Magic at the one, but by then it was too late, i.e., you can't attempt a new scheme going INTO the playoffs and expect good results.
@@uncletony6210 yep, I love talking basketball! You'd have to agree potentially they were with Magic in the top 4? The Bulls were in a league of their own, but absolutely they can make a case after Chicago. Instantly adding Magic evened out the length and anticipated mismatches and I wouldn't think that the Utahs and Seattles were clear better teams out west. It wasn't their size, length and physicals that let them down, no way that being to blame.
I completely did not remember he came back in 96 until a few years ago. When I looked at some of the stats and highlights, I was shocked how well he played being out 5 years and being in his mid-30s.
i was watching the whole thing and paying attention to every detail that summer they chased Shaq. That wouldn't have been possible. Magic's $7 million salary had to be renounced in order to clear their cap. The first offer was under $100 million, then they gave away their past two previous draft picks to the Grizzlies to bring the offer to $120 million. The rules would prohibit Magic from re-signing with the team that renounced him and he would have had to wait a year to meet the free agency rules at the time, even to take some minimum salary.
@@Professional_Dirtbag_Hippie actually no not really because LeBron is now competing for another ring and magic just came back for some money and to take some ownership of the lakers. lebron joined a shit lakers team and the team magic joined was actually a really good team the year before. the 2017 2018 Lakers where garbage would take multiple season to develop to become at best average so no its not exactly the same LeBron took the L Lakers and made them a ring contender this season and planned to sstay for 4 years when he joined the lakers and majic only came back for one year that's actually a lot different then what magic did his last season.their are some similarities but the reason that lakers 2018 2019 team didn't win alot was because of injuries
@ I ment more the seasons in a vacuum not the overall results. Obviously the Lakers LeBron joined were not as good as the Lakers Magic joined, but its this all time great joining a young team an there's drama the all time great has his leadership questioned and the players seem to have issues with said all time great
I always forget Ceballos. The Lakers really had a nice team without Magic and before Shaq and Kobe, when you include Van Exel, Eddie Jones, Divac, Elden Campbell.
My favorite player is Magic Johnson and I don't think his years after 1991 would've been that good unfortunately. Maybe it was his HIV, but he slowed down considerably in that finals series against the Bulls. He was also the one leaving Paxson wide open in the 4th quarter as he was gassed. The younger Magic would easily dribble past any full court pressure and by 1988, he was relying on other players to advance the ball if he was pressured too much in the backcourt like what Dumars did.
@@DaileyShorts this doc is absolutely fantastic, has Rick Carlisle story and also lesser known basketball legends like oscar schmidt for example, u will learn his story and many others from this doc - th-cam.com/video/VLwxAW6s0aI/w-d-xo.html
We have seen the best of him. It is not like Muhammed Ali who was banned in his absolute prime. No way that Magic would have won anything at that point as a starting point guard of the Lakers.And he was not one for a mentoring role gradually taking a backseat. The Lakers would have been mired in mediocrity
@@omnivorous65 we saw his peak but watching Magic that last ‘91 season he was better than ever in my opinion. He was hitting 3s, posting up anyone guarding him on the block and could still dish at a high level
@@KDubb-ws9zc He had some serious mileage accumalated at that point and his knees were in such a bad shape that he could bend his legs anymore. He was running on some bad, bad pins. He could no longer defending anyone and definitely not point guards.That Lakers team was no longer a contender.
@@KDubb-ws9zc At that point Magic might get you through the regular season but comes playoff time being such a glaring defensive liability is getting exploited. Mercilessly.
no he wasnt, they made it in the second round last year with that core, he was the biggest name, if he played point guard and gave up the ball it would have been better, since ceballos van excel, joes could easliy score
@@zo62 Magic had the highest winshares per 48 minutes and the the highest BPM so from an analytic standpoint he was there best player. From a basic box score perspective he was averaging basically 15 points 7 assists 6 rebounds 1 steal on 86 ft% 38% 3 point 47% field goal. Nick Van Exel and Cedric Ceballos were both negative defenders according to DefensiveBoxPlusMinus. The Lakers were beating their opponents by an average of 5 points with him on the floor. Compared to only 2 points with Cedric. Magic was by far their best player for the 32 games he played.
