How Accurate is FGO's Senji Muramasa?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ก.ค. 2024
- How well does Fate/Grand Order portray Senji Muramasa, also known as Sengo Muramasa? How close is Muramasa's in-game version to his historical and mythical counterpart? In this video we delve into his character design, in-game skills, and characterization in order to determine that, followed up by giving it a grade in terms of its historical accuracy. Was Muramasa truly a semi-mad swordsmith who crafted blades that pushed into the realm of demons or even gods? Find out here!
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Emiya Unalloyed Blade Works
Fate/Grand Order Original Soundtrack II
Keita Haga
2018
Disc 2, Track 17
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00:00 Intro
00:16 Senji or Sengo?
00:54 Class
02:52 Character Design
04:52 Skillset
08:52 Noble Phantasm
12:35 Craft Essence
13:19 Valentine's CE
14:04 The Legend of Muramasa
18:49 Muramasa before the Lostbelts
20:50 Muramasa in the Lostbelts
24:42 Conclusion
26:09 Final Grade - เกม
Senji Muramasa meeting Shirou: Why are you a worthy vessel?
Shirou: Because I like swords?
Senji Muramasa: Alright that works.
I LOVE SWORDS SO MUCH!!!!!!!!
I love swords so much my very essence is "swords" -Shirou Emiya
I EFFING LOVE SWORDS!!!
His wives also like his sword too if you know you know...
@@infinitykiyen6270 Yes they do.
You gotta give the guy credit, he watches Morgan torch the fantasy tree Magellan and almost nuke everything in Olympus with a freaking Rhongomyniad , and then just goes like "Yeh, imma just waltz into Morgan's throne room like nobody's business"
“Nah, id win” energy circulating in his mind
he can kill any deity in one hit because of his altered spirit origin as an altergo.
he thought morgan would be a god like zeus so he was confident that he could kill her easily untill he actualy got there.
but the moment he saw morgan he knew he fucked up.
then melusine kicked his ass lol.
Bro, It's Leeroy Jenkins energy is so Strong. And the fact he actually to beat Barghest and Baobhan Sith when coming to Morgan castle. Only losing to Melusine and Melusine was trying to kill the man multiple times but He still survive (Really the Goat)
His work ethic swinging from "I could kill you...but that's not on the agenda today sooo" to "take care of a lostbelt? Gotcha, I'ma go challenge the King immediately" is indicative that he's swinging between Shirou and Archer personality wise
Taking out Chaldea? Not something Shirou wants to do unless absolutely forced to. Dealing with the existential threat that is Faerie Britain? That's something he and the Foreign God can finally agree on.
@@sonokawaray I imagine that Shirou, especially if he's anyway connected to Avalon Shirou, would be hella pissed at Farie Britains existance.
Everything Muramasa does in the Lostbelts is to spite his boss.
Saber:......
Muramsa: what is it young lady.
Saber: please make karage anr burger patties
Muramasa:"instinctively cooks"
*somehow creates a sword burguer*
@@psga5555 salter:"enters the conversion"
A lot of sword smiths live their lives creating swords with fire and iron, but your own body being the material to craft a sacred sword? That’s metal as shit!
Muramasa would really get along with Kurogane from Tales of Berseria.
Muramasa's bonus damage against kings could also be a reference to Shirou's battle against Gilgamesh, the "King of Heroes" :)
I love Muramasa. When Master goes to spend some time with him during Valentine's Day, he fusses and frets so much about "What do kids like these days?" Then it comes to him "I know! MOCHI!" Such a good grandpa with Shirou's influence showing through. I can imagine if Shirou ever had kids, he'd be a bit like Senji and find ways to relate to his grandkids/spend time with them like that while telling stories.
If Shirou ever have a good future that is... Like man Emiya's future are pure suffering like damn...
Its pointed out an aged Shirou would have the exact same personality as Mura which is another reason he was chosen as his Pseudo Servant vessel.
"Did you kids ever wanted to kill yourself because he is a jerk? Cause I do."
"Not again gramps..."
There's *way* more to talk about with that NP btw.
Specifically how it relates to Shirou and his UBW. The entire thing is an Inversion of UBW. It has a chant similar to it as well needed to invoke which is used in full in Shinmosa. The entire reason he can even manage to make the damn thing is because he uses UBW to manifest its landscape of infinite swords and inverts it to become a sword of Infinity.
He's literally swinging a condensed Reality Marble in the shape of a sword.
