@@dominickeijzer5844ah yes i remember being, firth place, my good friend in seconth place, and another boy from a different class in thrith place in our school’s intramurals
I personally think that the reason Venom chose to die with Eddie wasn't just because he was its home. It was because it knew that if it re-bonded with Peter it would be trapped with a host that no longer cared about keeping himself healthy/alive. It would just be in an endless cycle of suffering. It was already dying with Eddie's corpse, switching to Peter would just prolong its suffering. So it decided to go out with its only real friend.
Honestly, if a symbiote would rather die than deal with your issues, I think it's time you went looking for a therapist. Not a super therapist, a regular therapist.
One creepy detail in the penultimate page is Manhattan being almost completely surrounded by sea, meaning the Unraveling has already taken effect on most of New York and possibly the rest of the world. I'm wondering how other heroes and nations tried - and most likely failed - to stop it from happening
I like to think the Unraveling just happened on Manhattan and turned it into an island, and the rest of the world is just kind of going along like normal
Reading the panels, peter says it didn't fix the issue but it has stopped it from degrading. It seems to just be a bandaid over the issue that did allow peter to rest but Reed Richards will eventually run out. Peter even states he didn't expect it to last as long as it has.
I think the story with Tony Stark going nuts and turning himself and everyone around him into Ironman themed cyborgs is the more fucked up story in my opinion (And by cyborgs I mean Cybermen from Dr Who style cyborgs and not cyborgs like the Borg from Star Trek)
Writer: Hey boss, how depressing do you want this story to be? Exec: Depends which hero it's about I suppose. Writer: It's about spider- Exec: Make it the saddest most depressing shit you've ever seen, then make it 10 times worse 50 times over, and that'll be page one.
This is so freaking depressing. I legit felt bad for Venom in this one, imagine loving a friend so much that won't even let his body to rot...when he chose to die, I felt that.
What about reed?? If anything reed was the most depressing thing about this comic considering he had to most likely endure countless hours of not days and weeks of being stretched to a thread and holding the weight of thousands every second all while being alive and having no control
Sigh… not to rain on someone’s parade but Eddie and venoms relationship isn’t supposed to be healthy at all and testament to loyalty alone a wholesome friendship does not make.
@@gusthavo15yearsand98 I’m sorry you feel that way, my friend. I’ve had to learn this lesson three times now, my crippling sense of debt and duty keeps me loyal to people far longer than I should be, and they always let me down hard.
This was a Darkhold story where the heroes who read this went crazy after reading the page of the book. In Black Bolt's story, he doesn't know if he was an impostor because his scheming brother implanted his and Black Bolt memories with gadgets mimicking his powers into both of their bodies. What this meant is he doesn't know if he was the real Black Bolt or a fake.
@Cameo Shadowness Oh God the Iron Man one traumatized me. It's so fucked up and I hate that I discovered it. I can't look at Iron Man the same anymore lol
Right near the end my brain put most of the pieces together and went "Oh, his date with gwen isn't real is it?" I thought that since everything was falling apart and the people were corroding, but gwen looked just fine, it meant gwen was stuck in a loop of calling peter on a date and she thought she was just fine, so I wasn't too surprised to find out that nope, it was part of peter's loop and she's been dead for a while.
Reed said that by deconstructing himself, he's able to think better. So after Peter turned him entirely into web fluid, his mind is at its utmost clarity to feel the weight of every shoplot and skyscraper in New York, to feel the bones and flesh of almost every citizen in the city, to feel so much and yet not being able to do anything but weakly beg for mercy. (My headcanon is that Reed is gonna have a mental break from all of the agony then go insane. With his mind clear as ever, and being literally connected to every part of New York city, he will use that to his advantage to do uhh..something idk)
I feel like he thinks that it's the only thing he has left to do after all this chaos and being a hero or trying to is the only thing keeping him from going insane (more than he was already)
I think the worst part is that even this crazed Peter did what he had to as a hero to save the people and the city. Personally I hope they continue the story, I don't want them to explain why the unraveling happened, but I do want to see if the city manages to improve or things get worse.
nah this shouldnt have been made in the first place, im glad its done. Smartest man alive couldnt come up with a cure, everytime theres a virus, he either succumbs to the virus or just doesnt care enough to do anything. Reed has a habit of being mesmerized by these viruses instead of being terrified. Reed Richards is supposed to be marvels family man, but overtime, they managed to butcher a part of his character that will never be unseen. It all started in the marvel zombies run when he decided to turn his family into zombies, that paved the way into the ultimate comics not being shy from turning reed into a villain called the Maker, ever since then its been normalized to turn reed insane in certain comic runs. He seems to cause more problems than solve problems these days, even in his first MCU debut the smartest man alive throws the win by mentioning black bolts powers.
