Big thanks to both Tom for putting me through to Dale, you guys saved me on this one! Here’s another video about strapping! th-cam.com/video/48q1D5P82CE/w-d-xo.html
Out here 25 yrs pulling step and skateboard, I've always called it "belly wrap" or "choke strapping". Belly strap: strapping over a layer of product, like pipe. Belly wrap : strapped entirely around the product. It is a very good way to secure round bar, bundles of tube. Stay safe brother
Learned something new! I'm looking into getting into flatbedding but I'm trying to learn before I make the switch. Awesome videos, you're really helping a lot! Thank you!
Brian I always learn something from your videos and the experience you have learned as a driver and owner operator, so thanks again brother you are a big help to so many.
I believe it’s called a choke straps. Usually do the same thing on a rebar load. And yes I hate 8 ft but I will tarping back to back 8 ft loads ugh lol. Great information.. be safe and have a blessed day
@@DrivenTrucking , a tip if you are checkering pipe or things like that. Put your straps on the deck letters down and backwards. Put the chain on the winch side and the open end on the other side. Put the a row of bundles on then take the chain side bring it across. Then take the open side bring it across. Saves time not feeding straps under the load. Keeper safe, yep been hauling flatbed in Canada and USA ten years coming up. Always something new to haul.
Had this exact load shift on me...on the interstate. Had to use portables on the load and then use the wench straps to secure it to the deck. I keep 6 portables in the box for this type of situation now.
The day you stop learning is the day to hang up the keys... well put! I love learning efficient techniques with the "work smarter not harder" mindset (as well as C.Y.A. and K.I.S.S.). Keeping my health and safety, as well as everyone else's first and foremost. No one ever got fined for having an extra strap or chain than minimum requirement. I got to tarp rebar tomorrow morning...blech!
I know that’s right! I’m always looking for a way to work smarter and not harder. That extra strap or chain could save you or another family’s life and that’s how I try to look at it. Good luck with that rebar
Gut wrap. Usually use it for round objects that may want to roll sideways or tip over like a pipe or excavator booms, or bundles that may want to separate like rebar or bundled pipe. Also like to use it for trailer tongues to keep them centered. An improved technique that i like to use is to put a winch on both ends of the strap so you can control the tension on both ends of the strap( I use straps that got damaged near the hook for this. I cut the hook end off so I have an endless strap. You could also feed the end of a good strap through a winch, wrap the load and feed through a winch on the other side and just secure the excess strap and hook)
When I worked in the oilfield that was called Belly wrapping it is used in pipe from shifting side to side like you said that one is just higher from the trailer keep up the good work and always keep the shiny side up and the rubber side down
Dang dude. I dropped off a load of steel pipe in Owatonna MN this morning and had to bounce over to Roseville MN to pickup some steel plates. Every load ive had last week and this week so far have had to be tarped. I know exactly how you feel about those long days. Thats Flatbed life.
Over my years of flatbed I have learned that technique works best for that type of application also I wanted to let you know that strap technique is called AN "A" frame strap because of the shape looks like an A similar to butterfly straps on slinki coils awesome videos.
Us old guy as you call us some of us call that butterfly strapping offended used on bad slenkewire.keep it up you will be best of the best. Keep trucking wop wop$$😎😎😎🅰️✔
Not old just refined 😬 I love learning and always have my ears open. I like calling it a butterfly strap I think I’ll roll with that. Thanks a lot Joey 👍🏻
I’m new to flatbeds.... love the channel.... I do the western 11..... very helpful vids my company doesn’t teach us much at all just enough to get by . Very helpful and keep up the vids
I heard that if you increase the horse power of the engine the mpg can be as high as 12 on empty and about 9 on full load. Probably have to find a truck "hacker" to go into the system and change the settings.
I've only ever pulled pneumatic tanker and van so I don't know much about flatbedding but man you sure share some great tips and tricks 👍🏻👍🏻 Also when you talk about your fuel mileage do you say what your ECM is telling you or are you sharing actual milage divided by gallons?
