I love how he didn't get beaten in a spectacular manner, with some big explosion or after a big hero speech, he just got stomped by a random civilian, who didn't even so much as care about him. A shitty death for a shitty person.
Whoooaaa I can’t believe how cool and deep and smart you are. You took what the writers wrote and like typed it out in words and it was like whaaaat the bully was a bad guy, and the spider made his insides bad, and so now it’s like yeah the guy’s metaphorical bad insides are now a literal bad inside so it’s like whaaaat that’s so crazy and deep and just so cool wow man. I love it. Can we get you a job as a Marvel writer? I think you’d be just as talented as the person who wrote Disney Star Wars or Multiverse of Madness or The Room. It’s just so cool how you were able to write out the thing the writers also wrote out. The guy was always a monster, but now he’s a spider monster. It’s so genius and like just cool and deep how more people aren’t freaking out and in pure awe and super impressed with this is unreal. Think about it. This bully guy was bad at the start right? But then he became this spider monster thing, and then his INSIDES became bad, and so this means that now he’s like both bad on the inside and the outside…wait when did he get bad on the outside? Oh yeah yeah he was always bad so yeh that was him being bad on the outside and then the spider turned his inside bad. Yeah sorry I missed it for a second but yeah we’re all set it now. Damn that’s so cool and deep and smart. I wonder if the writers even realize this or if it’s just you’re so smart as a commenter than you’ve elevated their work into a new level by stating how the monster turned him bad on the outside or inside or whatever and than that made the monster become bad on the monster’s inside which means that the monster was actually good the whole time. Omg 😱 I can’t believe I just put that together I’m so deep holy crap I have to go write this down. The monster was actually a good because of the bad being multiplied against the inside of itself this made it become good but it was actually good the whole time omg 😳 this is making so much sense now. I have to start writing my own comic now
Yeah. Except no. Not at all. I always feel cheated by endings like this except in specific cases where it's thematic. Doing it more would just be pure garbage to me because I actually LIKE good villains.
People like Carl always need someone to blame to hid their imperfections and insecurities he could've been as big as a hero like spider-man(albeit a terrifying and nightmare fuel one) look at flash Thompson he was once the same bully who picked on peter but he took responsibility of his life and past mistakes, became better person and a hero Agent Venom. Could've been Carl if he actually matured
He could have done any number of things, he existed as a hoard of spiders, the government would love to have someone on their payroll who could infiltrate not only a single enemy base but several at once. At minimum if he played his cards right he was looking at becoming a valuable government contractor, information gatherer, and maybe even assassin, instead he chose to be petty.
@@Nyghtking True, as horrifying as his "gift" was he did get power, but power wasn't what he really wanted was it, he wanted what other people had. He was driven by envy and the desire to take from other what he thought was owed to him. Without that he wouldn't even be a bug, just a hollow shell
The name of the guy who squashed what’s left of Carl is Jacob Hardly. Speaking of what’s left of Carl, the spider that Jacob squished wasn’t the only one that Carl survived through, as there’s another (albeit, unseen) spider that Carl’s currently possessing right now, and he’s still on the loose.
The fact that he ate the spider instead of just receiving a bite from it really shows how much an over-achiever he is in the terms of jealousy. Dude literally picked on Parker for no reason because he just wanted to do it for no reason, and when he sees Peter gain superpowers he then thinks he should've been the one to have them because he "deserved" to be a hero? Heck no. I'm pretty sure if he was the 1st person to get bit and gain spider man's powers he most likely wouldn't have used them for good anyway. If that was the case, I'd like to bet Peter would get himself bit by the spider as well just to take him down because that's what Peter is at his core between hero or villain. He'll always be the hero in his story
That actually happen in “Peter Parker had to destroy Spider Man”, where it takes place in a world where Flash Thompson was the one that bit by the spider. At first, Peter wanted to help Flash to be a hero. But when Flash started to take things too far, Peter created robotic spider legs similar to Doc Ock’s tentacle arms to stop Flash and then was recruit by the Fantastic Four. Even without getting bit by the spider, he is still capable of becoming a hero.
The way i would do the Thousand is be the negative part of the spider-force well the spider-god known as Anansi would pick Peter parker to be his champion knowing of his good heart and soul as Anansi would pick people with a pure heart to be his web-warriors well the Negative spider-force God would be Arachne who would pick people who seek amazement and the chance for greatness to be her champion and see Carl as her champion as Charl would be known as Spider-savage as a dark counterpart to peter parker and his role as Spider-man
What's sad is had Carl never ate the spider, he still would have turned out the same way. I wouldn't be surprised if he would have still tried to kill Peter for a petty reason.
He would have ended up as some small time thug or wife-beater or some other lowlife Peter webbed up and forgot all about five seconds later because Carl King never grew from being the violent little sadist. Meanwhile Peter Parker rose to be the hero everyone from Wolverine and Captain America to the Hulk respect and are proud to stand alongside
@@JonCrs10 because he ate the corpse. It’s likely the bite only gave a small amount of venom to give the powers of a spider, maybe more physical qualities depending on the person. But he had the whole thing in his system, so he became full spider…at least his insides
The thousand ended dying as he lived, sad, pathetic, and alone, squashed like the disgusting parasite he was. Mrs. Patterson didn't deserve any of that, she could've had a better life but at least she can rest easy knowing that the sick bastard will never be able to harm anyone again.