I like the idea of this Spider-Man, makes me wanna see him be a spider verse villain with a nice tragedy vibe to him. Also might or might not have an obsession with gwen
Man, I really felt bad for Venom. He could’ve bonded back with Peter, but given how hard Peter was working with little time to properly take care of himself, that was basically gonna be eternal suffering and so Venom chose to die with the already long dead Eddie. May you Rest In Peace, Venom.
2:00 “Because she’s my wife, Reed.” “Yes. I suppose that’s technically still the case.” Oh gosh. Gwen was dead from the beginning wasn’t she. She was never alive to begin with in this story. That call Peter had with her at the beginning- that wasn’t her. That was some recording or something like it. A piece of the long gone Gwen Stacy.
Calling it his 'inane anniversary meal fantasy'. Reed knows clearly, but can't really tell the guy keeping the city intact that the life he's experiencing is a fabrication.
i absolutly love stories like this,its so diffrent compared to other stories where they fight a supervillain or somthing,but this is a story of a threat you cannot perseve,and a threat that makes you insane,especially for the protagonist,spiderman in this case,its lovecraftian story telling and i absolutly love it
Something really interesting that crossed my mind after reading was how Peter might have felt when the venom symbiote rejected him. I think Peter desperately needed a connection to feel whole again, something that would make him feel stronger, powerful, himself. It could’ve saved Peter in a lot of ways-
@user-ro9yx4tv5o because it's interesting and thought provoking? It's terrifying and good at encapsulating an audience and sticks with you for a long time. Plus the storytelling and plot is amazing as well as the twists. I love the dark hold series more than the actual one, they're way better imo.
From all the other stories of the darkhold series Iron Man’s was dark and Spider-Man’s was mostly sad and a little dark. That’s how I see it of course.
I love that even in such a body horror, lovecraftian dystopia that a true Paragon like Peter Parker is able to stave off insanity to do what he can to save people in some way for countless days. Holding out hope that there's something to be done. And even as he slips into insanity, he causes one person to suffer in order to stave off the suffering for everyone else and keeps looking for solutions.
god I remember reading this and being interested because Reed was in it and soon as I read it, I was kind of terrified but curious, the ending kind of got me scared
If there's one thing the writers on Marvel know how to do, is giving Peter the shittiest hands life could deal to him. Happy marriage? Retconed! Got across a multidimensional trip? Multidimensional vampires. Had a bounty on his head, his family and close friends targeted multiple times, had his body taken over for a while, and much, much more. By God, give the man a break, please!
I had found an issue of this comic (or maybe the whole comic, given how short this tale was) in a comic store a couple months ago and only skimmed a couple pages after determining i hated what was happening. After that the morbid curiosity stuck with me as to what the hell that was about. Why in the world a Spider-man story that dark would even be written. And hope beyond hope that it might have a satisfyingly content ending. Oh how i regret learning the truth.
This comic was made as a side story towards a bigger marvel story known as the darkhold series. A series where there is this book called the darkhold and anyone who reads it will see into potentially millions of dark futures. This side comic was made to show what spider-man saw after he read just a few sentences within the darkhold.
For some reason this design of Spiderman i actually like. The way he looks is interesting and I thought it looked cool. But the story is really rough, even when its revealed it affected Peter too. I think what makes me like his design is his web-pack. It looks really cool!
Ah yes the unraveling. A thing I think most people missed was Gwen's hand in the frame where she's doing her make-up. That is clearly not the hand of someone that's well.
Yes, Gwen was certainly far along in her process of the unraveling, probably stuck in a loop of their anniversary, unable to do anything else. I would not be surprised if Peter lived out the anniversary with Gwen every day as it was the only thing Gwen was still able to do.
Why'd he use Reed if the web fluid mixture Mr.Fantastic created was available for use? Couldn't they just make more instead of putting Reed into the worst choke hold ever? Or could more of the mixture not be made because it's impossible to recreate the power from Reed without cutting more of him off?.
@@mystrenula3911 I know. What I'm wondering is if there's no way they could just recreate it scientifically and then just make copies of the mixture but seeing as how Reed got his powers it would probably be impossible without cutting more of Reed up.
Sorry I didn't understand what you meant, it was implied in the comic itself that it couldn't be recreated but that Reed wasn't the only thing that the webbing could be made of and that the venom symbiote could have been used similarly hence spider-man going to him
@@mystrenula3911 If you read the comic, I'm pretty sure it says what Mr. Reed had was some kind of special adhesive. He likely wanted to stretch out Venom (seeing as they can shapeshift) and stick them to the buildings in possibly the same way Spiderman ended up doing to Reed, unless Peter with a symbiote can generate more of that matter. They also wanted something self-healing, like mr. Reed's finger so the stitching doesn't degrade.
Every time you'd think life can't become any worse for Spidey, they just manage to make it even worse. Btw, its criminal you don't have more subscribers! Your content and narration are quite entertaining.
The idea of the Unraveling and it causing everything to fall apart, including living organisms, it has the feeling of something straight out of Dark Souls
This is the first I am hearing of it, but the Unraveling is a wild concept that I find refreshingly original, albeit horrifying. It gives me some interesting ideas of my own, though...