Thanks nasty, I appreciate it. For about six months I compared my trip amateur on my dash to actual fuel mileage divided at the pumps and every single day for six months, they were never more than .1 miles per gallon off so now I just trust my ECM
What would help is rubber mats or wide strips of rubber between the top and bottom levels of the shelving racks. Metal on metal ain't gonna work and the racks will move for sure.
Really Im first!! hot damn!! Great Video Man, Look forward to seeing what crazy madness is in store in the future!! Stay safe and keep the shiny side up!
Great strapping yet I think that middle one will work loose. As you say the winch side will come up tight an because the strap makes four hard turns it might just pull three of the four turns. Did it move any? Very informative. Good video!
Thanks a lot! The load didn’t move an iota LOL, what was crazy is my straps never even worked loose. I checked them probably a good five times but every time there was the same tension. No I did not check the ratchet strap I put in the middle as I couldn’t get to it under the tarps but I believe it had the same tension as when it started.
Wait until you are 76, tired is my middle name, the straps I had years ago were 2 inches wide, only used them to help keep tarps from flying around. Went onto rgn no straps used, that bow tie is a real good way, it's great you pass that on to others, pull toy here.
Hauled a load of bundled cables used for concrete slabs. They look like slinkies laid across the trailer. You do the same bowtie tying the coils together alternating directions on straps. This keeps them straight and keeps them from shifting side to side and front to back. The only thing you have to be careful on hauling those pallet stands is to watch the edges and use edge protectors when bowtieing.
You should do choke chains on the the front and back just like a girder. Chains take care of un stability and stop loads from going thru your sleeper. You should always have a chain on each corner just like a container on a flat bed. Just relying on straps is dangerous. Those straps will cut, one at a time until half of your belts are gone. Should have a chain on all the corners
Lol, thanks bud 👍🏻👊🏻 I see your other comment and I will get to it when I can put some thought to it. I appreciate your comments and your words of encouragement, thank you very much Jerry
Thanks for the video. I'm having issues at throwing straps when the load is high. My shoulder is about to let go. Any idea on how to send them straps up high and easy?
I was wondering how tall the cargo was? would it fit in a conestoga? our company calls it a Reverse Belly Wrap but bow tie works too. keep making the vlogs, very helpful to rookies like me, thank you
Thank you so much I’m glad you enjoyed them. I enjoyed making them. The blue shelving would not have fit under a Conestoga but the orange pieces in the back were actually delivered by a Conestoga that morning. It was a full load of them though.
I think using 4” webb winches on each end of the strap would even the tension of the straps . Securing this style load could be in a direct tie-down method .
Thank you for this im new to trucking and have been watching alot of your videos and they all have been a big help i hope to pass ya down the road sometime man
not sure how long your straps are but if you do it so that twist in strap is on top it will hold it very secure hard to explaine …. for example if it was say steel pipes lay the strap on the bed of trailer first then bring it up over the top on other side loop it under the strap then take hook back to side opposite winch you will end up with a twist on the top that pulls the load together as well as pulls it down will not move at all hope I have explained that ok ( 20 years driving in Australia )
Belly wrapping is what that’s called bo. Looks good bo! Stay safe out there. Hope to run into ya one day out here. I drive for PGT and been thinking about becoming a lp driver and would love to talk to you about it. Later bo
i thought choking it would be better with load chokers i think they only suited for 50 mm wide straps not 100 or 150 mm wide straps not belly looping and should have you used carpet pieces on them corner edges of the load or edge protectors too??
I run a 30 Ft. hot shot trailer but have hauled that shelving. The plastic banding the shipper uses is garbage and have heard that other drivers lost lost loads from the same shipper because of them. I'll remember your bow ties the next time! The only tarps I carry are 8 footers and it's a real PITA when your load is just a 1/2" steel plate or a few boiler tubes. I rarely get to use anything but the top rows of D-rings. My next tarps will still be 8 footers with the top D-rings 7 feet apart instead of 9 feet. (can't afford to carry the extra weight on a non-CDL rig).