Spider-Man literally standing up to a bully, “I’m not afraid of you”, to the most terrifying opponent he had ever seen yet. That is what Peter truly was on the inside: a hero. And no matter whose body Carl was in, he was still just the same bully on the inside. Literally and figuratively. Great writing. ✍️
1. He is constantly broke and is always late on his rent. 2. He has to care for an elderly aunt. 3. He works for a trigger-tempered asshole who constantly sh[_]ts on his name. 4. He can't keep a girlfriend. 5. He's got like 80 supervillains to deal with.
Ennis actually likes Spider-Man from what I remember, so it makes sense the story ended up good while still being horrifying and edgy. When the man writes comics well, he really nails it. The problem is that he needs a team of other writers and editors around him to hold him back, cause otherwise he goes all in and his stories crash and burn spectacularly. It’s why the original comics for The Boys is so disliked, cause it wastes tons of good ideas in favour of gratuitous sex and violence just for the sake of showing the Supes as depraved, without any nuance that the show luckily added. Then there’s Crossed, which I’m too terrified to read myself cause I’ve heard it’s much worse, which is a shame cause the premise interests me.
You know what this makes me wanna see? The Thousand vs Spiders-Man. Like imagine, Thousand is about to rip open a hole into the guy's mask, and instead of a human mouth, another horde of spiders come out and whoops the evil spider horde's ass.
Carl is kinda scary when you think about it. Since he’s been watching a lot of Peters encounters with his villians he could have easily allied with the more psychotic villians like the Green Goblin or kill him while he was either weakened or knocked out during one of his many fights with his villians
The scariest part is that he was able to successfully stalk Peter with what I'd imagine is semi malicious intent, he was able to bypass his spider sense
This story bothers me in such a minor way because like….it feels like instead of making Carl strong enough to pose a threat to spider man, if feels like they just made spidey weaker? Like, we’ve seen Peter lift trains, stop planes, and go toe to toe with some seriously badass villains, and Carl just don’t feel up to snuff. Don’t get me wrong, he absolutely COULD’VE been, he’s got an imposing and terrifying power, and his obsession with Peter is quite imposing, but he just didn’t seem like somebody who should be able to straight up BEAT him in a fight. I feel like this is most encapsulated by the restraints he puts on Peter because like…he has to “muster his strength” to bust out of a flimsy wooden chair and a bit of rope? I just don’t buy it.
@@jackeibon884 He has been drugged by Kraven (it was enough to kill a elephant btw) before and all it did was make him dizzy. But maybe the poison is more potent that I guess.
to quote discworld: "Pray that when your lfie is at another's mercy, it is at the hands of an evil man. Because Evil men like power, especially power over others, and so he'll talk. He'll put off your death like another would savour the flavour of a cigar. So pray you're at the mercy of an evil man, because a good man would kill you without a second thought."
@@mikadosannoji553 that is cuz he is literally not human not magic not shit he is literally a 1000 spiders that have a hivemind DNA so carl can control them even if he is technically dead
I couldn't recommend this comic enough. Tangled Web of Spider-Man is one my all-time favorites, presenting not just regular Spider-Man stories, but putting regular folks of NY front. A little kid who has sick mother, J Jonah Jameson, Frog Man, some guy working under Kingpin... almost all of the issues are pure gold. If this story arc is more disturbing, the rest is more comedic and heartwarming, it really needs more attention!
The Thousand's superpower really matches his personality. Strong but weak, seeking to be feared, instead of respected. The lies that he told himself (He deserves Spider-Man's powers, he had to eat his girlfriend, etc.) made him fall deeper into this depravation of attention seeking that turned into "plan B" (eating the spider that bit Peter), turning him into this villain that perfectly represents his imperfections & flaws. The Thousand is fear, but is afraid. The Thousand is strong together, but weak when by itself. It's a great story with a great narrative and an even more satisfying death.
This has gotta be the most disgusting villain I've ever known, not only in looks but also just how he is an awful person in general, at least he got what he deserved and honestly in the most ironic way possible.
I wonder if this guy ever interacted with Flash Thompson because both of them were bullies and I can see Flash initially hanging out with him until eventually realizing that oh crap this guy is going too far
About that, Flash was a bully, but a morally good one, instead of becoming a villain with his powers as Agent Venom, he became a hero. Whenever bullying Parker, he always had a limit, and tried to keep it as little as teasing or slightly above that.
I knew a kid at my school who got me annoyed with him being a crybaby about things But never Bully him as being a bully will make you No better than the people who think they can do whatever they want
Carl:Those powers should be mine!,Your life is perfect just because of them- Peter:....•Flashback of all the things he suffered after becoming Spider-Man•...For someone who's been spying on me, you don't know anything about my life
And here I thought Thompson was the biggest bully Peter ever had to deal with. And goes to show how terrifying a mere bully could be if given the chance to be something even worse.
During this video when you were talking about the comic I was like “what the fuck?”. But not in a “what the fuck! This is terrifying but great!” it was more like “What the fuck were the writers thinking?”. Though when I saw the name “Ennis” which most likely stands for Garth Ennis, that explained a lot about the story.
Everything else worked for a dark minor villain, but the heavy implication he had sex with his own father in the guise of his mother before transferring bodies was unnecessary. I also feel like while beating Peter with the element of surprise with his coworker’s body was one thing, the second fight shouldn’t have been so close. I could excuse the wooden chair with the paralyzing venom, but Carl doing well enough to give a smug speech over a wounded Peter feels kind of like Ennis doing his usual “Superheroes bad” thing.