@@TheBeastInBlack Mostly ideas for my own writings. Ways to express the reality matrix collapsing (in a context where reality really is simulated). Ways to make a pandemic mess with your head beyond just societal unrest and death. Etc. It also reminds me of the Infestation from Warframe, since it evolved to infect solid objects in addition to living things, allowing it to turn an entire moon into a cancerous mass.
Bro...at 0:41 you can see Gwen putting on lipstick on the side of the mirror that's not her reflection...her fingers show us that she's already dead. It was shown from the very beginning.
I never understood the "the definition of insanity is repeating the same thing over and over..." quote. That's not what insanity is at all. Why do people keep saying it.
If I had to hazard a guess, it’s not being literal but rather talking about how it’s not rational thought to believe that you’ll ever be able to break out of a loop of you just repeat the same actions again and again without any change
I was finally like "Wow Peter and Gwen finally live happily together? I know the world is shit, but at least Gwen isn't dead in this timeline!" Only for her to actually be dead again 😭😭
Peter may have gone off the rails and into the ocean, but Reed made things MUCH worse by letting his ego control him again and give Peter the solution to solidify the problem. Not the "Unraveling", which can easily be placed on the Outsider's fault, but Peter already dead health. This comic is like what, 2 - 3 years old? I think it would be best for the Fantastic 4 to officially retire.
ITS **** LIKE THIS THAT MAKES NORMAL HORROR MOVIES KINDA PLAIN i used to love horror movies but after reading multiple dark univeres for dc and marvel all it does now is make my heart cold while this makes my heart stop while making me feel a chill down my spine
Just have to get this out here because its a huge pet peeve of mine: The definition of insanity is not "repeating the same acts expecting change". This quote got popular by the Far Cry series and has been misused ever since. The real definition can be easily googled and goes as follows: "unsoundness of mind or lack of the ability to understand that prevents one from having the mental capacity required by law to enter into a particular relationship, status, or transaction or that releases one from criminal or civil responsibility" Anyway. Really enjoying your vids!
@@srkami9608 he was the one who used it as one of the first, may even created that quote. But popularized means something else. Edit: I need to add that, after short research, this quote has no direct link to Einstein. Any reference was written well after his death. So this might just be one of the many different quotes people falsely attribute to Einstein just because of his image.
Reed's first conversation with Peter, referring to Peter working through an "anniversary meal fantasy," indicates that Peter's already been mentally affected by the Unraveling.
Considering all the previous traumatic events that Peter went through, I'm surprised that he didn't snap right then and there. He's got good willpower to last this long.
Why it’s peter web fluid the thing that could keep everything together? Was it because of that his powers come from a misty cal nature? If that’s the case why dr.Strange didn’t do anything about it as he is in fact a freaking mage, was he dead at that time?
@@endnes.m this doesn't make much sense to me, just cus something is stuck together doesn't mean it works,and are they immortal cus how do they not die from blood loss or lack of organs?
While I am all for dark and heartwrenching superhero stories and understand that there are thousands of different spiderman. The majority of them would have agreed that life stuck in a loop is not a life worth living. Life with no hope and only survival through others' suffering sound worse than meaningless and sad. Seeing how everyone's favorite comic book version of spiderman gives hope to villains and heroes and cries at their death bed. I'd like to think there is another version of this comic where he goes to Gwen with a bottle of crushed cider vinegar and holds her close in his arms and accepts the inevitable. Btw great summary of the comic/editing. Thank you for the video!
If he was sane, he would probably come to that conclusion, yeah. At this point, though, he’s just like dock ock, in that he just repeats the cycle of trying to save everyone, until reed eventually gives out and the city turns into slush. I don’t think normal spidey would be willing to hurt one of his own friends like that, just to postpone the inevitable
Spiderman writers after ruining peter's life for 84391st time:
Ah yes, 8439*1th*
@@dominickeijzer5844ah yes i remember being, firth place, my good friend in seconth place, and another boy from a different class in thrith place in our school’s intramurals
Ah yes, I also don't have a sense of humor and don't realize that the number was a deliberate joke.
@@johnsharkbane2190 Ah yes, my reading comprehension is so far down that I can't tell the difference between "1st" and "1th"
@@dominickeijzer5844 poor man must’ve been in 3th place too often as a child…
I personally think that the reason Venom chose to die with Eddie wasn't just because he was its home. It was because it knew that if it re-bonded with Peter it would be trapped with a host that no longer cared about keeping himself healthy/alive. It would just be in an endless cycle of suffering. It was already dying with Eddie's corpse, switching to Peter would just prolong its suffering. So it decided to go out with its only real friend.
Honestly, if a symbiote would rather die than deal with your issues, I think it's time you went looking for a therapist. Not a super therapist, a regular therapist.
@@ivanivan744Where? In the decaying crumbling city filled with zombies?