@@zo62 Yeah but he was a bad defender, who turned the ball over and didn’t create for others, yes he could score, he didn’t provide enough scoring to justify the warts in his game. If Magic played 82 games it would’ve been clear he was better
@@Watchingvideoslikeu He was absolutely NOT better than Eddie Jones in 1996. The advanced tab on basketball reference isn't analytics. Magic was not a good defender and it showed in the 1996 Playoffs.
We the Lakers fan base would like to continue to ignore this event and erase this from our very stellar and outstanding history ... please don’t remind us Andy...
Another beautifully-edited, professionally scripted gem, Andy. Awesome. Keep up the oldies, they really highlight the legends. I only wish the rest of the hacks making NBA videos had a tenth of your talent. Thank you.
Yes, I was really surprised at this. I just watched, within the last 2 weeks or so, about how effective was his comeback. Didn't realise all the friction that followed. I suppose the best way to have dealt with it was to say to the players: Hey, we might not have picked him to be on our team BUT He is a favoured son of the Lakers, so we're going to have to get used to it. He is only going to be here for a few years max. He can show us lots of things. If we stick together for a few years, we'll be a great team. Not easy to swallow, but taking the long view is a good idea. Never mind!! +++ I really enjoyed Eddie Jones, Nick Van Exel, etc. They were very exciting to watch!
Come on man! Why did u remind me Magic came back! I like to think his last time playing basketball was the dream team. He ruined our team by coming back in 96. Ceballos was an all star and Magic held him back.
He permanently retired after he realized the players were not guarding him seriously knowing he is positive for Hiv...only M.J who didnt mind it and still strictly guarding him in his play....magic was so elated for that..
In that situation, the entire organization should have stood their ground and said "If you want to return, you adjust to the team. The team does not adjust to you. You're not the star you once were."
You would think that some of these players would have welcomed a legitimate chance at competing for at least a finals appearance, but I guess it wasn't meant to be. Besides, had Magic's comeback gone better, there's no guarantee the Lakers would have still ended up with Shaq and Kobe
I remember being so glad when he had left in the summer of 96. This video is clearly showing what type of character Johnson really was in 96. You don´t see it when sb is everybody´s darling...things like this usually surface in situations when sb is struggling keeping up to his image. Magic Johnson was used to standards that he, himself, wasn´t living up to any more, and he still went to sleep with the feeling that he was the main attraction on the team, performance-wise. If only the Lakers hadn´t made his bed so fine - he would have absolutely crashed in a situation where he really would have had to play for the team without all the other players and the system clustering around him. But that would have damaged Lakers-heritage AND he was a co-owner of the team, and money buys beauty in Los Angeles (and elsewhere). Anyway, this video is set much closer to reality than all the happy-comeback-compilations out there.
As good as he was as a teammate I would’ve been upset. When you have an owner’s mentality as a player it’s toxic to everyone and that can break a team the lakers should’ve warned magic to not act like some minority owner when on the court and when talking about his teammates
Before he was announced as HIV positive, he and the Lakers where starting to decline and most likely would have just been a top 5 in the West if Magic hadn't retired
@@ericthomas7560 And even if the Lakers had kept winning the West, I don't see them beating the Bulls in the 90s. That said, Magic's credentials don't exactly pale in comparison to Jordan's as it stands, especially considering that Jordan shortened his own career.
Imagine how social media would have reacted to a key player on one of the most popular franchises in all of pro sports, literally going AWOL on the team during the season with no advance notice 😭 As tumultuous as that 95-96 season was for the Lakers after Magic's return, they still managed to win 53 games and host a playoff series in the 1st round. Of course they didn't make it past that round against Houston because the younger players and Magic were just about completely disconnected.
As much as he started as my favorite player in 89, I didn't have the exciting enjoyment of having him come out of retirement, I just didn't have that happiness of having him back, I didn't want him to get in the way of the talent on the team, cause the season before in 94-95, the Lakers finished 5th in the West, with a 48-34 record, 15 gm improvement from the yr before that, the 94-95 team still til this day, remains my favorite nontitle Laker team, I enjoyed that Laker team, that improved team, drafted Eddie Jones, got an experience coach in Del Harris, signed Ceballos, even though for an unknown reason, I didn't accept Ceballos as a Laker, didn't want him to help us, that 95 team I enjoyed a lot, had a decent season. The following year in 95-96, Magic returns in January that yr, just refused to get excited about it, wasn't enthused with him or the news, as much as he started as my favorite player in 89, that excitement just wasn't meant to come to me, cause I was so enthused with the 94-95 talent at that point like Vlade Divac, Elden Campbell, Eddie Jones, Nick Van Exel, Sedale Threatt, Anthony Peeler, Tony Smith, George Lynch, Sam Bowie, and even Lloyd Daniels, Antonio Harvey, etc, just didn't like Magic getting in the way of that in 95-96.