The Thousand is like if Spiders-man was evil and more body horror focused. At least Spiders-man's body is made up of tiny spiders, unlike Carl's giant mutants.... yeesh.
We should have more comics about him: in this new issue, Cigarette Citizen stops a robbery by temporarily blinding the criminal with a breath of smoke, with the police on the scene after it clears up!
Spider man’s spider sense tells him whenever anyone is around when he unmasks his identity, so how exactly did this guy follow him around and see all this will out peter being alerted?
@@jacobburt1523 Thing is, he found out his identity before he became the thousand. It's either Garth Ennis forgot about that part of the spider sense or his spider senses didn't see carl as a threat anymore because peter has outgrown him as a person.
Heard about this villain. He's pretty disgusting in both his abilities and personality. He doesn't feel like a Spider-Man villain and just seems over the top edgy. Not surprising considering this story was written by the edgelord himself, Garth Ennis.
Call me crazy, but I could have sworn it ended with Peter tricking him into getting eaten by birds. It might've been a different villain in hindsight, but I'm fairly certain I remember something like that.
This is honestly one of my favourite Spider-Man comics/storylines, especially the ending! The Thousand wanted nothing more than to consume Parker and take his place as Spider-Man, getting all the recognition he thought he deserved. Yet, by the end of the story, he dies with barely anyone knowing he even existed.
I like to think (with how prepared Carl seemed) he made some spider lay eggs in either a skin suit or just some corner. Which wouldmark the return of the thousand…
In Polish "worm" means not only that one animal burrowing underground but some people use it to describe an entire insect group as a whole. Because of this death is more ironic, since the true hopeless "worm" was Carl all along
Oh wow, you actually unlocked a very old memory for me with this video. I actually had this comic when I was a kid, but had completely forgotten about it. I started to remember it as I watched the video and yeah, it's still as gross and disturbing as it was back then. I absolutely love the artstyle for this comic, and the ending with the spider getting stomped is so freaking good!
this is a terrifying story that will live in my brain forever now. It won't leave until the day I die, thank you for showing me this. I love your content btw!
forgetting the creepiness of the spider ability, it's actually a pretty unique and interesting ability. I've always wondered if there was like a person with superpowers that had an ability that could only be used in an "evil" kind of way, but tried their hardest to be a hero. Like there isn't anything hero-like of eating someones insides and taking their skin as your own.
Closest thing I ever found to an objectively evil power was in starship troopers where one of the giant bug eats brains with a spiked tongue and learns the knowledge held in the brain it ate. That was what made me side with the humans despite the directors intent. But as for Human equivalents to Carl look up spidersman (11580) or the bride of nine spiders for more heroic takes on the power of worms that walk. Also red mask from grant Morrison’s animal man. Tragic story.
Rogue's power is pretty nasty when you take a closer look. It's basicaly some sort of aura leeching/stealing. IS someone amoral/pschotic got her power the could be pretty scary.
I think in some portrayals, Rogue from X-Men unwillingly kills the people she takes memories/powers from when she touches them, if she doesn't return them quickly enough or whatever, even if she did it by accident. I don't know enough about X-Men to be certain but I'm pretty sure she's been written that way a few times. She's usually shown to be scared of using her powers just in case something goes wrong so she's def an edge case version of that idea imo. See also the end of huggbees' snowflame video where he suggests a concept for snowflame as a tragic hero who could only ever activate his superpowers by snorting cocaine, thereby slowly killing himself just to keep saving the day. That would be a cool one of it were actually done
I remember Reading this in 2008/2009, but I only could read First 5/7 pages and I didn't understand English well so I just assumed he was that victim in third issue. After checking Wiki, I mistakingly wrote it as Peter's friend who Got possessed by those spiders. After finding IT out, I found out he was worse than Flash.
"Ron was going to be spiders. He just was. He wasn't proud of that, but it was going to be hard to not have spiders all over his body after all is said and done." -- that one AI that tried to write a harry potter story
Really like this guy as a villain hopefully he returns someday like another of his spiders surviving or something. He's genuinely creepy and could fuck with Spiderman in a lot of ways.
My only problem is that a powerful Spider-man who fought multiple villains at once, lifted cars etc.. was having problem to fight against Carl. No matter the spiders and living suit it was just silly and made it hard to me to take it seriously. The ending was gold tho, one pathetic death for one pathetic guy
To see what the good guy version of this would be, follow Spiders-man, thats right, spiders plural. He's the version of spiderman where Peter Parker is devoured by a swarm of radioactive spiders which then become controlled by his consciousness
Honestly I loved the ending. It's so fucking well written, but I think it'd be interesting if a Thousand got a redemption arc. Think about it. Instead of being happy that he killed his mom, he could be terrified but still go on to try and kill Peter by distracting or disassociating himself but I feel Parker's the kind of guy to convince him to mature. The fun part is that he could go through all of the good-bad rankings because you don't change instantly. Him getting awful shit happening to himself in order to gradually mature would be realistic and unique.
Flash Thomson WAS the bully for Peter Parker but he has grown more mature when he became a military and later became Agent Venom because he looked up to Spider-Man’s heroic act which I have respect him…for Carl I don’t think he worthy as hero/villain but rather a coward, pity and delusional man has no future..no respect for him.