@@ivanivan744 Not technically zombies, more or less humans living through an event of decaying and suffering.
@@ivanivan744 If I remember correctly, he did once. But he made that therapist insane.
@@Foxy-Mask_Menace Are we sure it wasn't just Mephisto trying to prevent Peter from having sex again?
Spider-Man is probably one of the only characters in comics to not have plot armour... Man had suffered enough.
He has reverse plot armor.
@@MrcreeperDXD777 true XD
@@MrcreeperDXD777 Plot *suffering*
@@MrcreeperDXD777plot “kick me” sign
Plot “target painted on his back”
The plot red dot on his forehead
he specifically himself tends to have it, but everyone close to him has absolutely none.
funny how peters insanity is still rooted in keeping people safe lmao
Paragons, baby, they'll do anything to help others
... anything.
...and then he gets out and turns into generic evil guy
... I don't think he is the type of guy to be evil intentionally...
@@jimmyneutron3986 I dont either
Why are you guys ending and starting your sentences with “…”
Oh sure, when spider man does it, he's a hero, when I do it, I'm "banned from the subway for life" double standards, smh.
Covering the subway with sticky white fluids might stop the robbed, but it also makes the children scared.
Wtf did you do at subway
@@juan-ij1le you'll understand when you get older
Yeah when you try using a spiders backside as a web fluid dispensers, it kinda has bad consequences
Please tell me you did it on a train and not somebody half eaten sandwich
Okay, I thought Reed was dead at the end but nope! That's....that's horrifying. This is body horror at it's finest.
If you want to see real body horror you should see the mini-series they made for Iron Man
@@ianchoi4646 Name?
@@badonkadonk6655 NOt sure but there's a cover of it on this channel
"at it's finest" damn, you really had to get the string man like that
@@ianchoi4646 Holy fuck no! That shit is way terrifying
One creepy detail in the penultimate page is Manhattan being almost completely surrounded by sea, meaning the Unraveling has already taken effect on most of New York and possibly the rest of the world. I'm wondering how other heroes and nations tried - and most likely failed - to stop it from happening
I like to think the Unraveling just happened on Manhattan and turned it into an island, and the rest of the world is just kind of going along like normal
@@erihgioqe3798 "shouldn't we, like deal with the large amounts of people just drifting off?"
"Who cares lol"
Curious on how the oceans ain't effected if they are by the event that basically causes pretty much a lot of stuff to degrade
It's likely everything else just degraded into 'water'...
@@admiralyifan9326 “Fuck Manhattan” -the other 4 boroughs
I remember this story and am still horrified by it. I guess the solution worked though..... unless we're seeing it through Peter's eyes....
Reading the panels, peter says it didn't fix the issue but it has stopped it from degrading. It seems to just be a bandaid over the issue that did allow peter to rest but Reed Richards will eventually run out. Peter even states he didn't expect it to last as long as it has.
I think the story with Tony Stark going nuts and turning himself and everyone around him into Ironman themed cyborgs is the more fucked up story in my opinion (And by cyborgs I mean Cybermen from Dr Who style cyborgs and not cyborgs like the Borg from Star Trek)
@@The_Blue_Otaku could you link that story sounds cool?
@@The_Blue_OtakuSame link the story to me as well
@@calmsquirrel7124 th-cam.com/video/xKzk81odXK8/w-d-xo.html here's the vid to that story y'all
Writer: Hey boss, how depressing do you want this story to be?
Exec: Depends which hero it's about I suppose.
Writer: It's about spider-
Exec: Make it the saddest most depressing shit you've ever seen, then make it 10 times worse 50 times over, and that'll be page one.
Why do I hear James Jonah Jameson as Exec.
@@NP2238 Bruh
It do be like that
Ah yes, Spidermans true archnemesis, storywritters.
@@NP2238 so incredibly real
This is so freaking depressing. I legit felt bad for Venom in this one, imagine loving a friend so much that won't even let his body to rot...when he chose to die, I felt that.
Yea Venom and Eddie deserve better 😭😭😭
What about reed?? If anything reed was the most depressing thing about this comic considering he had to most likely endure countless hours of not days and weeks of being stretched to a thread and holding the weight of thousands every second all while being alive and having no control
Sigh… not to rain on someone’s parade but Eddie and venoms relationship isn’t supposed to be healthy at all and testament to loyalty alone a wholesome friendship does not make.
@@clevernamerighthere9240 it actually does
@@gusthavo15yearsand98
I’m sorry you feel that way, my friend. I’ve had to learn this lesson three times now, my crippling sense of debt and duty keeps me loyal to people far longer than I should be, and they always let me down hard.
This was so darn great, seeing an insane Peter still helping people is wholesome, I almost cried when he reassured Doc Oc that he wouldn't laugh.
Brought a tear to my eye:(
And did you see doc ocs back. It has webbing on it showing its already happened multiple times.
@@RaisingKayne223 Oof, you're right...