Well that was definitely a learning opportunity thank you for your videos . 1 question if your winches are on 1 side do you think adding 2” ratchet straps to the opposite side have the same effect as your double winches?
I know I learned something LOL. Yes if you can set the ratchet up the same way as I set up that strap, then it would work exactly the same, it definitely takes two though
Awesome video, definitely learned something. I'm currently in flatbed training and will be driving only in Canada. I'm just wondering about the straps hooked over the rails, like they teach us it is illegal to have straps hooked over the rails. Is it allowed in the US? Really enjoy watching your videos. 👍💪
Regarding those 8 foot drop tarps... It's been suggested to me to instead invest in 2 tarps with 6 foot drops, and 2 foot extensions for each. Do you have an opinion on that set up?
I was actually just talking to a gentleman about extensions. I much prefer 6 foot drops as I don’t use my eight footers very much so as long as it is cost-effective I would say go for it.
@@DrivenTrucking yup... My first trainer mentioned it to me when I recently expressed interest in coming back over to flatbed (pulling food grade liquid bulk currently, but planning to buy my own truck by the end of the year and head to mercertown). It sounded like a solid idea instead of having more tarps to lug around, but hadn't heard it mentioned anywhere else
NarcolepticLTD Yes I had no idea this was an option either but it seems to make good sense as long as they work well. But I have no idea if they actually work well or not
Good job. That’s a unique load but who’s to say you have to go all the over with those 30ft straps? Go through the bottom of the top stack instead of over. Make sense? It’s what I woulda tried anyways but the X from moving... good job
We call it X-shaped or some older drivers call it triangular. I'm sure either, but there is the bowtie style we know about is likely to harness the top to the bottom or lower levels well for safety reasons too. Thanks alot anyway.
Chokers go from one side over the top, then under, and then back over the top to the opposite side, putting a stranglehold on the load. Alternate left to right and so on. I would never use your "bowtie." DOT has a small handbook covering this in detail, as well as Belly securement, and X securement.
I've installed that very rack for 25yrs,,, unloading 100s of trailers of that very product,,, not once have I seen more then 2 belly straps and 4 to 6 straps over the top bundle!!!
Hauled many a load of new and used pallet racking. Never had any of it shift. New should be tightly steel banded. Used can be shaky...lay 2" straps on deck and wrap around the bundle, not to the trailer. Then same as new or used...two straps across bottom of bundle close to deck, fasten to deck. Two straps over top of bundle. Two straps across bottom of upper bundle. Then two straps across top of top bundle within first four feet of end toward tractor, same at the rear of trailer....then fill in every 8 to 10' max across the top. Winches on both sides of trailer and alternate. Instead of winding all the excess strap around winch drum...pull excess thru drum, fold over in 18" or so lengths, tuck behind rubrail and pinch with what your're winding around drum....4 wraps around drum is sufficient and easy to tension straps. Doing them like that makes it easy to handle when they are wet and super easy to undo when frozen....much better to shake them undone rather than fighting to turn winch with frozen strap wrapped around it. Did this since 1985 all over USA and Canada...no issues. Any straps going more than 4' above the deck need to at least a single twist in them....keeps them from vibrating. A vibrating strap will do a lot of damage to freight, make a lot of noise, and can cut itself on all but the smoothest edge. Straps do deteriorate from road salt and uv rays of the sun...store off trailer when not in use. Replace all in the Spring.