But he did have an injured back and that was the weakness of 80s players. The conditioning methods, surgeries, offseason workouts and even diets were still primitive. This is what pushes Jordan a notch above Larry and Magic. People overrate the whole "killer instinct" thing with Jordan when it was his ability to stay injury free is why he was able to continue to win.
Uncle Tony He was talking about the situation with the teams. Only similarity was Magic and Jordan both being executives before coming out of retirement.
@@CavsFanDallasFanSinceFebruary lots of similarities, e.g., both returns involved locker room drama, and both teams were in fact better as a result of the return.
The 1995-1996 Lakers (pre Shaq and Kobe era) did well before magic returned,but after magic returned,things were getting crazy mid season:Cedric ceballos left the team to jet ski at the lake, Nick Van Exel was suspended seven games for shoving a ref, days later magic got suspended 3 games for bumping a ref and this was vlade divac’s final season with the lakers and was traded to the hornets via the 1996 nba draft and Shaq signed with the lakers after the 1995-1996 season...
The Lakers were irrelevant until Magic showed back up. Much like now when lebron showed up. Except that team was better than this one was before LeBron...
they'd been really floundering up to the point that Johnson joined them. Nick Van Exel was in his own words "begging" for Magic to go back active. The record before they were 6 games above .500, then turned that into a pretty elite one at a 60-%- ish record and good for the 4th seed. That wouldn't have happened without Magic joining them, but it's pretty much acceptable that Magic made everyone uneasy because of his power and influence so without Magic they'd have qualified for the playoffs with something like the year before, end up seeded 7th or 6th and match up with the Spurs in all likelihood. Can't say after saying all that that at least the season became worth watching, more for the soap opera drama and not so much having to do with actual basketball.
you know how people argue kobe or bron? if magic stayed in the league perfectly healthy there would've been an argument of magic and MJ equivalent to that, especially since their playstyles are similar. magic could've been known as the GOAT. he can play every position, highest bball IQs ever. Most versatile players ever, superstar, like think about it. he just wasnt around enough
Alternate title: How a bunch of nobodies who most people don't remember 25 years later had their entire lives ruined by the top-5 all-time legend with 5 rings who was willing to come off the bench and to help them. What a jerk.
Too many guys wanted the spotlight....& they were winning. Magic's a natural born leader...like he's going 2 take a backseat to Ceballos & Van Exel...no disrespect 2 those guys
When MJ came back to the Bulls in '95 he made a .500 team that was in danger of missing the playoffs a championship contender. They didn't win that year but they were instantly transformed. Magic coming back to the Lakers in '96 made no difference in the team at all. They didn't do any better with him than they were expected to do without him. And he brought way more drama than he was worth at that point in his career. You could make the argument that they would have had a better chance against the Rockets without him.
Imagine if Magic stayed one more season to play with Shaq and Kobe.
He’d be beefing with Shaq before the all star break and Kobe would be on the bench an extra season...
Yeah, Shaq and Kobe would be pissed af
FoshoGotFlow totally, I love when beef happens in the NBA
Imagine that, he may have been able to show Kobe how to pass
Shaq will have AIDS and Kobe HIV
To think if Magic didn't get aids and Larry's back didn't rage quit(or if Len Bias hadn't died and possible became a star) that could've played up until the 90s.
Bird quit because of his bad back
Ryuken you must be special
@@omars1982 this idiot right here
This guy said Larry back rage quit😂😂😂
And Jordan would have to get past the Celtics after the Pistons. And Larry just about won every playoff series against Jordan.
I'm not gonna be here -
Magic Johnson 2019
Video: "Magic came back and it made things toxic for his team."
Top comments: "It would've been cool if Magic stayed longer."
Guys that were not stars thought too highly of themselves.
@@libraalibaba Including a 36-year-old, out-of-shape, has-been coming off the bench more than halfway through the season.
@@shiranuiaensland1442 that same guy put up amazing numbers and was an overall better leader
@@libraalibaba "This failure failed less than that other failure."
@@handlebucket6285 I did not say he ruined them. He just failed less.