Even peter at his worst still wants to help people
He might've lost his mind but he hasn't lost his humanity
This was a Darkhold story where the heroes who read this went crazy after reading the page of the book. In Black Bolt's story, he doesn't know if he was an impostor because his scheming brother implanted his and Black Bolt memories with gadgets mimicking his powers into both of their bodies. What this meant is he doesn't know if he was the real Black Bolt or a fake.
I need to read the other darkhold stories now.
@@cameoshadowness7757 Wait until you read the Wasp and Iron Man ones.
Get an X-ray.
@Cameo Shadowness Oh God the Iron Man one traumatized me. It's so fucked up and I hate that I discovered it. I can't look at Iron Man the same anymore lol
@@redfalcon8062 Your comment is freaking me out. Is it worth it to read??
That makes me wonder, though - how did Venom hear Gwen's call if she was dead the whole time? Was he calling it out himself?
The phone is on a loop too
venom isnt dead, eddie is
@@tieflingcorpse9817 But Gwen was dead is their point
I think it was an old voicemail playing or something or like a timed call ringtone
What if shes calling well shes dead thats why she is webbed to the table
This story stays so chilling no matter how much I read it
Right near the end my brain put most of the pieces together and went "Oh, his date with gwen isn't real is it?" I thought that since everything was falling apart and the people were corroding, but gwen looked just fine, it meant gwen was stuck in a loop of calling peter on a date and she thought she was just fine, so I wasn't too surprised to find out that nope, it was part of peter's loop and she's been dead for a while.
@@Nyghtking i mean come on it's spider man we talking here about no matter what timeline he always suffers one way or another
What’s the comic called?
What’s the issue called?
@@gentlemancharmander4411 darkhold spider man
The scariest part for me is were spiderman bounces on a web made out of Mr fantastic
And the fact that he's still alive and talking to him in that state
That is super scary
@@Grassphobic yeah but it hurts
Doom probably loves it lol
I know this is Marvel but that last page and Peter's manic grin silencing poor Reed gave me massive Dark Multiverse vibes.
The writers don't know when to give Peter the happy ending he deserves
Yeah, he needs a story with a good end, he is the type of guy we want to se happy
Reed said that by deconstructing himself, he's able to think better. So after Peter turned him entirely into web fluid, his mind is at its utmost clarity to feel the weight of every shoplot and skyscraper in New York, to feel the bones and flesh of almost every citizen in the city, to feel so much and yet not being able to do anything but weakly beg for mercy.
(My headcanon is that Reed is gonna have a mental break from all of the agony then go insane. With his mind clear as ever, and being literally connected to every part of New York city, he will use that to his advantage to do uhh..something idk)
If Reed can still control his body this might get really disturbing
Bro got permanent Post Nut Clarity
Oh damn he's having sensory overload 24/7, that's just horrible
Luckily, he gets put out of his misery later on when the Reed Webbing begins to dissolve.
Peter somehow powering through this and remaining a hero is testament on how chaotic/lawful good he is
Like honestly I would have gave up the moment a motherfucker’s jaw falls off lol
I feel like he thinks that it's the only thing he has left to do after all this chaos and being a hero or trying to is the only thing keeping him from going insane (more than he was already)
I think the worst part is that even this crazed Peter did what he had to as a hero to save the people and the city.
Personally I hope they continue the story, I don't want them to explain why the unraveling happened, but I do want to see if the city manages to improve or things get worse.
nah this shouldnt have been made in the first place, im glad its done. Smartest man alive couldnt come up with a cure, everytime theres a virus, he either succumbs to the virus or just doesnt care enough to do anything. Reed has a habit of being mesmerized by these viruses instead of being terrified. Reed Richards is supposed to be marvels family man, but overtime, they managed to butcher a part of his character that will never be unseen. It all started in the marvel zombies run when he decided to turn his family into zombies, that paved the way into the ultimate comics not being shy from turning reed into a villain called the Maker, ever since then its been normalized to turn reed insane in certain comic runs. He seems to cause more problems than solve problems these days, even in his first MCU debut the smartest man alive throws the win by mentioning black bolts powers.
@@jowloh like marvel zombies dude becomes insane and calls it the next step in human evolution and infects his friends with the zombie virus
@@jowloh okay but like who would want Mr. Fantastic's fate in this, It's lke way worse than death
I like the idea of this Spider-Man, makes me wanna see him be a spider verse villain with a nice tragedy vibe to him. Also might or might not have an obsession with gwen
This is only a Vision of the Darkhold
It was kinda implied this Universe doesn't even exist
Man, I really felt bad for Venom. He could’ve bonded back with Peter, but given how hard Peter was working with little time to properly take care of himself, that was basically gonna be eternal suffering and so Venom chose to die with the already long dead Eddie. May you Rest In Peace, Venom.
2:00 “Because she’s my wife, Reed.” “Yes. I suppose that’s technically still the case.”