PS: the only time we see this happen in any other event in Fate is when Koyanskaya gets put in her egg by a self-proclaimed Grand Caster candidate.
Emiya Alter also does this with Lost Works, shoving the reality marble into a bullet that explodes on impact.
Untrue. Jeanne's La Pucelle NP is also a Reality Marble in the shape of a sword. The demon skeleton that Nobunaga occasionally summons is the physical form of her RM. There's also Nursery Rhyme.
So Shirou ends up being a pretty interesting choice of host for someone like Muramasa. On a technical level sure, his affinity for swords is a great match, but Muramasa's nasty-sounding nature is quite different from Shirou. This possession appears to be a blend of the two personalities, and the end result is a servant who's a grump with a heart of gold. From what I've seen of Stay Night, Shirou's big characteristic there is always wanting to do the right thing amid the amoral world of magecraft he's been thrust into. As a servant he has less freedom to go against the Foreign God's wishes, but that moral core is still there driving him to help or at least not impede Chaldea whenever possible. And Muramasa for his part comes off as the type who'd hate being bossed around and would rather be left alone to do his thing, so Shirou's soft-disobedience would be fine by him.
I mean, OG Shirou in the VNs was actually rather snarky about everything, and his trauma was that much more apparent in his inner monologues, he just never really actually said any of it out loud. It didn't really carry over to the anime, which is why he seems so much nicer than the VN Shirou.
But yeah, a grump with a heart of gold, that's the perfect description for MuraShirou.
Its pointed out that an aged Shirou will all in likelyhood unless he ends up as one of the EMIYA's would have the exact same personality as him.
It was stated somewhere I can't remember where bit it was said in game that if Shirou somehow survived to reach old age his personality would be very similar to the personality of the Muramasa we summon
Parvati's line about Muramasa also implies that Shirou might be a Descendant of Muramasa.
I would also recommend you checking out the typemoon fandom for extra tidbits that they sprinkle about the Servants outside the game.
Which part of the fandom? :o
@@CrazyYurie The Typemoon Fandom. Unlike the Fate Grand Order Fandom which only provides info from inside the game, this one is the collective lore fandom for all works under Typemoon (though for the past few years, it has become a Fate series lore fandom due to the fact None of the other Typemoon works other than fate have recieved any new installments in either game or novel form.)
@@hujijuni2434 I do look into that stuff. Otherwise I wouldn't know anything about some other series that are unavailable to me.
I'd recommend taking the wiki with a grain of salt as it's not always reliable
I did some edits and accidentally made a mistake, I decided against correcting it to check how long it'd take to correct, it took over a year on Oberon's page during his release period on NA, so not great
@@aredjayc2858 This is why multiple sources are best! :D
My theory on Muramasa's NP for his saber form is that rather then a recreation of a divine blade, its a culmination of all the swords he forged in his life manifested as a single blade
Yurie eventually runs out of Servants, then does a video on the Holy Grail itself 😂
Can't wait😂
That's going to be a long time from now...
I'd like to mention that another reason Projection is such a good fit for Muramasa is that, as a servant, he's too strong. Every swing he takes, even with them being his own nearly divine blades, shatters them to bits. Getting to create a new weapon for each swing eliminates that weakness, allowing him to actually fight as a saber. I assume that one-swing restriction is part of why Tameshi-mono is a one turn buff, despite his swords theoretically being much more well made than Shirou's Projection
Well, a few things:
Flame EX actually has nothing to do with what happened in LB 6. The flames he uses are the ones you find in his pseudo reality marble which he deploys for his Noble Phantasm. He just draws upon the flames from there to power his attacks which makes sense why it charges his NP so much. Even then, the flames are also representative of the flames used by blacksmiths to forge their blade which also gets him closer to forging his ultimate blade therefore another reason why it charges his np.
Karmic Eye also has close ties to both Shirou and Muramasa. For Shirou, this could be seen as a combination of EMIYA's 2 skills, Eye of the Mind (True) and Clarvoyence/Hawkeye. Eye of the Mind (True) being the ability to predict the moves of an opponent based on experience, which is why EMIYA could keep up with Herc, Cu and Sasaki despite being slower than each of them. Clarvoyence/Hawkeye are skills that give heighten perception and allows for a more percise hits and optimal moves, hence the crit focus it has in game. Muramasa on the other hand has a passive called "Connosier (Can't spell :P) of Blades" which symbolises his vast knowledge of swords and explains his own ability to use them effectively. He would likely understand the foundation of how a sword moves better than most allowing him to understand high level sword techniques. All this accumilates to Karmic Eyes which combines these aspects into one skill allowing Muramasa to break any defense instead of defending himself, and hitting more persicely with great skill. It fits the both of them and works rather well for this character.
