Kara, I have spent almost 25 years working in musical theatre (*re for the art, *er for the building), and I loved your book as well. And your appearances on Chris Wallace’s show. And every time you talk to Don Lemon. Big fan.
But Putin is much much smarter and devious than Trump about controlling his Oligarchs. The American Oligarchs can influence Trump because they are smarter than he is and he admires their wealth .
Putin isn't all that smart. He simply threatened the main oligarch with prison and since the russian legal system is so garbage, he could easily carry out the threats, so they fall in line.
I love the youtube additions to the pod. It adds just a bit more context. Are you guys planning on getting out of the US for a podcast or even get a bit of a look at Europe ? I'm over there and I really like the perspective you give. Also... I know this is unrelated but I completely approve the boose on the shelf of Paul Krugman's shelf (I'm more of a whisky person).
I absolutely admire Kara Swisher’s insight, knowledge, awareness, and almost patronizing low key serious humor regarding the billionaires of tech who are so closely married to their pedantry but subjugate themselves to a angry simpleton 🫣
It kills me how they can just act like everyone is over reacting any time there’s the slightest pushback or expectation of equal protection. And everyone is just like, okay.
Andreeson is "terrified" of government functionality born in the FDR era, But, he was really, really, really insistent the FDIC assure his fiat money holdings when the tech bros set off a bank run at Silicon Valley And, he was at the origin of Synapse which collapsed leaving people unable to retrieve the fiat money they had placed with his creation
It’s not a censorship. It’s lying. If you’re in the news or you’re a reporter, you can’t lie. He has more than enough actual bad things you can say about him. But you can’t lie.
Even the judge called it rape. New York has a very narrow definition of rape and that why the final charge was not rape. It was determined that trump penetrated E Jean Carroll, but could not prove it was his penis and not his finger, and only penetration with a penis is considered rape by NY law.
LOVE PIVOT!!! HIGHEST LEVELS OF INTELLIGENT TRUTH-SEEKING DEBATE, KNOWLEDGE & DISCUSSION AT A VERY HIGH LEVELS. THANK YOU KARA!!! PLUS YOU ARE HILARIOUSLY FUNNY/YOUR RAPIER WIT & ALSO SCOTT'S INSIGHTS ARE BLOODY BRILLIANT! (AND NO I'M NOT SCREAMING W ALL CAPS... CAN'T FIND MY GLASSES) :)
Wait a minute... Trump And a library?? That's just the most hilarious thing I've heard all day. He hasn't read a book forever, unless it was "How to Bully and screw the next guy to get what I want." That will be released on January 20th.😔
Klugman has been around awhile. I enjoyed him on Charlie Rose. Hopefully Charlie has him back on. Great interview by Kara. She a bold voice and she’s important. I hope Scott finds his voice, I know he’s under a lot of pressure to tow the line
He has much more correct advice and analysis than wrong. He’s been around awhile. I trust him more than Scott, who’s Narcissism and self interest cloud his judgement
Check out the McKinley presidency.. Teddy wasn’t elected.. he was placed as a powerless vice president. Unfortunately, McKinley died and Teddy got power after all.
Kara, LOVE your listening to you and appreciate your perspective . Please have Paul Krugman on more often on more often . I would MUCH rather listen to people like him than Scott. I find Scott's perspective and his personality hard to listen to and relate to . PLEASE REPLACE SCOTT His personality is flat and his takes are NOT as deep or intelligent as other people. THOM HARTMAN would be great to have on Peace through Justice , From , Oakland , Ca
With all due respect, I think Scott is a good balance with Kara. I have noticed Kara’s witty comebacks against Scott, which are laced with funny & snarky comments. Scott is a smart man, that Kara can upstage him any time. It’s a unique chemistry. As for Paul Krugman, I agree with your assessment. Bring him on more often. Thom Hartmann is great, too.
@@pw44salem Hi , I appreciate your perspective, but personally having heard his takes on other platforms . I found him intelligent in a " certain way " , but not a deep thinker and lacking in historical and political history . He's still a " tech bro " Being a Public School Teacher in South Berkeley / Oakland living paycheck to paycheck . I can FEEL and SEE the extremely NEGATIVE influence they've had on ALL our communities who aren't in their economy.Too many of us have been irreparably harmed by it = I don't have the necessary respect to listen when he's on take care
Maybe there hasn’t been anyone like Trump or Musk in the government is because our oligarchs realized that government and business have completely different missions. Governments are not formed to make money so why would an astute businessman want to make the change?
“Culture” that’s the word that was missing from this discussion. The Silicon Valley is developing a culture: rooted in philosophical thought. Something that cannot develop in China.