Another great video brother. Ofcourse I’m not in the flat bed world but it’s nice learning about different sides of the industry. Never know where you’ll end up, especially when special offers pop up
They moved because those beams are painted and u didn't have your first lower strap close enough to the front, u needed 3 lower straps and 8 top straps positioning the straps on the load is the key I've hauled several of those types of loads, always put your 1st lower strap no more than 2ft from the nose 2nd lower strap in center of the load and 3rd lower strap 3 to 4ft from the rear, 1st top goes around 6inches in front of lower strap and 2nd top goes 1ft behind the 1st lower strap the 3rd top strap goes 2ft behind the 2nd top strap and the 4th top strap split the difference between the 2nd lower strap and the 3rd top strap the 5th top strap goes 2ft from the rear and the 6th strap goes 1ft back from the 3rd lower strap the 7th strap goes 6inches back from 2nd lower strap and the 8th split the difference, I used to love strapping loads but no tarping for me lol
The good thing about 8 ft tarps is the tarping speed. I can tarp most loads in 20 mins. Thats tarps in the rack to pulling out the shipper. Plus, you have the perfect workout equipment for fireman runs and clean and snatch.
F 8ft tarps. Tarps in general suck and you really have to a crap load of work for next to nothing. Only time tarping is worth it if you’re an O/O period
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Big thanks to both Tom for putting me through to Dale, you guys saved me on this one! Here’s another video about strapping!
th-cam.com/video/48q1D5P82CE/w-d-xo.html
Cool.. thanks you..
Out here 25 yrs pulling step and skateboard, I've always called it "belly wrap" or "choke strapping".
Belly strap: strapping over a layer of product, like pipe. Belly wrap : strapped entirely around the product. It is a very good way to secure round bar, bundles of tube. Stay safe brother
Thanks just become a flat bed driver after driving reefer for 17 years like you said we never stop learning
Learned something new! I'm looking into getting into flatbedding but I'm trying to learn before I make the switch. Awesome videos, you're really helping a lot! Thank you!
Solid choice my man, I do hope my videos help 👍🏻
It sure help we all learn something every day from every single person
Brian I always learn something from your videos and the experience you have learned as a driver and owner operator, so thanks again brother you are a big help to so many.
Thank you so much brother, I greatly appreciate the words 👊🏻
I believe it’s called a choke straps. Usually do the same thing on a rebar load. And yes I hate 8 ft but I will tarping back to back 8 ft loads ugh lol. Great information.. be safe and have a blessed day
Good to know! Good luck with the tarps and take it easy Charles 👍🏻
@@DrivenTrucking , a tip if you are checkering pipe or things like that. Put your straps on the deck letters down and backwards. Put the chain on the winch side and the open end on the other side. Put the a row of bundles on then take the chain side bring it across. Then take the open side bring it across. Saves time not feeding straps under the load.
Keeper safe, yep been hauling flatbed in Canada and USA ten years coming up. Always something new to haul.
I learned something. I don’t want to be a flatbed driver. LTL for Fedex Freight for 23 years. Be safe brother
Lol, Sometimes I wonder why
Driven Trucking I feel you brother. Too much work for me, I’m spoiled 😂
Shoestring Trucker LTL lol 👍🏻👊🏻
Had this exact load shift on me...on the interstate. Had to use portables on the load and then use the wench straps to secure it to the deck. I keep 6 portables in the box for this type of situation now.
The day you stop learning is the day to hang up the keys... well put! I love learning efficient techniques with the "work smarter not harder" mindset (as well as C.Y.A. and K.I.S.S.). Keeping my health and safety, as well as everyone else's first and foremost. No one ever got fined for having an extra strap or chain than minimum requirement. I got to tarp rebar tomorrow morning...blech!
I know that’s right! I’m always looking for a way to work smarter and not harder. That extra strap or chain could save you or another family’s life and that’s how I try to look at it. Good luck with that rebar
Thanks Brian! I’ve been saving all the tarp and securement videos in a playlist to refer back to as I start running into different loads. Great video
That’s awesome Leo! That helps us both out 👍🏻👊🏻
Gut wrap. Usually use it for round objects that may want to roll sideways or tip over like a pipe or excavator booms, or bundles that may want to separate like rebar or bundled pipe. Also like to use it for trailer tongues to keep them centered.