Magic Johnson's relationship with the Lakers is so interesting... It's like healthy and unhealthy at the same time.
We could have had Shaq, baby Kobe, and old man magic
Possibly ruining the Lakers 2000s dynasty even further given what Andy just covered.
His comeback season was incredible he looked like the good ol magic. Imagine if he stayed a few more yrs Kobe Shaq and Magic
I know this has probably been said multiple times but, my god, the sax music defines Andy Hoops.
Clarence exactly bruh that sax lol
other interesting notes: 1. Ceballos had actually dubbed himself "the Chise" (the franchise); 2. When Magic joined the team and first began working out, it was reported that "teammates laughed at him during practice"; 3. When Ceballos "missed some games," he literally went missing, i.e., the Lakers didn't know where he was; 4. When Ceballos went missing, Magic was asked about him at a press conference. Magic's response: "Forget Cedric."
thanks for adding that, when Magic was playing and putting up pretty impressive stats for a guy who hadn't played NBA level ball for pretty much 6 years, the young impressionable me at the time thought that was just his greatness when Magic probably was going up and down telling management that he wasn't going to tolerate no playing time, players not giving him the ball every possession and him getting the first crack to score when that probably or rather safe to say was the case. What's undeniable is that Magic returning to active with LA turned their record around by about a dozen games or so. The season would have been otherwise forgettable and end in an embarrassing first round exit to maybe San Antonio as a 7th seed. Maybe they wouldn't have had to work so hard negotiating getting Kobe being at like #15 or #16. That would make an interesting video! That time also was not very exciting to be a Lakers fan and the big story coming in was that rookie Frankie King would be another gem that genius GM Jerry West uncovered yet again but not this time along with bench player Derek Strong joining them being the best thing in years to happen in recent history.
@@allclassallthetime4739 it was a frustrating season for me to watch because I felt like Magic should have been running the point, but instead, they had him posting up. It wasn't until the playoffs that the coach realized they were a better team with Magic at the one, but by then it was too late, i.e., you can't attempt a new scheme going INTO the playoffs and expect good results.
@@uncletony6210 yep, I love talking basketball! You'd have to agree potentially they were with Magic in the top 4? The Bulls were in a league of their own, but absolutely they can make a case after Chicago. Instantly adding Magic evened out the length and anticipated mismatches and I wouldn't think that the Utahs and Seattles were clear better teams out west. It wasn't their size, length and physicals that let them down, no way that being to blame.
I completely did not remember he came back in 96 until a few years ago. When I looked at some of the stats and highlights, I was shocked how well he played being out 5 years and being in his mid-30s.
I like magic Johnson but he’s definitely one of those guys that throws everyone else under the bus... the “it’s never my fault” type.
kinda like lebron
Wobba Fett Kinda like Jordan
@@immaasshole4964 the wizards days yeah that too, he was full of himself by then
Bird used the same approach to win the '84 Finals.
@@jp3813 he lambasted them because it was true and they responded, larry never ruined a teammate's burgeoning career like what happened to ced
Feel so bad for Magic. Would’ve been so crazy to see Magic, Kobe and Shaq play together on the same team. Even if it was for only one season
Unfortunately we'd still be stuck with Del Harris for a bit longer which clearly held the Lakers back IMO.
i was watching the whole thing and paying attention to every detail that summer they chased Shaq. That wouldn't have been possible. Magic's $7 million salary had to be renounced in order to clear their cap. The first offer was under $100 million, then they gave away their past two previous draft picks to the Grizzlies to bring the offer to $120 million. The rules would prohibit Magic from re-signing with the team that renounced him and he would have had to wait a year to meet the free agency rules at the time, even to take some minimum salary.
Magic Johnson is my father's favorite player. Thank you for this Andy!
You forgot to mention Magic Johnson as NBA GM for the Lakers 2017-2019. How he left the Lakers organization this year.
No, he didn't.