Flash is the kind of guy who is a stupid little shit as a teenager but manages to successfully grow out of it into an adult and regret the way he behaved. Carl is the kind of stupid little shit who doesn't ever grows out of it, because for somebody like him Highschool will always be the moment he peaked and the only time in his life he could feel better than others.
Not only is it utterly horrifying, the power set doesn't stand up to scrutiny once fridge logic kicks in. At least not the initial explanation of it's manifestation.
"Give me rent" saved Peter's life
More like gave him motivation, XD
i fix this dann door when you save my life.
"You get your rent when you FIX THIS DAMN SPIDER INFESTATION!"
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@@dabbabyy nooooo lol 😢
I love how he didn't get beaten in a spectacular manner, with some big explosion or after a big hero speech, he just got stomped by a random civilian, who didn't even so much as care about him. A shitty death for a shitty person.
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@@mariomario3166 oogie boogie got killed by Santa
Thats something
@@mega6662 The same person he kidnapped
Reminds me to Kira Yoshikage getting his neck broken by ambulance car.
@@starkillaa2444 yes a jojo reference!
He was always a monster. The spider just made it external.
yup the webs ripped off his skin and revealed his true image
*Internal
Well said.
@@ezzedomusicchannelnah, his inner self would be even uglier.
Whoooaaa I can’t believe how cool and deep and smart you are. You took what the writers wrote and like typed it out in words and it was like whaaaat the bully was a bad guy, and the spider made his insides bad, and so now it’s like yeah the guy’s metaphorical bad insides are now a literal bad inside so it’s like whaaaat that’s so crazy and deep and just so cool wow man. I love it. Can we get you a job as a Marvel writer? I think you’d be just as talented as the person who wrote Disney Star Wars or Multiverse of Madness or The Room. It’s just so cool how you were able to write out the thing the writers also wrote out. The guy was always a monster, but now he’s a spider monster. It’s so genius and like just cool and deep how more people aren’t freaking out and in pure awe and super impressed with
this is unreal. Think about it. This bully guy was bad at the start right? But then he became this spider monster thing, and then his INSIDES became bad, and so this means that now he’s like both bad on the inside and the outside…wait when did he get bad on the outside? Oh yeah yeah he was always bad so yeh that was him being bad on the outside and then the spider turned his inside bad. Yeah sorry I missed it for a second but yeah we’re all set it now. Damn that’s so cool and deep and smart. I wonder if the writers even realize this or if it’s just you’re so smart as a commenter than you’ve elevated their work into a new level by stating how the monster turned him bad on the outside or inside or whatever and than that made the monster become bad on the monster’s inside which means that the monster was actually good the whole time. Omg 😱 I can’t believe I just put that together I’m so deep holy crap I have to go write this down. The monster was actually a good because of the bad being multiplied against the inside of itself this made it become good but it was actually good the whole time omg 😳 this is making so much sense now. I have to start writing my own comic now
Beware of Spider-Man’s most dangerous, revolting, and terrifying foe yet…
“Carl”.
Mr Beast:C(K)arl are dumb :))
Carl Wheezer, my favorite Spider-Man villain.
Insert llamas wearing hats joke.
@@changvasejarik62 ‘Carl, there’s a dead human in our house’
I just imagine Carl from ATHF.
More villains should end like this, unknowingly killed by casual incidents. It’s so damn fulfilling.
It's like one of those comedy shows where they have the villain say their speech and they immediately dies
Yoshikage Kira from Jojo's. Ran over by an ambulance that was coming to save him.
@@PingachuWarham there was an explosion. *his head popped*
@@A-TALKING-TOASTER I'm a God you filthy mortal! I will not tolerate this-"
*contemplates existance*
"Puny god"
Yeah. Except no. Not at all. I always feel cheated by endings like this except in specific cases where it's thematic. Doing it more would just be pure garbage to me because I actually LIKE good villains.
People like Carl always need someone to blame to hid their imperfections and insecurities he could've been as big as a hero like spider-man(albeit a terrifying and nightmare fuel one) look at flash Thompson he was once the same bully who picked on peter but he took responsibility of his life and past mistakes, became better person and a hero Agent Venom. Could've been Carl if he actually matured
Dont we all need that to some degree? That is why we love villains so we can project those same feelings onto them?
it just goes to show how horrifically far flash could've went if he didn't move on
flash wasn't really a physical bully from my recollection of the ditko comics. He was still a huge ahole though
He could have done any number of things, he existed as a hoard of spiders, the government would love to have someone on their payroll who could infiltrate not only a single enemy base but several at once.
At minimum if he played his cards right he was looking at becoming a valuable government contractor, information gatherer, and maybe even assassin, instead he chose to be petty.
@@Nyghtking True, as horrifying as his "gift" was he did get power, but power wasn't what he really wanted was it, he wanted what other people had.
He was driven by envy and the desire to take from other what he thought was owed to him. Without that he wouldn't even be a bug, just a hollow shell
That random citizen unknowingly became a hero
I think it's fitting how he gets unknowingly taken out by a random citizen instead of in an epic fight with Spider-Man. It's more pathetic.
The name of the guy who squashed what’s left of Carl is Jacob Hardly. Speaking of what’s left of Carl, the spider that Jacob squished wasn’t the only one that Carl survived through, as there’s another (albeit, unseen) spider that Carl’s currently possessing right now, and he’s still on the loose.