An improved technique that i like to use is to put a winch on both ends of the strap so you can control the tension on both ends of the strap( I use straps that got damaged near the hook for this. I cut the hook end off so I have an endless strap. You could also feed the end of a good strap through a winch, wrap the load and feed through a winch on the other side and just secure the excess strap and hook)
That’s an excellent tip, thank you
When I worked in the oilfield that was called Belly wrapping it is used in pipe from shifting side to side like you said that one is just higher from the trailer keep up the good work and always keep the shiny side up and the rubber side down
thanks for your lessons... i learn every time i see your videos.
Thanks Brian from Edmonton, Alberta 🇨🇦🇺🇸
Yes indeed...this is very helpful...it's always good to learn new things...and I still use those tarps...we call it gift wrapping...lol...
Dang dude. I dropped off a load of steel pipe in Owatonna MN this morning and had to bounce over to Roseville MN to pickup some steel plates. Every load ive had last week and this week so far have had to be tarped. I know exactly how you feel about those long days. Thats Flatbed life.
Yes sir! Hurry up spring LOL
The cadence of your voice... you talk like Christopher Walken. Haha. It's awesome
I need more cowbell!
Over my years of flatbed I have learned that technique works best for that type of application also I wanted to let you know that strap technique is called AN "A" frame strap because of the shape looks like an A similar to butterfly straps on slinki coils awesome videos.
8 ft tarps are awesome...cut tarp time immensely and double as workout equipment.
Great information. I wish I would have watched it before I loaded my current load!
Us old guy as you call us some of us call that butterfly strapping offended used on bad slenkewire.keep it up you will be best of the best. Keep trucking wop wop$$😎😎😎🅰️✔
Not old just refined 😬 I love learning and always have my ears open. I like calling it a butterfly strap I think I’ll roll with that. Thanks a lot Joey 👍🏻
Good Job, I learned something! Thank you
Woohoo! Thanks Craig!
I've heard choke stap.... But bow tie would work too!
Good video!
I’m new to flatbeds.... love the channel.... I do the western 11..... very helpful vids my company doesn’t teach us much at all just enough to get by . Very helpful and keep up the vids
Thanks Kody
I’ve always been taught this is a “gut wrap”.
I call it belly rap when going over the top and texas rap when crossed under. I keep two 50’ straps around for doing taller loads but rarely use them.
Cool 👍🏻 I will add those to the set up at some point.
@@DrivenTrucking =
Great strapping technique and advice ... Damn 7.8 mpg that's approaching Toyota prius mileage LOL.
Thanks, I’m trying brother 👍🏻👊🏻
I heard that if you increase the horse power of the engine the mpg can be as high as 12 on empty and about 9 on full load. Probably have to find a truck "hacker" to go into the system and change the settings.
great video, I haul a lot of that same shelving system. I do the same as you with my strapping.
Be safe out there fellow trucker
perfect strapping…
i do this also on Pipe load, specially on stepdeck
If you were to put some Dunnage aka 4/4 in between you dont need the butterfly straps but extra securement is always good
I've only ever pulled pneumatic tanker and van so I don't know much about flatbedding but man you sure share some great tips and tricks 👍🏻👍🏻 Also when you talk about your fuel mileage do you say what your ECM is telling you or are you sharing actual milage divided by gallons?
Thanks nasty, I appreciate it. For about six months I compared my trip amateur on my dash to actual fuel mileage divided at the pumps and every single day for six months, they were never more than .1 miles per gallon off so now I just trust my ECM
Thanks for all the good info...much appreciated.!!🇨🇦🇺🇸🛣
That's a wonderful idea I wish I could do it but right now I only have straps on one side of the trailer
Yea unfortunately sometimes it’s not an option.
What would help is rubber mats or wide strips of rubber between the top and bottom levels of the shelving racks. Metal on metal ain't gonna work and the racks will move for sure.
Really Im first!! hot damn!! Great Video Man, Look forward to seeing what crazy madness is in store in the future!! Stay safe and keep the shiny side up!