Dj Akademiks Sandusky he should make a video about his time as a lakers gm
President of Basketball operations not GM. Idiot
Carl Terror there similar u know what I meant
The original LeCoach
Z Savage this is to similar to the 2018-19 Lakers
Mitch O'Brien Exactly
@@Professional_Dirtbag_Hippie actually no not really because LeBron is now competing for another ring and magic just came back for some money and to take some ownership of the lakers. lebron joined a shit lakers team and the team magic joined was actually a really good team the year before. the 2017 2018 Lakers where garbage would take multiple season to develop to become at best average so no its not exactly the same LeBron took the L Lakers and made them a ring contender this season and planned to sstay for 4 years when he joined the lakers and majic only came back for one year that's actually a lot different then what magic did his last season.their are some similarities but the reason that lakers 2018 2019 team didn't win alot was because of injuries
@ I ment more the seasons in a vacuum not the overall results. Obviously the Lakers LeBron joined were not as good as the Lakers Magic joined, but its this all time great joining a young team an there's drama the all time great has his leadership questioned and the players seem to have issues with said all time great
Great point
"How good was Eddie Jones, actually" video please!
Only player to bench kobe
Eddie and Kobe were fine, even thought everything knows on defense
Van Exel too!
The word actually is completly unnecessary.
owner of the longest lay up of all time
I always forget Ceballos. The Lakers really had a nice team without Magic and before Shaq and Kobe, when you include Van Exel, Eddie Jones, Divac, Elden Campbell.
Top 5 player of all time and could have easily been considered the GOAT if he did not have to retire early. His career numbers would have been crazy
My favorite player is Magic Johnson and I don't think his years after 1991 would've been that good unfortunately. Maybe it was his HIV, but he slowed down considerably in that finals series against the Bulls. He was also the one leaving Paxson wide open in the 4th quarter as he was gassed.
The younger Magic would easily dribble past any full court pressure and by 1988, he was relying on other players to advance the ball if he was pressured too much in the backcourt like what Dumars did.
can u make a video on how Rick Carlisle came from player to coach its a story i think more people need to know
Adam Adaxx Mavs coach?
Really? Now im curious
@@DaileyShorts this doc is absolutely fantastic, has Rick Carlisle story and also lesser known basketball legends like oscar schmidt for example, u will learn his story and many others from this doc - th-cam.com/video/VLwxAW6s0aI/w-d-xo.html
Good job Andy!!! Someone had to talk about it not many people knew about that season
Still the greatest & most important Laker of all time. Dominated his rookie year, 5 chips, & 9 NBA Finals appearences.
you should do a video on Christian Laettner. "The Guy on The Dream Team No One Knows About."
He was well known as one of the most successful and hated College players ever
@@stevenkunzer9027 the most clutch
Imagine if magic played with shaq and Kobe and they later traded for tracy McGrady like they were rumored to want to do
In 30 years it’s going to be “how good was Shai Gilgeous-Alexander actually”
8-time MVP, 7-time DPOY, 10 rings
Αιθεροβάμων relax, 10 All-Stars, Maybe a MVP. 3 rings, 2 finals mvp’s
Arguably the most famous Los Angeles sports figure of the 80's? Who else could it be?
Rarely makes anyone's top 10
Never makes the GOAT debate.
9 trips 5 rings. Magic & LeBron
Equal in my book.
its a shame the Greatest point guard ever missed 5 years of his career.
We have seen the best of him. It is not like Muhammed Ali who was banned in his absolute prime. No way that Magic would have won anything at that point as a starting point guard of the Lakers.And he was not one for a mentoring role gradually taking a backseat. The Lakers would have been mired in mediocrity
@@omnivorous65 we saw his peak but watching Magic that last ‘91 season he was better than ever in my opinion. He was hitting 3s, posting up anyone guarding him on the block and could still dish at a high level
@@KDubb-ws9zc He had some serious mileage accumalated at that point and his knees were in such a bad shape that he could bend his legs anymore. He was running on some bad, bad pins. He could no longer defending anyone and definitely not point guards.That Lakers team was no longer a contender.
@@omnivorous65 he did look a couple steps slower. His game at that point looks more like he was beating guys with his mind ala Larry Bird
@@KDubb-ws9zc At that point Magic might get you through the regular season but comes playoff time being such a glaring defensive liability is getting exploited. Mercilessly.
It's funny because Magic was still the best player on the Lakers. Even in this season.
no he wasnt, they made it in the second round last year with that core, he was the biggest name, if he played point guard and gave up the ball it would have been better, since ceballos van excel, joes could easliy score
@@zo62 Magic had the highest winshares per 48 minutes and the the highest BPM so from an analytic standpoint he was there best player. From a basic box score perspective he was averaging basically 15 points 7 assists 6 rebounds 1 steal on 86 ft% 38% 3 point 47% field goal. Nick Van Exel and Cedric Ceballos were both negative defenders according to DefensiveBoxPlusMinus. The Lakers were beating their opponents by an average of 5 points with him on the floor. Compared to only 2 points with Cedric. Magic was by far their best player for the 32 games he played.