The fact that he ate the spider instead of just receiving a bite from it really shows how much an over-achiever he is in the terms of jealousy. Dude literally picked on Parker for no reason because he just wanted to do it for no reason, and when he sees Peter gain superpowers he then thinks he should've been the one to have them because he "deserved" to be a hero? Heck no. I'm pretty sure if he was the 1st person to get bit and gain spider man's powers he most likely wouldn't have used them for good anyway. If that was the case, I'd like to bet Peter would get himself bit by the spider as well just to take him down because that's what Peter is at his core between hero or villain. He'll always be the hero in his story
That actually happen in “Peter Parker had to destroy Spider Man”, where it takes place in a world where Flash Thompson was the one that bit by the spider.
At first, Peter wanted to help Flash to be a hero. But when Flash started to take things too far, Peter created robotic spider legs similar to Doc Ock’s tentacle arms to stop Flash and then was recruit by the Fantastic Four.
Even without getting bit by the spider, he is still capable of becoming a hero.
well that was his plan but when he found the spider it was already dead so he went with plan b and ate it's corpse.
@@Zack_Zander where can I read this????
@@Mexikirb
Well, I don't know "where" but I already provided the title. That should be more than enough for you to find it.
The way i would do the Thousand is be the negative part of the spider-force well the spider-god known as Anansi would pick Peter parker to be his champion knowing of his good heart and soul as Anansi would pick people with a pure heart to be his web-warriors well the Negative spider-force God would be Arachne who would pick people who seek amazement and the chance for greatness to be her champion and see Carl as her champion as Charl would be known as Spider-savage as a dark counterpart to peter parker and his role as Spider-man
What's sad is had Carl never ate the spider, he still would have turned out the same way. I wouldn't be surprised if he would have still tried to kill Peter for a petty reason.
No the sad thing is that there's no reason Carl got such a wildly different powerset than Peter or any Spiderfam.
He would have ended up as some small time thug or wife-beater or some other lowlife Peter webbed up and forgot all about five seconds later because Carl King never grew from being the violent little sadist. Meanwhile Peter Parker rose to be the hero everyone from Wolverine and Captain America to the Hulk respect and are proud to stand alongside
@@JonCrs10 because he ate the corpse. It’s likely the bite only gave a small amount of venom to give the powers of a spider, maybe more physical qualities depending on the person. But he had the whole thing in his system, so he became full spider…at least his insides
The thousand ended dying as he lived, sad, pathetic, and alone, squashed like the disgusting parasite he was.
Mrs. Patterson didn't deserve any of that, she could've had a better life but at least she can rest easy knowing that the sick bastard will never be able to harm anyone again.
Spider-Man literally standing up to a bully, “I’m not afraid of you”, to the most terrifying opponent he had ever seen yet. That is what Peter truly was on the inside: a hero. And no matter whose body Carl was in, he was still just the same bully on the inside. Literally and figuratively. Great writing. ✍️
Yeah, but I think Carl was far from Peter’s most terrifying enemy. He’s not half as scary as Green Goblin, Carnage, Morlun, etc.
Spidey's life is far from perfect🕷️....this guy took jealousy to a whole new level 🤦🏽♂️
He should be thankful he didn't get Deadpool's perspective and realize that everybody's suffering and struggle is really just for entertainment
1. He is constantly broke and is always late on his rent.
2. He has to care for an elderly aunt.
3. He works for a trigger-tempered asshole who constantly sh[_]ts on his name.
4. He can't keep a girlfriend.
5. He's got like 80 supervillains to deal with.
Fun Fact: Garth Ennis, the creator of The Boys, wrote this very story.
Glad he didn't kill Spidey off.
That explains a lot
Knowing that bit of info, I'm surprised spiderman didn't die
Ennis actually likes Spider-Man from what I remember, so it makes sense the story ended up good while still being horrifying and edgy. When the man writes comics well, he really nails it. The problem is that he needs a team of other writers and editors around him to hold him back, cause otherwise he goes all in and his stories crash and burn spectacularly. It’s why the original comics for The Boys is so disliked, cause it wastes tons of good ideas in favour of gratuitous sex and violence just for the sake of showing the Supes as depraved, without any nuance that the show luckily added. Then there’s Crossed, which I’m too terrified to read myself cause I’ve heard it’s much worse, which is a shame cause the premise interests me.
Oh that's reassuring, so Garth Ennis likes superman and Spider-Man
You know what this makes me wanna see? The Thousand vs Spiders-Man.
Like imagine, Thousand is about to rip open a hole into the guy's mask, and instead of a human mouth, another horde of spiders come out and whoops the evil spider horde's ass.
That is…. Awesome!
spider war
Would actually read that
Carl is kinda scary when you think about it. Since he’s been watching a lot of Peters encounters with his villians he could have easily allied with the more psychotic villians like the Green Goblin or kill him while he was either weakened or knocked out during one of his many fights with his villians
I doubt he was smart enough to though
@@ajb6359 also his ego was probably too big to share the victory with another villain
keep in mind that he WANTS peter's life, including figthing badass villains, so allying with them would beat the purpose of it.