Heck yea! 👍🏻👊🏻 You too brother
Great strapping yet I think that middle one will work loose. As you say the winch side will come up tight an because the strap makes four hard turns it might just pull three of the four turns.
Did it move any?
Very informative. Good video!
Thanks a lot! The load didn’t move an iota LOL, what was crazy is my straps never even worked loose. I checked them probably a good five times but every time there was the same tension. No I did not check the ratchet strap I put in the middle as I couldn’t get to it under the tarps but I believe it had the same tension as when it started.
Wait until you are 76, tired is my middle name, the straps I had years ago were 2 inches wide, only used them to help keep tarps from flying around. Went onto rgn no straps used, that bow tie is a real good way, it's great you pass that on to others, pull toy here.
Thanks pull toy! I’d love to only throw chains 😂
Nothing to do about this video....Just don't try to educate Sergei Dratchev about anything....he knows it all and will delete and disable comments.
heyinway I watch his videos though I don’t comment 😊
Hauled a load of bundled cables used for concrete slabs. They look like slinkies laid across the trailer. You do the same bowtie tying the coils together alternating directions on straps. This keeps them straight and keeps them from shifting side to side and front to back. The only thing you have to be careful on hauling those pallet stands is to watch the edges and use edge protectors when bowtieing.
You should do choke chains on the the front and back just like a girder. Chains take care of un stability and stop loads from going thru your sleeper. You should always have a chain on each corner just like a container on a flat bed. Just relying on straps is dangerous. Those straps will cut, one at a time until half of your belts are gone. Should have a chain on all the corners
Good video. I just learned something new. And no, you said as always I am signing off. I'm tired. Exact words. 👍
Lol, thanks bud 👍🏻👊🏻 I see your other comment and I will get to it when I can put some thought to it. I appreciate your comments and your words of encouragement, thank you very much Jerry
Thanks for the video. I'm having issues at throwing straps when the load is high. My shoulder is about to let go. Any idea on how to send them straps up high and easy?
I was wondering how tall the cargo was? would it fit in a conestoga? our company calls it a Reverse Belly Wrap but bow tie works too. keep making the vlogs, very helpful to rookies like me, thank you
Thank you so much I’m glad you enjoyed them. I enjoyed making them. The blue shelving would not have fit under a Conestoga but the orange pieces in the back were actually delivered by a Conestoga that morning. It was a full load of them though.
I think using 4” webb winches on each end of the strap would even the tension of the straps . Securing this style load could be in a direct tie-down method .
Isn't that a butterfly? Sweet rig. Not trying to drive a house around 40ft is long enough 😅
Thank you for this im new to trucking and have been watching alot of your videos and they all have been a big help i hope to pass ya down the road sometime man
Awesome great content.. I learned something new to add to what I already know which ain't much... Always ready to learn something new..thanks
not sure how long your straps are but if you do it so that twist in strap is on top it will hold it very secure hard to explaine …. for example if it was say steel pipes lay the strap on the bed of trailer first then bring it up over the top on other side loop it under the strap then take hook back to side opposite winch you will end up with a twist on the top that pulls the load together as well as pulls it down will not move at all hope I have explained that ok ( 20 years driving in Australia )
Thanks Paul! Unfortunately I didn’t have any long enough for that this time however I should have some 40 footers here soon 👍🏻
What if your trailer winches are all in one side of the trailer? Please give advice thanks
Good one! Lotsa truck shots!
Thanks John! There will be lots more in the near future LOL
Bowtie strapping hummm !!! I told u I would learn something from u .
Lol, I’m just passing on info I learned from someone that knows way more than me 😂
Belly wrapping is what that’s called bo. Looks good bo! Stay safe out there. Hope to run into ya one day out here. I drive for PGT and been thinking about becoming a lp driver and would love to talk to you about it. Later bo
i thought choking it would be better with load chokers i think they only suited for 50 mm wide straps not 100 or 150 mm wide straps not belly looping and should have you used carpet pieces on them corner edges of the load or edge protectors too??