@@Watchingvideoslikeu dude numbers don’t mean a whole and statistics they had a flow and they were disrupted
@@zo62 Yeah but he was a bad defender, who turned the ball over and didn’t create for others, yes he could score, he didn’t provide enough scoring to justify the warts in his game. If Magic played 82 games it would’ve been clear he was better
@@Watchingvideoslikeu He was absolutely NOT better than Eddie Jones in 1996. The advanced tab on basketball reference isn't analytics. Magic was not a good defender and it showed in the 1996 Playoffs.
We the Lakers fan base would like to continue to ignore this event and erase this from our very stellar and outstanding history ... please don’t remind us Andy...
So he's a basketball version of Nash and Hogan.
Always giving high quality content , thank you
Another beautifully-edited, professionally scripted gem, Andy. Awesome. Keep up the oldies, they really highlight the legends. I only wish the rest of the hacks making NBA videos had a tenth of your talent. Thank you.
Hi Andy Keep up the grind u da GOAT
Yes in 1996 I was 6 when he made his comeback what a memory
Do a vid about Magic & Bird post NBA life (coaching, president of basketball operations, etc)
This changed my whole opinion about magic.
LaBum Blames How?
@@jazzcritic3587 he just ruined the franchise back n forth, what do you mean how wtf lol he a fuckn public figure with a fake ass smile.
Yes, I was really surprised at this.
I just watched, within the last 2 weeks or so, about how effective was his comeback.
Didn't realise all the friction that followed.
I suppose the best way to have dealt with it was to say to the players:
Hey, we might not have picked him to be on our team BUT
He is a favoured son of the Lakers, so we're going to have to get used to it.
He is only going to be here for a few years max.
He can show us lots of things.
If we stick together for a few years, we'll be a great team.
Not easy to swallow, but taking the long view is a good idea.
Never mind!!
+++
I really enjoyed Eddie Jones, Nick Van Exel, etc.
They were very exciting to watch!
@1- 20 - 7 LG nigga fuck you bitch ass keyboard warrior
Come on man! Why did u remind me Magic came back! I like to think his last time playing basketball was the dream team. He ruined our team by coming back in 96. Ceballos was an all star and Magic held him back.
dvon1097 totally right
He permanently retired after he realized the players were not guarding him seriously knowing he is positive for Hiv...only M.J who didnt mind it and still strictly guarding him in his play....magic was so elated for that..
Good one keep up the good work
Andy Hoops an amazing video yet again Andy and yes it was a huge comeback for Magic Johnson , couldn’t script it any better
In that situation, the entire organization should have stood their ground and said "If you want to return, you adjust to the team. The team does not adjust to you. You're not the star you once were."
We're talking about an organization which paid Kobe so much in his twilight years that the salary cap was ruined.
Man I love your vids man I can watch them all day keep it up bro
You would think that some of these players would have welcomed a legitimate chance at competing for at least a finals appearance, but I guess it wasn't meant to be. Besides, had Magic's comeback gone better, there's no guarantee the Lakers would have still ended up with Shaq and Kobe
That Nick van exel pass was sick,,
I remember being so glad when he had left in the summer of 96.
This video is clearly showing what type of character Johnson really was in 96. You don´t see it when sb is everybody´s darling...things like this usually surface in situations when sb is struggling keeping up to his image. Magic Johnson was used to standards that he, himself, wasn´t living up to any more, and he still went to sleep with the feeling that he was the main attraction on the team, performance-wise.
If only the Lakers hadn´t made his bed so fine - he would have absolutely crashed in a situation where he really would have had to play for the team without all the other players and the system clustering around him. But that would have damaged Lakers-heritage AND he was a co-owner of the team, and money buys beauty in Los Angeles (and elsewhere). Anyway, this video is set much closer to reality than all the happy-comeback-compilations out there.
Magic The Diva Johnson.
As good as he was as a teammate I would’ve been upset. When you have an owner’s mentality as a player it’s toxic to everyone and that can break a team the lakers should’ve warned magic to not act like some minority owner when on the court and when talking about his teammates
Imagine being pissed off that you have to play with Magic Johnson lmao
I love how every video has the same two songs :D Really catchy. What are their names?