Then there's the first skill which I will not attepnt to type the name of. Yeah, this is basically Muramasa's version of Projection and fits more Shirou than Muramasa. However Projection as a magecraft is a perfect fit for Muramasa himself. The process of Projection is an advanced form of gradiant air, a low level magecraft which replicates the properties of objects. Projection takes it alot of steps further by copying the history and creation process of the object as well. That's why, while every mage is capable of using Gradiant Air, they'd never be able to use projection on the level Shirou does. Projection is essentially Blacksmithing but as a Magecraft. There's about 8 steps required to project even 1 blade. Muramasa being knowlegdable about Blacksmithing makes this skill even stronger than it already was.
Then there's Muramasa's goal of creating the Ultimate Weapon. This likely stems from the story he was in with another blacksmith Masamune. There, they each create a sword, Muramasa creates a sword that can cut through anything while Masamune's cuts through anything that's not good in nature. While it's definately a false tale, it's stated that those blades are the goals for thier respective smiths which is the only instance we have of Muramasa even having a goal in the first place which explains why that's his goal in the story.
Honestly I like Muramasa's depiction in fate, they took everything on him, fused it with a version of Shirou that became a proper mage, and created an excellent Character fusing some of the best aspects for each.
Nah it was confirmed he has "flame" is because of his actions in lostbelt 6 being engraved into the throne
@@dandragonmc Really? Where was it stated?
@@duelist4512 "FGO Material XII" the official material books that talks about servants and there skills. What it directly says: " Using one's whole body and soul to work the forge, to the point of burning themself. At the end of a pilgrimage, his actions on the "Inner Sea of the Planet" were engraved in the Throne of Heroes, resulting in the creation of this skill. It is Similar in nature to Altria Caster's Holy Sword Creation but it only affects Muramasa Gains 50% NP Gauge, applies Special Attack against Evil, Special Attack against Threats to Humanity and Increases NP damage As a side note, this skill was supposed to have a 2-turn stun after use (actually, it should have killed him straight up, but that would be too convenient), but since he was implemented earlier than Chapter 6 of Part 2, the stun was removed to prevent spoilers. Instead, the effect was changed to a simple skill effect."
@@dandragonmc Well, that's interesting, kinda sounds like how Jeanne's NP worked before it got buffed. I never really saw Flame as a skill that would only exist because of LB 6 because of how Muramasa seemed to work before then. Flames has been apart of his astetic since Shimosa. (God I suck at spelling...)
I loved the looping loops
That was an idea I came up with in the process. I'd recorded several runs with Muramasa while trying to find the right animations. So when it came time to mention that he's a great looper? Having a bunch of loops happen while that's being said just made sense. XD
I wish we’d get to see his rival Goro Ryudo Masamune one day, I wonder if he would be another pseudoservant in the form of someone Shirou knows or if he would be summoned as a regular servant.
Shinji pseudo maybe? lmao no.
I want him to be a Shiki Tohno face. Muramasa’s “rival” hosted by the body of Shirou’s “rival”.
Or maybe Issei
It would have to be someone that isn't an obvious butt monkey like Shinji, since Masamune is considered to be better.
While the connections to Shirou are deliberately obvious, to me, when playing through the story Muramasa reminded me of Kurogane from Tales of Berseria. Both are renowned blacksmiths obsessed with their craft even after "betraying humanity" (becoming a daemon for Kurogane, and being contracted to the Foreign God for Muramasa). Both desire to forge the ultimate blade, and have even created a sword named after themselves that could be considered their magnum opus (Tsumukari Muramasa for Muramasa, and Kurogane Stormquell for Kurogane). Both constantly create blades that fall just short of perfection (Muramasa's demonic blades and any sword broken by Stormhowl for Kurogane). Both act as the grumpy grandpa of the group due to being older than anyone else in the party. Said obsession with creating the ultimate blade reaches it's peak at the end of their stories where they turn _themselves_ into the sword (Excalibur for Muramasa and Kurogane Stormquell for Kurogane). And both would gift said blade to the person who gave them hope again (Castoria for Muramasa and Rokuro for Kurogane).