LOL!!! That's cute . Everyone who lives near or around Silicon Valley and it's " Tech Bro's " know .Silicon's Valley's " culture " is only GREED and NARCISSISM. That's ALL it's ever been The end
Silicon Valley is a location however also a place where people with a crazy idea gets funded. Vs rest of country with more proven tech and business model doesn’t. Ultimate frat boy old money economy play. Not the recast of SF, California, nor USA.
@@iggexec the Silicon Valley is an emerging cultural center. It will give rise to new churches. Churches of Silicon Valley. Leaders. Tech Teachers, not “bros”
While I have a deep respect for both of you, these types of conversations that keep coming fail to contextualize before threat assessments. The fact is, as Paul knows and has been striving to protect, that the neo classic capitalism structure is on the verge of collapse. Not just because of the incoming administration, but also, because of every administration since 2015’s misunderstanding of the nature of technology and the reality of it’s influence-as Ms Warren and Pelosi have been so vehemently trying to stifle innovation through shenanigans and devices to forestall the very people that have supported them. I, like many liberals on the west coast feel very betrayed by either a misunderstanding or a deliberate attack on the very driver to a greener more progressive future. Calling someone like me and millions of others “tech-bros” does nothing to bridge this divide and furthers the narrative of the right, though they seem to be the only party acknowledging this future. The currency flow is going to change Paul, stop promoting something that no longer will work for the sake of the machine. Peace and love to you both.
Trump is the same person today that he was when he was seven he's a brat. I don't know why people keep giving him what he wants all the time. Learn to say no.
These tech bros don’t understand what AI is doing in Software Development. In 3 weeks I have put together a social platform using o1. In three years new software products that don’t rely on advertising business models and doom scrolling will be created by poor men like me in our basements living in isolated countries that no one thinks about around the world. We may not have the bank roll for storage capacity, but if people are willing to pay $5 a month for social platform that has zero functionality related to ads we don’t want to see and more pictures of our friends, Zuck and the rest of these metaverse numnuts are in deep shit.
C’mon!
Didn’t the horse already effectively “leave the barn” years ago with”Citizens United”?
Yes. The battle ended with those court cases. The ones that empowered corporations as people and sark money in politics.
Yes!
Kara, I have spent almost 25 years working in musical theatre (*re for the art, *er for the building), and I loved your book as well. And your appearances on Chris Wallace’s show. And every time you talk to Don Lemon. Big fan.
Kakistocracy ('shit government) - the Greeks nailed it.
But Putin is much much smarter and devious than Trump about controlling his Oligarchs. The American Oligarchs can influence Trump because they are smarter than he is and he admires their wealth .
Putin isn't all that smart. He simply threatened the main oligarch with prison and since the russian legal system is so garbage, he could easily carry out the threats, so they fall in line.
And what Putin gives, Putin can take away. Also, Putin is Richer than all the Russian Oligarchs. Trump isn't even close.
Paul Krugman!!!! Great choice. He should start a podcast.
#2026 is our next point of contact with Democracy. Vote Accordingly.
What first woman president are you going to force us to vote for next Bernie Sanders in a dress?
Great discussion--thanks for this.
Kara, after nearly 40 years in IT, I absolutely loved your book. And am really getting into your podcasts now. :-)
I did as well!
what a wise man
Two of my favorite people! Thank you.
I love the youtube additions to the pod. It adds just a bit more context. Are you guys planning on getting out of the US for a podcast or even get a bit of a look at Europe ? I'm over there and I really like the perspective you give.
Also... I know this is unrelated but I completely approve the boose on the shelf of Paul Krugman's shelf (I'm more of a whisky person).
I noticed that too.I think that's fever tree water? v
I absolutely admire Kara Swisher’s insight, knowledge, awareness, and almost patronizing low key serious humor regarding the billionaires of tech who are so closely married to their pedantry but subjugate themselves to a angry simpleton 🫣
Appreciate the discourse between two thoughtful and intelligent people. 👍
Thank you, Kara and Paul.
10:20 Kara is just too cool for school.
So, a person convicted of "sexual assault" is rewarded with 15 million dollars -- and that is justice? I don't get it.
This is how a patriarchal society works, a competition based, alpha male, society
Human beings didn’t always live like this.
he was not convicted of sexual assault. pay attention to the details.
@@power2me1
If, not “sexual assault”, then explain it?🤦🏻♂️
@@pw44salem defamation
Didn't they (we)...????
It kills me how they can just act like everyone is over reacting any time there’s the slightest pushback or expectation of equal protection. And everyone is just like, okay.