The scariest part is that he was able to successfully stalk Peter with what I'd imagine is semi malicious intent, he was able to bypass his spider sense
@@allgoodinny8487 Probably because he ate the radioactive spider
This story bothers me in such a minor way because like….it feels like instead of making Carl strong enough to pose a threat to spider man, if feels like they just made spidey weaker? Like, we’ve seen Peter lift trains, stop planes, and go toe to toe with some seriously badass villains, and Carl just don’t feel up to snuff. Don’t get me wrong, he absolutely COULD’VE been, he’s got an imposing and terrifying power, and his obsession with Peter is quite imposing, but he just didn’t seem like somebody who should be able to straight up BEAT him in a fight. I feel like this is most encapsulated by the restraints he puts on Peter because like…he has to “muster his strength” to bust out of a flimsy wooden chair and a bit of rope? I just don’t buy it.
he should have been able to immediately break out of those bindings with extremely little effort, I agree it just doesn't make sense
the poison tho
Didn't Carl say he poisoned him?
@@jackeibon884 He has been drugged by Kraven (it was enough to kill a elephant btw) before and all it did was make him dizzy.
But maybe the poison is more potent that I guess.
Garth Ennis wrote it
Carl had two chances to take Peter's body, first when he's disguised as miss patton, second when he paralysed spiderman
to quote discworld: "Pray that when your lfie is at another's mercy, it is at the hands of an evil man. Because Evil men like power, especially power over others, and so he'll talk. He'll put off your death like another would savour the flavour of a cigar. So pray you're at the mercy of an evil man, because a good man would kill you without a second thought."
Wouldn’t his spider sense protect him from Patton?
@@naniwo4438 he somehow bypassed peter's spider sense when he was stalking him multiple times
@@mikadosannoji553 that is cuz he is literally not human not magic not shit he is literally a 1000 spiders that have a hivemind DNA so carl can control them even if he is technically dead
Villanova gotta monolog
I couldn't recommend this comic enough. Tangled Web of Spider-Man is one my all-time favorites, presenting not just regular Spider-Man stories, but putting regular folks of NY front. A little kid who has sick mother, J Jonah Jameson, Frog Man, some guy working under Kingpin... almost all of the issues are pure gold. If this story arc is more disturbing, the rest is more comedic and heartwarming, it really needs more attention!
That ending was peak irony.
that was an awesome ending. just perfect to prove how much of a pathetic bug he always was.
The Thousand's superpower really matches his personality. Strong but weak, seeking to be feared, instead of respected. The lies that he told himself (He deserves Spider-Man's powers, he had to eat his girlfriend, etc.) made him fall deeper into this depravation of attention seeking that turned into "plan B" (eating the spider that bit Peter), turning him into this villain that perfectly represents his imperfections & flaws. The Thousand is fear, but is afraid. The Thousand is strong together, but weak when by itself. It's a great story with a great narrative and an even more satisfying death.
Carl will never bug Peter ever again.
Peter was just too fly for him.
I love that ending. You step on others until some day you're on the receiving end and catch a boot to big for you to handle.
A complete normal guy just unknowingly saved and SpiderMan. He’s the true hero of this story.
This has gotta be the most disgusting villain I've ever known, not only in looks but also just how he is an awful person in general, at least he got what he deserved and honestly in the most ironic way possible.
I wonder if this guy ever interacted with Flash Thompson because both of them were bullies and I can see Flash initially hanging out with him until eventually realizing that oh crap this guy is going too far
The THousand is basically "what if Flash Thompson WASN'T the big bully in Peter's life?"
About that, Flash was a bully, but a morally good one, instead of becoming a villain with his powers as Agent Venom, he became a hero. Whenever bullying Parker, he always had a limit, and tried to keep it as little as teasing or slightly above that.
flash would threw this guy into a trash can if he sees him. unlike peter this guy straight up have no good quality about him.
I get the feeling that Carl was too much of a creep for Flash to hang out with. Flash was popular. According to Peter, though, Carl had no friends.
I knew a kid at my school who got me annoyed with him being a crybaby about things But never Bully him as being a bully will make you No better than the people who think they can do whatever they want
You can’t convince me that Spiders-Man (The Spider-Man variant that’s a swarm of spiders) is just a heroic version of The Thousand.
Well, his power isn't about going into others.
The guy is like Reverse Flash if you removed all of his enjoyable charismatic traits and just made him completely despicable
>Reverse Flash
Oh, no. Carl truly is Eobard Thawne
Carl:Those powers should be mine!,Your life is perfect just because of them-
Peter:....•Flashback of all the things he suffered after becoming Spider-Man•...For someone who's been spying on me, you don't know anything about my life
This is not the "Man spider" I was expecting😭
I actually would prefer if it was a humanoid spider instead of whatever the hell this is.
@@MetalHopper yh but Man-spider doesnt have any powers so itd be pretty boring... unless youre smosh ofc
@@madmannn9576and Peter already became Man spider several times why repeat that ?
Pretty sure this was written by Garth ennis - the guy who did the boys, crossed, and preacher. Spider-Man is one of the only superheroes he likes lmao
Along with Superman and Wonder Woman
This guy Carl takes "stalking" to a whole new level....and that's creepy af
Venom: and I thought I was the creepy stalker
Venom: and we thought we're the creepy stalker
The worst villains are often the most insecure.
Carl King more than fits the bill.
And here I thought Thompson was the biggest bully Peter ever had to deal with.
And goes to show how terrifying a mere bully could be if given the chance to be something even worse.
At least Flash ends up maturing. Plus, I'm pretty sure he had a limit to bullying.
Now I’m wondering about Wolverine’s school bully…….
Wolverine ran away from home when he was young moving from town to town
The closet thing he has to a bully is Sabretooth
I'm pretty sure his childhood bully was Dog Logan.