Oh gosh. Gwen was dead from the beginning wasn’t she. She was never alive to begin with in this story. That call Peter had with her at the beginning- that wasn’t her. That was some recording or something like it. A piece of the long gone Gwen Stacy.
Makes the story so much more disturbing.
Calling it his 'inane anniversary meal fantasy'. Reed knows clearly, but can't really tell the guy keeping the city intact that the life he's experiencing is a fabrication.
Reed literally refers to Peter living an "inane anniversary meal fantasy" in that part of the story as well. Pretty strong foreshadowing.
Very tragic and sad.
Does that mean Reed is pretty much the only one left with any sanity
i absolutly love stories like this,its so diffrent compared to other stories where they fight a supervillain or somthing,but this is a story of a threat you cannot perseve,and a threat that makes you insane,especially for the protagonist,spiderman in this case,its lovecraftian story telling and i absolutly love it
I agree with you. 💯 😊
Ew
I think it's a testament to what kind of person Spider-Man is that even when he's completely lost it, he's still trying to protect people.
Something really interesting that crossed my mind after reading was how Peter might have felt when the venom symbiote rejected him. I think Peter desperately needed a connection to feel whole again, something that would make him feel stronger, powerful, himself. It could’ve saved Peter in a lot of ways-
god i love darkhold. All these terrifying stories. Its like marvel zombies but more
Hope they do more with plenty other heroes and villains. Imagine how wicked ones starring Dr. Strange, Captain Marvel and DOCTOR DOOM would be.
Why would you like something like this
@user-ro9yx4tv5o because it's interesting and thought provoking? It's terrifying and good at encapsulating an audience and sticks with you for a long time. Plus the storytelling and plot is amazing as well as the twists.
I love the dark hold series more than the actual one, they're way better imo.
@@real_rutmen The same reason people enjoy well made horror.
Like thepandared said, "peter is one bad day away from being one of the biggest threats in marvel"
Bullshit, every day is a bad day to spiderman.
@@ADAJ342 one shit day would send him spiraling
@@ADAJ342 okay, one ridiculously terrible no good very bad day
Wrong peter only has bad days but still is the best person. This comic proves it too
Finally someone in universe knows Peter's suffering
Jeezus.... That thought itself is really dark. Good point
Robert Reynolds.
“How depressing you want the spiderman comic to be?”
“y e s .”
Seems like the writers of Spiderman have an unhealthy addiction to torturing Peter.
Insanity is when I repeatedly procrastinate on my assignments again and again while expecting a good mark.
From all the other stories of the darkhold series Iron Man’s was dark and Spider-Man’s was mostly sad and a little dark. That’s how I see it of course.
was iron man's the one where he basically melted
@@flat-seventh yep and his suit fused to his body. Like that story deserves its Halloween special or something
Nah this one is honestly much darker than Iron man one
I love that even in such a body horror, lovecraftian dystopia that a true Paragon like Peter Parker is able to stave off insanity to do what he can to save people in some way for countless days. Holding out hope that there's something to be done. And even as he slips into insanity, he causes one person to suffer in order to stave off the suffering for everyone else and keeps looking for solutions.
like the railroad solution one life over 5
god I remember reading this and being interested because Reed was in it and soon as I read it, I was kind of terrified but curious, the ending kind of got me scared
Venom and Eddie have a beautiful and strange relationship. This incapsulates it perfectly
your vids never fails to put a smile on my face
i would not say smile is the best reaction to this storry
Tbh The story was pretty dark
@@Buzz852 ye ikr
@Dumb Blob bro it’s good kid maad city but with loaded diper
@Dumb Blob oh ok
That Venom part was so sad bro😭
They loved eachother that much I'm actually jealous
Nightwing's writers: *Constant kill, nerf, or ruin his life.*
Peter's writers: Hold our web fluid.
And Mr Fantastic
If there's one thing the writers on Marvel know how to do, is giving Peter the shittiest hands life could deal to him. Happy marriage? Retconed! Got across a multidimensional trip? Multidimensional vampires. Had a bounty on his head, his family and close friends targeted multiple times, had his body taken over for a while, and much, much more.
By God, give the man a break, please!
everyone gets a shitty future in this comic series lol thats the point
I had found an issue of this comic (or maybe the whole comic, given how short this tale was) in a comic store a couple months ago and only skimmed a couple pages after determining i hated what was happening. After that the morbid curiosity stuck with me as to what the hell that was about. Why in the world a Spider-man story that dark would even be written. And hope beyond hope that it might have a satisfyingly content ending.
Oh how i regret learning the truth.
This comic was made as a side story towards a bigger marvel story known as the darkhold series. A series where there is this book called the darkhold and anyone who reads it will see into potentially millions of dark futures. This side comic was made to show what spider-man saw after he read just a few sentences within the darkhold.
@@CS-ge2fm Wait, so this is just what Peter sees after reading, it didn't actually happen?
No it didn’t actually happen thankfully.