A future trump library/museum ... That's one expensive tool shed.
It will be mostly full of Trump “memorabilia” like those crappy gold sneakers… and his sharpie scribbled “corrections” over reports by actual experts.
Irony is dead! tfg.DOES NOT read. v
Andreeson is "terrified" of government functionality born in the FDR era,
But, he was really, really, really insistent the FDIC assure his fiat money holdings when the tech bros set off a bank run at Silicon Valley
And, he was at the origin of Synapse which collapsed leaving people unable to retrieve the fiat money they had placed with his creation
Disgusting ABC and Disney!!!! Horrible move
It’s not a censorship. It’s lying. If you’re in the news or you’re a reporter, you can’t lie. He has more than enough actual bad things you can say about him. But you can’t lie.
Even the judge called it rape. New York has a very narrow definition of rape and that why the final charge was not rape. It was determined that trump penetrated E Jean Carroll, but could not prove it was his penis and not his finger, and only penetration with a penis is considered rape by NY law.
Not pay for play,A racket, extortion,A crime,plain and simple This is the degeneration we are sinking into
Mafia law is now out in the open
LOVE PIVOT!!! HIGHEST LEVELS OF INTELLIGENT TRUTH-SEEKING DEBATE, KNOWLEDGE & DISCUSSION AT A VERY HIGH LEVELS. THANK YOU KARA!!! PLUS YOU ARE HILARIOUSLY FUNNY/YOUR RAPIER WIT & ALSO SCOTT'S INSIGHTS ARE BLOODY BRILLIANT! (AND NO I'M NOT SCREAMING W ALL CAPS... CAN'T FIND MY GLASSES) :)
Wait a minute... Trump And a library?? That's just the most hilarious thing I've heard all day. He hasn't read a book forever, unless it was "How to Bully and screw the next guy to get what I want." That will be released on January 20th.😔
What's with all the liquor in Krugman's frame?
Let the man enjoy his retirement.
Liquor and a box of small headlights? Is he trying to advertise products?
he's worried about the world
I have no problem with that.
Its the art on the wall behind him that draws my attention
Mellon was the man 3 presidents sweved under.
Klugman has been around awhile. I enjoyed him on Charlie Rose. Hopefully Charlie has him back on. Great interview by Kara. She a bold voice and she’s important. I hope Scott finds his voice, I know he’s under a lot of pressure to tow the line
klugman is a bitter troll who hates progress. his prediction of the internet being a fad remains his best.
He has much more correct advice and analysis than wrong. He’s been around awhile. I trust him more than Scott, who’s Narcissism and self interest cloud his judgement
I respect Kara and she is an excellent explainer of the tech billionaires’ motives.
Check out the McKinley presidency.. Teddy wasn’t elected.. he was placed as a powerless vice president. Unfortunately, McKinley died and Teddy got power after all.
“Show off their belly…”-SWISHER 😂🤧
Kara, LOVE your listening to you and appreciate your perspective . Please have Paul Krugman on more often on more often . I would MUCH rather listen to people like him than Scott. I find Scott's perspective and his personality hard to listen to and relate to . PLEASE REPLACE SCOTT His personality is flat and his takes are NOT as deep or intelligent as other people. THOM HARTMAN would be great to have on Peace through Justice , From , Oakland , Ca
With all due respect, I think Scott is a good balance with Kara. I have noticed Kara’s witty comebacks against Scott, which are laced with funny & snarky comments. Scott is a smart man, that Kara can upstage him any time. It’s a unique chemistry.
As for Paul Krugman, I agree with your assessment. Bring him on more often.
Thom Hartmann is great, too.
@@pw44salem Hi , I appreciate your perspective, but personally having heard his takes on other platforms . I found him intelligent in a " certain way " , but not a deep thinker and lacking in historical and political history . He's still a " tech bro " Being a Public School Teacher in South Berkeley / Oakland living paycheck to paycheck . I can FEEL and SEE the extremely NEGATIVE influence they've had on ALL our communities who aren't in their economy.Too many of us have been irreparably harmed by it = I don't have the necessary respect to listen when he's on take care
You have to se things simple. Trade means democracy and peace. Tariffs mean authoritarianism and conflict
Whatever became of that investigation into how that child pornography got on Paul Krugman’s computer?
If we are looking at this in any way other than a way to get more in the world that is to come
9:00 FDR brought us closer to xxx? Auto transcript misses the word too.
Maybe there hasn’t been anyone like Trump or Musk in the government is because our oligarchs realized that government and business have completely different missions. Governments are not formed to make money so why would an astute businessman want to make the change?