Man, when you pointed it out, Muramasa really did go out in the best way possible. Got to forge a divine sword like he's always wanted, was able to stop his surrogate granddaughter Castoria from sacrificing herself and managed to break his contract with the Foreign God all at the same time. Respect.
An A? Hell yea, gramps stays winning!!!
When Someone with so little background to know got one of the longest video. You know he is the GOAT.
Also, for the Muramasa blade being not as durable. I don't agree, the reason being Muramasa blade was famed to be so sharp that it can cut through many things with ease. Especially human, this is probably why most people think the blades are demonic. It is simply merciless in that, it can cut through the living with ease. (This reasoning is also because, there is a tale about Muramasa and Masamune rivaly. Long story short, Masamune ended winning because Masamune blade will not cut those who are worthy meanwhile Muramasa will cut through anything the wielder choose. You can check on TH-cam, it's pretty cool)
And another reason, Muramasa has skilled that can maximize a weapon destructive potential at the cost of it breaking. Sort of similar of Emiya using Broken phantasm. This is why in Shimousa, Muramasa blade immediately break after using. It is not because the blade is not the durable, Muramasa just maximaze the blade potential.
Tho safe to say, people mention that a single failed Muramasa sword is worth 10 normal sword. That's just saying how good Muramasa bladesmithing is.
Even if he doesn't get a good score bro is one of the coolest characters in the game
Best video yet. Wonder if an Alter version of him would have Innocent Monster and Mad Enhancement as Skills and Juuchi Yosamu as his NP.
The best? Thanks! :D
That actually makes me wonder which is my favorite... :o
Damn Muramasa is freaking awsome. I love his rebellios attitude towards the foreign god, hes literley in perma malicious complience mode, and I also realy like the role reversel between him and Artoria Caster. Imagine they still act that way once summoned to Cheldea, must be wary weird to watch fore Saber Artoria as well es Archer.
Dayum, didn't expect Muramasa would get a pretty high score, impressive and great video
Muramasa picking a body: ah shiro he can use be like huh projection sorcery to make swords and he is into swords and might be family man this was much easier then I thought he was like on on the top suggestion list and has lots of info on already that was easy😅 thanks throne
Late but the skill against Kings fits when you realize that most outside of Japan didn't really understand the difference between the Emperor and the Shotgun and the Shotgun basically acted as whatbevery other country at the time considered a King or Emperor to do.
Schrödinger's Cat that's what watching the video reminds of.
Except in this case? We can never open the box that is the real Muramasa.
good video👍 12:33 💀
I am almost wondering if Pseudo-Servants should get a split evaluation; one for the Heroic Spirit and one for the Vessel they are using.
I would love to see a full video on Yui shousetsu sometime. I feel like we really sleep on them in the west since a lot of us never learned about him in history
Someday, for sure!
I think that normal class for Muramasa would be caster because the class also includes artists and crafters.
its the man himself. he was the reason i started fgo. I got him to np4 on his realise and managed to 120 him during new years. absolutly up there with herc and lancelot as my favorite servant in fate
Well I've got videos on two of your favorites, and the third is coming really soon! :D
@@CrazyYurie I know and I´m really looking forward to it. Keep up the good quality content! :D
Idea for a future video: How LORE Accurate is Ereshkigal actually?
The challenge: explain why Ereshkigal is Chaotic Evil.
Although... even better: a video where you try to explain the questionable Alignment of some Servants. I already mentioned Ereshkigal is Chaotic Evil. But... Did you know that Altera is Chaotic Good despite being based on Attila the Hun?
I feel like pondering how Fate does alignment is a subject for its own video entirely.
THE GOAT HAS ARRIVED 😫😫😫😫😫
Ahh my favorite fate Channel
Really? Hooray! :D
11:48 wait, I could have sworn this was stated in game explicitly, though? Maybe I'm remembering wrong and saw it somewhere else, but I definitely recall this information being told to me somewhere before.
Possibly. I might have missed it. There is *a lot* of text to go through. x_x
Considering how craftsmen are usually put into Caster classes, I'd have preferred seeing a Caster design Shirou. Territory Creation and Item Construction are skills specifically for making workshops and crafting tools.
If I really had to give a class to muramasa outside saber, it'd be caster.
"Oh hey I make some of the most cursed swords in Japan."
Plus A lot of inventors like Tesla, Edison, and Babbage are casters as well.
Ok I'm gonna be short, I love those videos you make, as a huge fate fan and mythology enjoyer, and you deserve more views for them.