@savonlofton6813 or more accurately it did happen, just not to our Peter thankfully.
@@Sky-Daddy Oh man, that still sucks for the Peter of this timeline
I love watching your clothing fluctuate genuinely entertaining
For some reason this design of Spiderman i actually like. The way he looks is interesting and I thought it looked cool. But the story is really rough, even when its revealed it affected Peter too.
I think what makes me like his design is his web-pack. It looks really cool!
Ah yes the unraveling.
A thing I think most people missed was Gwen's hand in the frame where she's doing her make-up. That is clearly not the hand of someone that's well.
Yes, Gwen was certainly far along in her process of the unraveling, probably stuck in a loop of their anniversary, unable to do anything else. I would not be surprised if Peter lived out the anniversary with Gwen every day as it was the only thing Gwen was still able to do.
1:47 damn this hits hard
Yet another instance of “no good deed goes unpunished”
This is even worse than Zombies killing everyone. People just decaying like that, that's dark.
He came to their rescue with his fluids.
Why'd he use Reed if the web fluid mixture Mr.Fantastic created was available for use? Couldn't they just make more instead of putting Reed into the worst choke hold ever? Or could more of the mixture not be made because it's impossible to recreate the power from Reed without cutting more of him off?.
The web fluid Reed made used a finger he cut off in it's making
@@mystrenula3911 I know. What I'm wondering is if there's no way they could just recreate it scientifically and then just make copies of the mixture but seeing as how Reed got his powers it would probably be impossible without cutting more of Reed up.
Sorry I didn't understand what you meant, it was implied in the comic itself that it couldn't be recreated but that Reed wasn't the only thing that the webbing could be made of and that the venom symbiote could have been used similarly hence spider-man going to him
@@mystrenula3911 If you read the comic, I'm pretty sure it says what Mr. Reed had was some kind of special adhesive. He likely wanted to stretch out Venom (seeing as they can shapeshift) and stick them to the buildings in possibly the same way Spiderman ended up doing to Reed, unless Peter with a symbiote can generate more of that matter. They also wanted something self-healing, like mr. Reed's finger so the stitching doesn't degrade.
Every time you'd think life can't become any worse for Spidey, they just manage to make it even worse.
Btw, its criminal you don't have more subscribers! Your content and narration are quite entertaining.
This comic feels like a metaphor of Peter's life in general.
What's wild is that the people held together probably hear Reed plead for help
Good lord.
Holy shit
Man can Peter ever catch a break?!
Those Darkhold stories are wacky. But in a good way. I saw a summary of the Iron Man one.
Unbeliavable situations that should definitely be impossible to fix?
No worries, friendly spiderhood hero neighborman is off to the rescue!
"Do you know the definition of insanity?- Vaas Montenegro
This gives off legitimate Ito Junji vibes. If you told me this was a plotline from one of his manga I'd believe you.
Right? Now I'm curious to see this comic in his art style.. that'd be so cool
was expecting this coment, didnt dissapoint
This is a good Spidey story for Halloween.
0:13 - Vaas would be proud. Bravo 👏
The idea of the Unraveling and it causing everything to fall apart, including living organisms, it has the feeling of something straight out of Dark Souls
This is the first I am hearing of it, but the Unraveling is a wild concept that I find refreshingly original, albeit horrifying. It gives me some interesting ideas of my own, though...
What ideas does it give you?
@@TheBeastInBlack Mostly ideas for my own writings. Ways to express the reality matrix collapsing (in a context where reality really is simulated). Ways to make a pandemic mess with your head beyond just societal unrest and death. Etc. It also reminds me of the Infestation from Warframe, since it evolved to infect solid objects in addition to living things, allowing it to turn an entire moon into a cancerous mass.
Bruh, are you ok?
@@real_rutmen Why would you ask if he is ok?
Bro...at 0:41 you can see Gwen putting on lipstick on the side of the mirror that's not her reflection...her fingers show us that she's already dead. It was shown from the very beginning.
Marvel, have mercy on this boy
I never understood the "the definition of insanity is repeating the same thing over and over..." quote. That's not what insanity is at all. Why do people keep saying it.
Far cry 3 i think
yeah, I dont get it either
They're probably all insane. Ha, get it? Because insanity is repeating the same thing over and over, at least according to them?
If I had to hazard a guess, it’s not being literal but rather talking about how it’s not rational thought to believe that you’ll ever be able to break out of a loop of you just repeat the same actions again and again without any change
Yeah why are people listening to vaas, he’s fucking insane, and anyone who’s insane that admits they’re insane has no fucking idea why they’re insane
I was finally like "Wow Peter and Gwen finally live happily together? I know the world is shit, but at least Gwen isn't dead in this timeline!" Only for her to actually be dead again 😭😭
Peter may have gone off the rails and into the ocean, but Reed made things MUCH worse by letting his ego control him again and give Peter the solution to solidify the problem. Not the "Unraveling", which can easily be placed on the Outsider's fault, but Peter already dead health. This comic is like what, 2 - 3 years old? I think it would be best for the Fantastic 4 to officially retire.