Poster: Four bald guys.
Musk and Peter were not born here… no patriotism for USA.
Lawsuits are legal
5:20 despicable figure 😂😂😂
The weaponization of the civil judiciary started with gawker.
I forgot which a hole supplied the money for that one. v
Krugman? Isn't he an economist? Why is he being asked about rape v. sexual assault?
Can we ever come back from this Republican creepiness?
She asked him his opinion that's why He's also incredibly smart, are you butt hurt over that ? LOL!
we are indeed now in a broligarchy. the world is doomed im having a tough time finding any hope--in anything
It will be terrible!!! 🤦♂️🤦😡
Great chat guys!!
Love your tech “Burn Book” Swisher. ☀️😎🧟♀️🙏🏽
Kara would rather see the tech bros focus on pronouns rather than making this this country successful again
I’d rather have them work on tech that helps people… than in meddling with government policies that only benefit them and their businesses.
is Krugman promoting alcohol consumption?
Kleptocracy - Gen Z Republican
Dude Is willfully oblivious to American history, read about Smedley Buttler
Econ ain’t real bro.
Why did ABC agree to pay Trump $15 mil ? Heard that the next one to pay Trump will be MSNBC. $150 mil ? 😂
They want him off their backs and be in his good graces… for access to the WH.
“Culture” that’s the word that was missing from this discussion.
The Silicon Valley is developing a culture: rooted in philosophical thought.
Something that cannot develop in China.
LOL!!! That's cute . Everyone who lives near or around Silicon Valley and it's " Tech Bro's " know .Silicon's Valley's " culture " is only GREED and NARCISSISM. That's ALL it's ever been The end
Ever heard of Confucius?
@@arthurswanson3285 let me be more specific: a new religion.
China is hostile to religion. Not America
Silicon Valley is a location however also a place where people with a crazy idea gets funded. Vs rest of country with more proven tech and business model doesn’t. Ultimate frat boy old money economy play. Not the recast of SF, California, nor USA.
@@iggexec the Silicon Valley is an emerging cultural center. It will give rise to new churches.
Churches of Silicon Valley.
Leaders. Tech Teachers, not “bros”
This is a big Krugman bowl of "I don't know"
Please share your glorious knowledge about the future
@@SajidM12
Sure, give me a editorial show with a big salary and I'd be happy to.
This is a nonsense podcast if you don’t follow the law of rule. You cannot fabricate your own truth. Not subscribing.
Did Elon contact her to gloat? It sure sounds like his style. I would not have been as diplomatic in my answer to him.
In the case of Putin, at least he did things for the Russian people. Trump is just stomping all over the American people.
Putin did things for Russian people? My god
While I have a deep respect for both of you, these types of conversations that keep coming fail to contextualize before threat assessments. The fact is, as Paul knows and has been striving to protect, that the neo classic capitalism structure is on the verge of collapse. Not just because of the incoming administration, but also, because of every administration since 2015’s misunderstanding of the nature of technology and the reality of it’s influence-as Ms Warren and Pelosi have been so vehemently trying to stifle innovation through shenanigans and devices to forestall the very people that have supported them. I, like many liberals on the west coast feel very betrayed by either a misunderstanding or a deliberate attack on the very driver to a greener more progressive future. Calling someone like me and millions of others “tech-bros” does nothing to bridge this divide and furthers the narrative of the right, though they seem to be the only party acknowledging this future.
The currency flow is going to change Paul, stop promoting something that no longer will work for the sake of the machine.
Peace and love to you both.
Trump is the same person today that he was when he was seven he's a brat. I don't know why people keep giving him what he wants all the time. Learn to say no.
Lol
Disgusting
I'm not subscribing to your leftist rhetoric! Quit whining.
Then why are you here listening to this?
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Poor lonely Troll
You can't possibly think they give a s*** about your opinion. v
@@debrakron9049, Trick question? they're an unloved troll. v
These tech bros don’t understand what AI is doing in Software Development. In 3 weeks I have put together a social platform using o1. In three years new software products that don’t rely on advertising business models and doom scrolling will be created by poor men like me in our basements living in isolated countries that no one thinks about around the world. We may not have the bank roll for storage capacity, but if people are willing to pay $5 a month for social platform that has zero functionality related to ads we don’t want to see and more pictures of our friends, Zuck and the rest of these metaverse numnuts are in deep shit.
I hope you're correct. Good luck with your project. v
In order to "defame" someone, don't they need to have "character" in the first place? Is "being a character" the same thing? (Hint: "No")