Great video learned a lot
I run a 30 Ft. hot shot trailer but have hauled that shelving. The plastic banding the shipper uses is garbage and have heard that other drivers lost lost loads from the same shipper because of them. I'll remember your bow ties the next time! The only tarps I carry are 8 footers and it's a real PITA when your load is just a 1/2" steel plate or a few boiler tubes. I rarely get to use anything but the top rows of D-rings. My next tarps will still be 8 footers with the top D-rings 7 feet apart instead of 9 feet. (can't afford to carry the extra weight on a non-CDL rig).
QUESTION: What do you mean by 8 foot and 4 foot tarp I have issue translating in French for my little brain. They are 14 x 18 feet
Thank you for great tips
Great idea
love your videos bud
Choke strap..that's the name, but a great reminder! Merry Christmas..btw I enjoy ur videos, keep it up!!!
Thank you, same to you!
Well that was definitely a learning opportunity thank you for your videos . 1 question if your winches are on 1 side do you think adding 2” ratchet straps to the opposite side have the same effect as your double winches?
I know I learned something LOL. Yes if you can set the ratchet up the same way as I set up that strap, then it would work exactly the same, it definitely takes two though
Thank you for the lesson 👍🏻
Regarding mpg... Are you running an mx13 or Cummins?
Cummins 2250
Those racks are tough, I had a bad shift myself. If that worked great something to keep in mind. I haul boats now.
Very nice Dan! 👍🏻
Awesome video, definitely learned something. I'm currently in flatbed training and will be driving only in Canada. I'm just wondering about the straps hooked over the rails, like they teach us it is illegal to have straps hooked over the rails. Is it allowed in the US?
Really enjoy watching your videos. 👍💪
Wonderful and thank you!
Thank you!!
Badass! Thanks for sharing!!
Great info brotha
Thanks 👍🏻👊🏻
Been subbed to ur channel for a while u got great content... We call that a butterfly strap at mt company
Wish I could alternate. My winches are all on one side. I do use some hand helds for that some times
thanks i just learned something
How long did it take you to strap that
I was taught that method was told it was called belly tie. We use it for pipes
Cool, it seems it has many names LOL
That looks like a very dangerous load. Also, my trailer is super old, 2005, and only have wrenches on the driver side...
That’s a bummer, and yes I was not happy about hauling it. I was very close to driving back around and having them just take it off
Regarding those 8 foot drop tarps... It's been suggested to me to instead invest in 2 tarps with 6 foot drops, and 2 foot extensions for each. Do you have an opinion on that set up?
I was actually just talking to a gentleman about extensions. I much prefer 6 foot drops as I don’t use my eight footers very much so as long as it is cost-effective I would say go for it.
@@DrivenTrucking yup... My first trainer mentioned it to me when I recently expressed interest in coming back over to flatbed (pulling food grade liquid bulk currently, but planning to buy my own truck by the end of the year and head to mercertown). It sounded like a solid idea instead of having more tarps to lug around, but hadn't heard it mentioned anywhere else
NarcolepticLTD Yes I had no idea this was an option either but it seems to make good sense as long as they work well. But I have no idea if they actually work well or not
Good job. That’s a unique load but who’s to say you have to go all the over with those 30ft straps? Go through the bottom of the top stack instead of over. Make sense? It’s what I woulda tried anyways but the X from moving... good job
Good job
Thanks Jesus!
We call it X-shaped or some older drivers call it triangular. I'm sure either, but there is the bowtie style we know about is likely to harness the top to the bottom or lower levels well for safety reasons too.
Thanks alot anyway.
I think it call a butterfly strapping..I use that strap with slinky coils
I learned that you need to go back to reefer hauling 😂😂😂
J/K
😂
Thanks... question: did you still have a fixed 5th wheel at this point?
Yes, and still do actually
@@DrivenTrucking Gochya. How did you make it work? Mine is fixed as well.
Great job
It looks like it would hold the product together.