During this video when you were talking about the comic I was like “what the fuck?”. But not in a “what the fuck! This is terrifying but great!” it was more like “What the fuck were the writers thinking?”. Though when I saw the name “Ennis” which most likely stands for Garth Ennis, that explained a lot about the story.
Everything else worked for a dark minor villain, but the heavy implication he had sex with his own father in the guise of his mother before transferring bodies was unnecessary.
I also feel like while beating Peter with the element of surprise with his coworker’s body was one thing, the second fight shouldn’t have been so close. I could excuse the wooden chair with the paralyzing venom, but Carl doing well enough to give a smug speech over a wounded Peter feels kind of like Ennis doing his usual “Superheroes bad” thing.
It was written by a guy who hates all superheroes but Superman and Batman
@@nekogamer2508 actually he loved spiderman but seemingly hate superman with his core.
@@sunshineskystar If hate superman then why did he write for him?
Carl is his self insert
5:30 Carl acting a bit sus
If Mr. Dicovitch was peters landlord at the time, the thousand wouldn’t stand a chance.
I remember a theory of Mr. Ditkovich actually being a retired Kraven the Hunter.
5:11
Well he clearly hasn't been paying that much attention to Peter's life, cause Peter's life SUCKS!
Someone actually put their fetish into a spider-man comic.... again.
yeah i wanna know the first time
@dark my guess is probably somewhere in ultimate spiderman
Having spiders in side people is a thing that turns people on?
@@takiyeet6946 makes sense lol
@dark the one where sandman inflate spiderman from the inside.
Carl is in hell being tourtured day and night
Peter just wanted to beat his landlords ass
Man, what kind of messed up mind would conceived such a vile villain for Spidey...(seeing the name in the cover)... ooohhh right, I get it now.
Man talk about sadistic and petty incarnate
The ending was satisfying, as horrifying the rest of this was.
Imagine being a Super Villian, with the power to reek so much havoc onto the world, and a Random Dude who needs a Cig just steps on you.
Yeah. Talk About Karma Being A Bitch
“ the guy absolutely triggers my arachnophobia “ *YOU’RE READING A SPIDER MAN COMIC, DUDE. WHAT THE HELL DID YOU EXPECT?*
"Or killing somebody just because he didn't like his name.."
The dude from tale tale heart: "We, my friend, we will get along very well.."
Just found out that Garth Ennis of the original The Boys comic wrote this. And that explains so much.
Surprisingly Spider-man is one of the few superheroes Ennis tolerates
This is how it should be with all bullies - have a meaningless end.
The Thousand is like if Spiders-man was evil and more body horror focused. At least Spiders-man's body is made up of tiny spiders, unlike Carl's giant mutants.... yeesh.
cigarette citizen is a fucking hero, man.
We should have more comics about him: in this new issue, Cigarette Citizen stops a robbery by temporarily blinding the criminal with a breath of smoke, with the police on the scene after it clears up!
Spider man’s spider sense tells him whenever anyone is around when he unmasks his identity, so how exactly did this guy follow him around and see all this will out peter being alerted?
Carl's become a sentient cluster of spiders, this might have given him a back door for the spider sense.
@@jacobburt1523 Nah. Anything besides venom because of their bonding time together registers as a threat to his spider sense.
@@jacobburt1523 Thing is, he found out his identity before he became the thousand. It's either Garth Ennis forgot about that part of the spider sense or his spider senses didn't see carl as a threat anymore because peter has outgrown him as a person.
@@wyattlundrigan4740 there are a number of thing that can bypass Peter's spider sense; Aunt May gets past it because of how close she and Peter are.
@@MASTERJCLIPs I wouldn't entirely put either explanation past Garth, but I'm sure if you asked him he'd probably say it's the latter.
Heard about this villain. He's pretty disgusting in both his abilities and personality. He doesn't feel like a Spider-Man villain and just seems over the top edgy. Not surprising considering this story was written by the edgelord himself, Garth Ennis.
Call me crazy, but I could have sworn it ended with Peter tricking him into getting eaten by birds. It might've been a different villain in hindsight, but I'm fairly certain I remember something like that.
Zamn
This is honestly one of my favourite Spider-Man comics/storylines, especially the ending! The Thousand wanted nothing more than to consume Parker and take his place as Spider-Man, getting all the recognition he thought he deserved. Yet, by the end of the story, he dies with barely anyone knowing he even existed.
The alternate title is Spider-Man's School bully is nightmare fuel Lol
This makes me scared of small bugs or other small animals to come near my body entrances
I like to think (with how prepared Carl seemed) he made some spider lay eggs in either a skin suit or just some corner. Which wouldmark the return of the thousand…
So just kinky oviposition
This villain is arachnophobia incarnate.
In Polish "worm" means not only that one animal burrowing underground but some people use it to describe an entire insect group as a whole. Because of this death is more ironic, since the true hopeless "worm" was Carl all along
When he bit the spider, I was disappointed he didnt turn into Man-spider.
Also technically speaking he's the first person to know Peter's secret identity...
Jit got the most disrespectful death😂
Dear god, I remember the transformation scenes in the comic as a kid, those traumatized me.