My dad consider this guy as the GOAT and he would always tell me how he could have eclipsed jordan if he never had AIDS
Before he was announced as HIV positive, he and the Lakers where starting to decline and most likely would have just been a top 5 in the West if Magic hadn't retired
@@ericthomas7560 And even if the Lakers had kept winning the West, I don't see them beating the Bulls in the 90s. That said, Magic's credentials don't exactly pale in comparison to Jordan's as it stands, especially considering that Jordan shortened his own career.
Imagine how social media would have reacted to a key player on one of the most popular franchises in all of pro sports, literally going AWOL on the team during the season with no advance notice 😭
As tumultuous as that 95-96 season was for the Lakers after Magic's return, they still managed to win 53 games and host a playoff series in the 1st round. Of course they didn't make it past that round against Houston because the younger players and Magic were just about completely disconnected.
Magic Johnson is my favourite player of ever
2:46 Get it? A 𝓶𝓲𝓷𝓸𝓻𝓲𝓽𝔂 owner 😭😭
Ceballos was not traded right after the season. He played with shaq and kobe briefly and was traded for Robert Horry.
I saw a post on Instagram where they talked about this
As much as he started as my favorite player in 89, I didn't have the exciting enjoyment of having him come out of retirement, I just didn't have that happiness of having him back, I didn't want him to get in the way of the talent on the team, cause the season before in 94-95, the Lakers finished 5th in the West, with a 48-34 record, 15 gm improvement from the yr before that, the 94-95 team still til this day, remains my favorite nontitle Laker team, I enjoyed that Laker team, that improved team, drafted Eddie Jones, got an experience coach in Del Harris, signed Ceballos, even though for an unknown reason, I didn't accept Ceballos as a Laker, didn't want him to help us, that 95 team I enjoyed a lot, had a decent season. The following year in 95-96, Magic returns in January that yr, just refused to get excited about it, wasn't enthused with him or the news, as much as he started as my favorite player in 89, that excitement just wasn't meant to come to me, cause I was so enthused with the 94-95 talent at that point like Vlade Divac, Elden Campbell, Eddie Jones, Nick Van Exel, Sedale Threatt, Anthony Peeler, Tony Smith, George Lynch, Sam Bowie, and even Lloyd Daniels, Antonio Harvey, etc, just didn't like Magic getting in the way of that in 95-96.
0:54 is it Reggie Theus??
Look Here Look Listen! @6:01 Van Exel is the Deez Nutz guy! Big Ups!
95-96 Gary Payton and the Sonics won the NBA West and lost in the 96 Finals to Michael Jordan and the Bulls.
I remember when this happend. I thought Magic was so hypocritical when he bashed Van Exel but did the same thing.
goodfellabeats He still had a great comeback story teammates r ungreatful u have one of the goats and u dont want to play with him
Great video. Miss Magic. Better NBA back when it meant something. Anything on Nick Van Excel or Eddie Jones. Thanks
Imagine if Larry Bird had no injured back. He played with Radja, Walker and Rookie Pierce.
But he did have an injured back and that was the weakness of 80s players. The conditioning methods, surgeries, offseason workouts and even diets were still primitive. This is what pushes Jordan a notch above Larry and Magic. People overrate the whole "killer instinct" thing with Jordan when it was his ability to stay injury free is why he was able to continue to win.
Good job Andy 👍.
I was born that day when Magic made a comeback but in a different year
Congratulations
1997?
@@Jimmy_Hopkins15 1999
@@Hubchie Thanks bro
@@adriandiaz4744 ok
Magic was trying 2 show them the way but the kids couldn't get over everything being about Magic...especially when they were winning.
Ahhhh, so Magic completely ruins teams when he's not in his prime playing for them
they were clearly better with him.
They were better with him but everyone were in they're feelings. Call it what it was he had HIV and they didn't really like that.
I didn't like Dell Harris because he held Kobe back.
I mean they were better with him lol.
@@robbereal1982 I think you misread my comment.
Magic coming out of retirement with the Lakers was nothing like Jordan with the Wizards 😂
it was pretty much exactly like Jordan with the Wizards, i.e., they were both approximately 80% of their old selves.
Uncle Tony He was talking about the situation with the teams. Only similarity was Magic and Jordan both being executives before coming out of retirement.
@@CavsFanDallasFanSinceFebruary lots of similarities, e.g., both returns involved locker room drama, and both teams were in fact better as a result of the return.