👍🏻great video enjoyed it
Thank you 😊
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Chokers go from one side over the top, then under, and then back over the top to the opposite side, putting a stranglehold on the load. Alternate left to right and so on. I would never use your "bowtie." DOT has a small handbook covering this in detail, as well as Belly securement, and X securement.
I've used a similar method of strapping with my loads in the past, I call it web strapping.
I've installed that very rack for 25yrs,,, unloading 100s of trailers of that very product,,, not once have I seen more then 2 belly straps and 4 to 6 straps over the top bundle!!!
I've always called it a belly strap or a choke, the man I learned from always called it that and it just stuck
We call them butterfly straps, similar to how you’d strap slinkies.
That’s how I strap small diameter pipe.
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Hauled many a load of new and used pallet racking. Never had any of it shift. New should be tightly steel banded. Used can be shaky...lay 2" straps on deck and wrap around the bundle, not to the trailer. Then same as new or used...two straps across bottom of bundle close to deck, fasten to deck. Two straps over top of bundle. Two straps across bottom of upper bundle. Then two straps across top of top bundle within first four feet of end toward tractor, same at the rear of trailer....then fill in every 8 to 10' max across the top. Winches on both sides of trailer and alternate. Instead of winding all the excess strap around winch drum...pull excess thru drum, fold over in 18" or so lengths, tuck behind rubrail and pinch with what your're winding around drum....4 wraps around drum is sufficient and easy to tension straps. Doing them like that makes it easy to handle when they are wet and super easy to undo when frozen....much better to shake them undone rather than fighting to turn winch with frozen strap wrapped around it. Did this since 1985 all over USA and Canada...no issues. Any straps going more than 4' above the deck need to at least a single twist in them....keeps them from vibrating. A vibrating strap will do a lot of damage to freight, make a lot of noise, and can cut itself on all but the smoothest edge. Straps do deteriorate from road salt and uv rays of the sun...store off trailer when not in use. Replace all in the Spring.
I can’t read it all at the moment but I guarantee you I will. Thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge, it is appreciated.
Another great video brother. Ofcourse I’m not in the flat bed world but it’s nice learning about different sides of the industry. Never know where you’ll end up, especially when special offers pop up
Thanks brother, this is very true, you cannot seize opportunity if you are ill prepared
What’s the name song playing around 6 minutes?
Open Highway by Silent Partner. I have used quite a few of their songs. Pretty good for copyright free 👍🏻
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Bow-Tie sounds good to me LOL
Lol 🤷🏼♂️
It's called a butterfly. Most commonly seen on the ends of slinky's.
Putting 3 to 4 pieces of dunnage across that 1st layer would have helped stabilize the top layer
They moved because those beams are painted and u didn't have your first lower strap close enough to the front, u needed 3 lower straps and 8 top straps positioning the straps on the load is the key I've hauled several of those types of loads, always put your 1st lower strap no more than 2ft from the nose 2nd lower strap in center of the load and 3rd lower strap 3 to 4ft from the rear, 1st top goes around 6inches in front of lower strap and 2nd top goes 1ft behind the 1st lower strap the 3rd top strap goes 2ft behind the 2nd top strap and the 4th top strap split the difference between the 2nd lower strap and the 3rd top strap the 5th top strap goes 2ft from the rear and the 6th strap goes 1ft back from the 3rd lower strap the 7th strap goes 6inches back from 2nd lower strap and the 8th split the difference, I used to love strapping loads but no tarping for me lol
The problem with 8' tarps, is that they're 8' tarps! Just my humble opinion
Oh definitely my opinion too!
The good thing about 8 ft tarps is the tarping speed. I can tarp most loads in 20 mins. Thats tarps in the rack to pulling out the shipper. Plus, you have the perfect workout equipment for fireman runs and clean and snatch.
F 8ft tarps. Tarps in general suck and you really have to a crap load of work for next to nothing. Only time tarping is worth it if you’re an O/O period