It woullndt be so messed up if it wasnt for the fact that for each person carl takes as a skin suit he kills
Apparently this story was written by Garth Ennis. Of course it was written by him; he couldn't write his villains to be non-edgy to save his life
Oh wow, you actually unlocked a very old memory for me with this video. I actually had this comic when I was a kid, but had completely forgotten about it. I started to remember it as I watched the video and yeah, it's still as gross and disturbing as it was back then. I absolutely love the artstyle for this comic, and the ending with the spider getting stomped is so freaking good!
this is a terrifying story that will live in my brain forever now. It won't leave until the day I die, thank you for showing me this. I love your content btw!
man the people who make some of these spiderman stories are sick
2:06 bro this frame is nuts
Thats quite the terrifying villain especially if he can control a 1000 people at onve
forgetting the creepiness of the spider ability, it's actually a pretty unique and interesting ability. I've always wondered if there was like a person with superpowers that had an ability that could only be used in an "evil" kind of way, but tried their hardest to be a hero. Like there isn't anything hero-like of eating someones insides and taking their skin as your own.
Closest thing I ever found to an objectively evil power was in starship troopers where one of the giant bug eats brains with a spiked tongue and learns the knowledge held in the brain it ate.
That was what made me side with the humans despite the directors intent.
But as for Human equivalents to Carl look up spidersman (11580) or the bride of nine spiders for more heroic takes on the power of worms that walk.
Also red mask from grant Morrison’s animal man.
Tragic story.
Just look at some of the vampire heroes, like Morbius.
@@ThePinkMan its morbin time
Rogue's power is pretty nasty when you take a closer look.
It's basicaly some sort of aura leeching/stealing.
IS someone amoral/pschotic got her power the could be pretty scary.
I think in some portrayals, Rogue from X-Men unwillingly kills the people she takes memories/powers from when she touches them, if she doesn't return them quickly enough or whatever, even if she did it by accident. I don't know enough about X-Men to be certain but I'm pretty sure she's been written that way a few times. She's usually shown to be scared of using her powers just in case something goes wrong so she's def an edge case version of that idea imo.
See also the end of huggbees' snowflame video where he suggests a concept for snowflame as a tragic hero who could only ever activate his superpowers by snorting cocaine, thereby slowly killing himself just to keep saving the day. That would be a cool one of it were actually done
The pettier the person, the scarier they are.
I like how Peter actually won
I really enjoyed how most of spideys villains know Peter.
I remember Reading this in 2008/2009, but I only could read First 5/7 pages and I didn't understand English well so I just assumed he was that victim in third issue. After checking Wiki, I mistakingly wrote it as Peter's friend who Got possessed by those spiders.
After finding IT out, I found out he was worse than Flash.
"Ron was going to be spiders. He just was. He wasn't proud of that, but it was going to be hard to not have spiders all over his body after all is said and done."
-- that one AI that tried to write a harry potter story
I’m so glad this is a one off villain
I think he was always meant to be, given the way he was created 💀
Really like this guy as a villain hopefully he returns someday like another of his spiders surviving or something. He's genuinely creepy and could fuck with Spiderman in a lot of ways.
My only problem is that a powerful Spider-man who fought multiple villains at once, lifted cars etc.. was having problem to fight against Carl. No matter the spiders and living suit it was just silly and made it hard to me to take it seriously. The ending was gold tho, one pathetic death for one pathetic guy
I think he was in similar strength to him because of the spiders being the same super powered one's that bit Peter
Of course it’s a Gareth Ennis story 😂
To see what the good guy version of this would be, follow Spiders-man, thats right, spiders plural. He's the version of spiderman where Peter Parker is devoured by a swarm of radioactive spiders which then become controlled by his consciousness
Whether he's Peter Parker in high school or Spiderman as an adult, the man's not afraid of a bully.
The virgin the thousand vs the chad spidersman
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Pov: almost every Twitter user
I had this comic as a kid and it terrified the hell out of me
It's scary yes but good
I like to think that Carl and flash knew each other but flash stopped hanging with him because he takes it to far
Honestly I loved the ending. It's so fucking well written, but I think it'd be interesting if a Thousand got a redemption arc.
Think about it. Instead of being happy that he killed his mom, he could be terrified but still go on to try and kill Peter by distracting or disassociating himself but I feel Parker's the kind of guy to convince him to mature.
The fun part is that he could go through all of the good-bad rankings because you don't change instantly. Him getting awful shit happening to himself in order to gradually mature would be realistic and unique.
Peter Parker: is just a dream 😳
Spiders Man, Spiders Man
Does what mutant spiders can
Man remade, nightmare fuel
From Peter's life in school
Look out, here comes the Spiders Man
Flash Thomson WAS the bully for Peter Parker but he has grown more mature when he became a military and later became Agent Venom because he looked up to Spider-Man’s heroic act which I have respect him…for Carl I don’t think he worthy as hero/villain but rather a coward, pity and delusional man has no future..no respect for him.
Flash is the kind of guy who is a stupid little shit as a teenager but manages to successfully grow out of it into an adult and regret the way he behaved. Carl is the kind of stupid little shit who doesn't ever grows out of it, because for somebody like him Highschool will always be the moment he peaked and the only time in his life he could feel better than others.
My boy just stepped on a Supervillain and smoked a blunt and kept it moving lol what a OG
I want junji ito to do an adaptation of this so much
truly terrifying
This man about a be “The thousand” fr
TL;DR: It's a bunch of spiders in a trenchcoat pretending to be a villain
Not only is it utterly horrifying, the power set doesn't stand up to scrutiny once fridge logic kicks in. At least not the initial explanation of it's manifestation.
Sounds like he needs Spiders-Man.
(It's just a bunch of spiders in a Spider-Man costume.)
im sure that even flash thompson would go "jesus christ man that's too far"