Bro can you make a story about the 2000-2004 los angeles lakers?the story about shaq and kobe thanks bro.
Plz do a Who good was Chris Mullin. Love him as a player, veey underatted.
Paris Tsiakalos on the tmc warriors?
Love your vids man. Keep me coming!
U should do how good was jermaine O’Neal
rice farmer he did i think
rice farmer he did already
First i love this videos ❤️❤️❤️
The 1995-1996 Lakers (pre Shaq and Kobe era) did well before magic returned,but after magic returned,things were getting crazy mid season:Cedric ceballos left the team to jet ski at the lake, Nick Van Exel was suspended seven games for shoving a ref, days later magic got suspended 3 games for bumping a ref and this was vlade divac’s final season with the lakers and was traded to the hornets via the 1996 nba draft and Shaq signed with the lakers after the 1995-1996 season...
One of the best goat's
I cracked up so loud at the fact he bumped a reff literally just a few days later 🤣
I'm glad Magic Johnson retired before the Shaq & Kobe Era in Los Angeles. Magic would have been a detriment and a distraction to the team.
The Lakers were irrelevant until Magic showed back up. Much like now when lebron showed up. Except that team was better than this one was before LeBron...
Good video bro keep up the good work
I still think Nicholas Batum is the GREATEST player of ALL-TIME
No its Anthony bennett
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You should've mentioned his time in Sweden and Denmark. I think he played like three games in Sweden.
they'd been really floundering up to the point that Johnson joined them. Nick Van Exel was in his own words "begging" for Magic to go back active. The record before they were 6 games above .500, then turned that into a pretty elite one at a 60-%- ish record and good for the 4th seed. That wouldn't have happened without Magic joining them, but it's pretty much acceptable that Magic made everyone uneasy because of his power and influence so without Magic they'd have qualified for the playoffs with something like the year before, end up seeded 7th or 6th and match up with the Spurs in all likelihood. Can't say after saying all that that at least the season became worth watching, more for the soap opera drama and not so much having to do with actual basketball.
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you know how people argue kobe or bron? if magic stayed in the league perfectly healthy there would've been an argument of magic and MJ equivalent to that, especially since their playstyles are similar. magic could've been known as the GOAT. he can play every position, highest bball IQs ever. Most versatile players ever, superstar, like think about it. he just wasnt around enough
Lakers after magic retired the first time were surprisingly not horrible solid team
Am I the only one catching a LeBron vibe here 🤷🏾♂️
Nope. I feel it too. This is definitely LeBron behaviour.
Lol no
Do your homework, he also played exibition games with former nba and college players after 96'.
Lebron's 2018 2019 season was pretty similar
There was a player in the 90s who was named Ervin Johnson. He played with the Nuggets. He said dont ever call me Magic.
Nobody did. lol
He wss forced to retire with just 31 years ... He could be bigger
Alternate title: How a bunch of nobodies who most people don't remember 25 years later had their entire lives ruined by the top-5 all-time legend with 5 rings who was willing to come off the bench and to help them. What a jerk.
Too many guys wanted the spotlight....& they were winning. Magic's a natural born leader...like he's going 2 take a backseat to Ceballos & Van Exel...no disrespect 2 those guys
It was like Johnson was the mainstar in the Lakers in the 90s. Kobe Bryan was the mainstar for the Lakers in the 20s
Tragic has his ways of poisoning things around him
He was never able to retire from the game on his own terms and it haunted him for a very long time
Great content bro iam new fan of basketball
The Lakers should have traded the whole damn team. Just Magic by himself would be special.
If Magic stayed on the Lakers with Shaq and Kobe, oh boy that would've been nasty even though it's no longer his team and already out of his prime.
And Michael Jordan was having his best season ever and the GOAT team was born followed by the Warriors.
its pronounced cebbayyos not Ceballos
if that's true, NO ONE pronounced it that way during his entire career.
When MJ came back to the Bulls in '95 he made a .500 team that was in danger of missing the playoffs a championship contender. They didn't win that year but they were instantly transformed. Magic coming back to the Lakers in '96 made no difference in the team at all. They didn't do any better with him than they were expected to do without him. And he brought way more drama than he was worth at that point in his career. You could make the argument that they would have had a better chance against the Rockets without him.
22-10, you people are stupid.
I never knew Leslie Nielsen was a NBA coach.