I've just binged your entire playlist of this series.
Awesome! I'm glad you liked them! :D
As someone who has Muramasa as his favourite servant in the entire franchise, I must say i was deeply disappointed by the fact that Nasu decided to use him in LB6
The fact that he went into interviews saying that he wrote Muramasa's role in that story to make full references to FSN with castoria killed almost all possibilities for people to see him as his own character and now almost everyone just goes and self insert Shirou in him, which became worse considering how many lined towards FSN servants he has such as Saber, which are just bland nostalgia baits
And before someone says that he sacrificed himself out of free will, Nasu also said in an interview that Merlin deliberately manipulated him into killing himself for Artoria's sake, hence why he started saying shit like "oh but what transpired here was FaTe"
In the end, I find Muramasa's case to be rather tragic because of Nasu's incapability of respect his character, which is why I end up despising Castoria and LB6 as a whole so much
It was a story that narratively and literally killed Muramasa as a character so bad that in summer 8 one fucking line to A.A caused huge controversies around him again and brought back all those people who refuse to treate him as character
LB6 is a story that, for me, served nothing more than turning him from "an amazing swordsmith that could craft the ultimate blade" to "hey lets have a shirou face saving an Artoria face" 💀
I hate Nasu
What's this bit from Summer 8?
@@CrazyYurie
I don't know if you heard about it, but there was a survey in Japan where they asked the players, in general, who were the male servants who they expected to receive a summer costume (no summer alt because this game is so against that)
Oberon came on 1st place and Muramasa on 2nd, and since he received a damage bonus boost during the event everyome was expecting something.
It turns out that A.A had contracted Muramasa as a bodyguard because "Muramasa's first ascension can be considered a swimsuit" and was the reason he never participated in the event at all.
His only dialogue in the whole event was "that was a stupid monologue" to A.A with an annoyed face while he was in her office, but the people took it in order to feed there desilusions with that disgusting ship
Shit was so bad that social medias where on fire for months because Nasu keeps feeding those desilusionals with more references to the fate route.
This is just another reason for why I hate LB6 so much.
Making Muramasa's whole role about being used for references between Shirou and Artoria ended up causing that people no longer see him as Muramasa but just a shirou clone or something so they can self insert Shirou on it, which is even more tragic when you see how his bond 5 line is about Muramasa having an existential crisis and is trying to have the player reasure him that he is Senji Muramasa.
@@juliourbina4149 I'd not heard about that Summer 8 stuff. That's kinda obnoxious. x_x
You were right about lostbelt six being the reason his has third skill. his fgo material also says it acts (lorewise) like castoria third skill.
Amazing video as always. I wonder when will the Lancelot video be released
Lancelot will be after Medea, so quite soon.
@@CrazyYurie awesome. I have been waiting for him since melusine video.
❤️🥰👍 nice video
That's one of the things I really like with FGO. The Pseudo-Servants are really just fan service, excuses to create playable versions of non-Servant characters. They didn't actually need to go so hard with the story telling with them, but they did, and it is amazing. I'm really looking forward to next time you do a Pseudo, because they are all pretty fascinating.
4:32 yes and now
i wish he made a skill that would let him have the strengths of an alter ego
Honestly Muramasa is one of the BEST servant FGO ever cook using every lore even history...
They cook him!
Regarding the Valentine's CE, did they have a scene like that in lb6 (munching on some mochi or otherwise just chilling with Castoria?)
Not that I remember, though LB6 is huge - I may not remember every tiny detail. x_x
next is Medea, please let her deal with Jason in her video, i love Medea and i think she needs more screen time
"Deal with"? Are you advocating murder?!?
no, just maybe remind him why he should be careful around her, beside let's be honest he deserves it after how he treated her, but i don't mean murder@@CrazyYurie
@@Trollius Well I did do the Jason video already. :o
Man imagine if we get muramasa alter that has innocent monster that uses curse blades
Who would become Masamune’s vessel if he were to get into fgo. A older emiya or a alter of his. Or maybe Souichirou Kuzuki .
Hmm.... tough to tell.
Oh I will Because he the goat I got him now I want Hassan the old man Hassan in my fgo
I guess his biggest problem is his not Berserk personally
I dont like ppl who treat Muramasa like Servant-Shirou cuz you already have one and is Archer
Can we get how accurate is tamamo no mae ?
I put up polls in the community tab about who to cover next.
@@CrazyYurie when?