Dude's swapping outfits like a GTA clothes store
I like that even though peter went insane he still tries to save the city
You can change an man's head but you cant change his heart i guess
ITS **** LIKE THIS THAT MAKES NORMAL HORROR MOVIES KINDA PLAIN
i used to love horror movies but after reading multiple dark univeres for dc and marvel all it does now is make my heart cold while this makes my heart stop while making me feel a chill down my spine
Imagine if this was animated or even live action.
Just have to get this out here because its a huge pet peeve of mine:
The definition of insanity is not "repeating the same acts expecting change". This quote got popular by the Far Cry series and has been misused ever since.
The real definition can be easily googled and goes as follows:
"unsoundness of mind or lack of the ability to understand that prevents one from having the mental capacity required by law to enter into a particular relationship, status, or transaction or that releases one from criminal or civil responsibility"
Anyway. Really enjoying your vids!
This was popularized by Einstein, not by Far Cry
@@srkami9608 he was the one who used it as one of the first, may even created that quote. But popularized means something else.
Edit: I need to add that, after short research, this quote has no direct link to Einstein. Any reference was written well after his death. So this might just be one of the many different quotes people falsely attribute to Einstein just because of his image.
@@tobidobidu1129 thank. you. this is a pet peeve of mine as well.
You know it’s bad when venom is depressed but accepts it.
I don’t wish to sound creepy, but you have an absolutely lovely voice.
The clothes changing was dope great video
Even when he snapped he tried being your friendly neighborhood spiderman
“Spider-Man Keeps New York Together Using His Fluids” pause
With those round glasses he be looking like a ginger Matt Murdock
"did i ever tell you the definition of insanity" yeah, okay Vaas. xd
Dude pulled out the far cry 3 insanity definition 💀💀
This is so dark you could see its silhouette in a black hole.
Cant wait for you to review the wasp and black bolt one!
So we aren’t gonna talk about how dude went to through 3 different fits at the beginning of the video
"Have i ever told you the definition of insanity'
This sounds like an scp end of the world scenario
Basically trying to fix all problem with flex tape.
him changing the outfit 3 times lmaoo
That Panel at 2:22 has so much meme potential.
I'm just saying it in case it does.
I was looking for a comment on that panel lol
I love how he defined what insanity is just like how the dude in Far Cry defined what insanity is.
Reed's first conversation with Peter, referring to Peter working through an "anniversary meal fantasy," indicates that Peter's already been mentally affected by the Unraveling.
Venom: Eddie's gone
Peter: How long? ?
Venom: Not long...
This guy: eDdiE dIeD l0nG aGo
Considering all the previous traumatic events that Peter went through, I'm surprised that he didn't snap right then and there. He's got good willpower to last this long.
I never want to read the title of this video again…
If Junji Ito wrote a spiderman comic
I thought insanity was the discordance of inner and outer reality, but carry on.
"Spider-man Keeps New york together using his fluid"😏
This story is just a literal translation of Peter’s entire character. Just barely keeping his city, and the world, from falling apart perpetually.
Mr. Fantastic:* SCP D-Class personal sream*
Why it’s peter web fluid the thing that could keep everything together? Was it because of that his powers come from a misty cal nature? If that’s the case why dr.Strange didn’t do anything about it as he is in fact a freaking mage, was he dead at that time?
Bro Dr strange could also be falling apart and the webbing is sticky and elastic enough to hold everything together like tape or glue
Bro, you mean “mystical”?
@@endnes.m this doesn't make much sense to me, just cus something is stuck together doesn't mean it works,and are they immortal cus how do they not die from blood loss or lack of organs?
@@pinkinthesushi yes, autocorrector non-sense
@@grease_8387 zombie logic
While I am all for dark and heartwrenching superhero stories and understand that there are thousands of different spiderman. The majority of them would have agreed that life stuck in a loop is not a life worth living. Life with no hope and only survival through others' suffering sound worse than meaningless and sad.
Seeing how everyone's favorite comic book version of spiderman gives hope to villains and heroes and cries at their death bed. I'd like to think there is another version of this comic where he goes to Gwen with a bottle of crushed cider vinegar and holds her close in his arms and accepts the inevitable.
Btw great summary of the comic/editing. Thank you for the video!
If he was sane, he would probably come to that conclusion, yeah. At this point, though, he’s just like dock ock, in that he just repeats the cycle of trying to save everyone, until reed eventually gives out and the city turns into slush. I don’t think normal spidey would be willing to hurt one of his own friends like that, just to postpone the inevitable
Bro looks like Matt Murdock with them glasses
It’s crazy once you think about the fact that Peter himself has fallen into his own loop just like Otto, and has been slowly losing his grip
I think the whole Vaas monologue thing is funnier with the curses
I knew something was off when Gwen looked completely normal